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Remarks by

STEPHEN S. GARDNER
Vice Chairman
Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System

at the

Securities Industry Association Annual Convention
Thursday, December 2, 19 76
Boca Raton, Florida

Gentlemen, it is a great pleasure to be in
Boca Raton with you.

I wish I could stay here in the

sun and balmy air for a little while.

I used to every

year with the Reserve City Bankers, but my new employers
have different schedules.

Besides, it is too interesting

back in Washington just now, and it's probably not

a

good idea to stay away too long.
I'm not going to talk about political change
today.

It's inappropriate for me to do so.

Besides, it's

not the manifestation of any particular change but the
underlying sociological and technological changes that
are occurring in this independent world economy that
interest me.

Further, I am not speaking for the Board,

of course, but only from my own experiences during 25
years in the financial business and 2-1/2 years in
Government service.
I hope this will be useful.

Your program indi-

cates close attention will be given to many aspects of
your business with expert speakers, discussion leaders,
and panel members from the Securities Industry.

But

other than your regulator, Rod Hills, only A1 Sommers,
whom I was sorry to miss yesterday, and Senator Pete Williams
,tomorrow, and I are the outsiders.

This is an opportunity

then to focus attention on some basic trends in our economy

-2and even our society that are germane to the business and
the future of the securities industry and the economy.
In the present lagging recovery, we have all been
concerned about the growth in business fixed investment.
Statistically, it is behind the average and relative
increases in such numbers during other recoveries in the
post-World War II period.
surprised at this.

I doubt if anyone is really

While economists tend to lean on the

homogeneity of economic knowledge, each recovery, each
recession, is not expected to be a mirror image
Prior similar economic period.
appropriate term
in this world.

of some

A mutation might be a more

in view of the accelerated pace of change
The uncertainties that still surround

the supply and cost of energy and environmental constraints-- conditions that were unique to the recent
recess ion--are reasons enough for
confidence by business.

the lack of investment

Add to those problems the possi-

bility that we are a maturing economy in a maturing
society, with proportionately larger investment risks
(certainly no smaller risks than heretofore) and an absolute
decline in the real return on capital and we have enough
explanations.
But we have had a recovery,, assisted by good crops,
continuing strength in private final demand and some
moderation in inflation.

The difficult liquidity crises

-3have passed for many nonfinancial corporations. The
supply of money and credit seems ample and declining
rates confirm this.

But there is concern in some circles

about the prospects

for sustaining this recovery.

Unemployment is too high.

GNP growth is not high enough,

and the debates now are raised around the kind or extent
of stimulus that will be appropriate and least inflationary
as we enter 1977.
I have mentioned two great uncertainties, the supply
and cost of energy and the cost of protecting the environment, that have not and cannot

be easily dealt with.

There are others, of course, which are within our abilities
to manage although they will be very painful to deal with.
The Government's heavy deficit position and the principal
expansion in Federal spending are, as you know, largely
the result of the extraordinary growth in social program
costs and transfer payments to individuals.

Compounding

this is the change in the demographics of our domestic
society.

It is very hard to expect the

Federal

Government to become a saver and supplier of capital even
if we approach full employment.

Nor are the costs of

State and local governments likely to diminish.
of such

The growth

programs and their cost to the public is startling

-4and suggests that the possibility of crowding out must
still be of concern.
publicly.

We are spenders, not savers,

But if we turn to private sector savings, we

are -repeatedly told that the U.S. has a very low rate of
household savings relative to disposable income compared
to other leading western industrial nations and also a
low rate of all savings as a per cent of gross domestic
product if you include corporate, Government, and household
savings.

It is not surprising, then, that productivity and

business investment have lagged seriously in the U.S. in
relative terms versus Germany, Japan and other important
Western economies.

In short, the productivity of labor,

the sine qua non of an industrialized society that
expects to achieve its social and economic goals, must
be our main concern.
I am not a sociologist but in addition to the
litany of problems I have cited--cons training capital
investment and threatening productivity advances--I am
also uneasy about what may be the diminution of incentive
in our society. A very large number of Americans have
clearly reached the threshold level of want satisfaction.
An impressive number live with a surfeit of material goods.
If the spark of individual enterprise is sufficiently
dampened, we will be fearing for the will as well as the

-5w

a y to continued increases in productivity and the means

to achieve whatever social goals you envision.
When I consider the mood in America today from
Washington and among the Congress, I sense that the
incentives to business investment may be close to the
maximum permitted by the political process.

The investment

tax credit is wearing thin as an off-again, on-again incentive to business.

The DISC program has been edited and

depletion eliminated for major oil producers.

The minimum

income tax, probably appropriately, is creeping up.

But

much of the rhetoric about tax reform does not inspire any
confidence that a consensus will be reached that will
increase savings and investment.
All of what I have said so far are negative ornagging concerns about the immediate problems we face
m

our domestic economy.

But there is much, much more

to consider on a global basis.

Sweeping changes have

occurred in the economic and political structure of this
Planet in the last three decades.

Putting aside idealogical

differences and politics, the struggle to achieve not only
relief from hunger, or worse, starvation, and rudimentary economic progress has a new meaning in a world of 160 nations.
The formation of numerous independent countries from
the old colonial territories has divided and altered dramatically the distribution of the world's basic human and mineral

resources and agricultural capabilities essential
to achieving human progress.

The economies of all

nations are growing more, not less, interdependent.
Not only for the obvious reasons of raw materials trade
and mutual protection treaties but also for more subtle
reasons of preserving access to technology, capital and
stable financial structures.
m

If we assess our future

this context, it seems to me the basic strengths of

the U.S. are not wholly to be measured by our physical
resources or military strength or existing productive capacities.

I suggest our central role in the world has long

been based on some other unique American assets as well.
Let's begin with our economy itself.

GNP of one and

three quarters billion population of 215 million and a
Per capita income of $5,526.

It's true that our economy

is the world's largest, that we have mastered the most
complex technologies, that our management skills are
highly prized and copied.

It's also true that this has

created the largest free market for products anywhere,
(housing, transportation, clothing, food, etc.)

The

strength of our partners in the western world is enhanced
by their ability to export to our marketplace.
economy is far more self-contained.

Dependency

Our

-7in an interdependent world is heavily weighted in our
favor.

Further, in the most basic of man's endeavors--

agriculture--we have achieved an incredible level of
technological efficiency.

Our major exports, food,

are just as critical to this planet as OPEC's.

I do

not expect the role of the U.S. in the world's economy
to diminish for some time--quite the contrary.

Our

markets beguile not only our trading partners but those
whose social systems are idealogically contrary to our
own.
Within this giant economy 1 see strengths everywhere but I will single out only one example, our private
financial structure, although what I suggest may be
equally applicable to industry or agriculture.

If the

U.S. market is key, the dollar is equally essential as
the world's obvious trading currency.

And the infra-

structure of world finance is led by U.S. institutions.
American banking consortiums may even be lending as much
abroad today as the International. Development Banks.
They are financing not only commerce and industry but
also aspiring nations.

Without stopping to critique

their actions I just want to point out that our competitive and diverse banking structure bulks as large and is

-8as important to the world as our economy.

Similarly,

our capital markets are the world's biggest and most
important.

You may be faced with a variety of problems

today and I won't forecast what will be troubling you
tomorrow, but the fact remains that without your industry
and the U.S. capital market, the ability to marshal
investment resources for a great deal of the needed
development in the world would be very seriously diminished.
We sometimes don't appreciate an obvious and
equally important strength in America.
conscience of 200 million people.

That is the social

The same conscience that

fed Europe after World War I, that engaged in the incredible
project of world reconstruction after World War II with
a volume of aid and grants unparalleled in history.
is simply a fact of American character.

This

It is probably

the genesis today of the Civil Rights Movement, the clamor
for consumer protection, and environmental restrictions,
and openness in Government, and similar current issues.
The point is that from the founding of this nation,
Americans have had a different view than other peoples
about the rights of individuals.

I think America has

been and will continue to be in the leading edge of
social change.

And as we apply these ideas, often

-9imperfectly, to a large, industrialized economy, have
you noticed how many are watching with interest from
abroad?

We may be a long time reaching a consensus

on the appropriate balance between environmental imperatives and industry initiatives, for example.

But wherever

we are in the debate today, we are more ahead of our peers
than not.
Another great asset has been with us from the
start, and that is simply the stable, continuing political
process in this republic—now the oldest, unchanged form
of such government.

I promised not to talk about politics,

so I'll just leave that statement on the record.
You may properly assume, then, that I am optimistic
and do not see the U.S. reduced to a diminished position
in the world order or a less productive and viable society
here at home.

I think we can reverse the trend of

declining gains in productivity, but I have to add a lot
of addenda to that brief assumption.

I would include the

usual admonitions--inflation must be controlled, we must
return to wage and price stability.

Investment must be

encouraged and the return to capital improved.

We must

rationalize the cost of our social programs at local,
State and Federal levels with our fiscal abilities and

-10with the changing demographics of our society.

We must

vigorously attack the unemployment problems of the
disadvantaged, particularly in the urban centers which
have.to be restored.

Those are all standard prescriptions

to cure our immediate problems but I doubt that there
is a celestial pharmacist who could mix such a medicine.
If we really expect to find that prescription, we
must start by restoring confidence--that is not strong
enough--respectability and even pride in the private
economic system that has built those great strengths
that I discussed earlier.

However overpowering this

task might seem, I think that it is not unmanageable.
We have faced it before many times--it has been the
story of the evolution of American society.

The labor

strife early in this century, the depression, and the
conditions that inspired the original antitrust laws
are the briefest of examples.

There have been frequent

times in history when citizens lacked confidence in our
business system, maybe more times than the converse.
The next speaker on your program--the Chairman
of your Committee on Economic Education--may have the
most important message to this convention.
may even be opportune.

The timing

Certainly, some of the social

-11turmoil of the late 60's and early 70's has been lessened
b

y the passage of time and thoughtful analysis and dis-

cissions.
to

But whether this is so or not, if we are ever

restore wide public confidence in the United States

economic system, we need vigorous, articulate and persuasive spokesmen.
To be specific, I have seen a number of efforts to
Persuade individual Americans that they have a far larger
stake in investment than they realize through ownership
of
1

not only mutual funds but pension rights and insurance.
haven't been impressed, however, with any attempts to

link these arguments to the more basic need for productivity
^ins.

There is too little publicity about the comparisons

°f our growth and productivity with those of other nations.
Th
investor is key to a process that is at least as
lr

»Portant to his future as his own return on capital.
Can
n
ot

any parallels be drawn with the unfortunate events in

her countries where economic policies have constrained

investment and reduced productivity? The private sector
deluding the media can be more objective than public
of

ficials in using these economic lessons to our citizens'

^vantage.
i
The heavy burden regulation imposes on the economy
should be addressed.

This is getting to be a better

-12understood problem by the public generally.

But, never-

theless, it is also too often accepted by the public as
the only answer to perceived unfair practices.

The

publicity attending boycotts, bribes, corporate political
contributions, understandably encourages more regulation.
Res toring confidence in business requires more morality
in business and self-policing, which, in my view, is a
better system than begging for inflexible regulatory
controls.

We are a society that seeks a whipping boy.

Oil companies and multinational corporations fall easily
into this category.

At least in the latter case, more

reasoned explanations of the usefulness of our major firms
expanding internationally are needed.

Walter Wriston

made a key point in his recent essay on "People, Politics
and

Productivity:

The World Corporation in the 1980 f s. n

The point to which I refer is his statement that multinationals "are essentially helpless in the hands of a
nation

state no matter how small."

I don't think the

Public believes that at all, but all I ask for is a fair
debate.

Other examples of topics are infinite.

the discussion about tax loopholes.

Consider

Somehow the mortgage

interest deduction in a country devoted to the principle
of home ownership has become a loophole and classed, I
assume, with feedlot investments or oil leases.

-13Nobody has mentioned it too specifically but tax free
interest on municipal bonds, I guess, is also a loophole
by popular defintion.

I wonder how popular that definition

would be if all of our townships, boroughs, counties and
cities were trying to finance schools, water, sewage, and
fire protection without such aid.
It has occurred to me that you may not need all the
admonitions or generalities that I have presented today
in this brief talk.

Certainly, there is no more lively

industry closely attuned to trends in society than your
business.

In fact, you have custody of the world's most

significant daily public opinion poll, the stock market.
But I didn't hesitate because of the great changes that
we have all observed in the investment markets and in your
industry.

Why have 5 million or so small investors with-

drawn their active participation?

What has happened to

the idea in America that an equity position was important
in building financial security in a growing national and
World economy?

If you had

been able to sustain and expand

the confidence that the American private investor entrusted
to you and American corporations in the post-war decades,
you would need no encouragement or criticism from me.

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personally believe that happy condition

would have

been largely impossible for any number of reasons
including inflation, recession, OPEC, the real estate
debacle, and the growing regulatory presence of Government .
My purpose today has been simply to encourage you
through practice and publicity to contribute to the
public's understanding of the economic issues that confront us to ensure a balanced debate on the future course
of business and government in our society.
Thank you.