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8 30 a m M S T (10 30 a m E S T )
March 22, 1997

Remarks by
Alan Greenspan
Chairman
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
at the
Annual Convention
of the
Independent Bankers Association of America
Phoenix, Arizona
March 22, 1997

Financial Reform and the Importance of a Decentralized Banking Structure

As always, it is a pleasure to address this convention of the Independent
Bankers Association of America This is the sixth year I have addressed this
convention, and during that time four separate Congresses have debated how
best to reform the financial system I last spoke to you about financial reform in
1994, in Orlando, and it is clear that the real world occurrences of the past three
years have not diminished the relevance of those words Therefore, I shall
reemphasize some of those thoughts today in the context of legislative
proposals that are now before the current Congress
Let me begin by reiterating the essential thrust of the Federal Reserve's
position regarding financial reform We believe that any changes, either in
regulation or legislation, should be consistent with four basic objectives (1)
continuing the safety and soundness of the banking system, (2) limiting
systemic risk, (3) contributing to macroeconomic stability, and (4) limiting the
spread of both the moral hazard and the subsidy implicit in the safety net My
remarks today will focus primarily on the macroeconomic and risk implications
of financial reform and how, in particular, such reform must enable community
banks to maintain their critical role in the macroeconomy
The importance of the community bank
Our banking system is the most innovative, responsive, and flexible in
the world At its core is a banking structure that is characterized by very large
numbers of relatively small banks ~ more than 7000 separate banking
organizations This banking structure is very different from that of other
industrialized nations ~ for example, there are less than 500 banks incorporated
in England, Germany, and Canada combined To be sure, the very largest U S

banking organizations account for the lion's share of banking assets Still, no
one institution controls more than 6 percent of total domestic banking assets in
the United States
This highly decentralized, highly diverse banking structure is almost
certainly the direct result of our market economy itself Indeed, it is revealing
that the first edition of Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations was published in 1776,
the year of the birth of our nation Our market-driven economy, founded on
Smith's principle of "natural liberty" in economic choice, and the banking
structure that evolved within that economy, have proved to be remarkably
resilient During the banking crisis of the late 1980s ~ a crisis which was felt in
banking systems throughout the world ~ more than one thousand U S banks
failed But less than a decade later, loan loss reserves and bank capital at U S
institutions stand at their highest levels in almost a half century Moreover, the
reestablishment of equilibrium regarding safety and soundness in our banking
system was accomplished without costing the taxpayers a penny
To be sure, the effects of the banking crisis, as well as the ongoing pace
of consolidation within the industry, have reduced the total number of banking
organizations by more than a third since 1980 Nevertheless, we remain a
nation characterized by a large number of smaller community banks ~ just as
we are a nation characterized by a diversity and small average size of our
nonfinancial businesses Moreover, one cannot easily imagine nor desire that
the decentralized, diverse nature of our banking system will fundamentally
change any time soon There is, of course, a strong connection between our
banking structure and the nature of our small-business-onented economy
Smaller banks traditionally have been the source of capital for small businesses

that do not generally have access to securities markets In turn, small, new
businesses, often employing new technology, account for much of the growth in
employment in our economy The new firms come into existence often to
replace old firms that were not willing or able to take on the risks associated
with high-growth strategies This replacement of stagnating firms with
dynamic new firms -- what the economist Joseph Schumpeter called the
"perennial gale of creative destruction" ~ is at the heart of our robust, growthoriented economy
It is this freedom to take on risk that characterizes our economy and, by
extension, our banking system Legislation and regulation of banks, in turn,
generally should not aim to curtail the predilection of businesses and their
banks to take on risk ~ so long as the general safety and soundness of our
banking system is maintained As I have said many times, regulators and
legislators should not act as if the optimal degree of bank failure were zero
Rather, policymakers must continually assess the tradeoff between, on the one
hand, protecting the financial system and the taxpayers, and on the other hand,
allowing banks to perform their essential risk-taking activities, including the
extension of risky credit Optimal risk-taking on the part of our banks means
that some mistakes will be made and some institutions will fail Indeed, even if
a bank is well-managed, optimal risk-taking means that such a bank can simply
get unlucky Either through mistakes of management or through the vagaries of
economic luck, bank failure will occur, and such failure should be viewed as
part of a natural process within our competitive system
Just as regulators and legislators must accept failure, they also must not,
in their zealousness to maintain a safe and sound financial system, artificially

restrict competition among banks or between banks and their nonbank
counterparts For example, we should not repeat the experiment with
"micromanagement" of bank activities that was embodied in the 1991 FDICIA
legislation, much of which was repealed in the 1994 banking legislation In this
regard, so long as we do not place artificial regulatory roadblocks in their way, I
am not overly concerned with the ability of our smaller banks to compete with
their large, regional or national counterparts Our research shows that, when a
large bank enters a new market through acquisition of an existing smaller
institution, typically lending to small businesses initially declines But then
existing community banks take up the slack by lending to the borrowers
spurned by the larger organization Indeed, several community bankers have
commented that they welcome the entry of large institutions into their markets
via the acquisition route, seeing it as an opportunity to acquire some of the
customer base that often is lost by the newly acquired bank
The dual banking system and the importance of choice of federal regulators
Just as our decentralized banking structure is a key to the robustness of
our macroeconomy, a key to the effectiveness of our banking structure is what
we term the dual banking system Our system of both federal and state
regulation of banks has fostered a steady stream of innovations that likely
would not have proceeded as rapidly or as effectively if our regulatory structure
were characterized by a monolithic federal regulator For example, the NOW
account was invented by a state-chartered bank Also, the liberalization of
prohibitions against interstate banking has its ongin in the so-called "regional
compacts" that permitted interstate affiliations for banking companies in
consenting states Adjustable rate mortgages are yet another example of

innovation at the state level that has benefitted financial institutions and their
customers
Just as important as the fostering of innovation is the protection the dual
banking system affords against overly rigid federal regulation and supervision
The key to protecting against overzealousness in regulation is for banks to have
a choice of more than one federal regulator With two or more federal
regulators, a bank can choose to change its charter thereby choosing to be
supervised by another federal regulator That possibility has served as a
constraint on arbitrary and capricious policies at the federal level True, it is
possible that two or more federal agencies can engage in a "competition in
laxity" - but I worry considerably more about the possibility that a single
federal regulator would become inevitably rigid and insensitive to the needs of
the marketplace So long as the existence of a federal guarantee of deposits and
other elements of the safety net call for federal regulation of banks, such
regulation should entail a choice of federal regulator in order to ensure the
critical competitiveness of our banks
The job of a banking regulator, difficult under any circumstances and for
a variety of reasons, is especially critical as it regards the connection running
between banking risk and the impact of such risk-taking on the macroeconomy
As I have been pointing out, the historic purpose of banks is to take risk through
the extension of credit to businesses and households ~ credit that is so vital to
the growth and stability of the economy But this fact creates a significant
conflict for banking regulators On the one hand, regulators are concerned with
the cost of bank failure to the taxpayer and the impact of such failures on the
general safety and soundness of the financial system On the other hand, banks

must take risks in order to finance economic expansion Decisions about
tradeoffs must be made In the early 1990s, we saw how, in response to
FDICIA, new regulations, weakened capital, and large loan losses, banks
reduced their willingness to take risks, thereby contributing to a credit crunch
and slower economic growth This recent episode demonstrates clearly how
tricky are these tradeoffs between necessary risk taking and protecting the
banking system, a swing too far in either direction can create both short-term
and long-term difficulties
A regulator without responsibility for macroeconomic growth and
stability tends to have a bias against risk-taking Such a regulator receives no
praise if the economy is functioning well, but is criticized if there are too many
bank failures For such a regulator, the tradeoffs are one-sided and, if the
decisions of such a regulator were left unchecked, the result might be a stagnant
economy at whose core was a stagnant banking system In contrast, the Federal
Reserve's economic responsibilities are an important reason why we have
stnven to maintain a consistent bank regulatory policy, one that entails neither
excessive tightness nor ease in supervisory posture The former would lead to
credit crunches, the latter, with a lag, would lead to excessive bank failures
Just as the probability of bank failure should not be the only concern of
the effective regulator, bank regulation is not the only, or even the most
important, factor that affects the banking business The condition of the
macroeconomy also has something to say about your success as a banker In
that regard, the generally favorable macroeconomic conditions we have been
facing for the past few years suggest that bankers should now take pause and
reassess the appropriateness of their lending decisions Mistakes in lending,

after all, are not generally made during recessions but when the economic
outlook appears benevolent Recent evidence of thin margins and increased
nonbank competition in portions of the syndicated loan market, as well as other
indicators, suggest some modest underwriting laxity has a tendency to emerge
during good times This suggests the need for a mild caution that bankers
maintain sound underwriting standards and pricing practices in their lending
activities
Toward financial reform without losing the strengths of our current system
Let me now turn from general concerns over our regulatory structure to
more specific concerns regarding the supervisory and regulatory treatment of
our largest, most complex banking organizations -- a subject in which I suspect
community banks have some considerable interest As the 105th Congress
contemplates financial reform legislation, it is critical to focus on the issue of
how best to supervise risk-taking in these large entities and, in particular,
whether there should be significant umbrella supervision for the entire banking
organization
Historically, bank holding companies have been largely confined to
financial activities that are similar to, often the same as, those permissible to
commercial banks Also historically, supervision of banking organizations,
both large and small, has tended to focus mainly on the need to protect the
bank To some extent, this emphasis on the bank rather than the nonbank
activities of the banking organization was prompted by, or permitted by,
management techniques that tended not to treat risk-taking in integrated fashion
across the entire holding company The regulators' main concern was the bank,
and bank safety could be analyzed more or less remotely and distinctly from the

nonbank activities of the banking organization
More recently, the focus of supervision of holding companies by the
Federal Reserve is being modified to parallel the changes in the management of
banking companies Most large institutions in recent years have moved toward
consolidated risk management across all their bank and nonbank activities
Should the Congress permit new nonbanking activities by banking
organizations it is likely that these activities too would be managed on a
consolidated basis from the point of view of risk-taking, pricing, and
profitability analysis Our regulatory posture must adjust accordingly, to focus
on the decision-making process for the total organization Especially as
supervisors focus more on the measurement and management of market, credit,
and operating risks, supervisory review of firm-wide processes increasingly will
become the appropriate principle underlying our assessment of an
organization's safety and soundness
Some market participants ~ especially nonbanks contemplating buying
banks in the wake of any new Congressional legislation, as well as banks
contemplating entenng newly permissible nonbank activities ~ are naturally
concerned over the thought of bank-like regulation being extended to their
nonbank activities We share this concern, and last month we asked Congress
to modify our mandate to permit the Fed to be more flexible on such issues as
applications for new activities At the same time, however, we believe there has
been some considerable misunderstanding of our basic philosophy of holding
company supervision The focus of the Fed's inspections of nonbank activities
of bank holding companies is to gain a sense of the overall strength of the
individual units and their interrelations with each other and the bank As I

indicated above, emphasis is placed on the adequacy of risk management and
internal control systems Only if there is a major deficiency in these areas
would we intend for a bank holding company inspection to become in any
significant way "intrusive," and the number of such intrusive inspections of
nonbanking activities should be quite small if managements are following
prudent business practices
Some observers have questioned not only the need for umbrella
supervision, but also the need for the Fed's involvement in such supervision In
addition to the reasons I cited above for central bank involvement in
supervision, there is the issue of systemic risk and the fact that it is primarily
the Federal Reserve's obligation to maintain stability in our financial system
and that system's interface with international financial markets This obligation
cannot be met solely via open market operations and use of the discount
window, as powerful as these tools may be Financial crises, when they occur,
are unpredictable and diverse in nature Globalization means that a domestic
crisis can become international or that a foreign crisis can become a domestic
concern The Federal Reserve's ability to respond quickly and effectively to
any particular systemic threat rests primarily on our experience and expertise
with the details of the U S and foreign banking and financial systems, including
our familiarity with the payments and settlement system This expertise, in
turn, has been accumulated over the years primarily through our supervision of
large domestic and multinational banking companies, and via our participation
in large payments and settlement systems which are such a critical part of our
financial infrastructure
In order to carry out our responsibility, the Fed must be directly involved

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in the supervision of banks of all sizes -- such as now provided by member
banks ~ and must also be able to address the problems of large banking
companies if one or more of their activities endanger the stability of our
financial system This implies that the Federal Reserve have appropnate
supervisory authority Moreover, the new regulatory structure must retain our
flexibility to respond to changes in the structure of the financial system,
especially where such changes cannot easily be forecast in the wake of
significant legislative changes Systemic crises occur very rarely by their very
definition But when such crises do occur the consequences of slow or
misdirected action are grave The central bank, as the lender of last resort, must
have the knowledge, the tools, and the authority necessary to act in a timely and
decisive fashion This is necessary to protect the whole financial system, not
the least of which are the critical players among our community banks
Conclusions
Let me conclude by reiterating two of the Federal Reserve's most basic
concerns as the current Congress deliberates the issue of financial reform First,
we should recognize the increasingly evident fact that financial firms of all sorts
now engage routinely in a wide variety of financial activities that, just a few
decades ago, were considered to be nontraditional Even in cases where the
financial activity is currently not permitted directly, the risks and returns of the
activity can be mimicked through the prudent use of financial derivative
instalments such as put and call options We should recognize these facts and,
in response, structure legislation that would permit the full economic integration
of these various forms of financial activity, in order to gain the maximum
operating efficiencies, the best tradeoffs between risk and return, and the most

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flexibility in meeting the needs of the customer But new legislation should not
attempt to accomplish too much too soon The Board believes it is prudent to
delay, or to implement in stages, broad autliorization of nonfinancial activities
for banking companies We want to be sure of the smooth functioning of
integrated financial activity before we address potential combinations of
banking and commerce
Second, in permitting broadened financial powers, legislation should
strive to maintain the current roles of both the dual banking system and the
central bank Financial reform should not be interpreted to mean regulatory
reform for its own sake Banks of all sizes must have their regulatory choices
preserved, just as financial firms of all sizes should be permitted to engage
prudently in a wide range of financial activity Finally, the central bank must
continue to be able to monitor and address activities of large banking
organizations that might threaten the stability of the system I am confident that
prudent, reasoned financial reform can be accomplished in a manner that
preserves the best of the current system while introducing the improvements
that we all desire Thank you very much