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The Papers of Charles Hamlin (mss24661)
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Hamlin, Charles S., Miscellany, Printed Matter,"Record of Work Done On
Import Differential Cases, 1911-1912, N.D.

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CHARLES HAMUN
PAPERS
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I/E3ORT DIFFERENTIAL CASES.

IMPORT DIFFEREITTIAL CASES.
Saturday, March 23.
Mr. Rich met me at the Union Club and asked me if I
would represent the Boston & Maine R. R. in the proceedings. I told him I would consult with Yr. Ives,
Chamber of Commerce, and would let him know.
April 1 to
3 inclusive.
Worked continuously on tables of valuation of imports
and exports from the different Atlantic seaboard ports
and computed percentap7es accruing to the four principal ports.
Careful study of exhibits in the export differential
case and review of the case.
Preparing a list of proposed statistics and exhibits
for the import hearings.

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April 3.
Two hours conference with Mr. Chandler (Chamber
of
Commerce), Mr. Lamoure (Boston & Maine) and Yr.
Blood (Boston & Albany) as to statistical tables.
April 4.
Long interview over telephone with Mr. Briscoe of
Boston & Albany R. R.
Requested him to wire 71r.
McCain of the Trunk Line Association to give us details in classes and commodities of all import traffic which went to Pittsburgh and other sixty per cent
points in the years 1910 and 1911.

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Early in 1910 Mr. McCain separated this traffi
c from
the general returns which he made. Although he now
Issues a separate list of the imports to the sixty
per cent points, yet he merely lumps classes
and commodities together. r41 found that it would be
necessary to separate these latter figures so as to add
them to the general returns thus raiving a comple
te
return after 1910 similar to the ones issued by
Mr.
McCain prior to 1910.

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Also asked Mr. Biscoe to consider whether the years 1906,
1907 and 1908 averaged together would give a fair basis
on which to compute rains or losses in the following years

April 6.

Conference with Mr. Crane and Mr. :Berry of Boston (7 Maine
R. R. 11 to 1, going over details of exhibits, foreign
ocean rates, etc.

April 7.

Wo -king out table based on special statements 438 and 440
of the Trunk Line Association, 1904.

April 8.

Conversations over the telephone with hr. Crane and Mr.
Biscoe with reference to securing data as to westbound domestic and import traffic comparing the periods of 1907
and 1908 with the periods 1909 to 1911.

April 9.

Wotked all day on tables showing proportion of import to
domestic westbound business for years 1899 to 1903, inclusive, from special statements 438, 440 and 449.

April 10. Meeting of Mr. Chandler and experts representing B. & M.
and B. & A. Further work on statistics.

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ril 11. Conference with Mr. Crane.
Work on statistics.

Conference with Mr. Chandler.

April 12. Received a letter today from Mr. Clark, a member of the Interstate Commerce Commission, in which he states that the
Baltimore Commercial interests and the Baltimore & Ohio
R. R. have requested the Commission to postpone the hearing
set for April 19, on the Import Rate question, and to assign the same for hearing at some later date together witlthe complaint filed by the New York Commercial Bodies against the existing export and import differentials and
he asks in said letter that we advise him as to our position on this matter.

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I at once prepared a letter to Mr. Clark stating that in
the absence fram town of Mr. Ives, Mr. Berry and Mr. Rich
that it was imponsible to state any determination of this
matter but that I suggested that the Commission require
all parties in interest to appear on April 19th and then
that the matter be finally determined. See letter to
Clark.
I read this proposed letter to Mr. Chandler of the Chamber
of Commerce and later Mr. Ives called me on the telephone
from New York and I read the letter to him. They both




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fully approved it. I then read the letter to Mr. Crane
and he approved it. I then called up Mr. Biscoe of the
Boston & Albany but found that he hl.d left for New York. I
accordingly wrote him a note sending him a copy of the
letter. I also sent copies of the letter to all those to
whom Mr. Clark's letter was addressed in addition to myself and also wrote to Mr. Berry and Mr. Rich.

April 13. Entire morning consumed in consideration of statistics and
in preparilig letter in reply to Commissioner Clark and
communicating with the other commercial bodies and railroads.
April 14. Conference with Mr. Crane roing over entire matter of records which will have to be produced at the hearing and
correspbndence from steamship lines and examination of
bills of lading showing uniform ocean rates to the various
ports.
April 15. Entire morning spent in study of import rate statistics.
Conference with Mr. Crane.

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Mr. Ives surrested the other day tl'e advisaMlity of employing Mr. Rantoul to rive his whole time to the import
and ex-)ort differential questions so as to be prepared
himself to tmstify before the Commission as an expert on
traffic conditions at BoF!ton.
I told him I would think +he matter over but that it struck
very favorably. I called
Mr. Crane Saturday, April
15, and he said that Mr. Rantoul was an able man and that
he thought it desirable to have a man like him who could
testify for the Port of Boston and yet not directly represent any of the railroads. I asked him to confer with
Mr. Rich as to this and he said that he would.

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April 17. This morning, April 17, I called him up and he said he had
conferred with Mr. Rich and Mr. Rich thought that the idea
was a good one.

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I also called up Mr. Biscoe of the Boston & Albany R. R.
and he said that Mr. Rantoul was a very able man and that
he thought the idea was rood.
Just c'Illed Mr. Crane on the telephone to ask him if Mr.
Ives' sugrestion as to Mr. Rantoul was agreeable to Mr.




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Berry. Mr. Crane said that he had not spoken to Mr. Berry
about it and that Mr. 7erry was not then in his office
but there was no occasion to speak to him lecause if Mr.
Rich approved Mr. perry would approve and that as he had
already told me, Mr. Rich had approved it. I told him
that while it had in one sense nothing to do with the
Boston & —aine, yet I wanted to be sure that we were working harmoniously in every way.

April 17. MeetinIT of Chamber of Commerce Import Rate Committee.
sent Mr. Charles Jones, mr. Preston, Mr. Ives and

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I suggested to the meetng t7rie advisability of employing
Mr. Robert Rantoul as an expert to qualify himself to appear as an expert witness in behalf of the Port of Boston.
I said that either this must be done or Mr. Ives and his
Secretary, Mr. Chandler, would have to be prepared to
give up absolutely all of their time for sone months in
the '''uture to the preparation of the case.
I explained to the committee that as in the export diflerential cases I had been retained by the Boston & Maine
and th-l.t my charges to the "Roston Chamber of Commerce over and above my regular retainer would be nominal.
It was thereupon voted to employ Mr. Rantoul at a salary
of $300.00 per month, subject to the approval of the Executive Committee.
Spent whole morning with committee discussing the case in
every aspect.
April 18. Conference whole morning with Yr. Rantoul going over preparation of import rate case.
Week end- Preparation of statistical information as to steamship
ing April lines fron the various ports, sailings, tonnage carried,
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etc.
April 29. Interview Mr. Rantoul on statistics already done.
Mr. Rantoul said that he had arranred a conference with
Mr. Kelly in Philadelphia for wednesday, May 3rd; that
Er. Kelly said that while he had no obdection to my being at the conference, yet that if I were formally invited he would have to invite his counsel, Mr. Jones,
which he did not seem desirous of doing. He added, however, if I were merely to drop in without any invitation
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he would be yery glad.

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I told Mr. Rantoul to tell Mr. Ives that I should have to
be in Baltimore on that date and therefore I could not
attend and I asked him particularly to caution Mr. Ives
not to enter into any agreement or alliance of any kind
with Philadelphia as any such course might seriously
handicap us in determining our course of procedure. I
added that of course any suggestions Mr. Kelly might
make it would be well for Mr. Ives to receive and say
that we would seriously consider them.
Wednesday, May
3.

Conference at Washington with Cummissioner Clark on the
import f?,nd export differential natter, specially as to
intervention of commercial trade todies.
Conference
cial bodies.

Mr. paish, counsel for Baltimore commer-

Friday,
May 5.

Conference at Baltimore with A.. G. Brown, Esq. l counsel
Baltimore Chamber of Commerce.

May 9.

Interview with Mr. Rich, General Solicitor of
and President Mellen.
I explained my policy to Mr. Mellen, namely:- to demand the
right in behalf of the port of Boston to meet the
lowest rate, that is, the Baltimore rate, on both
imports and exports; that if the Commission saw fit
to give a similar privilege to New 7ork, we would
have to take our chances along with the other ports
but that we sould make no alliance either with the
out ports or with New York. In so far as we attached
the export differential in favor of Baltimore, our
case would run in parallel lines with New York; in
so far as we maintained the right to the existing
parity of rates on imports with Baltimore and Philadelphia, we werenecessarilY opposed to New York. I
told Mr. Mellen that I thought that we could probably
hold the parity of rates on imports and that the existing differentials on exports against New York
anI Boston might possibly be somewhat reduced; also
that there was a bare possibility that Boston might
secure a slight differential under New York on export business.
He stated that as far as possible he wished the fight
to be made by the Chambers of Commerce as he thought
that would put the case in a stronger light.

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May 16.

Interview Mr. Rantoul one hour.
rave Mr. Rantoul my bound volumes of the exhibits in the
differential cases Of 1905.

June 27. Letter from Yr. Briscoe, Boston & Albany R. R.I dated June
23, enclosing copy of B. & O. and Pa. R. R. tariffs showing free storage on import traffic under certain conditions. Sent copies to Mr. Rantoul and Mr. Crane.
Letter from Yr. Crane, dated June 23, calling aitention
to case of New York Produce Exchange vs. N. Y. Central
&H. R. R. R.
August 1. Conference with Woodward Hudson, counsel of Boston &
Albany R. R. and Yr. Biscoe.
Went over the differential case and we agreed that it
would be better for the Boston Chamber of Commerce to
file an intervening petition and after that to consider
what, if any answer should be filed by the B. & A. R.R.

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July and
August.

At work five hours a day going over statistical matter
and making comparisons of tables; also study of law on
the subject; also preparation of analysis of all exhibits in the former Differential case and preparation
of list of new exhibits.

August 22. Conference between Chamber of Commerce and officials
of B. & A. and Boston & Maine railroads.
October 28.




In New York. Conference with Clyde Brown, Mr. Fairchild and Mr. Caldwell. Expenses $23.40.
Petition of intervention of Boston Chamber of Commerce mailed to the Commission for filing on Thursday, September 28.
Answer of Boston & Maine R. R. mailed to Commission
for filing Tuesday, October 3.
This answer was submitted to Yr. Rich and approved
by him; see letter to C. S. H. It was approved by
Mr. Crane in interview with C. S. H. October 3.

On conference with Clyde Brown, Esq., Gen. Solicitor
N. Y. C. R. Co., in New York Thursday, Sept. 28, it
was decided to allow the answer of general denial filed
by the N. Y. C. for itself and leased lines, includ-

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ing the E. & A. to stand without further answer from
the B. & A. Mr. Brown stated that he would inform
the Commission that C. S. H. represented the B. & A.
and had full authority to conduct the proceedings
for the B. & A. in any manner C. S. H. and the B. & A
officials deemed advisable, as if the B. & A. was an
independent line.
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30.

Oct.

6.

Order entered by I. C. Commission granting petition
of Intervention of Boston Chamer of Coml!lerce.
Sent copy of answer of Boston & Maine R. R. to Mr.
Fairchild, counsel in the N. Y. Chamber of Commerce
complaint'
70. 3993.

Oct. 29 to Attendance at Washington and trial of import differenNov. 2.
tial case.
Expenses railroad, sleeping car, hotel, etc.
Nov.2.

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$68.25

Received check from Bostnn & Maine R. R. for $500.00 on
account of retainer and services in the Import Differential cases. On the bill I found the following endorsement:"Arrangement made by MY. Tuttle and afterwards authorized by President Yellen".
I at once wrote E. J. Rich, Esq., the General Solicitor,
that while the matter was of no practical importance,
yet as I understood it, the arrangement for my representing the Boston & Ipaine was made directly through
him on March 23, 1911 and that I resigned as counsel
of the Boston & Maine R. R. early in September 1910.

Nov. 3.

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Interview with Vice President Berry over the telephone.
I told Mr. Berry that the Philadelphia interests, and
especially George S. Patterson, counsel of the Pennsylvania R. R., had asked me to come over to Philadelphia and have a conference with him, he making the suggestion that Philadelphia was willing to join with Boston in the Export Differential case.
He did not say whether Boston should come down to the
Philadelphia basis and both fight New York and Biltimore, or whether Boston and Philadelphia should come
down to the Baltimore basis.

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I told him I had no authority at the present time to
speak as to this but that I would try to arrange a
meeting with him later.
I also told Mr. Berry that I wished he would give me
authority at the proper time to state to the Commission
that if the Commission lowered Boston to the Baltimore
basis, the Boston railroads authorized me to say that
they were willing to come down to that basis and suggested to him that we enter into some negotiation as to
this with the interior railroads sending exports to
Boston over the Boston & Maine.
He seemed to think there might be same difficulty because of the loss of revenue of the interior roads because of reducing rates to the -paltimore basis He
said so far as the Boston & Maine R. R. was concerned,
he could say at once that it would be glad to make this
reduction if allowed by the Commission.

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I told him that I had heard indirectly that Mr. Fairchild, representing the New York Commercial interests,
had received a communication from the Erie R. R. statin7
that it would put down the rate if allowed by the Commission.
Mr. Berry said that if the standard lines under such
circumstances would not join Boston in reducing the
rate to the 7altimore basis, if allowed, he would at
once arrange to have such a rate put in through Newport,
Vermont, via the C. P. R.
I asked him if he would give MR later an assurance to
this effect and he said that I would hear from him
shortly.

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18.45

Oct. 8.

Extra telephone service,

Oct. 9.

Paid telephone service to Boston,

Monday,
Nov. 6.

Interview with Vice President Berry and Mr. Crane.

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T stated to Mr. Berry that one of the first questions
which would probably he put to me in the export differential case would be, on the assumption that the Commission warranted us in taking the Baltimore rate,-first
assuming that New York and Boston are permitted to take
the Baltimore export rate, will the interior railroads
connection with the Boston roads state that they are
willing to put in that rate.
Second, assuming that the Commission refuses permission to
New York to adopt the Baltimore rate but gives such permission to Boston, thus giving a lower rate through Boston than through New York; in such event, what would be
the attitude of the Boston roads and their connections
in the west?

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I told Mr. Berry that in my judgment that unless we could
answer both these questions in the affirmative, it would
practically end our case.
He said that if New York and Boston were both given the
right, he could say at once that I would be authorized
to say that they would take this rate.
On the second question he was more in doubt, although he
said that if the standard lines in the west would not
agree to put in the Baltimore rate through Boston, he
could undoubtedly induce the Canadian Pacific and Wabash
railroads to do this so that I should have authority to
state that it would be done.
I suggested that he take this matter up with the C. P. R.
and he directed Mr. Crane to write a letter to Mr. Me
Ginnis, Traffic Manager, to ask him whether the C. P.
would join with the Boston & Maine in the Baltimore export rate if permission were given it by the Commission
to do so, and further asking the C. P. R. to obtain from
the Wabash R. R. a similar statement.

-10Mr. Ives wrote me a letter dated November 25, asking me to
take up the matter of the division of the expenses of the
export and import differential, export and import cases,
between the Chamber of Commerce and the various railroads
interested.
He also stated that in the former case the Chamber of Commerce paid only one-fifth and the railroads paid the other
four-fifths of all expenses, including those of Mr. Preston.
Later, Mr. Ives telephoned that he was in error as to this
as the railroads paid only their share of the stenographic
reports.
Mr. Ives also sent me a letter from Mr. Byrnes, Vice President of the New Haven, to President Smith of the Chamber of
Commerce dated, November 24, in which Mr. Byrnes stated
that it could not contribute towards the expenses of the
Boston Chamber of Commerce as the company had already incurred large expense in the preparation of these cases and
will incur much additional expense in securing and preparing proper statistics for their complete presentation and
that in addition to this, they were paying counsel fees.
I at once called up Mr. Byrnes on the telephone and explained to him that there ;tere certain expenses that were
not those of the Chamber of Commerce alone but pertained
to the whole case, such as payment for one copy of the
testimony, for printing exhibits and printing briefs; als
for Mr. Rantoul's payment of 600 for special service in
compiling statistics, etc., the lattexbemployment being
with the approval of the railroad officials.
Mr. Byrnes then said that of course the railroads would pay
their share of these expenses and asked me to write him a
letter making such recommendations as I saw fit in the
matter and I accordingly wrote him November 27th, 1911.
Nov. 29. Cash paid express
Commerce--

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annual reports St. Louis Chamber of
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Preparing complete digest of all testimony in import
case.

Jan. 9.

Received from Boston & Maine share of my expenses to date in
differential case, $130.40; also share of Boston
Chamber of Commerce.

Jan. 18.

Received share of Boston & Albany R. R. making total
$130.40, the balance remaining have turned over to
the Boston Chamber of Commerce as the payments have
been made by them. See checks 9961 and 9977.

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Jan. 18.
Feb. 17.

Cash paid ticket to Washington, t,11.15-.
Cash paid drawing room,
$11.00.
Received from Chamber of Commerce $45.69, being their
share, one-quarter of expenses up to date.
Received from Boston & Albany R. R. $545.69, being
$500.00 on account and $45.69 for expenseu.

Feb. 21.

Mch. 11.
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Cash paid U. Holzer for binding Philadelphia
and Baltimore Exhibits,—

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$8.70.

Cash paid U. Holzer for binding digest of
testimony--

1.50

Cash paid for binding four copies of digest
of testimony--

5.00

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Apr. 1,

Cash paid Holzer for binding' digest of testimony (2 copies) bill of Mar. 26)t
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Cash paid Holzer for binding one copy of
Abstrnct of testimony (bill of Mch. 26)

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3.00

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Apr. 1.




Cash paid for railroad ticket to Washington
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11.25
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•April 2.
April 3.

Cash paid Miss Dowd for stenographic services. (This was rendered on bills sent
to railroads and Chamber of Commerce on
March 22, 1912.)
Cash paid for Dennison clasp envelopes-Expenses to Washirwton and Return,-Argument--

$107.76
.60
61.50

(See back of Hotel Belmont Bill)
(This .expense, ($61.50) includes the items under
date of April 1 on Page 11 ).
April.

May 6.

June, 19.

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Cash paid for telephone charges to Washington
of March 1, i.82; March 2, $1.51; March 3,
4,100
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3.33

Cash paid Hulse & Allen's bill of May 2, 1912,
for furnishing copy of my Ar7ument in above
hearing--

5.00

Cash paid for telegram from Bennett giving
synopsis of decision by Commission.

2.16

900