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SOME THOUGHTS ON
RESTRUCTURING THE FEDERAL BANK
REGULATORY AGENCIES

by William M. Isaac, Director

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Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation

Before the
92nd Annual Convention of the Iowa Bankers Association,'
( j) Des Moines, IowaeSeptember 2 5 7 T 9 7 § T ^ --------------—

SOME THOUGHTS ON RESTRUCTURING
THE FEDERAL BANK REG ULATO RY
AGENCIES

Today I w ill offer for your consideration some
ideas on restructuring the Federal bank regulatory
agencies. I want to arouse your interest, stimulate
your thought processes, and receive your
reactions on this subject. The thoughts that I w ill
express are my own and do not necessarily
reflect FDIC policy.
Numerous suggestions for restructuring the
agencies have been made over the past 40 years
or so. I believe that regulatory reform has taken
on added im port in view o f the current legislative
proposals designed to stop the erasion of
membership from the Federal Reserve System.
State banks* operate under a dual regulatory
burden. They are examined by both a State and
Federal agency, and whenever they file
applications — including applications for mergers,
branches, deposit insurance, the issuance of
capital notes, or the exercise of trust powers —
State banks must file with both the State and
the Federal agency. This system not only involves
a good deal of delay and duplication of effo rt
and expense, it subjects a State bank to the very
real risk that an application deemed acceptable
at either the State or Federal level w ill be denied
at the other level.
To date this dual regulatory burden has not
been sufficient to drive the smaller State banks
into the national system because it has been
offset on the other side by the cost of
membership in the Federal Reserve System and
by generally higher State bank lending limits.
A number of proposals have been advanced for
eliminating or substantially reducing the burden
of Federal Reserve membership. These proposals
include universal reserve requirements, the
payment of interest on reserves, and the reduction
of reserve requirements.
The reserve requirement and membership
issue is a complicated one into which I do not
intend to delve in this speech. But a few general
observations are in order. I believe that Congress
should and w ill act to substantially reduce the
cost of membership in the Federal Reserve System.
When and however that occurs, I believe that
many State banks w ill begin to look more seriously
at the dual regulatory burden under which they
operate. They might well conclude that
conversion to national bank status is desirable.
I believe in the dual banking system and would
*The d iscussion of dual regulatory burdens relates to
State nonmember banks insured and regulated by the
FDIC. State member banks are subject to similar but
not identical regulation by the Federal Reserve.




like to see it preserved. It is extremely
unfortunate, but I believe accurate, that the
viability of our State banking system currently
rests in part on the fact that national banks are
subject to a special tax in the form o f sterile
reserves maintained at the Federal Reserve.
I believe that at least some reformation of
our system of financial institution regulation
is overdue. I would like to consider a few
possibilities for reform. But first let me review
some of the other proposals which have been
advanced for regulatory restructuring.
OTHER PROPOSALS TO RESTRUCTURE
THE FEDERAL AGENCIES
Consolidation into a Single Agency

A number of proposals have been made over
a great many years to consolidate all three
Federal bank regulatory agencies into one.
Included are suggestions of the Brookings
Institution in 1937, o f various task forces of
the Hoover Commission in 1949, of the
Commission on Money and Credit in 1961, of
Federal Reserve Governor J. L. Robertson in
1962, and more recently of Senator Proxmire.
A single agency, it is argued, would be more
efficient, tougher in enforcement of laws and
of safety and soundness factors, and better
able to provide Congress and others w ith
accurate information about the banking
system. The principal objections to a single
^agency are the negative impact that they might
have on the dual banking system, concern over
the concentration of power, and a fear that the
agency might stifle innovation.
Consolidaton into Two Federal Regulatory
Agencies

Several proposals also have been made to
consolidate the examination and regulatory
activities of the present three agencies into two.
Frequently they contemplate creating an
additional board or agency to perform some
special function. Most such proposals envision
a Federal regulator of national banks and a
Federal regulator of the national aspects of
State-chartered banks. Almost w ithout exception
the proposal is that the Office of the Comptroller
be continued as the regulator o f national banks,
whether the name itself is continued or not. In
one proposal, however, merging the Office of
the Comptroller of the Currency into the
Federal Reserve System was contemplated.
The recommendations o f the Hunt Commission
(The President's Commission on Financial
Structure and Regulation) follow this pattern.
The most significant aspect of the Hunt
Commission plan is the proposed restructuring

on a functional basis. One agency would be
continued to supervise national banks, one
would be created to take over the examinationrelated activities of the FDIC and the Board
of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, and
another agency would be created to supervise
the Federal deposit insurance activities. Under
some conditions, savings and loan associations
and credit unions offering third-party
payments would be regulated by the banking
agencies. The Board of Governors would
remain as the monetary policy authority and
would retain activities relating to the monetary
policy and central bank functions.
In 1975 Frank Wide, then Chairman of the
FDIC, proposed a similar arrangement of
regulatory agencies at the Federal level, but he
made no recommendations about savings and
loan associations or credit unions. Also, his
recommendations about bank holding companies
differed from those of the Hunt Commission.
He, too, would have a board take over the
deposit insurance functions of FDIC. This
board would rely on the reports o f examination
made by the Comptroller of the Currency and
by the Federal supervisor of State banks, but
it would annually examine a small percentage
of both national and State banks to evaluate
the quality of those examination reports. Mr.
Wille also suggested that the Federal Banking
Board pay ad costs of examination and
supervision incurred by the two Federal
agencies and some of the costs of qualified
State banking .departments. He would have the
Federal Reserve System continue as the
form ulator of monetary policy, the Nation's
central bank, the lender of last resort, and the
Nation's representative among central banks
of the world.
Continuance of Three Federal Regulatory
Agencies

Despite the numerous proposals to consolidate
the three Federal agencies into one or two
agencies, there has remained a strong sentiment
in favor of the current structure. The present
agencies would be continued and a Financial
Institutions Examination Council would be
created under the Financial Institutions
Regulatory Act of 1978, currently under
Congressional consideration. The Council would
fu lfill many of the same responsibilities as the
present Interagency Coordinating Committee,
but would have some additional powers, too.
It would establish uniform examination
principles and procedures, would maintain
liaison w ith State agencies, and would conduct
schools for examiners including those from




State agencies.
Some reassignment of functions within the
regulatory agencies may be desirable even if the
present three agencies are continued. The FDIC
has contended that the present arrangement
for the examination and supervision of bank
holding companies is one of the areas that should
be altered regardless of the regulatory structure
that is finally adopted.
A FEW THOUGHTS

An essential first step in discussing the
restructuring of the Federal bank* regulatory
agencies is identification of the characteristics
that one believes to be desirable for such a
structure. In my mind there are at least five
important characteristics:
(1) A strong dual banking system;
(2) A strong Federal Reserve System w ith
all powers necessary for carrying out
monetary policy;
(3) Unified bank and bank holding company
supervision;
(4) A strong and efficient regulatory system
which w ill ensure a sound, responsive,
and innovative banking system; and
(5) Coordination between bank regulation
and the conduct of monetary policy.
Longer range, we may also desire closer
coordination between the regulation of bank and
nonbank financial institutions, a single insurance
system for bank and nonbank financial institutions,
and greater control over nonbank financial
institutions for monetary policy purposes. Any
system that we devise should allow evolution
to meet these additional objectives should they
be deemed important at some future date.
A strong State banking system is necessary if
we are to realize the full potential of the dual
banking system, There are two principal problems
with it at present. One is the diversity in the
competence and performance of State regulatory
authorities. There are some excellent State
banking departments that are well financed and
staffed w ith an adequate number of
well-qualified, professional staff members —but
there are not enough of them. The second is
that the delays, irritations, frustrations, and
costs of dual supervision and regulation are
discouraging to State-chartered banks. Both of
these problems are susceptible to resolution.
I believe that we ought to consider the
possibility of discontinuing the role of the
Federal Reserve in bank and bank holding
company regulation, substantially reducing the
involvement of the FDIC in bank regulation,
and transforming the Office of the Comptroller
of the Currency into an independent National

Banking Commission headed by a board of
directors. In suggesting a realignment of
functions, I do not want to leave the impression
that I am dissatisfied with the performance of
the present agencies or their staffs. I believe that
all three Federal agencies are ably staffed and
have performed well. Nevertheless, I believe
that our system of bank, regulation can and
should be improved. Let us examine the three
elements of this proposal, beginning with the
Federal Reserve.
Federal Reserve System

Under the proposal, the Federal Reserve
would give up all of its responsibilities for bank
and bank holding company regulation and for
promulgation of consumer and civil rights
regulations. It would focus on the conduct of
monetary policy (although it would retain its
central bank and lender of last resort functions)
and would have sole jurisdiction (at least at
the Federal level) over reserve requirements,
interest rate ceilings, and margin requirements.
Most proposals for consolidation of the
banking agencies have called for removing the
Federal Reserve from bank and bank holding
company regulation. Three principal reasons
have been advanced: (1) Placing monetary policy
and bank regulatory authority in the hands of
one agency is too great a concentration of
economic and financial power, (2) Monetary
policy and bank regulatory activities are each
full-time jobs and need full-tim e agency
attention, and (3) Conflicts inevitably arise
between monetary policy and bank regulatory
considerations and the same agency should not
be required to resolve them. As I noted at the
outset, an extremely important concern should
be the impact that the present regulatory
structure might have on the dual banking
system once the burden of Federal Reserve
membership is made less onerous.
If there is validity to the above arguments
for taking the Federal Reserve out of bank
regulation, then it becomes important to
determine the validity of, and to weigh, the
argument advanced by some that the Federal
Reserve's bank regulatory activities are
important to the conduct of monetary policy.
It would seem that the other bank regulatory
agencies could provide the Federal Reserve
with any information about the banking
system that is needed to conduct monetary
policy. Further, if the Federal Reserve were
represented on the boards of directors of
both the National Banking Commission and the
FDIC, there would be a continuous interchange
among these agencies. This would facilitate



close coordination between bank regulation
and the conduct of monetary policy w ithout
placing both activities under the wing o f a
single agency.

Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation

Under this proposal the Federal Reserve's
jurisdiction over State member banks would be
transferred to the FDIC which would attempt
to disengage from day-to-day regulatory and
supervisory activities. It may not be feasible for
the FDIC to withdraw completely from the
day-to-day regulation of banks in all States.
However, it seems to me that the FDIC could be
given the authority to withdraw from active
regulation in those States that have banking
departments that meet certification standards
established by the FDIC. In other words, if a
State banking department were certified by the
FDIC, then the FDIC's approval would not be
required on branch, merger, insurance, and
other applications of banks in that State, and
the FDIC would not conduct routine
examinations of those banks. If the department
were not certified by the FDIC, then the
FDIC would regulate and supervise the
State-chartered banks to the same extent that
it does today.
The principal inducement to States to
upgrade their departments would be to ensure
the survival of a strong dual banking system. If
the Federal Reserve membership burden is
substantially reduced, a certification program
like the one described, or some other measure
to reduce the burden of dual regulation, may
be essential to prevent large numbers of
conversions from State to national charters.
As an added inducement, and to assist the
States during a transition period, consideration
might be given to at least a temporary Federal
financial assistance program for States that
meet the certification standards. This could
be funded by the FDIC in an amount roughly
equivalent to the savings realized by the FDIC
as a result of the certification program.
The FDIC would retain its standby
examination authority w ith respect to all banks
and would conduct periodic examinations to
monitor the performance of the chartering
authority. The FDIC would retain its authority
to terminate insurance in any bank and should
have the authority to issue cease-and-desist
orders w ith respect to any bank.
The criteria used by the FDIC in certifying
State banking departments should be as objective
as possible. Some of the criteria which could be
used include:

(1) A u th o rity of the department to
investigate all matters relating to the
safety and soundness of banks under
its jurisdiction and the manner in which
these banks meet the convenience and
needs of their communities;
(2) Performance of the department in
enforcing consumer and civil rights laws;
(3) Organization of the department w ith a
board for review of quasi-judicial
determinations;
(4) Adequacy of trained personnel to
assist in administration;
(5) Independence of the department and
staff from political pressures in the
performance o f duties;
(6) Adequacy and competency of examiner
and supervisory personnel;
(7) Maintenance of research and legal
departments to work on banking problems;
and
(8) Adequacy of financing from State
sources, possibly supplemented by funds
expected from FDIC.
For the certification system to be effective,
the certification should be subject to periodic
evaluation by the FDIC. A department that lost
its certified status would find the FDIC again
involved in day-to-day regulation of banks in
its State.
The program as outlined could result in a more
efficient, vigorous, imaginative, and responsible
regulatory system for State-chartered banks. It
would be one in which the State sector would be
able to reestablish itself as an effective, full
partner in a revitalized dual banking system.
Under such a system, a State charter could and
probably would offer many advantages other
than lower reserve requirements and higher loan
limits, two of the principal reasons for presently
maintaining such a charter.
Office of the Comptroller of the Currency

Most plans for regulatory reorganization
have suggested that the Office of the Comptroller
of the Currency be continued as the regulator
of national banks. Some have expressed the
opinion that the Office should be made
independent of the Treasury since the issuance
of currency no longer is a function of that
Office and since the other Federal bank
regulatory agencies are independent. As a part of
such a plan, the Office (which I w ill refer to as
the National Banking Commission) might be
given a board rather than being permitted to
continue under the heading of a single
administrator as it is now. There could be
three appointive members on a five-person



board who could divide the responsibilities
of the Commission for day-to-day operations.
With a board member from the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation and w ith one from the
Federal Reserve Board as ex-officio members,
the board could serve as a deliberative body
and as one means of coordinating the activities
of all of the Federal regulatory agencies in the
banking field.
Under a deliberative board, especially one with
ex-officio members from the FDIC and the Federal
Reserve System, the responsibilities of the
Commission could be expanded beyond regulating
national banks. It could assume, for example,
some of the responsibilities presently assigned to
the Federal Reserve System, such as promulgating
regulations and passing on applications fo r all
holding companies and examining and supervising
all holding companies in which the lead bank is a
national bank. Holding companies (and their
nonbank subsidiaries) in which the lead bank is
State chartered would be examined by the FDIC
and/or the State regulatory agency. The Commission
also could regulate Edge Act corporations and
promulgate regulations in the consumer and
civil rights areas, such as regulations B and Z
relating to equal credit opportunity and
truth-in-lending. As a matter of fact, it might
promulgate all Federal regulations relating to
banks where uniform ity is considered desirable.
The regulations then would be enforced by the
FDIC and/or the State banking departments
with respect to State banks.
Finally, if the Federal Reserve System were
to move out of examination and regulatory
activities, it might be advisable for the
Comptroller of the Currency (or the head of
the National Banking Commission) to be
replaced on the FDIC Board by one of the
Governors from the Federal Reserve Board.
Doing so would give the Comptroller more
time to devote to the very full regulatory
responsibilities for national banks. Secondly,
some would argue that the regulator of
national banks should not be a member o f the
board of the Federal regulator of State banks.
Thirdly, Federal Reserve representation on the
FDIC Board and on the Commission's board would
give the Board of Governors a means o f viewing
both State and national banking developments.
Alternatively, the FDIC Board might be expanded
to five members. The five-person Board would
comprise three appointed members and two
ex-officio members, one ex-officio member from
the National Banking Commission and one from
the Federal Reserve Board.
This proposal calls for both the FDIC and
the Federal Reserve to relinquish some authority

- in part to the National Banking Commission
and in part to the State Banking Commissions.
I am not speaking on behalf of the FDIC and
obviously cannot speak on behalf of the
Federal Reserve, but I believe that both agencies
would be prepared to-relinquish bank
regulatory authority if doing so would bring
about a sounder and more responsive banking
system and regulatory structure.
The ideas that I have put forward today
involve some far-reaching changes in our
regulatory structure which would require
Congressional action. I encourage you to
consider these ideas and those which have been
and w ill be put forward by others, to evaluate
them and to consider whether they are
necessary, and to then participate in the
legislative process as the issue of regulatory
reform is considered. Your full and constructive
participation w ill be important to the quality
of the end product.
I believe that there is a better chance in the
next year or two that significant regulatory
restructuring w ill occur than at any other time
during the past 40 years. Senator Proxmire




recently encouraged President Carter to make
restructuring of the banking agencies "our
number one Government reorganization project
for next year." A recent report by a
well-known bank consultant concluded with
the following remarks which express clearly
the task before us:
It seems quite evident that Congress
and the banking industry w ill be
asked to give thoughtful consideration
to major reorganization of the Federal
bank regulatory structure, probably
during the next session of the
Congress. Any such reorganization
could hardly mean a simple
reshuffling of existing powers. The
consequences to the banking industry,
and to the public w ith which it deals,
can be enormous. It is essential,
therefore, that the forthcoming debate
proceed on the solid ground of
thoughtful analysis.
It is my hope that some of the ideas offered
here today will be of some value during the
course of that debate.




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