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FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION,

Washington, D.C. 20429

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NEW CHALLENGES FOR STATE BANK REGULATORS

An address by

William M. Isaac, Chairman
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
Washington, D. C.

presented to the

Eighty-first Annual Convention
of the
Conference of State Bank Supervisors

New Orleans, Louisiana
April 20, 1982

I
am honored to appear before you once again and to
have the opportunity to discuss the problems and challenges
facing bank regulators in our efforts to maintain a sound,
progressive banking system.
Since our last meeting, dramatic changes in our financial
system have continued, if not accelerated. We are at a
crossroads in the evolution of the nation's financial insti­
tutions, and some difficult choices must be made. These
choices will determine the direction and strength of our
country's financial system for decades to come.
Let me begin by telling you about our recent actions in
dealing with troubled thrift institutions, for we must
confront the problems of today before we can undertake the
task of developing for tomorrow a new regulatory climate in
which depository institutions are able to compete and prosper.
Then I will turn to some of the longer-range, structural
issues with particular emphasis on some issues directly
relevant to the survival of our dual or state/federal
banking system.
I.

The Current Thrift Problems

There is no need for me to belabor the current thrift
problems as they are well known to all of you. Our principal
concern and common goal must be to maintain public confidence
in the safety and soundness of all financial institutions.
We no longer have the luxury -- if we ever did -- of simply
waiting for the return of an economic environment in which
lower inflation and stable interest rates resolve the prob­
lems for u s .
During the last few months, as the surplus positions of
some of the nation's largest mutual savings banks became
seriously depleted, the FDIC and several state bank super­
visors were confronted with the alarming prospect of having
to close a number of those institutions and pay off insured
depositors. Such an event could have caused irreparable
damage to public confidence in the safety of deposited
funds, affecting not only other thrift institutions but all
financial intermediaries. Instead, our approach has been to
provide financial assistance to facilitate the acquisition
of seriously weakened institutions. This assistance has not
been intended as a stopgap measure; rather, it has been
granted to insure that the resulting institution will be a
financially sound, viable competitor. We have endeavored to
strengthen the financial system while maintaining a high
level of public confidence.
I cannot tell you that all of the problems are behind
us. Operating losses in insured mutual savings banks, which
reached epidemic proportions in 1981, continue at unacceptable




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levels. This trend will not be reversed until interest
rates are stabilized at significantly lower levels. While
solutions to the underlying economic problems lie beyond our
control as bank regulators, we must continue to take positive,
constructive actions with the tools we have at our disposal,
and to work with Congress and state legislatures in an
attempt to gain the additional flexibility necessary to deal
with the situations still ahead.
We take satisfaction in the accomplishments to date.
They could not have been achieved, however, without the
close cooperation of state bank supervisors, other federal
regulatory agencies and industry officials. The recent
merger transactions involving the Farmers & Mechanics Savings
Bank in Minneapolis and the Fidelity Mutual^Savings Bank in
Spokane serve as notable examples of situations in which
such cooperative efforts resulted in sound, innovative
solutions.
The bidding process for the $1 billion Farmers & Mechanics
was facilitated by the rapid passage of special legislation
in Minnesota to allow the acquisition of that institution,
as a commercial bank,, by an out-of-state bank holding company
under Section 3 of the Bank Holding Company Act. The use of
a competitive bidding process, which included both in-state
and out-of-state potential acquirers, resulted in a substantial
savings -- in excess of $50 million -- for the FDIC and,
consequently, for the banking system as a whole. Commis­
sioner Mike Pint and his staff are to be especially commended
for their response to this problem. CSBS itself played an
important role in helping us obtain swift adoption of the
Minnesota legislation.
The FDIC-assisted merger last month of the $700 million
Fidelity Mutual Savings Bank in Spokane once again illustrated
the value of a competitive bidding process that included
out-of-state as well as in-state firms. The participation
of potential acquirers in states nearby Itfashington resulted
in a savings to the FDIC of more than $20 million.
We believe events have demonstrated clearly that a
competitive interstate bidding process is an essential tool
that should be available to the FDIC in dealing with large,
troubled institutions. Our record shows this tool can and
will be used in a responsible fashion.
The nine assisted savings bank merger transactions to
date have been a learning experience for all of u s . We
sincerely appreciate the help and support provided by
various state supervisors and their staffs.




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Short of a dramatic turnabout in the economy and
interest rate environment, there is no panacea for the
problems facing the thrift industry. In recent months,
virtually everyone concerned about the condition of the
thrifts has advanced proposals for resolving the current
dilemma.
Unfortunately, a number of these proposals are aimed at
only one aspect of the problem and fail to address the
underlying structural weaknesses. So-called ’’bail-out”
plans, for example, can at best provide but temporary
relief. In our judgment, a subsidy, standing alone, would
be highly undesirable.
A comprehensive approach to the current situation is
needed, one that comprises several elements. First, as many
of you know, we have been quite vocal for some timé now in
calling for enactment of the Regulators’ Bill. Its passage
would expand our options in dealing with failing institutions
and would result in substantial savings to the insurance
fund and ultimately to the banking community. Although the
recent transactions in Minnesota and in Washington were
successfully accomplished without federal legislation, the
limitations of current law made them exceedingly complex and
cumbersome to effect. Those experiences underscore the need
for Congressional action and policy direction in this
uncharted area. We will soon be resubmitting an updated
version of the Regulators’ Bill, and I ask your continued
support for its prompt enactment.
Second, enactment of something akin to the Garn Bill is
essential to override state usury ceilings and due-on-sale
prohibitions and to expand thrift asset powers. This
legislation is needed to deregulate the asset side of the
balance sheet as we phase out the controls on what banks and
thrifts can pay for liabilities. The legislation would make
it easier and less expensive for us to handle failing thrifts
while enabling the survivors to become stronger, more viable
financial intermediaries.
Third, we need to continue the process of interest rate
deregulation. The phaseout of deposit interest rate ceilings
has been an area of ongoing controversy for several years.
While the Depository Institutions Deregulation Committee has
a mixed record, I am heartened by the adoption of the 3%year phaseout schedule at the last DIDC meeting. What is
still urgently needed is a competitive, short-term instru­
ment to reverse the outflow of deposit dollars to money
market funds and other intermediaries.




- 4 Fourth, some accounting changes may be appropriate.
Our staff is looking closely at possible accounting reforms,
such as moving from a historic-cost based system to a current
value based system to give institutions a greater ability to
restructure their asset portfolios while discouraging con­
tinuation of the investment and funding practices that gave
rise to the current problems. We hope to have some proposals
on this subject in the not-too-distant future.
Finally, some states and localities continue to impose
franchise taxes irrespective of whether a bank is profitable.
Savings banks are simply incapable of carrying this burden
given current conditions, and we urge local regulators to
lobby aggressively for abolition or curtailment of these
taxes.
II.

The Challenge to Our Dual Banking System

In my address to your convention last year, I focused
on the -challenge to our dual banking system resulting from
enactment of the 1980 Monetary Control Act. That law
equalizes, over a period of years, the reserve burden
imposed on state and national banks. I warned that one
consequence might be that state banks would begin to ques­
tion the desirability of remaining state chartered, partic­
ularly if the burden of dual regulation were not reduced
substantially.
We are beginning to see some evidence that a trend
toward selection of national charter is occurring. During
1979, for example, 53 national banks converted to state
charters, while only one state bank converted to national
charter. Contrast that to 1981, in which 23 state banks
converted to national charters, while only 12 national banks
converted to state charters. Looking at new banks in 1979,
283 state banks were chartered, compared to only 79 national
banks. In 1981, 112 national banks were chartered compared
to 124 state banks. The rush toward state charters has
clearly subsided; indeed, there is already some movement in
the other direction, even though it will be several more
years before the reserve burden is fully equalized.
As you well know, I have long been a proponent of our
dual banking system. It permits local, as opposed to
national, jurisdiction over state-chartered institutions.
This brings government closer to the governed and provides a
healthy counterbalance to excessive concentration of power
at the federal level. Perhaps the greatest justification
for our dual banking system, though, is the potential it
holds for developing a multiplicity of innovative approaches
to banking problems and issues.




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The banking industry is facing major challenges today
on two fronts. First, the economy is troubled and turbulent.
Second, the competitive environment is becoming intense.
Under these circumstances, excessive and inefficient regulation
has become intolerable. Astute bankers, quite understandably,
are demanding that every significant aspect of the regulatory
system be either justified anew or abolished.
The state banking system has experienced numerous ups
and downs over the past two centuries. It has miraculously
survived even deliberate attempts to abolish it in favor of
a unified national system.
In my judgment, we are entering another crucial testing
period. The state banking system could easily, through
neglect, wither away over the next decade or two. Or it
might, with a great deal of effort on the part of many
people, be invigorated.
I am not certain of the outcome. However, I believe I
can identify the factors that will determine the ultimate
fate of the state banking system. Those factors are: the
degree to which state banks are deregulated and the rapidity
of the deregulation process.
There are two distinct types of deregulation which must
take place if banks are to remain viable in the 1980s and
beyond. State banking authorities have the opportunity to
lead the way along both avenues. If they do, the state
banking system will be revitalized and given a new lease on
life. If the states fail to move forward, more than a few
questions will be raised regarding the continuing justi­
fication for the dual banking system.
The first form of deregulation is defensive in nature.
It involves streamlining our regulatory procedures to
achieve maximum efficiency and reducing the regulatory
burden. The second form of deregulation is offensive in
nature. It involves granting banks authority to offer a
broader range of financial services in geographic markets of
their choice.
A.
Reducing the Burden of Regulation. Although much
remains to be accomplished, we -- tne states and the FDIC -have already made significant progress toward the goal of
streamlining procedures and reducing the burden of regulation.
Let me give a few examples.
Our experience to date with the Divided Examination
Program, whereby the FDIC and state authorities alternate in
the examination of institutions and share examination reports,




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has been quite successful. This program not only reduces
the burden on banks, it allows both state regulators and the
FDIC to employ their resources more efficiently. Currently,
27 states participate in this program, an increase from 18
states last year. The program now covers more than 4,613
banks and saves the FDIC, state authorities and the banks
under their jurisdiction millions of dollars each year.
We are also planning increased use of off-site sur­
veillance for monitoring balance sheet relationships and
earnings trends, while at the same time decreasing the
burden of frequent full-scope, on-site examinations. Such^
efforts will permit us to concentrate on troubled institutions
and on specific problem areas. This will result in a
reduction of the number of days that our field examiners
remain on the bank premises and a lengthening of the exami­
nation cycle for those institutions with a history of sound
performance.
A major effort is underway to reform our entire^
applications process, which in the past has been a timeconsuming, expensive and sometimes frustrating experience
for bankers. We have substantially simplified and shortened
our application forms. The development of "core1 application
forms has laid the groundwork for common applications to be
made to both the state authorities and the FDIC. Currently,
27 states have joined us in this program. Applications are
being processed simultaneously by the FDIC and most states,
which further minimizes expense and delay.
We have delegated increased authority to our Regional
Directors to approve applications, which again reduces
expense and delay. Most recently, our Board of Directors
delegated to the Regional Directors authority for approval
of deposit insurance applications. Further delegations are
contemplated with respect to mergers, and in the branching
area we are working on a complete overhaul of our procedures.
Our Regulations Task Force is in the process of re­
viewing all of our regulations, eliminating those that are
no longer needed and simplifying others. Each regulation
must go through a cost/benefit analysis, and small bank
exemptions must be utilized wherever feasible. We have
urged, and will continue to urge, Congress to undertake a.
major revision of unduly burdensome laws such as Truth-inLending, FIRA and CRA.
We have instructed our examiners to use good judgment
and common sense in enforcing the law. If a bank is attempt­
ing in good faith to comply with the law, our examiners will
respond in a positive manner and try to help the bank improve




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its performance. Toward that end, we have conducted a
nationwide series of seminars, attended by thousands of
bankers, for the purpose of explaining and improving com­
pliance with a wide range of laws and regulations.
I could go on, but I have probably said enough to make
my point. We believe that banks -- particularly the smaller
ones -- are operating under an excessive regulatory burden,
and we intend to do everything in our power to alleviate it.
We are also convinced that we can improve our effectiveness
in bank supervision while at the same time reducing costs.
B.
Expanding Bank Powers. The second form of dereg­
ulation -- giving banks greater authority to enter new
geographic and product markets -- is far more important than
the first area, but is also a far more difficult area in
which to obtain progress. Each time it is proposed that
banks be permitted more flexibility in a given area, potential
competitors throw up innumerable legislative roadblocks.
This has stymied any substantial progress at the
federal level. As a result, there is an opening for the
state banking system to lead the way.
Bank competitors have evolved into full-service financial
intermediaries. Sears is but one good example. It owns a
savings and loan association, a major insurance company, one
of the largest investment banking houses and a major real
estate brokerage firm. It is also initiating a money
market fund and has announced its intention to move into
consumer deposit-taking and lending activities.
How can we justify a legal and regulatory system that
permits Sears and others to engage in the full range of
financial services while denying banks and bank holding
companies comparable authorities? If Sears can own an S&L,
on what basis do you deny the same authority to banks and
bank holding companies? The same question must be asked
with respect to the real estate brokerage, investment banking
and insurance activities of Sears. If Sears can open con­
venient offices at locations of its choice, why should we
deny the same right to banks?
In my opinion, the current disparities in regulation
between banks and unregulated financial intermediaries are
intolerable and will be rectified. Although it is possible
that some new regulatory constraints will be placed on those
who enter the deposit-taking field, I believe the basic
thrust of public policy in the years ahead will be to grant
banks and bank holding companies greater freedom to compete.




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The question is whether the state banking system will
lead the way or tag along as we enter banking's new era. I
recognize that to a certain degree your hands are tied by
federal laws which limit your ability to respond. Never­
theless, I believe you ought to be exploring avenues for
broadening the authority of banks and bank holding companies
to enter new geographic and product markets so long as the
activities are financially-oriented and consistent with
sound banking principles. The states are ideally situated
to function as experimental labs in which new ideas can be
tested. This allows experimentation, providing the oppor­
tunity to test and evaluate new approaches in banking on a
limited scale.
I am convinced that the future of our dual banking
system rests in your hands. If you join forces with us in
reforming and simplifying our procedures, strengthening your
departments and providing state banks greater competitive
opportunities, the dual banking system will survive and
prosper for decades to come. If you fail to respond to the
current challenges, the state banking system will have been
dealt a potentially crippling blow during its hour of need.
Let me thank you again for giving me this opportunity
to appear before you.




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