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JAN 2 3 1979

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Talking Points

before the

European Economic Community Banking

by-

Stephen S, Gardner
Vice Chairman
Board of Governors
of the
Federal Reserve System

November 25, 1977

Luxembourg

Federation

Introduction:
I am very pleased to be here.
It is always
better for those who differ to try to reconcile or
understand each other's positions.
The events
of
last weekend in the Middle East are an example of
that principle.
But I feel much more comfortable
than those engaged in that difficult discussion.
The reason is very simple.
Neither the Federal Reserve
nor I want a foreign banking bill that is unfair or
treats .foreign banks wishing to establish operations
in the United States differently than American banks.
That should be an agreed principle.
It: is what we
have hoped to achieve.
Neither of us has been successful so far. And we must renew our efforts to seek
reasonable and fair legislation.
If we are not successful, we will suffer from a discriminatory law now or a
worse lav; later. We regulate banks very carefully in
the United States.
There
is no possibility that your
banks will escape Federal oversight and regulation
indefinitely because all American commercial banks
are subject to some form of Federal Govenment rules.

Legislative

Sponsorship:

The Federal Reserve with support of the Administration and Congressional leaders has been proposing
a Foreign Bank Bill for three or four years.
Last
year, the House of Representatives passed such a
Bill, but it was not taken up in the Senate before
the 94th Congress adjourned.
This year the Subcommittee of the House Banking Committee passed a
new bill.
It will be taken up in the House early
in 19 78. Plans are already announced,
I expect the
Senate to take up the bill if the House completes its
work on the measure.
The issue is too well publicized
to fade away because:
1,

Our Congress is keenly interested in multinational banking in the U,S, and overseas.
International financial flows of funds and
credit, like international trade, and economic progress worldwide are on everyone's mind.
Money markets are global.
The strength of
the dollar is of considerable importance
to us .

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2.

Foreign banks have come to the U.S.
in impressive numbers. More are coming,
and those there are. expanding.
They
are of growing importance in our money
centers and yet they arc outside the
sphere of central bank monetary policy
operations.

3.

There are 50 States in our union. We
did not become an industrial power by
leaving all regulation of commerce and
finance to the individual States.
A
Federal Act will assure a national
policy towards foreign banks for your
benefit as much as ours.

4.

Our banking system is uniquely diverse
and complex.
Our regulations, both
Federal and State, are equally so, but
they have worked well since the depression
of the 1930's.
There is a tradition in
the public interest to assure the safetv
of the banking system, to prevent concentrations of economic power, and to restrict
banks to activities that are closely
related to banking.
Your segment of our
banking industry is too large and important
to escape attention.

The Federal Reserve ProposaIs:
All of the legislation that the Federal Reserve
has recommended or supported has been guided by the
objective of achieving fair national treatment for
foreign banks.
It is never easy to incorporate an
unregulated segment of an industry into a regulatory
structure, but we have tried to firmly adhere to the
principle of national treatment in the original legislation.
First, we provided for Federal chartering of
foreign banks for those who wished to come here under
Federal charters rather than State charters.
We
included provisions to permit foreign banks to establish
Federally chartered branches and agencies as our own
banks can. We provided measures to allow foreign
bank holding companies that are not set up according

-3to our laws to freely engage in banking in the U.S.
while retaining activities that would be prohibited
to our banks. We proposed the grandfathering of all
existing multi-State activities of foreign banks.
We
strongly supported the grandfathering of the securities
affiliates that have been established in the U.S. We
carefully prepared the Act: to make certain that a
foreign bank coming to the U.S. would do so under
guidelines established by national policy in national
legislation in order that there would be clear and
appropriate rules for foreign banks in all 50 States.
We proposed that large banks become members
of the Federal Reserve System subject to our regulations and that they qualify to receive the privileges
of membership.
Since virtually all of our commercial banks
are insured under a Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation plan, we also proposed that an alternative plan
especially tailored for foreign banks be required.
Finally, we suggested, quite understandably,
that foreign banks have the same powers for organizing
branches and agencies that are available to American
banks.
Clearly, these latter points are the controversial issues between us, and 1 will be glad to
answer questions on each item.
But let me say I know
of no central bank that cannot impose its monetary
and credit policies on its domestic banks.
1 know
of no incorporated American bank of a true commercial composition that is not Federally insured.
And
I know of no American bank today that has the power
to branch throughout the 50 States.

The Present Draft Bill:
The present draft bill yet to be considered
by the full House Banking Committee will satisfy
neither of us.
The Subcommittee's draft refused to
grant permanent grandfathering of securities affiliates
proposing that their activities be ended by 1985.
The
specific language of the bill indicates that after
1985 securities business of foreign banks would be

restricted to that permissible for national banks
in the U.S. At present, national banks in the U.S.
cannot: own securities affiliates.
You know that the
Federal Reserve Board has strongly recommended permanent grandfathering of all existing nonbanking
activities because that is the only way we see to
fairly apply national treatment to our foreign friends.
We will work hard to reverse the action of the Subcommittee, but I have some concern because this will
not be easy.
State banking authorities in the U.S. have
succeeded in convincing their Congressional representatives that State-chartered foreign banks should
be permitted to have branches and agencies in any
State in the Union and that any restrictions on interState branching would apply only to foreign banks that
apply for Federal charters.
Obviously, no one will
seek a Federal charter on such a basis.
Further, State
law will cover those of you who wish to establish
branches or agencies in a particular State and you can
conceivably be denied admission as well as welcomed.
Under the bill we proposed, you would be free of the
difference in such State laws.
The Congress also amended our request for
equal deposit insurance coverage by suggesting that
it only apply if the States so require it. Not all
States do require deposit insurance.
But our system
is so pervasive that it does now indeed cover essentially all commercial banks and certainly all member
commercial banks.
There is a cost to this which our
own institutions must bear, and there is another
advantage to the Federal regulatory authorities.
Rarely do we liquidate banks that have gotten into
difficulty.
But the powers of the Deposit Insurance
Corporation are such that they are able to arrange
mergers and acquisitions of failing banks without
suffering the dire economic consequences that leave
depositors and borrowers without banking facilities
in the event of bank failure.
The question
of monetary and credit controls
are near and dear to the hearts of all central bankers.
We have attempted to relax our original 19 74 proposal
significantly.
At that time, we would have required
membership in the Federal Reserve System of all banks

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with more than $500,000 of worldwide deposits.
The
present bill provides for membership of those banks
with worldwide deposits of a billion dollars, but it
limits that requirement to Federally chartered foreign
banks. We have really streamlined our requests by
recommended an associate form of membership offering
the Federal Reserve's services that our members enjoy
as well as requiring the typical reserves that all
large money center banks keep with us. Parity in rules
for large foreign banks and large American banks is
the point at issue here, and 1 won'I belabor it because
I doubt that there is any central banker in your
country or elsewhere who would think it unusualy that
we have such powers when our own currency and our
domestic monetary system are involved.

Conclusion:
I hope we will have a chance to discuss your
concerns here.
It seems to me that the European
Community Banking Federation meeting is an ideal forum
to debate these points.
I am deeply grateful to
Presiden Haeusgcn for inviting me to Luxembourg because
there are some difficult days ahead in our legislature.
Chairman St Germain of the Subcommittee on Financial
Institutions Supervision, Regulation and Insurance has
assured me on the day I left the U.S. that the entire
matter would be debated thoroughly when this session
of Congress reconvenes in late January.
He has told
me that he fears the intent and purpose of the bill
has been changed by the amendments, and 1 suspect
that none of us would be satisfied with the present
Committee draft.
At the Central Bank and in the Administration,
we have a considerable challenge in impressing on all
State banking authorities the need for a fair and appropriate bill. This is always a most difficult matter in
my country, but I am not disheartened.
The world is
too small and all of us luive too much interdependence
both in trade and finance to avoid continuing efforts
to establish fair and conforming statutes and regulations
between our countries in all matters of commerce and
finance.
It seems essential that Americans have a fair
national policy toward foreign banks and I earnestly
hope we can achieve this goal.
Thank you.