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CREDIT AND REAL ESTATE DEMAND

Remarks of

SHERMAN J. MAISEL
Member
Board of Governors
of the
Federal Reserve System

at the

First Annual Meeting of the
American Real Estate Association
in conjunction with
Allied Social Science Associations

New York City

December 23, 1965

CREDIT AND REAL ESTATE DEMAND

I am pleased to participate in this inaugural meeting of
the American Real Estate Association.

For the past tw enty years,

my work in the fields of money and banking and urban real estate
economics has been closely related to the problems with which
this Association is concerned.
While I have been well satisfied with the personal
challenge offered by these fields, a nagging source of discontent
has persisted.

We seem no closer to solutions for our urban

problems than twenty years ago.
opposite is the case.

In fact, I would say that the

Our urban needs have multiplied faster

than the resources devoted to them and more rapidly than our
ability to deal with them.
I think most persons would agree that except for the
problems of peace our urban environmental problems are as critical
as any we face.
apace.

All too often we find it more difficult to obtain pure

air to breathe.
quality.

Noise, dirt, and confusion of urban life grow

We are hard pressed for enough water of adequate

Our use of space appears esthetically poor.

to walk at night in our urban centers.

Many fear

Space for recreation...

for housing...for education...all seem to decline relative to our
needs.







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The intellectual, economic, physical, and moral
resources required to solve this crisis of urban growth are
tremendous.
to grow.

Our crises, unless faced directly, will continue

I know that the members of this new Association can

be counted on to contribute their own skills.

I trust that the

prestige of the Association itself will bring still others into
the fray.

Improvements in Urban Life and Monetary Policy
Several months ago, I picked the topic "Credit and Real
Estate Demand," in order to emphasize some qualitative questions
raised by the rapid expansion of mortgage credit.

Cut circumstances

changed, and events this month have spotlighted a different aspect
of the topic:

what are the relations between changes in interest

rates and changes in the rate of construction and urban develop­
ment?
Clearly, because real property is so important both in
current production of durables and in current financing, a close
relationship must exist.

Based on past data, at least, we should

expect that a policy of curtailing credit expansion and raising
interest rates will have its greatest impact in reducing new
investment in private and public real property.




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Some people argue that because the social costs o£
delaying urban investment are high, the impact of monetary policy
in this area should be offset by selective countermoves through
such media as FNMA., FHA, FHLBB advances, or public subsidies.

The

problem is difficult, however, for clearly if a policy of cutting
over-all potential demand is to be successful, particular parts
of the economy must grow more slowly or contract.
An associated impact may affect the quality of credit.
Usually one would expect better quality with restricted lending,
but there is a possibility which must be faced up to that the
opposite might occur.

Credit and Construction
First, let me highlight a few of the relationships
between real property, construction, and mortgage credit, recognizing
that some construction is financed elsewhere in the capital market
than in the mortgage sector.

Over the postwar period, new con­

struction, both private and public, has been equivalent to between
10 and 12 per cent of the total value of the nation's output of
goods and services.

(See Table 1.)

Moreover, this form of capital

formation has totaled more than half the aggregate expenditures on
all other types of durable goods combined--including such durables
as business equipment, consumer automobiles, household furniture
and appliances, and durables purchased by the Government for
defense and other purposes.

Table 1
TOTAL EXPENDITURES ON NEW CONSTRUCTION,
TOTAL DURABLE GOODS, AND ALL GOODS AND SERVICES 1S46-64
Dollar Totals for Five-Year Periods
(Billions of dollars)

New
Construction

Durable Goods
Excluding
Construction

Gross National
Product

New Construction
As a Per Cent of
GNP

New Coasltruction
As a Per Cent of
Total
Other
Durable
Durable
Goods
Goods

1946-1950

120.4

239.G

1233.7

10.4

34.;

53.5

1951-1955

211.5

385.5

1001.3

11.7

35.4

54.9

1956-1960

272.0

463.4

2295.0

11.9

37.3

50.7

1960-1964

255.0

447.5

2290.3

11.1

36.3

57.0

Source: Office of Business Economics, Department of Commerce,
Survey of Current Business, August 1965.







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Rec?l

property, of course, is a major type of wealth.

The latest available estimates for 195C show that private and
public structures and land together accounted for two-thirds of
the nation*s aggregate tangible wealth.

(See Table 2.)

Nonfarm

structures alone represented half of the nation's total wealth.
Credit secured by private residential and commercial
property has been rising sharply.

As a result, mortgages now

constitute the largest single type of long-term public or private
indebtedness.

During the current business expansion alone, mortgage

debt outstanding has increased by some $127 billion.

(See Table 3.)

That was about double the amount of increase in outstanding long­
term debt of all Federal, State, and local governments and private
corporations, combined.
The rise in mortgage debt becomes even more dramatic
when seen over the last decade.
expanded by $200 billion.

Since 1955 mortgage debt has

Its growth has been equivalent to

four-fifths of the expansion in gross national product--one
rough index of aggregate ability to service outstanding debt.
These records considerably surpass the results for the decade
immediately before when the economy was emerging from the aftermath of war.




Table 2
STRUCTURES AND LAND COMPARED WITH TOTAL
TANGIBLE NATIONAL WEALTH OF THE UNITED STATES
(Billions of dollars)

Year

Total National
Wealth

Structures

Land

Structures
and Land

Structures and
Land as a Per
Cent of Total

1045

570.1

285.6

115.3

400.9

1050

1,054.6

507.3

189.3

696.6

66.1

1S55

1,334.0

683.6

238.2

921.8

66.6

1958

1,682.9

833.7

290.9

1,124.6

66.8

1

70.3

Source: Raymond W. Goldsmith, The National Wealth of the United States in the Postwar
Period, Princeton University Press for the National Bureau of Economic Research,
1562. Data exclude Alaska and Hawaii and should be regarded as approximate
only.

Table 3
NET EXPANSION IN MORTGAGE DEBT
(Billions of dollars
Nonfarm
Total

Multifamily
and
Commercial

Per Cent
Increase in
Total
During
Period

Expansion
Total as
Per Cent of
Expansion
in GNP

Total

1-4
Family

37.3
57.1

36.0
54.1

26.6
43.1

11.0

1.3
3.0

104.9
78.4

34.4
54.7

94.4

90.1

69.7

20.4

4.3

265.5

44.4

77.0
127.5

73.1
119.8

53.0
69.0

20.1
50.9

3.0
7.6

59.2
64.2

81.4
79.1

204.5

192.9

122.0

71.0

11.4

157.4

79.5

35.5
334.0

30.8
313.3

10.6
209.0

12.2
104.3

4.3
20.7

______

17.0^/
49.32/

Farm

Dec. 30 to D<*c. 30
1945 - 1950
1950 - 1S55
Decade

1955 - 1960
II 1960-11 1965Decade

9.4

Memo: Total
Outstanding
IV 1945
III 1965

11

a/ June 30 to June 30.
b / Total outstanding as a per cent of GNP.
Source:




Federal Reserve estimates.

— — —




The Transmission Process
Monetary policy as an instrument of economic stabilization
policy must depend on the relationships between the credit and
production spheres.

The reasons why credit restraint or ease

affect outlays for construction more than any other sector of the
economy are readily comprehended.
In the first place, existing stocks of real property
embody potential flows of services that extend far into the future.
Postponement of new construction, therefore, need not materially
cut back current utilization of services.

As a corollary, because

annual new production flows are small relative to existing stocks,
small changes in the demand for services tend to magnify fluctuations
in current construction.

This is, of course, a variant of the

well-known acceleration principle.
Secondly, we have noted that purchases of real property
are heavily financed by borrowing.

Because the assets are durable

and the financial instruments long, interest costs bulk large in
total user costs.
In the past, while investment in most real property has
varied in response to changing credit market conditions, this
sensitivity has been especially evident in residential construction.
It is perhaps worthwhile recalling just how large the swings have
been.

(See Table 4.)

Measured in terms of expenditures for nonfarm

residential structures, in constant

dollars, declines during periods




Table 4
EXPENDITURES FOR NCNFARM RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES
PEAKS AND TROUGHS

Quarter

Expenditures* Dollar Change
Billions of 1958 Dollars

Per Cent
Change

1953 - IV

18.4

1955 - II

25.1

+ 6.7

+ 36.4

1950 - II

19.0

- 6.1

- 24.3

1959 - II

24.7

+ 5.7

+ 30.0

1960 - IV

20.2

- 4.5

- 10.2

1964 - I

25.1

+ 4.9

+ 24.3

Source: Office of Business Economics, Department of Commerce,
Survey of Current Business, August 1965.
*Seasonally adjusted quarterly totals at annual rates*




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of tight money have been as large as 24 per cent from peak to
trough; increases stimulated in part by easy monetary policies
have been as much as 36 per cent from trough to peak.
The effects of changing credit conditions on outlays
for new private residential construction are obvious to the naked
eye.

For other areas of spending, including business outlays for

plant and equipment and State and local construction, refined
statistical methods are required to find the degree of interest
elasticity.

Finally, there is little evidence of a direct impact

on outlays on consumer durables from changes in general credit
conditions--probably because consumer credit terms are less influenced
by monetary policy.

Thus the statistics seem to confirm the view

that construction outlays bear the heaviest impact of credit policy.

Savinas and Financial Institutions
I have elsewhere described at length the path by which
credit influences construction.

This is from monetary policy to

the mortgage market, and from there to construction spending. U
The process begins with changes in the lending and investing capacity
of commercial banks brought about by Federal Reserve control over
bank reserves.

One link to the mortgage market is direct.

In periods

when they had ample lendable funds, commercial banks accelerated their
mortgage acquisitions.

When loanable funds were short relative to

customer demands their appetite for mortgages declined.

1/

cf., S. J. Maisel, Financing Real Estate (McGraw-Hill, New York,
1965), Chapters 4, 11, and 13.




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As a result of banks becoming more competitive for savings
in the 1960fs, a new pattern may have developed.

In this current

economic upswing, a different sequence of events has emerged.

With

time deposits rising rapidly, commercial banks have continued to
extend real estate loans in volume.
Monetary policy also influences the mortgage market
through its effect on the share of the savings flow captured by
nonbank financial intermediaries.

Because these institutions lend

on long maturity instruments with fixed rates, the income and there­
fore the interest or dividend rates they pay tend to be rather
inflexible in the short run.

In periods of tight money, market

rates of interest rise faster than rates on the depository-type
claims they issue.

Individuals decide to channel their new flows

of savings into higher yielding market securities.

Growth rates

of deposits at mutual savings banks and savings and loan associations
are thereby moderated.

Because of the heavy commitment of these

institutions to the mortgage market, changes in the inflow of funds
to these institutions are of critical importance to the supply of
mortgage money.
This effect of rising market interest rates has been
augmented in the past when banks have increased the rates they pay
on time deposits.

In recent years, the ceiling rate banks may pay

under Regulation Q was raised with each increase in the discount
rate.

Banks took advantage of each change.

The resulting effect on




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savings flows through nonbank intermediaries has been noticeable
this year.

Savings and loan shares and mutual savings bank deposits

together have been growing at about an 0 per cent annual rate thus
far in 1965--compared with about 11 per cent in 1964.

Growth of time

deposits at commercial banks, on the other hand, has accelerated.
Commercial banks put some of the savings they bid away from other
institutions back into the mortgage market, but they do not commit
anywhere near as high a percentage of their earning assets directly
to mortgages as do their major competitors in the savings field.
Indirect support for construction, of course, has come through the
purchase of municipal obligations, FNMA and FHHLB securities, and
through loans to business.
Monetary policy is transmitted to the mortgage market in
still a third way through a: substitution between mortgages and
long-term corporate securities by nonbank lenders.

When monetary

policy puts upward pressure on rates of interest, new corporate
issues become more attractive relative to mortgages, and the supply
of mortgage money is restrained.
Because mortgage financing requires commitments of funds
at fixed rates well into the future, adjustments in this sphere
work themselves out more slowly than in other credit markets.

The

first three quarters of 1965, for example, showed little evidence
of significant changes in yields on home mortgage lending, despite
marked increases in other rates of interest and a slower growth
pace for savings and loan shares and mutual savings bank deposits.

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However, these reported terms primarily cover loans under past
commitments.
rates*

New funds apparently are being committed at higher

A further stiffening would be expected from recent monetary

action.

Credit and Resource Allocation
As you know I opposed the increase in the discount rate
early this month.

Among the reasons for my opposition was a belief

that higher interest rates might cause an undesirable reallocation
of resources.

Monetary restraint to be effective must take its

biggest bite out of the construction of private and social capital.
Given our present critical problems in the area of urban development,
this is capital that we can ill afford to lose.

If restraint was

needed it seemed to me that fiscal measures tailored to curb
socially less urgent expenditures would have been more appropriate.
While I was concerned with the need for expansion of
our urban resources, I do not agree with the arguments made by many
who contend that Regulation Q ceilings should not have been raised.
At least some of them seem to propose a most dubious and even
dangerous use of Regulation Q.

The Federal Reserve was given the

duty to set interest rate ceilings on deposits for the purpose of
maintaining the safety of banks and of our monetary system.

Is this

the purpose that these individuals have in mind when they argue that
banks should noti be allowed to pay savers more for their money?
they really concerned primarily with the possible imprudence of
bankers?-




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Many seem to be urging the Board to bend the use of our
statutory authority to purposes for which it was not intended.
They appear to want fixed Q ceilings in order to influence or
control any or all of the following decisions which appear in
the past to have been biased when Regulation 0 established ceilings
below the market,
1.

The allocation of resources between savings
and consumption.

2.

The allocation of resources between housing
and other goods.

3.

The competition between banks and other
financial institutions.

4.

The amount and rate of interest paid to the
small saver for his hard-earned savings.

Let me first consider the reasons why it is dangerous to
use Regulation C to change the allocation of resources and the
payment to savings and then go on to say a little more about the
regulatory and supervisory problems which might arise if banks were
to use improperly the enhanced flexibility allowed them by the new
ceilings.
The logic of those who believe in our free enterprise
system and the importance of private saving within it and yet
argue for an artificial ceiling on the amount of interest that
can be paid to individuals who are willing to substitute saving
for consumption is hard to understand.







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It seems to me that the whole concept of containing
expansions in demand through credit restraints calls for taking
all possible action to shift as much demand as possible from
consumption to saving.

While many economists doubt the effective­

ness of higher interest rates in increasing saving, enough people
believe that the price mechanism works in this market also to give
it a trial.

Nonprice policies of greater advertising, special

savings bonds, and other promotional steps may also be useful.
However, many people have used as a major argument for raising
interest rates such actions1 ability to attract savings and lower
the demand for goods.

Any attempt to hold down rates paid to

savers must be in direct conflict with this goal.
I also recognize the economic advantage to financial
institutions of a policy of price discrimination.

Still in seems

to me inequitable to pay at the expense of the small saver higher
interest rates to families or corporations that can accumulate
large amounts of saving.

In the past our national tradition has

been to attempt the reverse, i.e., we have preferred to pay higher
rates to the small savers.

I think our past traditions have major

advantages over these new-fangled concepts both from the point of
view of individual equity and from the point of view of more
effective monetary policy.

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Furthermore, I object to the idea that we should have
retained the previous Regulation Q ceiling in order to keep down
normal competition among financial institutions.

I feel certain

that this is not the purpose of the Federal Reserve Act.

In addition

I believe that such action would have meant an unnecessary inter­
ference with our free market system.

Setting rates to curtail

rational competition imposes an artificial barrier obstructing the
movement of funds to their most profitable uses.
I recognize that the market cannot determine certain
desirable social uses of out national resources.

Clearly this is

why we use taxés and subsidies in an attempt to improve our urban
life*

I do believe, however, it is far better to place resources

in socially desirable areas by direct action through a vote of
Congress rather than through the indirect regulation of interest
ceilings paid by financial institutions.

The ways in which such

regulations influence resource allocations are very difficult to
determine and evaluate.

I find no indication in the legislative

history that Congress meant to delegate powers to be used for such
purposes to the Federal Reserve and FDIC.
It seems to me that it would be much better for those
who argue that market mechanisms are not working properly first
to identify the social objectives that are being left unfilled.
Then they should estimate the possible costs and benefits of their
proposals to interfere with the market.




When this has been done,

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specific policies devised to move us directly toward our goals are
more likely to be successful than indirect measures through inter­
ference with competition among financial institutions.

Quality of Credit
While some objections to the increase in Regulation Q
ceilings have arisen because of the fear of a misallocation of
resources, others seem to stem from a feeling that it is too
dangerous for some financial institutions to compete freely in the
market for savings.

Those who object on these grounds to the recent

increase in the Regulation Q ceiling are basically arguing, I believe,
that financial institutions cannot be allowed to participate fully
in the free enterprise system.

These persons feel that excessive

competition among these institutions was the cause of many of the
difficulties of the 1930's,

They also feel that present methods of

regulation and supervision are insufficient to control such competition.
Since I am now in the business of regulating, I obviously have some
sympathy with this point of view,
I must point out, however, that this argument is incompre­
hensible to many.

They note that there are three main risks in

credit extension:

1) individual random risks that are particularly

strong in new loans, 2) a risk of a downturn ini.economic conditions,
and 3) the risk that lènders will lower their standards in granting
new loans.




Clearly one would expect that in a period of credit
restraint all three of these risks would be decreased,
of credit is being reduced below demand.
in their choices.

The supply

Lenders can be stricter

In fact I have heard many arguments in the past

six months for the need to tighten credit in order to improve its
quality, based on this reasoning.
One clear concern about the quality of mortgage credit
has arisen from the past record of exceptional growth.

Within only

the last three years, at least $175 billion in mortgages have been
put on the books, assuming (very conservatively) that it takes two
dollars in gross lending to increase outstanding debt by one dollar.
More than half of all mortgage credit outstanding today, in other
words, has yet to pass the early years of testing when difficulties
most often appear.
This fear has not impressed me because it will always be
true that the larger the growth, the greater the volume of untested
credit.

Only by reducing growth to below zero could we do away with

unseasoned debt, and only then at the expense of creating other more
serious problems.

Moreover, the difficulties that have emerged in

terms of rising foreclosures still appear to be at quite modest
levels.

It also seems clear that if tighter money succeeds in

decreasing mortgage flows then the danger from this risk of
expansion will be less.




-19A similar statement can be made with respect to those who
feared the construction of real property was outrunning the demand
for it and that we might experience another 1929.
not an argument that I found convincing.

Again this was

Most recent work seems to

indicate that the problems of the 1930fs were far more results of
reductions in demand after 1929 than from the prior expansion in
supply.

They resulted from the Great Depression and fall in income.

While particular markets can be disorganized by too great supply,
there is little indication that such difficulties become critical
unless they are accompanied by a major downturn in total demand.
I,
place.

therefore, did not fear that too much building was taking

I recognized the social needs for a better urban environment.

In a forward-moving economy, we could absorb the new additions to
our stock of real property.

Now since monetary restraints will

reduce the rate of expansion of supply, the risks of an over-supply
should fall accordingly.

Only the risks that total demand may not

continue to expand have increased, but these risks would have been
still greater if Regulation Q had not been changed.
I would judge then that people must be worried about the
third point.

They must fear that instead of lenders using the

opportunity of tighter money and higher interest rates to improve
the quality of their portfolios, they will succumb to greed or ignorance
and make more marginal loans than they have in the past.

Many people

seem to assume that the increase in the Regulation Q ceiling may put
the most aggressive mortgage lenders in a position of being able to







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pay exceptionally high rates on time deposits by reaching out for
loans that yield high returns.

If this temptation becomes too

strong to resist, some lenders may get into trouble by failing to
exercise proper caution in making their loans.
Individual lenders will need to continue to exercise
particular care in determining what rates they can pay savers and
in making loans.

An escalation of rates above the true market would

be inefficient and dangerous.

Now is no time to be carried away in a

search for the highest yielding mortgages to justify higher dividends
on savings.

As a supervisory authority, the Federal Reserve will

obviously try to continue to see that the credit extended by
individual banks meets acceptable standards.

VJith more true savings

in the economy and demand lowered through higher interest charges
this should be easier than in the recent past.
What is necessary is that every lender be prudent.

But

prudence must be combined with the ability to foresee the real
opportunities for constructive lending which the needs of urban
growth present.

The attention that members of this Association

give to these problems should increase our understanding of the
process of growth in real property.

They should also help to assure

that what growth takes place in the future will be of a quality of
which we can all be proud.