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THE U.S. ECONOMY IN 1985 AND BEYOND

Remarks o f Mr. Robert P. Forrestal
President
Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta
to the Southeastern Lumber Manufacturers Association
March 23, 1985

I am delighted to have an opportunity to speak to you today because my message,
while not without certain concerns and caveats, is essentially hopeful.

I would like to

talk about the economic outlook for 1985, both for the nation and the Southeast.

In

a broader context, I would also like to discuss several factors that will fundamentally
shape the longer term prospects for our economy.

Before I do, perhaps I should first

explain very briefly the role o f the Federal Reserve System in our economy and how
the Fed’s actions can influence the economic outlook.

Federal Reserve Functions

The Federal Reserve System has three main functions:

the formulation and

implementation o f monetary policy; the supervision and regulation o f banks to maintain
a sound financial system; and the provision o f financial and central banking services.
Conducting monetary policy is the function that bears most directly on the performance
o f the economy, although the Fed's contribution to a sound and stable banking system
indirectly enhances the economy’s capacity to expand in a steady fashion.

The system’s organization is complex, but this structure makes us less sensitive
to short-term political pressure.

The Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta, like other

District Banks, shares responsibility for monetary policy with the Board o f Governors




-2the Federal Open Market Committee, or FOMC.

This com m ittee consists o f seven

governors from the Board and five District Bank presidents.
appointed to staggered terms by the President with

Die seven governors are

Congressional approval.

Bank

presidents are chosen by directors o f their respective Reserve Banks, subject to Board
approval.

With the exception o f the New York Fed, District Bank presidents serve as

voting members o f the FOMC on a rotating basis, but they always have an opportunity
for input at policy discussions.

I shall have my first opportunity to vote in next week's

FOMC, but I have been a participant for a year and a half.

The New York Fed plays a

key role in carrying out monetary policy through its trading desk, which buys and sells
government securities as a means o f expanding or contracting the nation’s money supply.
Consequently, the President o f the New York Fed is a permanent voting member o f
the FOMC.

Policies set by the FOMC influence economic activity primarily through the
e ffe c t that our actions have on bank reserves and on monetary growth and interest
rates.

Actions to raise monetary growth will result in lower short-term interest rates

and, in turn, more stimulus to the economy.

Die F O M C s ability to a ffe c t the rate

o f monetary and credit expansion also enables it to mitigate inflation.

The Fed can

justifiably claim the lion’s share o f credit for the much abated rate o f inflation we
have experienced over the last few years.

Thus, the Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta

plays an important role maintaining sound payments and banking systems and formulating
monetary policies

that have

international economic outlook.

a profound

influence

on

the

regional,

national,

and

I am happy to be able to report to you today that, in

my opinion, the outlook for the coming year and perhaps well beyond is quite promising.




-3National Scene

The outlook for

1985 cannot be assessed without reviewing

the economy’s

performance in 1984 and evaluating what the underlying conditions at year’ s end portend
for the next 12 months.

A t the beginning o f last year many economists had serious

doubts about the recovery’s strength and durability, and most were predicting rather
modest GNP growth.

In addition, expectations were widespread that inflation would

be higher than in 1983.
the

exchange

rate

of

On the brighter side, many economists forecast a decline in
the dollar

and, hence, some

improvement in our nation’s

international trade situation. My views were generally similar to this consensus outlook.
A t that time, I projected that the economy was likely to slow to a growth rate o f around
5 percent and that unemployment would probably hover at the 8 percent level, perhaps
dropping to 7 1/2 percent by the end o f 1984.

In addition, I expected inflation to pick

up to about 5 percent.

Although these projections were not far o ff the mark, it was my happy experience
to have erred on the side o f underestimating the enormous growth in GNP while
overestimating both the inflation and unemployment that we actually experienced in
1984.

As you all know, 1984 brought heady economic growth.

GNP expanded at a rate

far in excess o f what many, including myself, had anticipated, while inflation remained
more moderate than generally expected. The full-year growth rate was nearly 7 percent,
the highest in over 30 years.

This expansion was led by consumers, whose purchases

o f homes, cars, appliances, and a myriad o f durable and nondurable items spurred
businesses to increase production, expand their work forces, and build their inventories
in anticipation o f continued strong sales.




Business investment, particularly in machinery

-4and other equipment and, to a lesser extent, in new plants, also contributed significantly
to the expansion we witnessed in manufacturing as well as construction.

Despite a sharp slowdown in the third quarter that rekindled doubts about the
longevity o f the expansion, we finished the year on a strong note with healthy growth
and abating inflation.

Concerns voiced only a month or two ago that our expansion

might not last much longer have been quelled, and expectations are now widespread
that growth will continue at a moderate but respectable pace throughout 1985.

This

slower pace is a welcome change from last year's very rapid growth rate which,
especially early in the year, threatened to rekindle inflation.
weaknesses currently exist in the economy.

Few imbalances or

Healthy monetary growth, perhaps overly

so, and an adjustment o f inventories have laid the groundwork for economic growth in
the coming months.

Consumer purchases, investment by businesses, and expenditures

by the government all should contribute to making 1985 a good year, with real GNP
growth probably in the range o f 3 1/2 to 4 percent.

Consumer spending is likely
employment continue to advance.

to

remain healthy

since personal

income

and

However, growth in consumer spending should not be

as sharp as in 1984 because last year's sharp gains in consumer purchases were in large
measure the
recessions.

result o f demand that

accumulated during two, almost back-to-back

Most o f this deferred demand has already been met.

Business spending on

capital goods should continue to support expansion in 1985, even though the growth rate
in business investment, like that o f consumer spending, probably will be slower than in
1984.

The sustained growth o f final demand should provide sufficient impetus fo r

ongoing expansion in capital spending by businesses this year.




In addition, business

-5investment in inventories will likely rebound somewhat, following a sharp deceleration
in the fourth quarter o f 1984 and an improvement in final sales.

A major source o f short-term strength is fiscal policy, which is highly stimulative.
Defense expenditures in particular should work to maintain substantial momentum in
the nation's factories, even if some cuts are applied in this area.

Another stimulus is

monetary growth, which rebounded smartly in recent months a fter a previous weakening,
particularly in the growth o f M l.

This growth and the associated declines in interest

rates should encourage economic expansion in 1985.

By making it relatively cheaper

for builders to undertake new projects, reduced credit costs should spark an improvement
in home building, as new data suggest, even though a return to the booming single­
family construction that we saw in the recovery stage is unlikely since much o f the
pent-up demand for housing has been filled.

O f course, some potential problems and weaknesses loom in the months ahead,
and certain sectors o f the economy are less likely to be sources o f expansion this year.
Perhaps the foremost area o f continuing weakness is the international sector.

The high

exchange value o f the dollar and the slower recovery abroad have sapped considerable
strength from American farming and manufacturing.

Producers o f textiles, apparel,

and other goods that are sensitive to foreign competition experienced weak growth in
1984, and their condition probably will not improve much in 1985.

In addition, industries

with a heavy dependence on exports, such as agriculture and machine tools, cannot
hope for much stimulus from foreign demand.

In contrast to recent business cycles in

which the adverse e ffe c t o f high real rates has been felt as "crowding out” o f construction
and capital investment, foreign trade has suffered the most in this business cycle.
While capital spending and residential building proceeded apace despite high real interest




-6rates, the merchandise trade deficit for 1984 totaled over $123 billion, far higher than
the previous record shortfall o f $69 billion in 1983.
value o f the dollar is uncertain.

Tbe outlook for a decline in the

Despite narrowing interest rate differentials and large

trade deficits, the trade-weighted index o f the dollar has risen considerably just since
the beginning o f 1985.

Even if the dollar were to decline, it would take time to have

a substantial e ffe c t on trade patterns.
policy.

A second potentially dampening factor is tax

Uncertainty about possible tax changes may cause businesses to defer planned

investment, particularly in the near term, until the nature o f tax changes likely to be
enacted becomes more evident.

On the other hand, investment could increase as

businesses rush to take advantage o f current tax incentives before they are rescinded.

Because o f the likelihood o f slower growth in consumer spending and business
investment, unemployment will probably decline much less this year than it did in 1984.
Still, I am quite hopeful that it will fall below the seven percent mark.

Import

competition, lower oil prices, and bountiful harvests should hold price increases to 3 1/2
to 4 percent, close to recent trends.

Overall, I look for respectable economic growth

consonant with this stage o f an expansion.

Lumber Industry

The outlook for the lumber industry will be influenced largely by two factors,
interest rates and exchange rates.
months.

Mortgage rates have fallen for the last seven

In February, conventional fixed-rate mortgages averaged less than 13 percent.

As a result, construction should revive somewhat.

Residential construction, particularly

apartments and condominiums, did, in fact, rise sharply in January.
demand for lumber products should strengthen.




However,

With that upturn,

much o f this expected

-7resurgence in demand could be met by foreign suppliers.

The Canadian dollar has

declined against the dollar by about 13 percent since 1980 and nearly 8 percent in the
last year.

Current exchange rates give Canadian imports a considerable edge over U.S.

products. Thus, it is no surprise that Canadian lumber producers have gained a substantial
share

of

the

total

U.S.

Department estimates.

market,

almost

one-third,

according

to

U.S.

Commerce

At the same time, the strong dollar and weak recoveries abroad

have contributed to a decline in American lumber exports, particularly o f softwood like
southern pine.

Without a dramatic reversal in the value o f the dollar, the outlook for

significant change in this situation appears dim.

Consequently, prospects for lumber

producers in the Southeast and elsewhere in the nation are less promising than for
some other industries.

Intermediate Range Problems

The way to dispel the clouds on the horizon o f the lumber industry is not the
short-term fix o f protectionism, about which I shall have more to say in a moment.
Rather, re lie f from this situation is to be found by addressing the most significant o f
several intermediate range problems that need to be resolved over the next few years.
These problems include inflation, unemployment, the deficit, real interest rates, and
international trade.

O f these, I believe the d eficit is the most serious.

The rate o f price increases did decelerate dramatically in the early 1980s and
has remained a moderate four percent despite the rapid economic growth we experienced
last year.

Nonetheless, little

more than a decade ago four percent was deemed

sufficiently high to warrant the imposition o f wage and price controls.
have room for more improvement on this front.




Clearly, we

Similarly, the progress we have made

-8toward reducing the unemployment rate from double-digit levels is cause for enormous
satisfaction with our economy’s capacity to rebound.

Still, the current jobless rate

indicates we are short o f the full-employment level to which we as a nation have been
committed since the end o f World War II.

Moreover, unemployment remains much

higher than the national average in many industries and areas.

Certainly, we must

strive to lessen the human suffering and unrealized economic potential implied by these
statistics.

The most significant problem, and the source o f several others including weakness
in the lumber industry, is the very large federal budget deficit.

As macroeconomic

growth moderates and the deficit increases in absolute terms, the federal budget deficit,
even adjusted to the level that could be expected if we had full employment, is likely
to remain around 3 1/2 to 4 percent o f GNP throughout 1985 compared to an average
o f about 1 percent since the mid-sixties.
reasons.
rates.

This deficit is extremely troubling for several

Large federal budget deficits tend to exert upward pressure on real interest
High real rates increase business costs generally and discourage investment.

such an environment,

consumer

demand

for houses,

autos,

appliances,

In

and home

furnishings is also dampened, and as a result, the lumber industry has less hope o f
prospering.

D eficit problems a ffe c t the international sector as well because high real U.S.
rates make dollar-denominated investments more attractive to foreigners.

The higher

return from holding dollars raises our currency’s exchange rate and thereby worsens
our trade d eficit by raising prices foreigners must pay for exported U.S. goods and
lowering prices Americans pay for imports.

A continuation o f the current international

situation could result in a resurgence o f protectionism.




Only a few years ago certain

-9representatives o f the U.S. forestry industry petitioned for countermeasures to stem
the tide o f Canadian lumber imports.

It is understandable that some firms would welcome protectionist measures to
help them ride out what many economists view as an abnormal exchange rate situation.
However, protectionism tends to adhere to Newton's Third Law in the sense that action
by one country is usually followed by countermeasures in other countries.

It may take

years o f negotiations to return to the degree o f free trade that prevailed at the outset,
even when protectionist policies are conceived as mere interim measures.
by

curtailing

the

incentives

for

innovation,

improvement,

and

Moreover,

necessary

reform,

protectionism ultimately weakens the very businesses and workers it is intended to
protect.

When shifting patterns o f international trade are due to long-term changes

in comparative advantage, the wisest public policy is often to do nothing except facilitate
the transition to other economic activities that promise more lasting growth.

When

such shifts are attributable to unfair foreign practices such as subsidies and non-tariff
barriers, then the answer lies in enforcing or extending international agreements like
the GATT.

This solution is not to be found in the sort o f beggar-thy-neighbor policies

that proved so disastrous earlier this century.

Another adverse consequence o f protectionism today could be to snuff out the
weak economic recovery in many developing countries by reducing their access to
American markets, eliminating a major source o f the limited growth they have achieved.
The situation in developing nations is important to Americans as well as citizens of
those nations.

Many less developed countries are heavily indebted, and while default by

a third-world nation is highly unlikely, the problem o f LDC debt is a serious and longlasting one.




It requires continuing surveillance and careful consideration as we fashion

-10or modify policies intended to correct domestic economic problems and promote growth
in the United States.

Longer Term Outlook

Let me turn now to the outlook for the future in a broader context and over a
longer term period, say, to the end o f the century.

Looking beyond 1985, it is, of

course, much harder to project accurately how the economy will fare.

Nonetheless, it

is possible to identify the fundamental forces o f strength and weakness as well as
changes that seem to be occurring in the structure o f the economy.

In my judgment,

there are at least three critical environmental factors at work in our economy and our
society generally that will shape our destiny for years to come.
demographic changes, and the evolution o f a global economy.

These are technology,
I will discuss each o f

these in turn as well as their implications for public policy.

When historians and other observers look back in another 50 years to the era o f
the 1980s, they will no doubt compare our technological revolution to the industrial
revolution o f the 1800s.

Even though, in typical human fashion we are becoming used

to our new technology and even taking it for granted, the fact remains that we are
witnessing and living through a miraculous time in history in terms o f technological
breakthroughs—going into space, computerization, miniaturization, to say nothing o f the
advances in medical science and associated surgical procedures such as the mechanical
heart.

These are truly wonderful developments that will enrich the lives o f people

everywhere.




-11In economic terms, the application o f new technology generally results in higher
productivity and greater economic growth in the aggregate.
historically been a technological leader.

The United States has

Experiences o f the last two decades have

made us forget that terms like ingenuity and innovation are virtually synonymous with
Am erica and that technological leadership is fundamentally related to our political and
economic leadership among nations.

In the last recession, American businesses learned,

or rather relearned, the importance o f investing in technologically advanced equipment
and methods in order to compete in the global marketplace.
yet

Nonetheless, we have not

fe lt the full e ffe c t o f that investment, and productivity advances have been

inconsistent.

Productivity grew about two percent last year, the postwar average rate

for the second year o f an expansion.

The longer term challenge will be to find ways

to foster greater productivity gains, especially in the service sector.

This part o f the

economy is likely to provide a vast portion o f the new jobs in the future, and services
historically

have

been

less

amenable

than

manufacturing

to

technology-induced

productivity advances.

A

second

environmental factor

that will a ffe c t us and our policies is the

demographic changes that are occurring in our society.

First, we have the "graying"

o f the population and, second, the maturing o f the postwar baby-boom generation.

The

aging o f our population has profound implications for the way in which we structure
our work force, retirement, Social Security, and our health care and health delivery
systems.

With respect to the "baby-boomers," absorption o f these men and women into

the labor force is virtually complete.

Consequently, finding entry-level jobs should be

less difficult than over the last decade and a half.

As the postwar generation passes

through its peak spending period, demand for all sorts o f consumer goods should be
strong.

Productivity should also increase as a larger proportion o f the nation’s work




-12force consists o f experienced workers, who tend to be more productive.

Since the

number o f students now entering school is generally less than when the baby boomers
were moving through the educational system, the need to invest in bricks and mortar
to accommodate larger student populations should abate.

That will leave a larger share

o f public funds for improving the quality o f education, a trend that should add to gains
in productivity expected from other factors.

A third environmental factor is the evolution o f a truly global market economy.
We have come to realize, I hope, that the United States no longer buys and sells only
within its own borders.

With the possible exception o f the Soviet bloc, the world is

truly one marketplace. The obvious implication o f this development is that U.S. industry
and business must learn to compete more e ffe c tiv e ly with foreign producers.

I do not

for a moment believe that we need to berate ourselves, as we often do, about our
performance relative to other economies.

In the first place, our manufacturing sector

is not nearly as bad o ff as some would have us believe, and the potential for significant
advances in productivity is at hand.
good as, i f

not better

I firm ly believe that American management is as

than, management anywhere

in the

world.

Nevertheless,

improvement can be made, and we do need to raise our productivity and the quality of
our products so as to compete more e ffe c tiv e ly in world markets.

As pointed out in a recent report o f the Committee for Economic Development,
one way to improve our productivity and product quality and thereby enhance our global
competitiveness is to remove government barriers and regulations to the greatest possible
extent and to allow free market forces to work in our economy.

This is a polite way

of saying, le t’ s get the government o ff our backs. If we need any evidence that this is
the right way to go, we need only compare our nation's economic performance during




-13the recovery to that o f many developed and developing countries.

Too frequently, their

economic growth has been constrained and stifled by a large public sector’s unintended
e ffects on the economy and its ability to adapt to change.

Cradle-to-grave welfare

systems are limiting economic recovery in Europe and perpetuating high unemployment
rates. In LDCs, measures such as price regulations on certain basic goods are distorting
their

economies, bloating

development.

their underground sectors, and generally

retarding their

If our government w ill retreat from the private sector, i f the public

sector is diminished, market forces will hone our com petitive edge and, thereby, enhance
our position in world markets.

Finally, let me add one other environmental factor.

I believe that we are now

emerging from a period o f deep negativism in our country to a far healthier attitude
of hope and positive thinking.

During the 1970s, our nation underwent enormous changes

such as the shock o f oil price increases following the formation of OPEC and the
implementation o f a new series o f regulations designed to make our products and work
places safer and our environment freer o f pollution.

In addition, the momentum o f

far-reaching social change begun in the 1960s continued into the 1970s.

Once barriers

to racial and sexual equality began to be removed, as a society we began to address
more subtle and harder-to-remove vestiges o f inequality.

It is not surprising that in

this environment o f profound social, political, and economic change that Americans
began questioning and criticizing some o f the fundamental aspects o f our culture.

The changes that occurred exacted a considerable toll, although future generations
will probably look back and thank us for making most o f the decisions that we did.
Fortunately, the pains o f this transition are essentially behind us, and along with that,
I believe people are becoming more positive about our nation's performance, economically




-14and in other spheres.

I am grateful that we are moving away from our period o f

malaise and that Americans are more upbeat about themselves and more adaptable to
the economic realities o f the 1980s, particularly the implications o f global competition.

Still, we must nourish this renewed faith in our nation’s institutions.
not become misled by the bad news we often hear and read in the media.

We should
As an open

and free society, we are often our own severest critic; so it is natural that bad news
rather than good fills most o f our headlines.

A t the same time, we must keep our focus

on the substance o f news reports and on the underlying forces at work in our economy
and our nation lest we lose the com petitive

edge that comes with well-founded

self-confidence.

Policy Implications

In assessing and evaluating these forces in our economy, I would o ffe r the
following prescriptions to ensure that we have sustainable, noninflationary growth through
the end o f the century:

(1) take advantage o f new technology and improve productivity;

(2) invest in human capital by well-chosen policies designed to improve the quality o f
education and the working environment; and, most importantly, (3) reduce the federal
budget d eficit over the next five years so that the mix o f fiscal and monetary policies
works more e ffe c tiv e ly to create an environment for stable economic growth.

We

cannot afford to have future generations pay the price for our failure to keep our
fiscal house in order.

Let me conclude where I began.

Nineteen Hundred Eighty-Five will be a year

o f good economic growth, with relatively low inflation and unemployment.




There are

-15and always will be dangers, problems, and uncertainties.

When you add to the economic

concerns I have already mentioned, other problems such as the Middle East, Central
America, arms control, terrorism—and the list goes on and on—it is obvious we live in
a dangerous and d ifficu lt world.

But I am an optimist, and I think we optimists have

proven over tim e to be the realists.

I really believe the future holds promise.

This

country has always been a strong, proud, progress-oriented nation with a deep-seated
b elief that today is better than yesterday and tomorrow will be better than today.
are at the threshold o f a new world, but we are also at a crossroads.

We

I f we can solve

our problems, we have the chance to create an economy and a society that will provide
unparalleled prosperity fo r us, our children, and our grandchildren in the years ahead.
We can succeed i f we have the wisdom and the w ill to do it.




I believe we can.