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Prospects for the U.S. Economy
Remarks o f Robert P. Forrestal, President
Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta
To the Economic Society o f South Florida
Miami, Florida
October 9, 1985

Good afternoon! I am delighted to be here with you today to share my thoughts on
the outlook for our nation's economy, a topic I'm sure is very much on the minds o f each
o f you in your daily work.

My comments will focus first on where we have been and

where we are now, economically speaking. Next Til o ffe r my views o f where we seem to
be headed over the next year or so.

Finally, Til be making some remarks about the

imbalances that are currently generating pressures in several areas and which portend
serious long-range problems unless measures are quickly undertaken to correct them.
When I've finished, Til be happy to entertain questions not only about the economic
outlook but also other topics o f current interest, such as the financial services industry.

Review o f Recent Economic Perform ance

A fter

two years marked by dramatic recovery and expansion from a severe

recession, economic performance became hardly more than lackluster in the first half o f
1985. Although many people, including myself, fe lt the pace o f growth had to slow from
the extrem ely high rates we had been experiencing early in 1984, lest bottlenecks
develop and a rekindling o f inflation ensue, I expected a transition or adjustment period
o f about a quarter followed by sustained growth o f around 3 percent that has proven our
long-term average in the post-war period. Thus, I admit that I have been a bit surprised
that economic expansion slowed by as much and for as long a time as it did. GNP growth
was virtually fla t in the first quarter and a modest 1.9 percent in the second.

Last

December and January the nation's jobless rate actually edged up slightly and then held
steady at 7.3 percent for six months. Moreover, these developments occurred despite the
fact that money and credit have been expanding at a very rapid pace for almost a year.




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Fortunately, the third quarter seems to have brought the economy closer to the
2 l/2-to-3 percent growth rate that 1 fe e l is consonant with this stage o f the business
cycle. The "flash" estimate o f GNP indicated growth for the July-September period was
2.8 percent, stronger than many analysts anticipated. Many other indicators o f economic
activity support the view that we are seeing a meaningful improvement in business
activity, and, quite frankly, I sense more positive expectations in many business people
with whom I have spoken lately.
percent mark.

The unemployment rate finally dipped below the 7.3

In September the proportion o f the labor force unable to find work was

7.1 percent, up only slightly from the August rate o f 7.0 percent.

Consumers propelled much o f this long awaited revival in economic activity.
Housing has improved over the summer, apparently in response to declines in interest
rates.

Auto sales also surged as consumers rushed to take advantage o f manufacturers'

low financing rates.
August.

Factory orders, including those for nonmilitary goods, rose in

Finally, one o f the most positive features o f our recent economic performance

is the very low level o f inflation we have had. The rate o f price increases for consumer
goods has actually fallen lately, and we are likely to finish the year at a full-year
inflation rate o f less than 4 percent, a better performance than last year.

Despite this moderate rebound, several sectors o f the economy remain cause for
concern. Paramount among these, in my view, is the international sector. Between July
1980 and February o f this year the foreign exchange value o f the dollar rose over 90
percent against the currencies o f our major trading partners. Last year we had a record
trade d eficit o f over $120 billion, and this year the figure is likely to be even higher
given the lags with which changes in exchange rates usually a ffe c t trade flows. Ongoing
increases in the value o f imports over exports have exerted a considerable drag on
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Why has the dollar become so strong in the 1980s after almost a decade o f
sustained weakness relative to other currencies?

Certainly, a primary cause o f the

dollar's strength is the very large federal budget deficits we have been running up in the
last few years.

The sheer size o f these deficits and the expectation that they would

continue have put substantial upward pressure on interest rates especially in the context
o f a strong recovery in which both businesses and consumers have also been borrowing
heavily.

Our total demand for credit might well have outstripped the supply available

from our pool o f savings had it not been for foreign investors.

Attracted by our high

interest rates, lenders from abroad provided a very large share o f the funds we needed to
finance our public and private spending spree.

O f course, other factors no doubt

contributed to the availability o f foreign savings to fund American debt. There appears
to have been an shift in the preference o f foreigners for dollar-denominated assets
compared with the 1970s, and this shift may have occurred for reasons that lie beyond
the dynamics o f our economy alone.

Whether perceived political instability elsewhere in

the world enhanced the view o f the United States as a "safe haven" for investments or
other explanations account for this change in foreign preference for dollars, this shift,
along with the deficit-generated pressures exerted on U.S. interest rates, has attracted a
vast amount o f foreign financing.

On one hand, we have benefited from the availability o f foreign funds to
supplement our own inadequate pool o f savings.

For example, we have been able to

sustain high deficits without sharp increases in interest rates that normally would have
brought construction to a virtual standstill.

Consumers have been able to go deeply into

debt to pay for purchase o f new homes, cars, appliances, and numerous other items.
Businesses have been borrowing heavily to finance mergers and acquisitions as well as
investment in inventories, equipment, buildings, and other purchases that are usually
financed.




A t the same time and on an even larger scale, the public sector has been

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relying on debt to make up for the difference between spending and revenues.

Rising

government expenditures, especially for defense, have fostered strong gains in both
output and employment in related industries. For several years, thanks largely to foreign
creditors, Americans as individuals and as a nation have been on a spending binge that, at
least until a year ago, propelled enormous macroeconomic growth.
"guns and butter," as it were.

We have had both

However, this foreign source o f credit has not been

without its costs. The key problem has been the rise in the foreign exchange value o f the
dollar that has been associated with the increased demand for dollar-denominated assets.

The deleterious effects o f the sharp rise in the dollar are most apparent in the
manufacturing and agricultural sectors.

A

heavy

toll has been taken on those

manufacturers and farmers who rely on exports as a major source o f revenues.

A t the

same time, and perhaps in a more noticeable fashion, industries most sensitive to import
competition have suffered the strains o f increased pressure from foreign producers whose
goods have become less expensive in terms o f dollars.

Some textile, apparel, and

footwear plants have been forced to furlough workers, reduce hours, or even shut down
permanently.
pressures.

Even some capital-intensive industries have not been immune to import

Moreover, the efforts o f many manufacturers to meet foreign competition by

improving productivity often entail reduced need for labor inputs.

For farmers the e ffe c t has been less noticeable in terms o f jobs than in financial
affairs.

Worldwide surpluses o f many farm commodities have depressed agricultural

commodity prices and, concomitantly, farm revenues.

Thus, farmers have found it

increasingly difficu lt to service, let alone retire, the heavy debt burden they built up
during a period several years ago when expanding markets and the expectation o f higher
land values spurred farmers to borrow heavily. When you add to these factors the dollar's
negative e ffe c ts on foreign demand for U.S. crops, it is easy to see why some farmers as




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w ell as the financial institutions that service them are considered to be on the verge o f
crisis.

It is true that through the end o f September the dollar declined about 20 percent
from its February peak.

However, the beneficial e ffects o f this decline will take some

time to be fe lt in trading patterns for industrial and agricultural goods.

Many trading

relationships are established by contract and remain in e ffe c t until the expiration date
regardless o f exchange rate fluctuations.

Other buyers o f imported goods may actually

rush sales into the present because they anticipate prices will rise in the future.

For

these and other reasons, it seems unlikely that improvements in the exchange value o f
the dollar will have an appreciable e ffe c t for six months to a year or more.

Certain

farmers and manufacturers feel that they cannot hold on that long and are actively
seeking either protectionist legislation, public financial support, or both.

The

current

flare-up

we are

legislators is deeply troubling to me.

seeing in protectionist sentiment among our
I fully sympathize with the desire o f our elected

officials to come to the aid o f their constituents.

However, the history o f well-

intentioned protectionist measures is marked by a consistent pattern o f reprisals from
abroad, reduced trade flows, and sometimes even recessions.

If Congress enacts either

some form of tariffs or the putatively more benign measure o f subsidies, I fe e l certain
that other countries w ill retaliate, and the network o f anti-trade measures that is likely
to ensue could well take years to undo.

Even in the short run such measures could have serious consequences.

For

example, some o f the industries most likely to be aided by protectionism are the same
industries on which our less developed trading partners most heavily rely to boost their
own exports and thereby to service their debts to American financial institutions.




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Although the LDC debt situation is not as ominous as it once was, dislocations to some o f
these fragile foreign economies would probably have ripple effects, some would say tidal
wave effects, on certain financial institutions and perhaps subsequently on the safety and
soundness o f our financial system in general.

When you add to this potential problem

others already troubling the financial services industry, such as the pressures on farm
banks and even Government-sponsored farm credit agencies that I’ve already mentioned,
I think you will agree that there is due cause for concern about problems in the
international sector and how they impinge on the economy.

Economic Outlook

Notwithstanding the array o f problems I’ve just outlined, I do expect the economy
to sustain a growth rate o f around 3 percent for the foreseeable future, and as I noted
earlier, such a growth rate in a mature phase o f expansion such as the present is quite
respectable.

Nonetheless, given the sluggish pace o f the first half, the moderate

dimensions o f this acceleration in the second half probably spell full-year growth for
1985

of

modest

proportions.

Looking

ahead,

though,

if

we

can

maintain

the

improvements we’ve experienced in the third quarter, we are likely to enjoy a better
record o f expansion during 1986 than this year.

Aside from the rapid growth o f money and credit that has occurred for a number
o f months, one o f the main factors I see underlying this improved picture is the decline in
the value o f the dollar that has taken place since February.

By next year the lagged

effects o f our more favorable foreign exchange rate should begin to benefit many
factories and farms.

Once manufacturers and farmers increase sales abroad, their

capital spending plans are likely to pick up, thereby boosting orders for machinery,
equipment, and even new plants.




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I doubt that the improvement will be translated into dramatic progress toward
reducing unemployment even though we could see the proportion o f those unable to find
work drop below the 7 percent mark. Yet, I am not too troubled about a jobless rate that
lingers in the 7 percent range.

This remark does not reflect callousness on my part.

Rather, it is due to the fact that we already have such a large percentage o f our
population working.

As high as 7 percent sounds, it is probably not much above a

reasonable "fu ll employment" level, given the high labor force participation rate
currently prevailing.

In my view, the jobless rate w ill fall on its own over the longer

term as a result o f demographic changes.

Now that the baby-boom generation has

virtually been absorbed into the labor force, there will be few er new entrants seeking
their first jobs each year.

Thus, as long as economic growth continues at a reasonable

pace, there seem to be grounds for expecting a gradual decline in the unemployment
rate.

On the inflation front, though, this anticipated improvement in overall economic
performance has some negative implications since some o f the growth I foresee is
predicated on past and expected future declines in the value o f the dollar. As the dollar's
exchange rate falls, not only will the prices o f U.S. goods drop, but also the price we pay
for imports w ill rise.

While this development should help American producers regain

reduced market shares and promote job growth, the resulting stimulus to the economy
could create price pressures, particularly if we are already near the full-employment
level.

In addition, American consumers will have to pay higher prices for goods from

abroad.

What's more, there is always the danger that American producers will become

somewhat less price conscious once they are relieved o f some o f the pressure o f foreign
competition.

The net result could be a rise in prices from the current level o f around 4

percent. Nonetheless, other factors such as declines in the price o f oil, augur inflation o f
moderate proportions at worst in the year ahead.




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Summing up the near-term outlook, I believe we could experience a better year in
1986 than in 1985, with full-year growth in the 3 percent range. The unemployment rate
is unlikely to dip dramatically at this point in the expansion, but continuing respectable
gains in the number o f people employed appear quite probable. Finally, it seems possible
that inflation w ill accelerate somewhat as prices o f imports, on which we have come to
depend so heavily, rise in concert with declines in the foreign exchange value o f the
dollar.

Nevertheless, there is little reason to expect price increases to accelerate

sharply.

Imbalances and the Longer Term Outlook

Beyond the next year or so, I am concerned that the imbalances that have been
troubling the economy will adversely a ffe c t longer term developments, and, I fear, they
might do so in far more negative ways unless their underlying cause is corrected.
negative e ffects o f the federal budget d eficit mount over time.
to

feel

the

drag

of

an "overvalued”

dollar

on

The

We have already begun

employment

and output

in our

manufacturing and agricultural sectors, as I described a few minutes ago. Although we
should recoup many o f our losses as the dollar declines, some manufacturing concerns
that closed down may never reopen and the decline in market share that certain
industries have been experiencing as international comparative advantage shifts may
have taken place faster than it otherwise would have done.

Other potential problems also loom over us. The continuing high level o f interest
rates makes it more difficu lt for thrift institutions to correct portfolio imbalances
between assets and liabilities. A large portion o f S<5cL loan portfolios still consists o f low
interest rate mortgages, whereas thrifts must o ffer higher interest rates on their
deposits to compete with money market funds and MMDAs.

Until the decline in the

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difficulty selling abroad and retiring or reducing their debt burden.

Consequently, I am

afraid that many farm banks as well as other depositories w ill remain in a tenuous
condition until we can make a convincing expression o f our determination to reduce the
federal budget deficit.

The large federal budget d eficit also creates imbalances with respect to monetary
policy. As you well know, money and credit have expanded at a rapid pace for about the
past 11 months. This trend has certainly contributed to the decline in interest rates this
year and the associated revival in interest-sensitive industries such as housing and
autos. It may also have helped foster the fa ll in the value o f the dollar this year. While
monetary policy has thus helped ease the pressures o f increased demand for money and
credit by increasing supply, our elected representatives have done virtually nothing
either to reduce the demand for borrowed funds by cutting spending or to increase the
supply o f funds to support the current level o f federal spending by raising taxes. Thus,
fiscal and monetary policy, while both in one sense stimulative, are ’’out o f sync" given
the present situation and its particular problems.

In the longer term other e ffe c ts w ill come to have equal or even more serious
consequences.

It's not just that we're borrowing heavily as a nation.

We've done that

before in our history and not usually suffered problems other than perhaps some
redistribution o f income in favor o f those in upper income brackets and thus generally in
the best position to provide the savings needed to finance such borrowing. The troubling
feature o f our current level o f borrowing is that a major portion o f these funds has come
from abroad.

We appear to have become a debtor nation after half a century o f net

creditor status. Borrowing from abroad to finance growth is appropriate for a developing
country such as the United States was during the nineteenth century.

However, it is

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This situation is bound to constrain the development

potential for many less developed, third-world countries.

Furthermore, it transfers an

enormous responsibility to future generations to repay the debt and the ever-mounting
interest we are accumulating.

Eventually foreigners will become less willing to finance

our spending urge. Since this willingness has been motivated not only by the expectation
o f continuing high interest rates but also by certain external dynamics pertaining to the
preference for dollars -- dynamics that we neither understand fully nor control, it could
shift again, perhaps suddenly.

Ultimately, we shall have to find ways not only to reduce

spending but also to save more just to pay o ff the debt we have already built up. Is it
fair to force our children and grandchildren to save in order to pay for the high level o f
consumption that we have been enjoying?

Policy Implications
What should we be doing as a nation?

Perhaps I should say, what MUST we be

doing? First and foremost, we need to take steps to bring federal spending back into line
with federal revenues.

The reduction o f the d eficit that results must be o f sufficient

magnitude to assure financial markets that we are serious about coming to grips with this
problem.

Once this medicine has been prescribed, pressure on interest rates should ease

and, with that cutback in future demand for credit, the foreign exchange value o f the
dollar should continue to decline without the added stimulus o f rampant money supply
growth.

This measure in turn should speed up the scenario I have already predicted

whereby manufacturers and farmers find it easier to export and less difficult to compete
against imports.
and sales.

Employment advances could accelerate along with orders, production,

In addition, this change in policy and its effects should mitigate the difficult

situation in which many financial institutions now find themselves. O f course, there will
be adjustments o f a less sanguine nature, such as the potential for higher prices, but in
the long run I fe e l gains w ill far outweigh any transitional problems.




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lt is essential that we begin to take this medicine as soon as possible so that the
burden we transfer to future generations and the negative effects on longer term growth
are kept as small as possible.

As I've mentioned, the interest alone on the debt we've

already accumulated is appreciable and will have to be paid back to our foreign lenders
eventually, either by us or by following generations.

Another policy prescription that we should begin to think about concerns the very
low savings rate o f the United States.

Insofar as public policies discourage savings, we

should be considering alternatives that would foster the expansion o f our domestic pool
o f savings.

We must do so in order to fund the ongoing capital investment that w ill be

increasingly necessary to compete in a global marketplace. In addition, it is in our own
interest to return as quickly as possible to the status o f a creditor nation so that we can
help other economies develop to the point at which they can become expanding markets
for American products.

However, whatever reforms we adopt to increase our propensity

as a nation to save should, in my view, come to the top o f our policy agenda only after
we have addressed the pressing issue o f the budget deficit.

Otherwise, we might find

well-meaning reforms designed to alter Americans' long-established savings habits are
being introduced so abruptly that we inadvertently send the economy into a temporary
tailspin.

Conclusion
In conclusion, I see the nation's economic outlook as basically sound.

We are

closer to the maximum non-inflationary expansion rate we can expect to sustain over
time.

From

my perspective,

the

intermittent performance

of

the economy we

experienced earlier this year is attributable primarily to the large federal budget deficit
and the imbalances it has introduced into the economy.

We can overcome these

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w ill require reducing the d eficit as quickly as possible and then devising policy measures
designed to alter the savings customs o f Americans.
problems in the past and resolved them.

We have faced equally difficult

I am optimistic that we have the will as a

people to take the necessary steps to rise to today’s economic challenges.