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OVERVIEW OF THE FINANCIAL MARKETS CONFERENCE
Remarks by Robert P. Forrestal
President and Chief Executive Officer
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
Financial Markets Conference
Coral Gables, Florida
March 2,1995

I am very pleased to welcome each of you to this important conference on financial
markets, and I am optimistic that we shall all gain some new insights into developments
surrounding derivatives and other important financial market issues. This evening, I would like
to talk about three items related to risk-education, technology, and cooperation—that I think bear
upon the purpose of this conference.

Education and Risk Management
First, let me turn to education. A knowledge of how to measure and manage risk is
essential for all those who deal with financial markets, but, in the case of those who deal in the
newest, most complex instruments and transactions, such knowledge must be broad and deep.
Those investment and commercial firms that are large enough to have their own experts on board
can look to their knowledge in determining risk factors. But those firms not big enough to hire
in-house experts cannot afford to be without expert help. First, they must decide how they want
to manage their risk and then decide whether derivatives and other novel applications will be part
of the plan. If they decide to proceed, then such firms must be willing to hire third-party
expertise that understands the risks on both the buy side and the sell side. Fortunately, this kind
of educated expertise is increasingly available, from consulting firms and the academic world.




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With that in mind, I would like to take a few moments to acknowledge that there are
some people here from the so-called buy side of the markets. Your presence implies a recognition
of the need to educate yourselves about the risks involved in certain instruments and transactions.
Ours is a world in which it is almost too easy for sellers to come up with new and seemingly
risk-free instruments. For instance, a finance professor I know told me it took him about three
minutes to devise an example for his class of a new instrument that would ensure investors of
a rate of return twice that of the LIBOR rate~as long as U.S. interest rates were constant,
decreasing, or even going up slightly. He pointed out that if he were a salesperson, it would have
been easy for him to come up with some persuasive arguments as to why someone should buy
his new instrument.

I can describe the situation even more bluntly by paraphrasing a Wall Street salesperson
who was quoted in the Wall Street Journal: "I don't plan to make money selling these instruments
to smart people," he said. "I plan on making my money selling them to dumb people." My point
is that it is critical to be well-versed in the risks associated with any instrument someone tries
to sell. The principle of caveat emptor has never been more useful, and the buyer must have
expertise on hand to purchase wisely. For many, that means pursuing objective information
outside of the buyer-seller relationship. More broadly, however, even for those who do have
in-house expertise, coming to a conference such as this is an excellent way to become more
educated about risk.




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On this first day of our Financial Markets conference, we have already had an interesting
talk featuring one central banker's struggle to define systemic risk and four excellent papers on
topics such as the pricing of default risk in derivatives. For those of you who were not here for
these academic presentations, you will find copies of the papers in your conference folders. Even
if you are not personally interested in the technical details, members of your staff may find them
useful.

From a conceptual perspective, these papers represent the kind of innovative and
sophisticated research that is going on today in regard to financial instruments, transactions, and
markets. As such, they are a kind of point to the counterpoint of the next two days, in which
panels of experts will discuss financial market issues from a more practical perspective. Four
important topics will be covered tomorrow and Saturday: the transmission of shocks in global
markets, regulation of derivatives (or perhaps I should say whether derivatives should be singled
out for special treatment), new and innovative instruments, and, finally, systemic risk. Our focus
here will be specifically on how derivatives and financial markets contribute to systemic risk.
This topic is one on which I would like to dwell this evening by focusing on the other two issues
I mentioned at the beginning of my remarks: technology and cooperation.

Technology and Systemic Risk
The context for any discussion of systemic risk in today’s financial markets must begin
with an appreciation of their dynamism and the technology that feeds that dynamism. As each
of you knows, we are fortunate to live in an era of tremendous financial innovation and in a




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country where this innovation finds fertile soil in which to take root. The breadth and depth of
our financial markets is unparalleled in the world, and the freedom with which they operate
contributes critically to their success in accommodating an ever-changing array of instruments
and transactions. Moreover, while it has become almost a clichd to talk about the "global
interconnection of markets," this phrase is a valid description of what has actually happened in
financial markets.

In the last few years, we have witnessed what appears to many in business to be an
acceleration in the pace of change in financial markets. It seems like only a few years ago that
swaps offered a new way for many businesses to manage risk, whether in the area of foreign
exchange or traditional domestic finance. But the permutations and combinations from the plainvanilla swap have been most amazing. And even the names of today's new instruments—such as
look-back options, inverse floaters, and circus swaps-is truly mind-boggling.

At the same time that we stand in veritable awe of recent technological changes and their
impact, another important development that must be acknowledged is our increased awareness
of the risks associated with certain market practices. Widely publicized losses in derivatives by
both public and private sector organizations have raised new concerns about the public policy
implications of what is going on in our financial markets. Added to this concern are the same
factors that I just praised-technology and the global interconnection of financial markets.
Although new trading technology in and of itself does not necessarily add more risk to the
system, the ramifications of an adverse development simply can move faster now. In other




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words, 99.999 percent—and I could go on--of the time, everything works well, and technology
helps to make possible incredibly swift and sophisticated financial transactions. But there is still
that extremely small percent of the time when things do not work well, and technology will be
just as fast to transmit the adverse development. Thus, systemic risk has taken on new
proportions because of the very developments that make today's financial markets so efficient.

A Spirit of Cooperation
This observation leads me to my third point, namely, what should we do about systemic
risk? I will be the first to admit that we in the public policy arena who are most concerned with
it have not yet modeled or even defined systemic risk as well as we could. This situation is
analogous to monetary policy and the macroeconomic models we use. I hope this is not a news
flash to anyone sitting here, but the Fed does not have perfect models to describe the economy.
And yet, that does not mean that we can wait to act until we devise the perfect model. Since the
Fed and other regulators must work in the real world, rather than in the realm of pure theory,
we must try to solve problems in the absence of perfect information.

As I see it, the real issue with systemic risk is not, how do we model it, but rather, what
do we do about it? We already know it exists, because we have seen it in action with foreign
exchange instruments that are much simpler than today's instruments. For example, the failure
of the Herstatt Bank in the 1970s, which led directly to the establishment of the Basle Committee
in Switzerland, was based on foreign-exchange trading.




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Let us assume—and not naively I hope-that the large investment banks and commercial
banks that engage in derivatives trading have fairly sophisticated models to hedge their individual
situations to prevent a deal from going sour. The problem for regulators, however, goes beyond
whether one deal falls through. Derivatives may help individual firms to manage risk, but, in the
aggregate, there is usually still some risk. Put another way: no matter how well models work in
the micro-environment, they may not aggregate well to determine the risk at the macro-level-and
this risk at the macro- or system level is the essential problem for regulators. To borrow a
nautical analogy, not everyone can climb into the lifeboat at the same time.

Additionally, developments that lead to systemic risk often cannot be forecast. In either
case, the central bank and others concerned with public policy are drawn into the situation.
Thus, we must prepare to deal with a situation that goes beyond existing theories and models.
To avoid dealing with such an eventuality in an ad hoc manner, I believe we need to move
forward in a spirit of cooperation with the private sector. For example, much of the data that
can be used to understand the possibility of systemic risk must come from practitioners who deal
in derivatives. Using this data, perhaps we can work cooperatively to develop an understanding
of where the pressure points lie for potential problems-albeit not all-encompassing, but
something that would at least help us to understand the probable fall-out in particular sectors.

To foster the spirit of cooperation that I am describing requires a shift in attitude. We
need to put aside the still widespread view that, because derivatives used in isolation are of low
risk, individuals can be unconcerned about the possibility that a new instrument may contribute




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to systemic risk. In the end, such a moderation of viewpoints will also help to protect the public
from having to rescue the markets in the event of a catastrophe, just as Americans were called
upon to finance the clean-up of the savings-and-loan system following its debacle.

Knowing in advance that we will never find the Holy Grail of models, I must remind you
of the point with which I began, to wit, education. Regulators look to each of you who works
with these instruments to measure your own risk. I can promise that we will continue to try to
be prepared for large problems in the markets. But, at the heart of the matter, we are all here
to remind each other of our different roles and what we should do to keep the whole financial
system healthy. I am impressed with the level of knowledge we have on hand, and I believe one
manifestation of the spirit of cooperation I referred to is the fact that we are all gathered here
at this conference. Let us hope that we can advance the cause of finding a framework for dealing
with the practical effects of systemic risk.

Now, let me close by saying that I look forward to the exchange of ideas and knowledge
during the next two days. Such an interchange will certainly help each of us do a better job of
ensuring that our financial markets continue to operate as the free-est and best-regulated in the
world.