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THE NATIONAL ECONOMIC OUTLOOK AND CURRENT ISSUES IN BANKING
Remarks by Robert P. Forrestal, President
Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta
to the Board o f Directors o f the John H. Harland Company
O ctober 23,1987

Good morning! I am pleased and honored to have this opportunity to meet with you
directors of the Harland Company.

When Bill Robinson extended the invitation to be

with you this morning, he asked that I discuss the outlook for stability of the financial
community along with several specific Fed-related issues—inflation, the value of the
dollar, the money supply, and developments in the Fed's philosophy.

Events of recent

days have certainly made your interest in financial system stability and the Fed's
philosophy a timely one.

Let me say at the outset that the prospects for continued

health in the financial community are excellent. The past week's events have tested the
depth and resiliency of the markets, and they have not been found wanting. Amidst the
unwelcome turbulence we were again reminded of the Fed's steady commitment to
ensure that the financial system has sufficient liquidity, an example of the sturdy
structures that remain in place to undergird the soundness of today's financial system. In
this respect and others, the Fed's philosophy clearly has not changed.

To put current

events and Bill's original concerns into perspective, I feel the best approach is for me to
discuss first what is a generally positive economic outlook and then to proceed to a brief
overview of some issues that have the potential to a ffect the health and stability o f the
financial community.

The National Econom ic Outlook
As you know, there are three basic measures of performance commonly used to
gauge

how

the

nation

is

unemployment, and inflation.




doing,

economically

speaking—gross

national

product,

I look for real GNP to expand once again this year at a

-2rate of about 3 percent, and to come in a bit under that in 1988.

Unemployment has

fallen from the 7 percent level, where it remained lodged most o f last year, to 5.9
percent in September.

I am hopeful that it will remain in that range, which is a seven-

year low and close to what I consider the "natural rate" o f joblessness.

Inflation,

however, should accelerate from last year’s very low pace, as measured by the consumer
price index, to as much as 5 percent in 1987 before probably dropping back a little in
1988.

The higher prices in this forecast are in large part due to international factors.

These include not only the lifting of oil prices from very low levels but also the rise in
other import prices, which as of mid-year were up 9 percent.

However, I now expect

inflation to moderate somewhat in late 1987 from earlier in the year because oil prices
seem to have plateaued and food prices have been easing at the wholesale level.

Still, the Fed did act last month to reduce the potential for inflation to worsen, and
we raised our discount rate from 5 1/2 to 6 percent. At the same time, market rates o f
interest ratcheted up far more, although much of this has been reversed in recent days.
Concern about the failure o f our trade deficit to fall in nominal terms and our resulting
dependence on foreign financing has weighed heavily on market sentiment.

These are

major issues of concern, though I believe we will make some progress over time in
reducing our reliance on borrowing from

abroad.

In fact, developments in the

international sector are critical to the outlook for GNP growth.

I look for improvement in the foreign trade situation to be the engine behind our
moderate rate o f expansion, with some support from consumption. The deficit is already
improving in real terms, though it takes longer to see it narrow in current dollars. The
other major components of GNP—investment and government demand~are not likely to
add to overall growth.

I expect very modest growth in consumption over the remainder

o f this year and some strengthening during the next.




We have seen an improvement in

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the manufacturing sector, and industrial production is now 4.5 percent higher than it was
last year at this time. The related growth in salaries in this higher wage sector should
help bolster consumer spending. But this large component o f GNP — about two-thirds - ­
is not likely to be nearly as strong as in recent years—nor should we expect it to be. The
low savings rate and high debt-to-incom e ratios that resulted from very high consumer
spending growth will dampen these expenditures as we go forward.

Another factor retarding growth in the consumer component of GNP reflects the
beginning of a long-term trend we at the Fed have been predicting for some time,
namely, smaller annual increases in per capita consumption.

This is largely the

inevitable ’’morning after” following the spending binge that we as a nation have been
on—both publicly and privately—almost since the start o f this decade.

Now we must

embark on what will be a rather long period o f paying back some o f the debt to the rest
o f the world that we amassed to finance that binge. And, of course, we have to pay back
not just the huge principal but also the ever increasing burden of debt service. The only
way we can accomplish this is by consuming less o f our own production and exporting
more.

International developments will also have a bearing on investment, a small but
important part o f GNP.

The fact that I look for exports to increase means that

investment in equipment, factories, and warehouses should pick up. The positive effects
of this capital spending will probably be mostly offset, however, by declining investment
in offices, apartments, condominiums, and retail space.

By treating some aspects of

investment less favorably, changes in the tax code have exacerbated the short-run
effects of overbuilding that occurred over the past several years.

In time this should

lead to a more efficient allocation o f capital as the revised tax code encourages
investment dollars to be distributed more in accordance with the dynamics o f supply and




-4demand. In the near term, though, we may see some uncomfortable adjustments develop
until excess space is absorbed. The market for single-family housing is also likely to be
weak. Mortgage rates have been rising significantly, and both housing starts and permits
are down from earlier levels. For these reasons, investment seems to be at a stalemate,
neither pushing nor retarding GNP growth. As for government purchases, budget deficits
are, thankfully, on a downward slope, but this, of course, means much less fiscal stimulus
than in the past.

This leaves us with net exports as an engine for the expansion. An improvement in
the U.S. international sector is expected for two reasons. The first is the decline in the
value of the dollar in foreign exchange markets.

According to the Atlanta Fed Dollar

index, the dollar has fallen 2*f percent against the currencies o f most o f our major
trading partners since its peak in February of 1985.
against

the

currencies

of

Canada,

our

major

It has not fallen nearly as much
trading

partner,

and the

newly

industrializing countries o f the Pacific rim, however. From February of 1985 to the end
of this September, for example, the dollar was o ff only about 7 percent vis-a-vis the
Canadian dollar and the currencies of countries like Taiwan, Korea, Hong Kong,
Singapore, and Australia. I would not want to speculate on what will happen to exchange
rates in the future—another of your interests.

I can say, though, that the currency

realignment we've already had is starting to have a positive e ffe ct on our economy. In
fact, exports began picking up in real terms in the last three months of 1986 while
imports flattened.

Real net exports have now improved for three consecutive quarters

for the first time since 1980.

This seems to be passing through to our manufacturing

sector, which had been so adversely affected by the dollar's earlier appreciation.

The second reason to expect a turnaround in the trade sector is related to
something that we are all concerned about, namely, that we cannot keep increasing our




-oborrowing from abroad indefinitely. For some time now we have been spending more on
consumption, investment, and government than we actually produce domestically. The
substantial expansion of the federal budget deficit has contributed to this situation. To
meet our financing needs, we have been borrowing from abroad. Of course, this cannot
go on forever. Our creditors may become less willing to lend, and, just as any borrower
eventually learns, debt service inevitably rises along with the debt and becomes a
burden. So the time has come to start repaying. While GNP or national output will grow
at about the same rate in 1987 as it did last year, more o f that increase in output will be
exported and less o f it will be available for domestic use.

Turning from GNP to prices, the inflation picture will be dominated by oil prices
and shifts in international trade.

Prices o f petroleum and other commodities are still

well below their levels of a year ago. Without the kind o f help from declining energy and
commodity prices we enjoyed last year, however, the rate of price increase is likely to
return to its pre-1986 pattern, though not to the unacceptably high levels we saw earlier
in the decade.

Meanwhile, rising import prices seem likely to send us to a higher rate

than in 1985, when the Consumer Price Index rose 3.8 percent. Our September discount
rate hike demonstrated our resolve to keep prices under control.

While Pm on the subject o f apparent changes in Fed policy, I might as well respond
to another of your interests, namely, the money supply.

As you know, we measure the

money supply in terms of the monetary aggregates~M l, 2, and 3.

Ml is the measure

containing the most liquid forms of money—cash, demand deposits, and travelers
checks.

Until February of this year, the Fed had set ranges for its growth to help

determine policy.

We stopped primarily because of the behavior o f M l, which began to

grow at an unprecedented pace due to the near equality of rates paid by interest-bearing
checking accounts like NOW accounts and time deposits, which are included in M2.




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People had less incentive to move excess money into M2 than they had when savings
accounts paid higher interest.

As a result, Ml swelled beyond its targets in 1985 and

1986. Thus, judgment about the appropriate growth of the aggregates has become both
more difficult and more dependent on prevailing economic and market circumstances.
M2 is currently running below and M3 around the bottom of their 5 1/2 to 8 1/2 percent
monitoring ranges, and I feel that, depending on evidence with respect to emerging
trends in other areas of economic activity, actual growth around the lower ends o f those
ranges may well remain appropriate. As in the case of the discount rate hike, I don't see
the decision not to target Ml as a change in policy. Rather, this case reflects a change
in the effectiveness of one of the gauges on which we had relied for setting policy.

The loss of that gauge—and it may be permanent given the changes taking place in
the financial services industry~is unfortunate. Still, we do have other guides to policy
decisions. One o f these is the likely future course of the economy and prices. As I have
said, my view of the economic trends remains one of cautious optimism. I am confident
that increased exports and substitution of domestic for some imported goods along with
the other factors I've discussed will sustain the expansion for at least another year. We
should

be

able

to

enjoy

this sustained

growth

without

unacceptable

rates

of

unemployment or inflation.

Stability o f the Financial Services Industry
My outlook for continued expansion should be good news in general for the banking
industry, whose health, as you know, tends to wax and wane with the economy.
Nonetheless, we are all aware o f disturbing signs of problems.

A recent study at the

Atlanta Fed shows bank profitability declined further in 1986, particularly among the
smallest institutions.
large numbers.




This would suggest that bank failures will probably continue in

Last year, 138 banks failed—the highest in any single year since the

-7Depression, and with 142 banks closed by the end of September it is clear that the pace
of closings this year has not abated.
having systemic effects.

Fortunately, the failures we are seeing are not

Many are due to the weaknesses concentrated in certain

sectors, such as energy or farming, and in particular regions. There are, however, other
issues with far-reaching implications such as deposit insurance, off-balance sheet
activities, interstate banking, and product deregulation. In a sense these issues are all
subsumed by the larger question of balance between regulation and deregulation. In some
areas like interstate banking, we haven't gone far enough, yet in others we seem to need
new or tighter restrictions. In the time remaining, therefore, I'd like to discuss some o f
the major issues involving the banking industry.

Let me start with what I believe is one o f the easier issues to resolve by simply
completing the movement toward deregulation that was begun a few years ago.

That

issue is—geographical barriers. We've com e a long way toward geographical deregulation
of the financial services industry and, in so doing, giving greater vent to the creative
forces of market competition.

Approximately 23 states have authorized, or will

authorize within the next 18 months, nationwide interstate banking, and only seven states
have not shown any significant movement toward either regional or nationwide interstate
banking.

Despite the number o f states that have at least regional banking provisions,

however, a hodgepodge o f geographic limitations make the situation more difficult.

In

addition, most interstate laws now on the books prohibit de novo entry. Thus we have not
yet achieved effective interstate banking, and customers are still deprived of the
competitive choices in prices and services such geographical deregulation would bring. I
do not deny that the experiment with regional interstate banking-one in which
southeastern banks joined early on—has been a worthwhile move in the direction of
breaking down barriers that are no longer viable, but we must remember that it is just
the first step in a longer journey. It is time to adopt a more systematic approach at the




-8national level toward what I feel is the inevitable and beneficial adoption of full
nationwide interstate banking, especially in view o f the veritable globalization o f
markets~not just in the ’’real" economy as I noted in my remarks on the outlook but even
moreso in financial markets.

While the issue o f interstate banking is a relatively simple one to solve, other issues
on the road to deregulation are far less tractable. We have heard much lately about the
need to expand the powers allowed to banks so that they can compete effectively with
unregulated intermediaries which offer banking-type services.
desirable goal, but in many respects it is theoretical.

I agree that this is a

We cannot move quickly from a

system that has been regulated and protected in such diverse ways to one that is totally
unconstrained. In most other sectors o f the economy, we could easily say that the strong
would survive and the weak fail and so be it, but we cannot really do this in banking. The
reason we cannot is that we are committed to insuring smaller deposits, and we have
often

acted

stockholders.

as if

we

are essentially insuring all creditors o f banks, save the

We must directly deal with the question o f what we will and will not

insure—the boundaries of the safety net—before we should permit banks to enter new
areas o f business. The cost of failures to the FDIC as well as to FSLIC ought to teach us
this lesson.

Deposit insurance is thus the most pressing of all the issues we face.

Until the

recent banking act was passed, the chief concern in this area had been the weakness of
the FSLIC.

Passage o f the act was a much needed measure.

Unfortunately, the $10.8

billion provided to bail out the fund appears far from adequate and thus makes it likely
that Congress will eventually turn to the taxpayers and bankers as sources for further
assistance, perhaps by proposing a merger of the FSLIC and FDIC. However, aside from
this eventuality, which I know is troubling to bankers and even to most S&Ls, deposit




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insurance is in need o f more general reform to correct the problem economists call moral
hazard.

By insuring depositors, something to which we as a nation have become deeply

committed, we inadvertently create incentives to bank managers to undertake excessive
risks, especially when their institutions are already facing declining earnings figures. To
deal with this problem, some people have proposed tying deposit premiums to risk.
Although there is merit to this viewpoint, I feel we could, instead, let the markets do
part of the work, perhaps by impelling uninsured depositors and holders o f subordinated
debt to exert more surveillance and discipline on institutions they patronize.

FDIC

proposals for limited payout of uninsured deposits at failed banks and for greater
disclosure of banks’ financial condition embody this approach.

Of course, if market

discipline is to prove effectiv e, we also have to avoid bailing out shareholders and all
creditors at failed institutions as has been done in the past.

An additional and, in my

view, preferable alternative would be risk-based capital requirements, an area where we
have proposed some change. These could provide a cushion for the insurance funds and
help buffer the industry from systemic risk.

Such a reform of capital requirements could also address the problem of o ffbalance sheet items. Because they understate the amount of risk relative to capital, the
proliferation o f products like standby letters of credit, interest rate swaps, and so forth
could lead to insolvency, not only o f institutions immediately involved but o f their
insuring agencies and depositors as welL Adequate capital to back up off-balance-sheet
items would limit inappropriate risk taking.

To be effective, however, international

coordination is needed since banks around the world are placing more emphasis on these
products as sources of income.

The coordination between American and British

regulators that led to the currently proposed guidelines on off-balance sheet items has
been a welcome initiative. I would hope to see such efforts expanded to encompass other
advanced economies.




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I do not pretend to know all the answers to these complex issues. I am convinced,
however, of the urgency of the situation. The same international competitive forces that
are playing an ever increasing role in the U.S. and southeastern economy, whiek-I
outlined at the start of my remarks today, will push many of these issues to some kind of
resolution if we fail to act. The danger is that that resolution may not be the one we
would have chosen. With global capital markets, for instance, institutions will simply go
"offshore” to offer services prohibited to them domestically, thus evading regulations
altogether and making it even harder for regulation to ensure its most basic end—the
safety and soundness of the financial system.

As for the general direction in which policy makers should be moving, I’ m afraid we
have to beware of sweeping changes that would be categorized under a single rubric like
"deregulation.”

The current problems faced by many institutions and ew feerrttS

industries like S&Ls indicate that we proceed with caution.

The real challenge to

legislators and regulators in this by no means optimal environment in which we find
ourselves will be to avoid falling into the traps of the past, such as waiting until problems
reach crisis proportions so that we really have no options, no choices.

We must also

beware of focusing too much on the present and the past as we try to help institutions
make a transition through the short term into more flexible organizations that are more
viable for the long run.

Conclusion

I began my remarks by focusing on the nation’s economy. The continued moderate
growth I foresee for business activity should help the banking industry work through some
of its current problems. However, over the longer term the competitive pressures faced
by the industry require that lasting solutions be found for the problems I’ve outlined




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These must be solutions that are not just temporary stopgaps that actually

undermine the competitiveness of institutions we’re trying to help but rather measures
that help move us toward that long run, theoretical goal of more competitive financial
markets.