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FINANCIAL SERVICES AND DEFENSE:
TWO INDUSTRIES IN TRANSITION
Remarks by Robert P. Forrestal, President
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
To the U.S. Army Materiel Command
and the American Defense Preparedness Association
April 25, 1991
Good afternoon! I am pleased and honored to appear
before this joint meeting of the U.S. Army Materiel
Command

and

the

American

Defense

Preparedness

Association. These annual conferences in Atlanta have played
a key role in sustaining our h&ien’s defense capacity by
nurturing a synergy between the private and public sectors.
We have recently seen how well this public-private
partnership works, as the superior abilities and equipment of
U.S. forces brought swift victory in the Persian Gulf. It is
fortunate that such a strong relationship has been developed
because new challenges are on the horizon.

Indeed,

fundamental changes in foreign relations, combined with a




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pressing need to bring the huge federal budget deficit under
control, have already begun to precipitate a major transition
in the defense industry.

Similarly profound changes are

underway in the U.S. financial system.

The resulting

uncertainty has raised questions about financing prespeets,
especially for capital-intensive industries like defense.

This afternoon I would like to give you an overview of
the transition taking place in the financial services industry,
which in many ways is similar to that in the defense industry.
By highlighting the parallels I hope to give you a perspective
from which you can better gauge the likely effect on capital
formation generally and on your industry specifically.

Parallels Between the Financial Services and Defense




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Industries
The fundamental similarity between the long-term
transitions under way in the defense and financial services
industries arises from their intimate links to government and
the cost of those links to taxpayers. Both industries have
grown large through their special relationship with the public
sector.

Now, however, the size of current and potential

expenditures, along with more general concerns about the
federal government’s huge budget deficits, are forcing
policymakers to take a fresh look at commitments to both
industries.

The defense industry, of course, is directly

influenced by government procurement decisions, and
spending on defense has long been the largest single outlay in
the federal budget. Last year, however, the federal budget
accord established defense spending as one of three




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discretionary categories, each of which has an individual
spending limit. This approach implies that defense spending
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cannot grow at the expense of other programs, as it could
under previous deficit-reduction arrangements. Whether or
not the pool of funds dedicated to defense will eventually
shrink in real terms remams to be seen. Still, it appears that
domestic spending on defense could be significantly limited.

Banking has also received several types of support from
the public sector over the past 50 years, though these have
been more indirect than those in defense. They have included
interest-rate regulations, protection from competition, and
deposit insurance.

The first two types of support are no

longer as important as they once were.

Interest-rate

regulations on all but commercial demand deposits were




eliminated in 1980, and competition has increased through
the expansion of bank-like services outside the confines of
banking regulation.

Money market funds have attracted

many depositors who once relied on banks.

Meanwhile,

financing through subsidiaries of manufacturing firms and
direct issues of commercial paper for larger businesses have
been able to make considerable inroads into a traditional and
important niche for bank lending. Thus, banks no longer
enjoy a protected market for their services. Nevertheless, the
third support remains.

A substantial public subsidy

continues in the form of deposit insurance. Deposit insurance
provides a government guarantee for banks’ primary source
of funding—so-called "core deposits." This is a benefit no
other capital market intermediary receives.




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Implicit government subsidies for financial institutions
carried few visible costs to the public until the 1980s.
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However, the savings and loan debacle dramatized the serious
flaws in the deposit insurance system. Deposit insurance was
designed to protect the banking industry from the kind of
systemic runs--on weak and sound banks alike—that once
crippled the nation’s business activity. It has performed this
function well, but in so doing it also reduces the incentive for
depositors to monitor the soundness of the banks where they
deposit their funds. Even larger depositors with amounts
that are technically uninsured as well as other creditors have
relaxed their vigilance when they have believed that a bank
is "too big to fail."

Because they are shielded from true

market discipline by this explicit and implicit safety net,
financial institutions can take on added risk without paying




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depositors and other creditors a return that truly reflects that
added risk.

The inducement to greater risk-taking that the deposit
insurance safety net brings does not greatly affect well
capitalized institutions—they have too much to lose. However,
it is especially strong for those institutions on the edge of
failure.

In these cases, the higher gains associated with

higher risk go to equity holders, while the losses are borne by
the insurance funds and, ultimately, by the taxpayers. The
banking industry has so far escaped major damage from this
perverse effect of deposit insurance, in no small measure
because banks are generally better capitalized than S&Ls.
However, the deposit insurance subsidy continues to attract
still more institutions to an already overbanked market. The




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resulting overcapacity dampens profitability for everyone
because there are simply not enough good loans to go around.
In this way the insurance system is inadvertently helping to
push more banking institutions toward difficulties.
Coming on the heels of the expensive S&L industry
collapse, weakening profits among commercial banks have
generated considerable concern among policymakers.

In

addition, the current need to recapitalize the Bank Insurance
Fund has kept the financial services industry in the eye of the
budgetary storm. It is likely that lawmakers will seek to
reduce the safety net of deposit insurance as a way of
minimizing future losses associated with these contingent
liabilities.
Thus, both bankers and defense contractors must
prepare themselves to be less dependent on the U.S.




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government. For both, greater diversification is probably a
pragmatic strategy.

Offering new products is a less

complicated prospect for the defense industry, where many
manufacturing and even consumer-oriented products can be
spun off from present products and operations. In contrast,
banks are forbidden by law from engaging in nonbanking
activities. I advocate an expansion of banks’ product lines
into areas like securities-underwriting.

In my opinion,

however, any new powers should come only after regulators
are assured that capital levels realistically reflect each
institution’s riskiness. Until this condition is met, it makes
no sense to allow banks to expand beyond their present range
of activities.

In addition to diversification, some consolidation needs




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to take place, in the banking industry.
subsidized

deposits,

regulations

that

In addition to
have

prohibited

interstate banking have left this country with far more
banking institutions than most other industrialized countries.
Moreover, because banking is regulated, the closing of a bank
has to be supervised. Thus, even when an institution is not
making enough to survive, it might have to stay in business
while exit procedures are under way.

This, too, adds to

overcapacity. Clearly, some compression of these numbers
is called for, but how to achieve this in an orderly fashion has
yet to be determined. The defense industry may not have a
problem of this dimension. Nonetheless, some consolidation
could be inevitable. The budget accord now in effect caps
defense spending in absolute dollar terms. Thus, any new
projects will have to be funded at the expense of existing




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ones, and this implies intensified competition among
contractors. Increased competition may eventually leave the
defense industry with fewer vendors holding larger shares of
the business.

Public Policy Role in Banking
In sum, defense and banking are undergoing transitions
driven by the likelihood that federal government support will
be more limited in the future. Both must look for ways to
diversify, and both could experience some consolidation. Of
course, in the case of banking the needed changes cannot
come through private-sector initiatives alone. Policymakers
need to enact some major reforms of the industry’s
regulatory framework.

In addition to the higher capital

requirements that I mentioned earlier in association with




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diversification, these reforms include reining in the deposit
insurance safety net, elimination of regulatory forbearance,
and further deregulation of geographic and product
restrictions.

As I see it, a basic ingredient in the approach to many
of the banking industry’s difficulties is to increase the stake
banks’ owners have in the prudent management of their
institutions.

One important measure along these lines is

capitalization. Regulators began phasing in higher capital
standards at the end of last year, and most U.S. institutions
have already made the adjustments required for the fully
implemented standards of 1992. However, I believe even
higher minimum levels of capital are called for, especially for




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institutions that want to take on additional activities as part
of their transition to more market-oriented activities.

Higher capital levels would minimize the need to draw
on the insurance fund by creating a larger cushion against
mistakes even the best bankers can make. Enhanced capital
also helps move us in the direction of greater market
discipline, as do similar measures like special classes of
subordinated debt that holders could liquidate if they became
dissatisfied with the riskiness of a bank. Banks would have
to be able to convince market participants that their
investments would be rewarded. Those that could not do this
would obviously not be able to expand.

In regard to deposit insurance, the U.S. Treasury




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Department has advocated risk-based premiums in its recent
banking reform proposal.

Such an approach would be a

useful complement to the higher capital levels I favor. The
Treasury’s proposal to limit the number of insured accounts
on an individual basis could also diminish the implicit subsidy
now provided by the deposit insurance system. Along with
reforms in deposit insurance and capital requirements,
supervisory oversight should be capable of forcing institutions
to take immediate steps,

including liquidation when

necessary, when their capital ratios fall below established
thresholds. Once established, the regimen should be applied
evenhandedly to all institutions regardless of size.

No

institution would be considered "too big to fail" because each
would have a capital cushion that would help it make good on
its obligations if it must be closed. Thus, the costs of the




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collapse and liquidation of the largest banks would be
minimized.

Once these reforms are in place, as I said

earlier, I advocate repeal of the Glass-Steagall legislation of
the 1930s that restricts commercial banks from engaging in
investment banking activities. However, we could and should
proceed with full geographic deregulation at once to move
beyond the inefficient, patchwork system of state-legislated
interstate banking that we now have.

Potential Effects of Industry Changes on Capital Formation
What effect would such efforts to reform the financial
services industry have on capital formation in our economy
and on the defense industry in particular? Some businesses
have expressed concern that higher capital requirements,
consolidation, and the like will make credit harder to come




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by. Indeed, there has been much talk of a "credit crunch"
recently, and it is often implied that financial institutions
have already reduced their lending in response to stricter
supervision. I acknowledge that bankers and regulators alike
are more wary—and properly so—of marginal credit
arrangements.

There were, I think, too many overly

optimistic and even slipshod loans made in the past decade,
and these have come back to haunt the industry. Thus, some
tightening of standards was clearly appropriate.

Still, I

believe that truly creditworthy customers with viable projects
are receiving and will continue to receive funding through
their banks.

Moreover, by bolstering the safety and

soundness of the banking industry, the improvement in
lending practices helps ensure that we can work through
industry restructuring from a more solid foundation. What




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businesses need to keep in mind is that a strengthened U.S.
banking system will encourage capital formation over the long
term--as will a lower budget deficit that absorbs less of this
nation’s relatively meager pool of savings.

Some might say that because many large firms now go
directly to the commercial paper market, the availability of
bank credit matters only to small- and medium-sized firms
and not to the large companies that typify the defense
industry. However, banks play an important role in financial
decisions among large firms as well. Recent research has
suggested that equity market participants tend to bid up stock
prices and thereby reward companies that use bank financing
for capital expenditures, debt retirement, and other purposes.
By contrast, private placements for the same activities tend




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to elicit no response from the market, while stock prices tend
to fall when the funding method is a new issue of stock. The
market’s perception may be that ongoing relationships with
customers gives banks an informational advantage in
evaluating the riskiness of loans.

Moreover, when corporate managers work through a
bank, where credit is usually extended on a short-term basis,
they are subjected to relatively frequent reviews. Apparently,
by accepting this discipline, companies give further evidence
of their prudence. Restructuring the industry in ways that
shore up its effectiveness would, I think, enhance banks’
ability to provide this implicit credit-rating service. If lower
capital formation costs are possible in this way, large
corporations, along with their small- to medium-sized




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counterparts, have a stake in seeing a successful resolution to
the current imbalances in the financial services industry.

Conclusion
In conclusion, the financial services and defense
industries have had one foot each in the public sector and one
in the private sector.

They are shifting their weights, I

believe, toward more market mechanisms. In the long run,
the health of the nation’s economy and of these two industries
themselves can benefit from their transitions. If reducing
their dependence on government helps lower the federal
budget deficit and potential taxpayer liabilities, we can turn
more investment toward the improved productivity many
U.S. industries need to become more competitive in a global
market.




Equally vital to our future is a financial system

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capable of providing the defense and other industries the
support they need at home and abroad. We must act—and
act quickly—to bring the banking industry and its regulatory
structure up to standards appropriate for the 1990s and the
twenty-first century.