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THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S PERSPECTIVE ON REGULATORY ISSUES
Remarks by Robert P. Forrestal
President and Chief Executive Officer
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
New Developments in Banking Conference
Co-sponsored by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, Alabama Bankers Association,
University of Alabama, and Auburn University
Birmingham, Alabama
April 4, 1995

It is a pleasure to be here this afternoon to talk about the regulatory perspective of the
Federal Reserve. The last time I addressed a banking group in Alabama, I was very concerned
about a proposal that would have sharply limited the role of the Federal Reserve in bank
supervision and regulation. That proposal did not win the necessary support, and today I am
happy that the Federal Reserve still has a strong regulatory role and thus an official perspective
on the subject. I plan to talk about three issues today: I will begin by speaking about credit
quality, then move on to interstate banking, and finally discuss potential reform of the GlassSteagall Act.

Credit Quality in Today's Banking Environment
Let me say first that, historically, banks in Alabama have had a very good record on
credit quality. Moreover, the economy has been in very good shape in the last year or so. But
please understand, as a regulator, the best time for me to warn you about maintaining your high
standards of credit quality is when economic conditions are relatively strong, as they are now.
The reason is that at such times bankers tend to become more amenable to making the kind of
loans that go bad when the economy weakens.
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let me be clear that even though responses to our Senior Loan Officer Opinion Survey indicate
some loosening of credit standards, I do not believe that credit standards generally have become
inadequate.

I would like to make another point about credit quality: While banks have become much
more adept at evaluating and grading risk, they still have to make progress on pricing that risk
appropriately for different customers. If banks continue to charge a single interest rate for credit,
then inevitably some borrowers who are not so risky will be overcharged while others who are
riskier will be undercharged. My point is that if banks do not price the risks appropriately, then
other financial concerns that are capable of doing so may pick off the best and most credit-worthy
clients.

I certainly recognize that, in general, Alabama bankers do not need to be lectured on the
topic of credit quality. At the same time, I am concerned that most of the banking industry does
not appreciate just how big a difference the regulatory changes embodied in the Financial Deposit
Insurance Corporation Improvement Act (FDICIA) will make the next time economic conditions
weaken. The fact is that regulators do not have the leeway to nurse stumbling banks back to
health since FDICIA became law. In the past, regulators had the ability to give banks every
chance to recover before actually closing them down.

Under FDICIA, all that has changed. If a bank suffers losses that substantially weaken
capital, then it will quickly come under regulatory and market pressure. The regulatory pressure




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is based on prompt corrective action that will generally end in closure when capital hits 2 percent
of assets. Furthermore, implementation of the least costly method of resolution, as mandated by
FDICIA, means that deposits over $100,000 are at substantial risk and are more likely to run
from weak banks. The new reality is that, if you get into any trouble, the ability of regulators
to give you a chance to work out of trouble has been sharply reduced. These new circumstances
make it even more important to maintain your historic record of controlling credit quality.

Before leaving this topic, let me hasten to point out that not all the results from FDICIA
are negative. The good news is that losses to the FDIC have been reduced, and that reduction
means lower premiums for banks in the long run.

The Effects of Interstate Banking
Now let me turn to interstate banking, a new law that may not seem to figure heavily in
Alabama banking, particularly since, up to now, the movement has mostly been for Alabama
banks to go out of state rather than to see national or super-regional banks coming into the state.
But it is interesting to note that matters may not go on forever this way. In fact, I would like to
point out that, based on deposits, some Alabama-based banks are among the Top Ten banks in
Florida. That alone should make some Alabama banks attractive to outsiders. So I think that,
although you have not yet been affected drastically by the passage last year of interstate banking
legislation, your time will probably come.

The eventual impact of interstate banking will depend in part on what each state chooses
to do about the new law. For example, the Georgia legislature recently decided to keep in place



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the stricture that banks wanting to expand intrastate must still acquire a bank to do so. This
legislation will somewhat reduce the benefits of interstate banking, especially for smaller banking
organizations that border on Georgia and for whom it may be too expensive to follow a natural
customer base into Georgia.

In the meanwhile, we are already beginning to see the effects of this legislation at the
Federal Reserve. Our market share of check clearing is down, and the changes brought on by
interstate banking undoubtedly have contributed to this decline in market share. In addition,
because the banking system has the potential now to become much better coordinated across the
nation, the 12 Federal Reserve Banks have been reworking the way we do business.
Traditionally, the Reserve Banks have operated in a decentralized fashion, a pattern that in my
opinion has contributed a great deal of innovation, flexibility, and responsiveness to customer
needs. As the System moves to greater coordination and centralization, we need to strive to
maintain these traditional attributes while providing a more consistent face to the growing number
of customers that will be operating in multiple districts.

Reform of the Glass-Steagall Act
I have saved the most current topic for last-the recent efforts to reform the financial
industry through repeal of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act, which created the separation between
commercial and investment banking. These initiatives by legislators and the Administration vary
significantly, but all would open up securities activity completely. A bill sponsored by
Representative Jim Leach, who chairs the House Banking Committee, and a proposal by the
Administration-not as yet set forth in a formal bill-would also permit bank holding companies



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to engage in other financial activities, including insurance to a certain degree. Senator Alfonse
D'Amato, who chairs the Senate Banking Committee, takes the further step of proposing that the
current separation of banking and commerce be eliminated completely. His bill would allow bank
holding companies to engage in financial, securities, and commercial activity. After years during
which Congressional leaders were either tepid about or downright hostile to the idea of
modernizing the laws that apply to the financial industry, these proposals come as a breath of
fresh air.

But too much fresh air can create a wind that knocks down everything in its path rather
than simply the barriers that prevent competition in our financial system. In this regard, I would
like to explain my views on repeal of Glass-Steagall. Fundamentally, I think banks should be able
to compete with other financial institutions. I do not believe, however, that banks and commercial
or industrial firms should be allowed to affiliate at this time. Although we cannot draw a sharp
dividing line between banking and commerce, I believe it is better to take these new powers one
step at a time, starting with expansion into the financial side. My central concern in not wanting
to pursue a broader version of reform is the possible effect it would have on expanding the safety
net that now exists for the banking industry. On the whole, however, I favor further product
deregulation in banking.

The main reason for favoring some new powers for banks is that modern global financial
markets have created a situation in which financial organizations must be able to operate over
a wider range of activities in order to compete. The rapid growth of computers and
telecommunications—most often subsumed under the broad rubric of "technology"—has also



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contributed to a new environment that creates more competition by lowering the cost of financial
services while also broadening their scope. Technology has enabled financial service companies
to develop new products that have challenged the institutional and market boundaries that seemed
so clearly demarcated until recent times. Technological innovation has also accelerated financial
globalization, leading to an increase in asset holdings, trading, and credit flows across national
borders. To take advantage of these increased flows, both securities firms and U.S. and foreign
banks have increased their international locations. In doing so, they have been allowed to meet
the competitive pressures of the foreign markets in which they operate by being granted powers-­
through subsidiaries—that are not permitted to them in the United States, such as global securities
underwriting and dealing. Incidentally, U.S. banking organizations have been among the world
leaders in such securities activities, even though their authority to distribute securities in the
United States is limited under current law.

Besides these technological changes on the global level, here in the United States the
states themselves have allowed expanded activities for state-chartered banks, much as states led
the way in interstate branching developments. According to the Conference of State Bank
Supervisors, in 1993 some 17 states had authorized banks to engage in securities underwriting
and dealing.

In the face of such technological change, financial globalization, and regulatory erosion,
it is high time to remove outdated restrictions on well-capitalized and well-managed banks and
to rationalize our system for delivering financial services. As matters stand now, the United
States is behind the rest of the industrial world. Nearly all the other G-10 nations have already




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adjusted their statutes to permit banking organizations to affiliate with securities firms and with
insurance and other financial entities. Of course, since 1987, U.S. banks have been able to get
into securities underwriting by creating so-called Section 20 subsidiaries. These entities may
handle a combination of eligible securities-ones not limited by Glass-Steagall—and ineligible
securities, such as corporate bonds, but only 10 percent of the total revenues of the subsidiary
may come from ineligible activities. This situation is an improvement over the pre-1987 situation
for the largest commercial banks that want to get into investment banking and already have
substantial financial market activities they can transfer to the Section 20 subsidiary. It does little,
however, to help regional banks that do not have a sufficient base of eligible securities business
revenue.

I also believe that banks are well situated to provide underwriting and other financial
services to investors, not least because they understand the institutional structure of the market
and are skilled at evaluating risk. Moreover, banks have built on their special ability to
accumulate credit information specific to the borrower, as opposed to other kinds of lenders and
investors that focus on more uniform or generalized information regarding stock or bond issues.
Since banks understand their customers on the credit side in a more individualized way, it would
make sense for banks to be able to handle the entire range of financing needs for a business. It
seems to me that a business would appreciate being able to get all the financial services it needs
from one organization, since it takes considerable time and effort to give an outsider an accurate
picture of its financial situation. If the repeal of Glass-Steagall were to allow companies to rely
on a single organization for loans, strategic advice, the underwriting of debt and equity securities,




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and other financial services, I believe firms would be more likely to expand their business with
commercial banks.

As proposed by Representative Leach, these new financial entities would operate under
the current holding company framework. I think this framework is important in order to limit the
direct risk of securities activities to banks and the safety net. The holding company structure
should also be the best way to keep from transferring to nonbank affiliates the subsidy implicit
in the federal safety net-deposit insurance, the discount window, and access to Fedwire. The
trick is to retain reasonable firewalls and other prudential limitations to protect banks from any
risk from wider financial activities. Doing so in a financial services company that incorporated
commercial firms would pose a serious challenge. Personally, I would like to gain some
experience with other financial products before bringing this step into the public policy debate.

As for supervision of banks with newly expanded powers, I believe that it is important
to have an umbrella supervisor, even though, as outlined in all the proposals, each unit would
be supervised by function. To be sure, there is a danger that if the Federal Reserve or some
other supervisor oversees the whole entity, then the market might come to believe that ultimately
the government is as responsible for the wider range of financial services activities as it is for
banks. Nonetheless, I know from experience that one regulatory authority should have an
overview of the risks in the organization as a whole to provide perspective on the risks to the
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In general, then, I believe that the time is past due to modernize our financial system by
widening the latitude for affiliation between banks and other financial service providers. The
Federal Reserve has put its support behind the bill proposed by Representative Leach because
it comes closest to giving new powers to banks while still maintaining the necessary degrees of
safety to prevent systemic risk.

Conclusion
In conclusion, I have spoken today about a number of regulatory issues that either have
changed or will change the way bankers now conduct their business. Many of these changes are
exciting because they open up new opportunities for business for banks. Some of these changes
are also difficult because they create more competition that calls for restructuring or new thinking
about how best to serve your customers. At the very least, we can be thankful that in a dynamic
financial world, Congress is finally talking about changing the ground rules that applied in more
static times. I wish every banker here luck in coping with further changes, and I assure you that
the Fed is addressing many similar challenges that arise from the changes in our financial system.