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THE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK FOR THE SOUTHEAST
AND CURRENT ISSUES IN BANKING
Remarks by Robert P. Forrestal, President
Federal Reserve Bank o f Atlanta
to the Guaranty Bank Advisory Board
November 17,1987

Good morning!

I am pleased and honored to have this opportunity to meet with

Guaranty Bank’s advisory board.

I'd like to use my time with you today to offer my

perspective on the economic and financial situation.

I hope by doing so Til be able to

bring some balance to the discussion o f this topic, which has been on everyone’s mind so
much lately.

Since the stock market's plunge on October 19, we've been obsessed, it

seems, with real and imagined ills in our financial markets and their potential effects on
the financial system and the economy in general. In that regard let me say at the outset
that the prospects for continued health in the financial community are excellent.

The

turbulence since mid-October has tested the depth and resiliency o f the markets, and
they have not been found wanting.

Amidst the gyrations of prices, we were again

reminded o f the Fed's steady commitment to ensure that the financial system has
sufficient liquidity. This reminds us of the sturdy structures that undergird the soundness
o f our economic institutions.

Nonetheless, the market's volatility has reminded us o f the the close, albeit
complex, nature o f economic and financial linkages.

Thus, while events in the market

have made our reading o f the economy's future course more difficult, my discussion o f
the financial services industry now more than ever requires a sense of what the economic
outlook holds to give it proper context.

Til preface my remarks on current banking

issues, then, with a review o f the national economic outlook. Ill also offer an assessment
of our region's prospects, which are, o f course, o f special significance to a community
bank like Guaranty.




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The National Econom ic Outlook
As you know, there are three basic measures o f performance commonly used to
gauge

how

the

nation

is

doing,

economically

speaking—gross national product,

unemployment, and inflation. I look for real GNP to expand this year at a rate o f about 3
percent and to come in a bit under that in 1988, say 2 to 2 and 1/2 percent.
Unemployment has fallen from the 7 percent level, where it remained lodged most o f last
year, to 6 percent in October. I am hopeful that it will remain in that range, which is a
seven-year low and close to what I consider the ’’natural rate’’ o f joblessness. Inflation,
as measured by the consumer price index, should be higher than last year’s very low
pace. Prices will probably be 5 percent higher in 1987 and rise by a little less than that
in 1988.

However, I now expect inflation to moderate somewhat in late 1987 from

earlier in the year because oil prices seem to have plateaued and food prices have been
easing at the wholesale level. The higher prices in this forecast are in large part due to
international factors. These include not only the lifting o f oil prices from very low levels
but also the rise in other import prices, which as o f the third quarter were up 7 percent.

Developments in the international sector are critical to the outlook for GNP
growth also.

Improvement in the foreign trade situation, which some support from

consumption, will be the engine behind our moderate rate o f expansion. The trade deficit
is already improving in real terms, though it takes longer to see it narrow in current
dollars.

The other major components of GNP—investment and government demand—are

not likely to add to overall growth.

I expect very modest growth in consumption over the remainder of this year and
some strengthening during the next. We have seen an improvement in the manufacturing
sector, and industrial production is now 4.5 percent higher than it was last year at this




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The related growth in salaries in this higher wage sector should help bolster

consumer spending. But this large component o f GNP--about two-thirds~is not likely to
be nearly as strong as in recent years--nor should we expect it to be.

First, the stock

market plunge has adversely affected consumers' wealth, and it remains to be seen
whether this loss will cut significantly into consumption.

More fundamentally, the low

savings rate and high debt-to-incom e ratios that resulted from very high consumer
spending growth over the past few years will dampen these expenditures as we go
forward.

Another factor retarding growth in the consumer component o f GNP reflects

the beginning o f a long-term trend we at the Fed have been predicting for some time,
namely, smaller annual increases in per-capita consumption.

This is largely the

inevitable "morning after" following the spending binge that we as a nation have been
on~both publicly and privately—almost since the start o f this decade.

Now we must

embark on what will be a rather long period o f paying back to the rest o f the world some
of the debt that we amassed to finance that binge. And, o f course, we have to pay back
not just the huge principal but also the ever increasing burden o f debt service. The only
way we can accomplish this is by consuming less of our own production and exporting
more.

International developments will also have a bearing on investment, a small but
important part o f GNP. First, recent stock market volatility around the globe has added
an element o f uncertainty that clouds the outlook for investment even though interest
rates have fallen in the past three weeks.

Second, by treating some aspects of

investment less favorably, changes in the tax code have exacerbated the short-run
effects of residential and o ffice overbuilding that occurred over the past several years.
In time this should lead to a more efficient allocation o f capital as the revised tax code
encourages investment dollars to be distributed more in accordance with the dynamics o f
supply and demand.




In the near term, though, there is considerable excess space to

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Even in an environment o f lower mortgage rates single-family housing is likely

to remain weak a while longer.

On the other hand, the fact that I look for exports to

increase, which I’ll discuss in just a moment, means that investment in equipment,
factories, and warehouses should sustain the reasonable health we saw evidenced in the
third quarter.

On balance, though, investment seems to be at a stalemate, neither

pushing nor retarding GNP growth.

As for government purchases, budget deficits are, thankfully, on a downward
slope.

I am hopeful that Congress and the Administration will make a permanent

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reduction in the full-employment budget deficit relative to GNP in their current
discussions. Progress on this front is vital to us as a nation.

This leaves us with net exports as an engine for the expansion. An improvement in
the U.S. international sector is expected for two reasons. The first is the decline in the
value o f the dollar in foreign exchange markets.

According to the Atlanta Fed Dollar

index, as o f late October the dollar had fallen 29 percent against the currencies of most
of our major trading partners since its peak in February of 1985. It has not fallen nearly
as much against the currencies o f Canada, our major trading partner, and the newly
industrializing countries of the Pacific rim, however. From February of 1985 to the end
of this October, for example, the dollar was o ff only about 6 percent vis-a-vis the
Canadian dollar and 7 percent against the currencies of countries like Taiwan, Korea,
Hong Kong, Singapore, and Australia. In this current, highly volatile environment I would
not want to speculate on what will happen to exchange rates in the future.

I can say,

though, that the currency realignment we’ve already had has been having a positive
e ffe ct on our economy. In fact, exports are up strongly. Real net exports had improved
for three consecutive quarters for the first time since 1980 before reversing course
slightly in the third quarter of this year, and that loss was due mainly to an increase in




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This ongoing increase in net exports, exclusive o f oil, seems to be passing

through to our manufacturing sector, which had been so adversely affected by the dollar’s
earlier appreciation.

The second reason to expect a turnaround in the trade sector is related to
something that we I mentioned in passing a moment ago, namely, that we cannot keep
increasing our borrowing from abroad indefinitely.

For some time now we have been

spending more on consumption, investment, and government than we actually produce
domestically. The substantial expansion o f the federal budget deficit has contributed to
this situation. To meet our financing needs, we have been borrowing from abroad.
course, this cannot go on forever.

Of

Our creditors may becom e less willing to lend, and,

just as any borrower eventually learns, debt service inevitably rises along with the debt
and becomes a burden. So the time has come to start repaying. While GNP or national
output will grow at a somewhat faster rate in 1987 than it did last year, over time more
o f that increase in output will be exported and less o f it will be available for domestic
use.

While the current market situation renders any forecast less certain, we can at

least hope that the stock market’s message has been received in time for those in power
to resolve their differences and embark our federal government on a lasting course o f
deficit reduction.

Outlook for the Southeast
What does this outlook imply for the Southeast, which includes not only prosperous
and fast-growing cities like Atlanta, Nashville, and most o f Florida but also weak or even
depressed places such as Louisiana? The main factors that will determine U.S. economic
performance this year will also have a primary bearing on how this part o f the country
does.

Stabilization o f the energy sector is especially important to Louisiana and the

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year. Lower unemployment rates in both states are evidence o f improvement, though. I
feel confident that they have reached bottom and are in position to begin to turn
around.

Agriculture, too, is exhibiting encouraging signs. The cotton crop is excellent

this year and prices are up. Except for feed grains and rice, total crop output is better
than last year, and a combination o f reduced acreage, higher yields, and stable or higher
prices are expected to improve net farm revenues substantially. A few years o f similar
results could bring the industry back to health.

On a more immediately positive note, improvements in the trade balance is spelling
good news for many southeastern manufacturers who were subject to either intensified
import competition or greater difficulty in marketing abroad after the dollar appreciated
in the early 1980s.

One particular problem that affected many industries here is the

failure o f the dollar to depreciate against major foreign competitors such as Canada and
the newly industrializing countries of the Pacific rim.

Consequently, the Southeast’s

important forestry industry continued to be hurt by the influx o f Canadian softwood. The
same has been true o f apparel makers who compete with clothing manufacturers in
Taiwan, Korea, and Hong Kong.
some progress.

Fortunately, this situation has finally begun to show

In the first ten months of 1987 the dollar fell more sharply vis-a-vis

Taiwan’s currency, for example, than against the currencies o f our other major trading
partners.

I expect such realignments to help. Still, foreign competition has led certain

traditional southeastern industries to restructure through increased automation.

This

means that whatever turnaround the textile and chemical industries and others in similar
situations undergo is not likely to have a dramatic impact on employment.

Any rise in

output will generate some new jobs, but employment gains will not be proportionate to
advances in output.

Other locally important industries are likely to face mixed prospects this year.




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Auto and related manufacturing, which has been an increasingly significant economic
activity in Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama, may not perform as strongly as last year if
consumer spending for durables tapers o ff at the national level.

Defense contracts are

the bread and butter o f many o f the region's electronics producers as well as makers o f
transportation equipment like aircraft.

With spending by the federal government

expected to slow, activities in these industries may be somewhat weaker.

Aside from the e ffe c t o f macroeconomic factors like deficit spending trends, the
trade balance, and consumer spending deceleration, the Southeast's growth is heavily
influenced by some unique regional factors.

Probably the most important o f these is

population growth, or more specifically, in-migration. The inflow o f people to the region
spurs corresponding gains in industries like trade and services. Population-driven growth
in the demand for services ranging from schools and hospitals to recreation and the whole
gamut o f retail establishments is one o f the major reasons for the relatively rapid
employment and income gains o f Florida and Georgia. The in-migration of new residents
also stimulates demand for new houses, apartments, offices, and retail space, in turn
making for a bustling construction industry.

In the near term, we should see continued population expansion and attendant gains
in the service sector.

However, the construction industry may not do as well as this

population forecast might lead one to expect. In particular, multifamily building, as well
as o ffice and retail construction, is likely to be weak.

The reasons for this apparent

anomaly are the tax law changes and the fact that in recent years many local markets in
the Southeast were substantially overbuilt and need time for all the new space to be
absorbed.

Summing up, though growth in the Southeast on the whole may decelerate

from last year, on average it is still likely to be fast enough to stay ahead of the nation,
and in many areas the prospects are for pretty robust expansion.




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Stability o f the Financial Services Industry
My outlook for continued expansion should be good news in general for the banking
industry, whose health, as you know, tends to wax and wane with the economy.
Nonetheless, we were all aware o f disturbing signs o f problems well before the stock
market collapse.

A recent study at the Atlanta Fed shows bank profitability declined

further in 1986, particularly among the smallest institutions.
bank failures will probably continue in large numbers.

This would suggest that

Last year, 138 banks failed—the

highest in any single year since the Depression, and with over 150 banks closed already
this year, it is clear that the pace o f closings has not abated. Fortunately, the failures
we are seeing are not having systemic effects, and the events o f the past three weeks
have not shaken any depository institutions. There are, however, banking issues with farreaching implications.

These include deposit insurance, off-balance sheet activities,

interstate banking, and product deregulation. In a sense these issues are all subsumed by
the larger question o f balance between regulation and deregulation.

In some areas like

interstate banking, we haven't gone far enough, yet in others we seem to need new or
tighter restrictions.

In the time remaining, therefore, I'd like to discuss some o f the

major issues involving the banking industry.

Let me start with what I believe is one o f the easier issues to resolve by simply
completing the movement toward deregulation that was begun a few years ago.

That

issue is geographical barriers. We've com e a long way toward geographic deregulation o f
the financial services industry and, in so doing, giving greater vent to the creative forces
of market competition.

Almost half of the states have authorized, or will authorize

within the next 18 months, nationwide interstate banking, and only a few states have not
shown any significant
banking.




movement toward either regional or nationwide interstate

Despite the number o f states that have at least regional banking provisions,

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however, a hodgepodge o f geographic limitations make the situation more difficult.

In

addition, most interstate laws now on the books prohibit de novo entry. Thus we have not
yet achieved effective interstate banking, and customers are still deprived o f the
competitive choices in prices and services such geographical deregulation would bring. I
do not deny that the experiment with regional interstate banking-one in which
southeastern banks joined early on--has been a worthwhile move in the direction o f
breaking down barriers that are no longer viable, but we must remember that it is just
the first step in a longer journey. It is time to adopt a more systematic approach at the
national level toward what I feel is the inevitable and beneficial adoption o f full
nationwide interstate banking, especially in view o f the veritable globalization o f
markets~not just in the ’'real" economy as I noted in my remarks on the outlook but even
moreso in financial markets.

While the issue o f interstate banking is a relatively simple one to solve, other issues
on the road to deregulation are far less tractable. We have heard much lately about the
need to expand the powers allowed to banks so that they can compete effectively with
unregulated intermediaries which offer banking-type services.
desirable goal, but in many respects it is theoretical.

I agree that this is a

We cannot move quickly from a

system that has been regulated and protected in such diverse ways to one that is totally
unconstrained. In most other sectors o f the economy, we could easily say that the strong
would survive and the weak fail and so be it, but we cannot really do this in banking. The
reason we cannot is that we are committed to insuring smaller deposits, and we have
often acted as if we are essentially insuring all creditors o f banks, except the
stockholders.

We must deal directly with the question o f what we will and will not

insure~the boundaries of the safety net~before we permit banks to enter new areas of
business.
lesson.




The cost o f failures to the FDIC as well as to FSLIC ought to teach us this

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Deposit insurance is thus the most pressing o f all the issues we face.

Until the

recent banking act was passed, the chief concern in this area had been the weakness o f
the FSLIC.

Passage o f the act was a much needed measure.

Unfortunately, the $10.8

billion provided to bail out the fund appears far from adequate and thus makes it likely
that Congress will eventually turn to the taxpayers and bankers as sources for further
assistance, perhaps by proposing a merger of the FSLIC and FDIC. However, aside from
this eventuality, which I know is troubling to bankers and even to most S&Ls, deposit
insurance is in need o f more general reform to correct the problem economists call moral
hazard.

By insuring depositors, something to which we as a nation have become deeply

committed, we inadvertently create incentives to bank managers to undertake excessive
risks, especially when their institutions are already facing declining earnings figures.
Thus, in my view, we cannot grant banks many new powers until we have devised a
measure to address the moral hazard issue.

Several approaches to "fixing" deposit insurance have emerged. Some people have
proposed tying deposit premiums to risk.

Currently, banks' deposit insurance premiums

are set at a flat percentage o f their domestic deposits regardless o f their risk exposure.
Alternatively, some economists advocate a less regulatory approach, such as limiting
deposit insurance coverage so depositors will have more incentive to enforce market
discipline on banks and penalize them by moving their money when risk exposure seems
excessive. A less dramatic, yet still effective way to let the markets do part o f the work
might be to impel uninsured depositors and holders o f subordinated debt to exert more
surveillance and discipline on institutions they patronize.

FDIC proposals for limited

payout of uninsured deposits at failed banks and for greater disclosure o f banks' financial
condition embody this approach. Of course, if market discipline is to prove effective, we
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A third alternative, and one that I prefer, is to improve the

identification and regulation o f risk. In an effort to com e to grips with risk, the Federal
Reserve, the Bank o f England, and regulators in Europe and Japan are devising new
capital standards that account more accurately for banking organizations' overall risk
exposure. These standards break assets into several categories based on their probability
o f default and assign different capital requirements to each of the categories. Changes
o f this nature could provide a cushion for the insurance funds and help buffer the industry
from systemic risk.

Such a reform o f capital requirements could also address the problem o f o ffbalance sheet items. Because they understate the amount o f risk relative to capital, the
proliferation o f products like standby letters o f credit, interest rate swaps, and so forth
could lead to insolvency, not only o f institutions immediately involved but o f their
insuring agencies and depositors as well. Adequate capital to back up off-balance-sheet
items would limit inappropriate risk taking.

To be effective, however, international

coordination is needed since banks around the world are placing more emphasis on these
products as sources o f income.

The coordination between American and British

regulators that led to the currently proposed guidelines on off-balance sheet items has
been a welcome initiative. I would hope to see such efforts expanded to encompass other
advanced economies.

I do not pretend to have answers to all of these complex issues.

I am convinced,

however, of the urgency of the situation. The same international competitive forces that
are playing an ever increasing role in our nation's economy and which have been a
constant theme in my remarks today will push many o f these issues to some kind o f
resolution if we fail to act.

The danger is that that resolution may not be the one we

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"offshore" to offer services prohibited to them domestically, thus evading regulations
altogether and making it even harder for regulation to ensure its most basic end—the
safety and soundness o f the financial system.

As for the general direction in which policy makers should be moving, Pm afraid we
have to beware of sweeping changes that would be categorized under a single rubric like
"deregulation."

The current problems faced by many institutions and even entire

segments of the financial services industries—S&Ls, for example—indicate that we
proceed with caution.

The real challenge to legislators and regulators in this by no

means optimal environment in which we find ourselves will be to avoid falling into the
traps of the past, such as waiting until problems reach crisis proportions so that we are
left with few options. We must also beware o f focusing too much on the present and the
past as we try to help institutions make a transition through the short term into more
flexible organizations that are viable in the long run.

As for the financial markets—in

contrast to institutions—I think we must focus not on program trading or symbols o f
problems but on fundamentals like the federal budget deficit that have been causing
imbalances in our economy, not for a few weeks but for several years.

Conclusion
I began my remarks by focusing on the nation’s economy. Recent behavior o f
financial markets has demonstrated that forecasting the future is a risky business, and
that increased uncertainty applies no less to the economic outlook Pve presented today.
Notwithstanding this important caveat, I believe the prospects for continued economic
growth are good and that this environment should help the financial services industry
work through some o f its current problems. The challenge that we face is to address the
right problems and to do so in a way that results in solutions that enable banks and other
financial intermediaries to meet the challenges o f a global economy. The measures we




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adopt must not be just temporary stopgaps that actually undermine the competitiveness
o f institutions we’re trying to help but rather policies that help move us toward that long
run, theoretical goal o f more competitive financial markets.