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A League




of

Nations

SPEECH
OF

HON. ROBERT L. OWEN
OF O K LA H O M A

IN THE

SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

FEBRUARY 26, 1919

WASHINGTON

1919
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S P E E C H
OF

I I OX.

ROBERT

L.

O WE N .

A TEAGUE OF NATIONS.

Mr. OWEN. Mr. President, the people of Europe and the peo­
ple of the world are heartsick. Crepe hangs on their doors. Men
without arms, men without legs, men without eyes, men who are
maimed in every conceivable way can be seen everywhere
throughout the world as a result of this last great exhibition of
human folly and ambition— the world war precipitated by the
Hohenzollerns.
The world is anxious to establish world peace, world com­
merce, world happiness. And every statesman, it seems to me,
Mr. President, should feel himself charged with the responsi­
bility of trying constructively to attain this end.
Delegates representing the United States. Great Britain,
France, Italy, Japan, Belgium, Brazil, China, Czecho-Slovakia,
Greece, Poland, Portugal, Itoumania, and Serbia have submitted
for the consideration of the world and of the statesmen of the
world a report formulating a plan for a league of nations.
No thoughtful man, certainly no thoughtful statesman, ac­
quainted with the fallibility of man would expect that this first
formulation of a draft would be absolutely perfect. It is not
perfect, hut it is a beginning and contains many things of very
great value. And it can be perfected so as to completely safe­
guard the world against war and at the same time completely
safeguard the sovereignty and absolute independence of eacii
one of the member nations.
Statesmen anxious to serve the world should deal with this
formulated plan in a spirit of helpfulness, o f construction rather
than in a spirit ot tearing down or of destruction; much less
should they show an intemperate or an ungenerous attitude
in criticizing a document, the importance of which to the pres­
ervation of the future liberty and happiness of mankind is so
obvious.
Mr. President, modern science, with the mastery of the air,
with the submarine, with poisonous gases, with the steel war
tank, with the machine gun, with rapid transportation facili­
ties, with tremendous output of war machinery and the muni­
tions of war make it unthinkable that the world will permit
itself to be destroyed by a repetition of the recent war, which,
if it is to be repeated, will be far more terrible than the last
war, and which will break down civilization itself. The men
and the women and the children of the world who labor to
produce the values of the world are entitled to peace and to
happiness, and woe be to those blind statesmen who fail now to
safeguard the people of the world in their rights to life, to
liberty, and to the pursuit of happiness.




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We liave already seen the effect in Russia, in Germany, and
in Austria of the complete failure of government to protect
life, and we have seen the great mass of men moving like a
terrible ocean sweeping the Romanoffs to their graves and
tearing down the standards of government which have failed
the reasonable expectation of the people. It was the blindness
and the dullness, it was the stupidity, it was the greed, it was
the arrogance o f the officials o f France that lead to the French
Revolution. These same forces led to the revolution in Russia
and then to the extreme form of political madness— the Bolsheviki movement of a class war— the war against those who have
property or education by those who suffer from famine.
The representatives of the belligerent nations are now as­
sembled at Paris conferring with the representatives of nations
newly born and to be born, with a view to using the great in­
fluence of the belligerent powers in the establishment of selfgoverning nations, with territories properly delimited and
with a view to giving protection to the backward nations oc­
cupying colonies and dependencies, such as the ignorant blacks
of the German African colonies.
T H E T A S K IS TH E R E .

Mr. President, the immediate peace of the world, the cessation
and prevention of actual war between the Balkan States, be­
tween Bulgaria and Roumania, between Roumania and the
Ukraine, between Poland and Prussia, between the various
States that are being born and the surrounding States impera­
tively demand that the conference o f the great powers at Paris
lay down the terms fixing territorial boundaries and establish
the means by which to keep ambitious States from assailing each
other and disturbing the peace of the world. They must con­
sider the question o f arbitration of international disputes. It
was only the power of Germany and her allies which prevented
the nations o f the world from agreeing at The Hague to inter­
national arbitration and international disarmament in 1899 and
1907.
The Paris conference must consider the question of disarma­
ment as a means of protecting the future peace and to prevent
Europe again being thrown into an universal war. All the
nations of the world are ready to agree to arbitration of in­
ternational disputes and to disarmament. As far as the United
States is concerned the House of Representatives has just
voted in favor of reducing our Army to the minimum o f do­
mestic protection. We have made treaties with nations all over
the world to arbitrate our differences. The people o f the
United States are in favor of international disarmament. They
are in favor of arbitrating differences with other nations, and I
say flatly and emphatically that it is better to leave any dispute
that might arise between the officials of the United States and
the officials o f Brazil or Persia or South Africa or Great Britain
unsettled, as some o f the Revolutionary claims are still unset­
tled, than to fly to arms and kill millions o f men to gratify
official impatience, arrogance, or anger.
Mr. President, I have read carefully the so-called “ Formula­
tion of a plan for the league of nations.” It interposes a num­
ber of obstacles to those who might desire to make war.
First. Article 10 pledges all of the member nations “ to respect
the territorial integrity and existing political independence” of
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all States members of the league. This is a guaranty of all the
nations of the world of the utmost importance. Moreover, article
10 pledges all the nations of the world “ to preserve against ex­
ternal aggression the territorial integrity and existing political
independence” of all the States members of the league, whether
great or small. This is an undertaking of gigantic magnitude
and is a positive bond safeguarding the territorial integrity and
existing independence of all States. And no war can happen in
the future if this pledge is respected either in the first or second
of its provisions. If all nations respect the territorial integrity
and political independence of other nations, we will have peace,
and if any nation have the temerity not to respect this bond
and be guilty of external aggression, it will face all the world
pledged to oppose it in its aggression. Aggressive war under
such a menace is well-nigh inconceivable. Is not this a mag­
nificent barrier against a future ambitious or warlike State?
Article 11 declares that any war or threat of war is a mat­
ter of concern to the league, and the high contracting parties
reserve the right to take any action that may be deemed wise
and effectual “ to safeguard the peace of the nations.” In
other words, it is the declared intention of all of the nations of
the world to take steps to prevent war, and to take these steps
in time.
Article 12 pledges every nation that it “ will in no case resort
to war without previously submitting the question and matters
involved either to arbitration or to inquiry by the executive coun­
cil, and until three months after the award by the arbitrators
or a recommendation by the executive council, and that they
will not even then resort to war as against a member of the
league which complies with the award of the arbitrators or the
recommendation of the executive council.”
Is not this pledge under article 12, made by all nations to
every nation in the world, of great value as a deterrent and
obstacle to war?
What official will dare to face the whole world with a breach
o f article 12?
Article 13 agrees to submit questions to arbitration and carry
out in good faith the award.
Is not this agreement with all the nations of the world a most
important means of preventing unsettled disputes leading to
war?
If this had been the rule of international procedure it would
have prevented the last war.
Article 14 provides a permanent court o f international jus­
tice, which may sit as an arbitration tribunal under article 13.
Under article 15 the members agree to refer to the executive
council any dispute likely to lead to rupture which is not sub­
mitted to arbitration, and if the council fails to agree, then to
publish the arguments for and against by the majority and
minority members, and here is also provided an appeal to the
larger “ body of delegates.”
In this way the most troublesome cases would be submitted
first to the council and, secondly, to the representatives of all
the nations of the world for consideration, so that world opinion
can be brought to bear upon the merits of the controversy and
time ensue in which world opinion may be formulated and dur-




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ing which the litigants may feel the pressure of world opinion
before they venture to go to war.
Mr. WILLIAMS. And world prejudice be obviated.
Mr. OWEN. And world prejudice be obviated, as the Senator
from Mississippi very properly observes.
Mr. President, the only objection which I have to articles
12, 13, 14, and 15 is that they permit war as a remedy after
having provided these means for conciliation and arbitration.
In my own opinion, the making o f war for the settling of
a civil dispute is a heinous crime, and it should be branded by the
league of nations and by the opinion of mankind as the highest
of all international crimes. Nothing could be more wicked or
more dastardly than the organized killing of human beings be­
cause of an odious dispute relative to property or relative to some
alleged insult. As long as man remains with passion or with
defective reason, so long may the world expect that some man
will insult another man. And the bigger the fool and the more
arrogant the ass, the more likely he is to offer an insult. But
those who have brains and self-control should know how to deal
with those who lack brains and self-control.
Article 16, air. President, provides a world penalty for any
member nation that wages war without previously submitting
the matter o f dispute to arbitration and inquiry and determina­
tion. This penalty is that when such an arrogant, warlike
nation wages aggressive war in violation o f the law laid down
by the league, such nation—
“ shall thereby, ipso facto, be deemed to have committed an act
of war against all o f the other members of the league which
hereby undertake immediately to subject it to the severance of
all trade or financial relations, the prohibition o f all intercourse
between their nationals and the nationals of the covenantbreaking State, and the prevention o f all financial, commercial,
or personal intercourse between the nationals of the eoveuantbreaking State and the nationals o f any other State, whether
a member of the league or not.”
What official on the face of the earth would dare face this
penalty. The penalty should be directed, however, in my judg­
ment, against any nation that invades the territorial integrity of
another nation. Official murder by aggressive war o f offense
should be stopped by the mandate o f the people of the world,
and officials who violate that mandate should be held personally
responsible.
Is it not clear, Mr. President, that the captains of Industry
and the great financiers of the country whose support is vital
to successful war and whose support in Germany was expressly
solicited by William II ns a primary condition to enable him
to wage the late war, would never under such a threat as this
dare to support an aggressive war which would of necessity
mean the instant paralysis o f all their enterprises and their
ultimate financial and industrial destruction? And is it possible
that any official charged with the authority o f declaring war
would feel justified in declaring an aggressive war against all
the world? The human imagination can not picture such a prop­
osition. Moreover, we must now remember that every military
dynasty is gone. Where are the Hapsburgs? Where are the
Hohen/.ollerns? Where are the petty kings o f the German
States? Where is King Constantine of Greece? Where is the
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Romanoff family and the Czar of all the Russia*? Where is the
Sultan of Turkey? Where the King of Bulgaria? Where is the
King of Roumania? Abdicated all, and tied to cover! What
real war-making power has any king on the globe? Not one is
left.
Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. President, will the Senator permit me
to interrupt him?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Okla­
homa yield to the Senator from Mississippi?
Mr. OWEN. I yield to the Senator from Mississippi.
Mr. WILLIAMS. I want, in reenforcement of what the Sena­
tor has said in the first clause of his last argument, to suggest
to his mind this consideration: Why can not we in the treaty of
peace take a leaf out of American history? The Senator remem­
bers that the thirteenth amendment to the Constitution declares
that no debt made by the Confederacy or by any State forming
a member of the Confederacy should be valid or ever paid.
That was passed with the idea of discouraging future projects
of that sort. Suppose that in the treaty of peace we provided
that all debts made by Germany, Austria, Turkey, find Bulgaria
for the furtherance of their objects in this war were declared to
be nullified and invalid, and that those respective Governments
should issue an amount of bonds equal to the amount thereby
nullified and rendered invalid, and that the proceeds of those
bonds should be devoted to the restoration of Belgium, of north­
ern France, and of Serbia, what would be the effect, I want to
ask the Senator?
Mr. OWEN. I think it is a good suggestion as it would
help to deter nations from making aggressive war for pri­
vate objects. It would prove unprofitable under such circum­
stances.
Mr. WILLIAMS. Moreover, would it not have an effect upon
the people who finance wars?
Mr. OWEN. Assuredly.
Mr. WILLIAMS. Hereafter would not bankers who have
financed wars say to the country wanting to finance, an unjust
or aggressive war, “ Stop a minute; I must think as to whether
or not this war is just, whether it is aggressive or defensive.
I f it is not just, the example of the American Republic in the
thirteenth amendment and the example of the world in this
treaty of peace leads me to suppose that I may lose my money.”
And if bankers are threatened with losing their money, does the
Senator think they would finance any unjust war in the world?
Mr. OWEN. It is perfectly practicable to write into this
formulated plan the suggestion made by the Senator from Mis­
sissippi, and it ought to be done, I think, for it would operate
as one of the additional deterrents to w ar; and what we want
to do is to deter war making.
Mr. WILLIAMS. I am not talking about writing it into
these 20 articles of the league of nations, but I am talking
about writing it into the final articles of peace.
Mr. OWEN. I am agreeable to its b<Mng written into both,
to apply to Germany now and to apply to any other nation in
the future that dares to make aggressive war on mankind. I
thank the Senator for his suggestion. I think Senators ought
to consider this matter from a constructive standpoint and help
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Mr. WILLIAMS. I do not propose to put it in this plan, for
I think if you go to amending this plan you will have 14 other
people to amend it, and you will never get it through; but I am
talking about it as a part of the treaty of peace.
Mr. OWEN. Mr. President, the greatest of all democracies, the
United States, threw its financial power, its man power, on the
side of democracy against autocracy, on the side of right against
might, on the side of decency and justice and humanity against
those who assaulted the great principles of human life. And
autocracy lies in its political grave, never to be resurrected on
this earth. Great Britain is a republic, and so are the great
dominions speaking the English tongue— Canada, whose border,
lying between the United States for 3,000 miles, is undefended
except by those who love liberty and justice on both sides of
this line; Australia, New Zealand, the South African Union
are all republics, and all the colonies and dependencies of
Great Britain are in effect republics in greater or less stages of
advancement. France and her colonies are republics. Switzer­
land is a republic. Italy is a republic with a nominal King,
who has no power against his parliament or against his people
under their structure of government. And so Portugal is a
republic, and Spain and Belgium and Holland and Denmark
and Norway and Sweden are in substance republics. Mr. WILLIAMS. They are democracies.
Mr. OWEN. They are democracies. They have the form of
kingdoms, but the substance o f democracies.
The nations being born in the Balkans and in Russia are being
born as republics. And the subject people of Turkey, under the
protection of the great democracies of the world, are being
brought into being as embryo republics. China is a great repub­
lic. Siberia can not be conceived as being anything less than a
republic. The Poles, the Jugo-Slavs, and Czechoslovakia are
avowedly republics. Even Japan under an Emperor is ruled
by a body of elders cooperating with the parliament chosen to
represent every class of the people, and Japan, when this war
broke out, threw herself at once without hesitation on the side
o f the great democracies o f the world. What greater testimony
could Japan have given o f her attachment to the doctrines of
liberty, justice, and civilization and o f her hostility to dy­
nastic autocracy? Where is there on earth remaining a mili­
tary dynastic autocracy that would threaten the future peace of
the world?
All the Governments o f North and South America, all the Gov­
ernments of Africa, of Asia, of Europe, of the East Indies, and
o f the West Indies are republics or under the patronage of
republics.
The doctrine that might makes right is dead.
The doctrine o f terrorism is dead.
The divine right to rule has gone to hell, whence it came.
The doctrine of liberty, justice, and humanity is triumphant
and is writing its Magna Charta to last for all future time.
Let the United States Senate honor itself by lending its very
best efforts to perfecting this charter.
Mr. President, what was it that protected the liberties of
mankind, that protected civilization, that protected the democra­
cies of the world against the military domination of the Teu­
tonic dynastic autocracies? It was a league of nations in arms
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cooperating as one great league o f democracy against autocracy.
It was a league of nations in arms willing to pay the penalty
in gigantic sacrifice of property and of human life; willing to
die upon the battle field in joint, concerted, cooperative action
to protect liberty and civilization. Gen. Foeh, as commander
in chief of the armed forces of this great league of nations,
directed on the battle line from his headquarters Belgians, Eng­
lish, Scotch, Irish, French, Italians, Greeks, and Americans, and
many others, all of them operating in a league to maintain
liberty and to protect human life and organized society through­
out the world. Shall this lesson bear no fruit? Shall our
sons have died in vain who are buried upon the bloody battle
fields of Europe?
The world wants peace, justice, and liberty, and has shown
itself willing to die for this cause. Do not underestimate the
demand, Mr. President. Do not deny or ignore this profound
aspiration of the human heart. At Paris are assembled repre­
sentatives— military, economic, political—of all the great democ­
racies of the world, facing the task of making the world safe
against the chaos and disorder of war. The geographical lines of
the newborn States must be delimited and agreed upon and
authorized. The relations of these nations with each other must
be so protected that they do not instantly fly at each others’
throats on some mad issue of geographical boundary or fancied *
interest. There must be established by some power somewhere
the relations which shall exist between these nations, between
them and the balance of the world. The colonies which the Teu­
tonic dynasty has shown itself unworthy to control must be pro­
tected and safeguarded by some definite agreement under some
safeguard of administration that will establish and maintain
peace and order and good conduct, internal and external. This
task of readjustment is now being performed at the peace table
at Paris, of necessity, by the very nature of the case. Shall all
the delegates be withdrawn from the peace conference and the
world left in turmoil with the Bolsheviki in control soon to bring
on another world war and drag the people of the United States
from their peaceful avocations to the havoc and destruction of
war? No, Mr. President; there is a better way. The way of
order out of chaos. And the proposed league of nations is wise
and sound and just in its fundamental principles. It represents
the aspirations of the peoples of the world to safeguard the
peace of mankind.
I have pointed out some of (lie more important provisions, but
there are others which must not be overlooked.
Article 17 takes care o f the disputes which might arise
between members of the league and those who are not members
of the league and imposes suitable penalties if a State not a
member of the league disregards the provisions of article 12,
forbidding it to make war as a remedy because of a dispute with
other nations.
Article 18 authorizes the league to be intrusted with the
joint supervision of the trade in arms and ammunition with the
countries in which the control of this traffic is necessary and
in the common interest.
Article 8 provides for steps to be taken to control the manu­
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ests may not be made provocative of war, and this article recog­
nizes the great principle that the maintenance o f peace—
“ will require the reduction of national armaments to the lowest
point consistent with national safety and enforcement by com­
mon action o f international obligations, having special regard
to the geographical situation and circumstances of eacii State.”
Is not article 8 of tremendous importance in removing one
of the great dangers to war? Do we not all know that the Teu­
tonic dynasty for over 20 years was manufacturing on a gigantic
scale the munitions of war and organizing armaments far
beyond domestic need with the intent and purpose to assail the
liberties of Europe and to dominate the world by military force?
And shall we not remove this danger from our future by inter­
national agreement? All the nations o f the world except the
Teutonic allies at The Hague in 1907 were ready to agree to
disarmament, but were prevented by the King of Prussia and
his allies. Now is the most opportune time to write these safe­
guards by treaty into the international law by the consent and
approval of all nations.
Article 19 provides a reasonable and just method for ad­
ministering the affairs of subject peoples and developing them
into democracies under charters granted from the league to
advanced nations qualified by their resources, their experience,
their geographical position to undertake this responsibility as
mandatories on behalf o f the league. And the consent, even
in these cases, of the backward peoples is recognized, the pro­
posed formulated plan expressly providing that “ the wishes
of these communities must be a special consideration in the
selection of the mandatory power,” and “ the mandatory must
be responsible for the administration of the territory, subject
to conditions which will guarantee freedom of conscience or
religion, subject only to the maintenance of public order and
morals, the prohibition o f abuses, such as the slave trade, the
arms traffic, and the liquor traffic, and the prevention of the
establishment of fortifications or military and naval bases, and
o f military training o f the natives for other than police purposes
and the defense of territory, and will also secure equal oppor­
tunities for the trade and commerce o f other members o f the
league.”
And this provision could be further amended to provide that
the bill of rights of civilized States, as far as applicable, should
be recognized as a part of the principle o f the government of
these backward peoples.
I suggest the following amendment to article 19— and I feel
entirely at liberty to suggest this amendment; and amend­
ments which are offered or suggested on this floor, I have no
doubt, will receive respectful consideration from those who
are assembled at Paris, and if they have value I have no doubt
that action by our peace commissioners will be taken accord­
ingly: “ The mandatory must, as far as practicable, recognize
the principles of the bills of rights of civilized States in ad­
ministering the law in such territories, and the charter to the
mandatory shall prescribe these principles.”
Article 20 provides, as a part of the organization of the
league, a permanent bureau of labor, with a view of securing
and maintaining fair and humane conditions of labor for men,
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women, and children by the good offices of the league. Shall
we have no means: of objecting when the blacks of the Kongo
have their hands cut off because they failed to bring in suffi­
cient ivory, as we have seen in the bloody days of the past?
They, too, must have justice and liberty, and should be educated
and civilized as rapidly as circumstances will permit.
Mr. President, the happiness of mankind absolutely depends
on those who labor; they comprise the world, they are the
world. Does this mean that the league of nations, will interfere
with the internal sovereignty of member nations? Not at all.
Article 10 and article 2ft and other articles protect this vital
requirement, and other safeguards can be added. In this mat­
ter the league would function with no more authority than that
of a bureau of publicity— I speak of the particular organization
of a “ bureau of la b or”—which coukl appeal to the opinion of
mankind for the protection and conservation of human life
where it is not adequately safeguarded.
Article 21 provides that the high contracting parties agree
that provision shall be made through the instrumentality of the
league to. secure and maintain, freedom of transit and equitable
treatment for the commerce of all members.
Is not this decent and just and right? Shall interior nations
having no access to. the sea be bottled up without the right to
ship their goods under bond in transit to the sea? It was tins
denial of an outlet that has been one of the contributing causes
for war in the Balkans.
Why shall not suitable provisions be drawn up by amendments
to the plan to secure and maintain, these rights':
Mr. KELLOGG;. Mr. President, will it interrupt the Senator
ill I ask him a question?
M'r, OWEN. Not at all.
The LMvEtSIDXNG OFFICER. Does the Senator from Okla­
homa yield to. the Senator from Minnesota?
Mr. OWEN'.

I yield.

Mr. KELLOGG. I understood the Senator to say that the
proposed constitution of the League did not interfere with the
internal affairs of the various governments. I should like the
Senator's opinion as to whether articles 12. 15, and 16 together
provide for the arbitration of all questions without distinction,
and whether or not disputes as to political questions, such as
trade relations with other countries, import duties, and so forth,
would come under the provisions of the proposed constitution?
Mr. OWEN. In my judgment, it only relates to those things
which are external, because internal affairs are safeguarded, by
article 10; which guarantees to respect and to preserve the
territorial integrity and the existing political independence of
every nation.
Mr. KELLOGG. Does that include all laws pertaining to our
dealings with other countries, such as immigration laws, tariff
laws, and trade relations?
Mr. OWEN. The question, of immigration and tariffs affects
the infernal affairs of our own country and concerns our exist­
ing political independence, and certain *vade relations might
do SO;

Mr. KELLOGG. Would the proposed constitution prevent us
from changing our existing political, eruditions?
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Mr. OWEN. Not at all. I shall deal with that a little later
on. I have not quite come to that, but I am going expressly to
discuss that and show what my opinion is with regard to it.
Mr. McCUMBER. Mr. President----- The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Okla­
homa yield to the Senator from North Dakota?
Mr. OWEN. I yield.
Mr. McCUMBER. I call the Senator’s attention to the fact
that article 12 does not require the nations to submit every
controversy to arbitration-----Mr. OWEN. That is perfectly obvious.
Mr. McCUMBER. But when difficulties arisef it simply pro­
vides that “ they will in no case resort to war without previously
submitting the question and matters involved either to arbitra­
tion or to inquiry ” by the league.
Mr. OWEN. I think that is quite clear.
Mr. KELLOGG. If the Senator from Oklahoma will pardon
me, the inquiry is enforced in exactly the same way as the judg­
ment o f the arbitration tribunal.
Mr. McCUMBER. I do not agree with the Senator.
Mr. OWEN. Article 22 agrees to place under the control of the
league all international bureaus already established by general
treaties, if the parties to such treaties consent. What objection
could there be to this by consent? Is it not better to have a clear­
ing house between the nations to which all international business
may be directed, and where through a common center interna­
tional relationships may be conveniently adjusted? Having a
common center for international business is just as convenient
and necessary as having a clearing house for the bankers of
New York City, where around a common board they can in­
stantly dispatch their business with each other. Suppose each
nation of 50 nations must transact all business by an inde­
pendent means, then each nation would have to send 50 rep­
resentatives to 50 nations, making 2,500 representatives alto­
gether, at great expense, great confusion, great delay. But,
meeting around a common council table, one representative of
each nation would meet one representative from every other
nation at a common board, and 50 men would transact the busi­
ness of 2,500 men.
This is merely common sense and a practice based upon mod­
ern science and usage in the business world.
Article 23 provides for publicity of international agreements
with the penalty that they shall be void unless registered with
the league.
This prevents secret treaties. It makes them void and an
act of treachery to all other nations. It is a powerful deterrent.
Article 24 merely provides for the reconsideration of obso­
lete treaties which might contain some element of danger to
the peace of the world. This article is entirely justified, and
no man would deny it.
Article 25 provides that the high contracting parties agree
that the present proposed covenant is accepted as abrogating
all obligations as between themselves inconsistent with the great
principles laid down in the proposed agreement to safeguard the
peace of the world, and contains an engagement that the mem­
ber nations will not hereafter enter into any engagements incon­
sistent with the terms thereof.
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Is not this a wise provision of importance in safeguarding
tiie future peace of mankind? And there is imposed the fur­
ther duty that new powers admitted to the league shall come
under the same rules. Is not this common sense, and in the
interest of the world?
Article 26 provides that amendments to the covenant of the
league shall only take effect when ratified by the States whose
representatives compose the executive council and by threefourths of the States whose representatives compose the body of
delegates.
Mr. President, do you not here observe that this gives a
veto upon any amendment to this instrument not acceptable to
the United States, and gives a like veto to Great Britain and
to France and to Italy and to Japan, and is it not obvious that
no amendment would therefore be possible to this proposed
agreement betwreen the nations except with the approval and
consent of the United States?
Is this not a great safeguard against the possibility o f any­
thing being written in the relations between the member na­
tions of the league that might at any tim'e be embarrassing to
any of the great powers or to the world?
But, Mr. President, a great objection has been made by vari­
ous honorable and able Senators to the formulated plan on the
ground that it wras proposed to govern the world by the over­
lordship of a body of delegates representing the' high con­
tracting parties and by an executive council and by a perma­
nent international secretariat.
It has been urged with giieat eloquence and zeal that article
1 would invade the sovereignty of the United States.
I confess very frankly that article 1 should be left in no
obscurity, but it is easy to amend article 1. The interpretation which has been put upon article 1 by its critics could cer­
tainly not have been the intention of the representatives of
Great Britain and France and Italy and Japan or others of
the 14 nations who approve this draft. They certainly had no
intention of sacrificing the sovereignty of Great Britain or
France or Italy or Japan or Belgium or China or of other mem­
bers. On the contrary, they have taken great pains in the
body of the formulated plan to safeguard the territorial integ­
rity and political independence of all State members of the
league as they now exist in article 10, where the members
mutually undertake to respect and preserve against external
aggression, the territorial integrity, and existing political inde­
pendence of each other. This is not consistent with the inter­
pretations o f article 1, that would permit the body of delegates
to invade by statutes any domestic concern of any nation.
The proposal of Lieut. Gen. Smuts, who represents perhaps
the best English thought, was as follow s:
“ Tenth. The constitution of the league will be that of a per­
manent conference between the governments o f the constituent
States for the purpose of joint international action in certain
defined respects, and will not derogate from the independence of
those States. It will consist of a general conference, a council,
and courts of arbitration and conciliation.
“ Eleventh. The general conference, in which all constituent
States will have equal voting power, will meet periodically to
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n
discuss matters submitted to it by the council. These matters
will be general measures of international law or arrangements
or general proposals for limitation of armaments or for securing
world peace, or any other general resolutions, the discussion of
which by the conference is desired by the council before they
are forwarded for the approval of the constituent governments.
Any resolutions passed by the conference will have the effect
of recommendations to the national governments and parlia­
ments.”
That was Gen. Smuts’s idea. That idea is prevalent all over
Great Britain. That is the general conception of the authority
to be granted to these delegates who would meet around a coun­
cil table, representing the nations of the world.
It will here be observed that Gen. Smuts only proposed that
the resolutions passed by the conference would have the effect
of recommendations to the national governments and parlia­
ments— nothing more. It is perfectly easy to amend article 1
by inserting the following words:
“ T h e b o d y o f d e l e g a t e s a n d t h e e x e c u t iv e
H A V E NO A U T H O R IT Y TO M A K E L A W S , BU T M A Y

c o u n c il

sh all

PROPOSE

IN T E R ­

N A T IO N A L R E SO LU TIO N S TO BE SU B M ITT E D TO T H E M EM B ER N A T IO N S
FOR CO N SID E RA TIO N .

AND

W HEN

SUCH

RE SO LU TION S

H A V E BEEN

R A TIFIE D B Y A L L T H E S T A T E S W H O S E RE PR ESE N TATIV ES COM POSE
T H E E X EC U TIVE CO U N C IL AN D B Y T H R E E -F O U R T H S OF T H E S T A T E S
W H O S E RE PR ESE N TATIV ES COM POSE T H E BODY OF DELEGATES S H A L L
H A V E T H E EFFECT OF IN T E R N A T IO N A L L A W .”

This is the method proposed in article 20 for amendments to
the formulated plan. Any amendment must, under article 20,
have the approval of the United States before it can be amended.
Mr. President, the peace of the world is too important, the
future happiness and security of our people is too important,
that we should fail at this wonderfully auspicious time to adopt
a plan which will safeguard the future of the world.
I am quite willing to agree, and determined as well, that no
obscurity whatever should be permitted in the proposed plan,
because it is one of the frailties of human nature to have powers
construed into a constitution by those who are charged with the
duty of its administration, and therefore it is of special impor­
tance to put in negative proposals, such as our forefathers
inserted in the Constitution of the United States.
We should insert in the proposed formulated plan that “ n o t h ­
in g

CO N TAIN ED IN T H E IN S T R U M E N T IT S E L F SH O U LD BE CONSTRUED

A S G RA N TIN G A N Y R IG H T S TO T H E LEAGUE OVER T H E IN T E R N A L A F ­
F A IR S

OF

M EM BER

N A T IO N S ,

BU T

TH AT

EVERY

M EM B ER

N ATIO N

SH O U LD BE RECOGNIZED A S H A V IN G CO M PLETE R IG H T OVER ITS E M I ­
GRATION AND IM M IG R A T IO N , ITS IM PO R TS AN D EXPO RTS, AN D A L L ITS
DOM ESTIC A F F A IR S W IT H O U T A N Y IN TERFEREN CE W H A T E V E R BY T H E
LE AG U E .”

Mr. KELLOGG. Mr. President-----The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Okla­
homa yield to the Senator from Minnesota?
Mr. OWEN. I yield.
Mr. KELLOGG. That is exactly what I had in mind. As
Senators seem to disagree as to the meaning of sections 12,
15, and 16, it does seem to me that it should be made plain,
so that no political question can be raised.
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Mr. OWEN. I agree with the Senator that an instrument
of such importance as this should be made absolutely plain;
and, frankly, I should not feel justified in supporting an instru­
ment of this magnitude and this importance unless it were
made plain, and I think the Senate of the United States are
in a position to make it plain. They have the capacity; they
ought to have the will. As far as I am concerned. I shall stand
firmly for seeing that this instrument shall be free from any
ambiguity whatever.
It is not necessary for the league to interfere with the in­
ternal affairs of any member nation. I am sure that Great
Britain and France and Italy and Japan do not contemplate
granting this right to the league of nations.
Mr. FRANCE. Mr. President-----The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Okla­
homa yield to the Senator from Maryland?
Mr. OWEN. I yield to the Senator.
Mr. FRANCE. I am very much interested in what the Sen­
ator is saying. Would he care to define what he means by
“ internal affairs” ? Would he consider a question arising
between Great Britain and one of her colonies— Ireland, for
example— as being an internal affair, or not?
Mr. OWEN. I would. We can not at this time and in this
way undertake to settle the disputes between member nations
and the component parts of member nations, unless we want to
tear asunder the whole procedure. We can not undertake that.
We can not go into it. You might as well undertake to deal
between the United States and Texas as a part of this proposal.
It i* easy enough to have an amendment that the league of
nations shall not exercise any powers except those that are ex­
pressly granted to the league. But the great principles o f inter­
national law which are laid down in this formulated plan are
vital to our own future and to the peace of the world, and I
venture to express the hope that the Senate of the United States
will consider this matter constructively, with a view to perfect­
ing the plan rather than with a view to confusing counsel and
exciting suspicion and arousing the hostility of our people on
the theory that this instrument is full of pitfalls and dangerous.
We assuredly have the wisdom to analyze the formulated plan
and to point out how it may be improved and made free from
any objection, and this ought to be done.
I do not care, Mr. President, to repeat the arguments which
have already been presented with such force upon the floor
relative to the views of our revered first President in his Fare­
well Address. 1 am altogether in accord with the principles
expressed in the Farewell Address o f Washington. But the day
of American isolation has long since ended. Our interests are
bound up in the welfare and happiness of mankind. We are
no longer isolated. A submarine could come up the Potomac
River and blow down the Capitol of the United States, it could
drop a gas bomb in the Senate that would smother the most
glorious declamation and the most magnificent oratory. We
are not isolated; we can never be isolated. We are face to
face with the duty and the task of using the influence of this
great Nation to bring about the security and peace of the world.
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16
Our people realized this when they determined that the time
had come for 11s to engage in suppressing the military autoc­
racy of the Teutonic allies, and we have just completed that
task at a stupendous cost in treasure and in human life. We
can not afford to have another world war. The interests of
tire American people demand peace, security, stability, in order
vliat they may enjoy the rights guaranteed by our Constitution
of life, liberty, and the pursuit o f happiness.
Mr. President,, may I not be permitted to pray that my
colleagues shall consider this mater with very great patience,
and deliberation, to the end of perfecting this proposal estab­
lishment of international law in order that our people may
have the peace to which they are so thoroughly entitled?
America brought this war to an end. to the imperishable glory
of her gallant and intrepid sons, who, over every obstacle of
barbed wire, sunken trenches, concealed machine guns, against
poisonous gases, against a hurricane of shrapnel, and high ex­
plosives, never paused and never failed to advance until the
German military commanders collapsed.
The people of Europe and the people of the world owe to
America a debt which can never be paid, and America must not
depart from her high standards o f human service. The time is
at hand to establish the conditions which will verify the prophecy
of a thousand years of peace. The time has come when there
shall be established upon the earth the great principles of liberty,
of justice, of humanity, and America should take the leading
part in that constructive work. I am one of those who strongly
advised the President of the United States to go to Europe iit
order that the ideals of America might be presented to the-Euro­
pean statesmen, whom I knew were embarrassed because of
their long and painful experience with militarism. I knew that
they could not help thinking in terms of strategic boundaries, in
terms o f battalions, in terms o f armaments, and I am rejoiced
that our President was able to favorably influence European
opinion, so that wc now have laid before us the preliminary
formulation of a plan which when perfected will effect and
maintain forever the peace of the world. Let America take her
place in the front rank in this forever-glorious enterprise.
I ask permission to insert in the R ecord a quotation from Mr.
Roosevelt upon this matter, which he made in his Nobel speech,
as an exhibit to my remarks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so or­
dered.
The matter referred to is as follow s:
[F r o m
an a d d re ss on “ In te r n a tio n a l P e a c e ”
b e fo r e th e N o b e l
C o m m it t e e , d e liv e r e d a t C h r is t ia n ia , N o r w a y , M a y 5 , 1 0 1 0 , by
d o r e R o o s e v e lt .]

P r iz e
Theo­

( I t a l i c s a r e in s e r t e d to e m p h a s iz e c e r t a in p r o p o s a ls .— R
L. O )
N o w , h a v in g fr e e ly a d m it t e d th e lim it a t io n s to o u r w o r k a n d th e
q u a l i f i c a t i o n s t o b e b o r n e in m i n d , I f e e l t h a t I h a v e t h e r i g h t t o h a v e
m y w o r d s t a k e n s e r i o u s l y , w h e n I p o i n t o u t w h e r e , in u :v j u d g m e n t ,
g r e a t a d v a n c e c a n b e m a d e in t h e c a u s e o f i n t e r n a t i o n a l p e a c e .
I sp eak
a s a p r a c t i c a l m a n , a n d w h a t e v e r I n o w a d v o c a t e I a c t u a l l y t r i e d tc d o
w h e n I w a s f o r th e t im e b e in g th e h e a d o f a g r e a t N a t io n , a n d k e e n ly
je a lo u s o f it s h o n o r a n d in te r e s t.
I a sk o th e r n a tio n s to d o o n ly w h a t
I s h o u ld b e g la d to se e m y o w n N a t io n d o .
T h e a d v a n c e c a n b e m a d e a lo n g s e v e r a l lin e s .
F ir s t o f a ll. th e r e c c n
be tr e a tie s o f a r b itr a tio n .
T h ere a re, o f cou rse. S ta te s so b ack w ard th a t
a . ' f u V tv.z e ( * c o m m u n i t y o u g h t n o t t o e n t e r i n t o a n a r b i t r a t i o n
tre a ty
w ith th e m , a t le a s t u n til w e h a v e g o n e m u ch fu r th e r th a n a t p r e se n t
in s e c u r in g s o m e k in d o f i n t e r n a t io n a l p o lic e a c t io n .
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c iv iliz e d c o m m u n it ie s s h o u ld h a v e e ffe c t iv e a r b it r a t io n t r e a t ie s a m o n s
t h e m s e lv e s .
I b e lie v e t h a t t h e s e t r e a t ie s c a n c o v e r a lm o s t a ll q u e s tio n s
lia b le to a r is e b e tw e e n s u c h n a t io n s , i f t h e y a r e d r a w n w it h th e e x ­
p lic it a g r e e m e n t t h a t e a ch c o n t r a c t in g p a r ty w ill r e s p e c t th e o t h e r s
t e r r i t o r y a n d i t s a b s o l u t e s o v e r e i g n t y w i t h i n th a t- t e r r i t o r y , a n d t h e
e q u a lly e x p lic it a g r e e m e n t t h a t (a s id e fr o m th e v e r y r a r e c a s e s w h e r e
th e n a tio n s h o n o r is v i t a l l y c o n c e r n e d ) a ll o t h e r p o s s ib le s u b j e c t s o f
c o n tr o v e r s y w ill be su b m itte d
to
a r b itr a tio n .
Such
a tre a ty
w o u ld
in s u r e p e a c e u n le s s o n e p a r t y d e lib e r a te ly v io la t e d it .
O f cou rse
as
y e t th e r e is n o a d e q u a te s a fe g u a r d a g a in s t su c h d e lib e r a te v io la t io n ,
b u t t h e e s t a b li s h m e n t o f a s u ffic ie n t n u m b e r o f t h e s e t r e a t i e s w o u ld g o
a - l o n g w a y t o w a r d c r e a t i n g a w o r l d o p i n i o n w h i c h w o u l d f i n a l l y fin d
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o f th e w ork o f th e c o n fe r e n c e s a n d c o u r ts a t T h e H a g u e .
It h a s been
w e l l s a i d t h a t t h e f i r s t H a g u e c o n f e r e n c e f r a m e d a M a g n a C’ h a r t a f o r
t h e n a t i o n s ; it s e t b e f o r e u s a n i d e a l w h i c h h a s a lr e a d y to s o m e e x t e n t
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th ir d s h o u ld d o y e t m o r e .
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s e r io u s ly .t o t h e t a s k o f d e v is in g s o m e m e t h o d w h ic h s h a ll
n c tv n ip lix h th is r e s u lt.
I f I m a y v e n tu r e th e s u g g e s t io n , it w o u ld he
w e ll f o r t h e s t a t e s m e n o f t h e w o r ld , in p la n n i n g f o r t h e e r e c t io n o f
t h i s w o r l d c o u r .t , t o s t u d y w h a t h a s b e e n d o n e i n t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s b v
th e S u p re m e C o u rt.
I c a n n o t h e lp t h in k in g t h a t th e C o n s t it u t io n o f
t h e U n it e d S t a t e s , n o t a b ly in t h e e s t a b li s h m e n t o f t h e S u p r e m e C o u r t
and
in t h e
m e th o d s a d o p te d
fo r
s e c u r in g p e a c e a n d g o o d
r e la tio n s
a n io h g a n d b e tw e e n t h e d iffe r e n t S t a t e s , o ffe r s c e r ta in v a lu a b le a n a lo ­
g ie s t o w h a t s h o u ld b e s t r i v e n f o r in o r d e r t o s e c u r e , ‘ t h r o u g h T h e
H a g u e c o u r ts a n d c o n fe re n c e s, a s p e c ie s o f w o r ld fe d e r a tio n fo r in te r ­
n a tio n a l p e a c e a n d ju s tic e .
T h e r e a r e , o f c o u r s e , fu n d a m e n t a l d iffe r e n c e s b e tw e e n w h a t th e U n ite d S ta t e s C o n s titu tio n d o e s a n d w h a t w e
s h o u ld e v e n a t t e m p t a t t h is t im e to s e c u r e a t T h e H a g u e , b u t th e m e th ­
o d s a d o p t e d in
th e A m e ric a n
C o n stitu tio n
to p r e v e n t h o s tilit ie s b e ­
t w e e n t h e M a t e s a n d t o s e c u r e t h e s u p r e m a c y o f t h e F e d e r a l c o u r t in
c e r u iln c la s s e s ol e a s e s , a r e w e ll w o r th t h e s t u d v o f t h o s e w h o see k
a t i n e H a g u e t o o b ta in th e s a m e r e s u lt s on a w o r ld s c a le .
In th e t h ir d p la c e , s o m e t h i n g s h o u ld b e d o n e a s s o o n a s p o s s ib le to
c h e c k th e g r o w th o f a r m a n ie n ts , e s p e c ia lly n a v a l a r m a m e n ts , b y i n t e r ­
n a tio n a l a g r e e m e n t.
N o o n e p o w e r c o u ld o r s h o u ld a c t b y i t s e l f , fo r
it is e m in e n t ly u n d e s ir a b le , fr o m t h e s t a n d p o in t o f th e p e a c e o f r ig h t­
e o u s n e s s , t h a t a p o w e r w h ic h r e a l ly d o e s b e lie v e in p e a c e s h o u ld p la c e
i t s e l f a t th e m e r c y o f s o m e r iv a l w h ic h m a y a t b o tt o m h a v e n o s u c h
b e lie f a n d n o in te n t io n o f a c t in g o n it .
R u t. g r a n te d sin c e r ity o f p u r­
o f th e w o r ld
sh o u ld
fin d n o
in s u r m o u n ta b le
p ose, th e g rea t p o w e r s
d iffic u lt y in r e a c h in g a n a g r e e m e n t w h ic h
w o u ld p u t a n e n d
to th e
p r e s e n t c o s t ly a n d g r o w in g e x tr a v a g a n c e o f e x p e n d itu r e o n n a v a l a r m a ­
m e n ts.
A n a g r e e m e n t m e r e ly to li m i t t h e s iz e o f s h ip s w o u ld h a v e
b een v e r y u s e fu l a fe w y e a r s a g o , a n d w o u ld s t i l l h e o f u s e , h u t th e
a g r e e m e n t s h o u ld g o m u c h fu r th e r .
F in a lly , it w o u ld be a m a s te r s tr o k e if th o s e g r e a t p o w e r s h o n e s tly
b e n t on p e a c e w o u ld fo r m a le a g u e o f p e a c e , n o t o n l y to k e e p t h e p e a c e
a m o n g t h e m s e lv e s b u t to p r e v e n t, b y fo r c e if n e c e s s a r y , its b e in g b ro k en
b y o th e rs.
T h e s u p r e m e d iffic u lty in c o n n e c t io n w it h d e v e lo p in g t h e
p e a c e w o r k o f T h e H a g u e a r i s e s f r o m t h e la ck o f a n y e x e c u t i v e p o w e r ,
o f a n y p o lic e p o io c r , to e n fo r c e th e d e c r e e s o f th e c o u r t.
In a n y com ­
m u n it y o f a n y s iz e t h e a u t h o r it y o f th e c o u r t s r e s t s u p o n a c t u a l o r
p o te n t ia l fo r c e , o n t h e e x is te n c e o f a p o lic e , o r o n t h e k n o w le d g e t h a t
t h e a b le -b o d ie d m e n o f t h e c o u n t r y a r e b o th r e a d y a n d w i lli n g to s e e
t h a t th e d e c r e e s o f ju d ic ia l a n d le g is la t iv e b o d ie s a r e p u t in to e ffe c t.
I n n e w a n d w ild c o m m u n itie s w h e r e th e r e is v io le n c e , a n h o n e s t m a n
m u s t p r o te c t h im s e lf, a n d , u n til o th e r m e a n s o f se c u rin g h is s a fe t y a re
d e v is e d , it is b o th f o o lis h a n d w ic k e d t o p e r s u a d e h im t o s u r r e n d e r h is
a r m s w h ile th e m e n w h o a r e d a n g e r o u s to th e c o m m u n ity r e ta in th e ir s .
H e s h o u ld n o t r e n o u n c e t h e r ig h t to p r o te c t h im s e lf b y h is o w n e ffo r ts
u n t il th e c o m m u n it y is so o r g a n iz e d t h a t it c a n e ffe c tiv e ly r e lie v e th e
In d iv id u a l o f th e d u t y o f p u t t in g d o w n v io le n c e .
S o it is w ith n a tio n s .
E a c h n a tio n m u s t k eep w e ll p r e p a r e d to d e fe n d i t s e l f u n til th e e s t a b lis h ­
m e n t o f s o m e fo r m o f in te r n a tio n a l p o lic e p o w e r , c o m p e te n t a n d w illin g
to p r e v e n t v io le n c e a s b c tic e c n n a tio n s .
A s th in g s a re n o w , su ch p o w er
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18
to command peace throughout the world

c o u ld b e s t b e a ss u r e d b y s o m e
c o m b in a tio n b e tw e e n t h o s e g r e a t n a tio n s w h ic h s in c e r e ly d e s ir e p e a c e a n d
h a v e n o th o u g h t th e m s e lv e s o f c o m m ittin g a g g r e ssio n s.
The combina­

tion might at first be only to secure peace within certain definite limits
and certain definite conditions ; b u t t h e r u l e r o r s t a t e s m a n w h o s h o u l d
b r i n g a b o u t s u c h a c o m b i n a t i o n w o u l d h a v e e a r n e d h i s p l a c e in h i s t o r y
f o r a ll t i m e a n d h is t i t l e t o t h e g r a t i t u d e o f a ll m a n k in d .

Mr. FRANCE. Mr. President, will the Senator yield?
Mr. OWEN. I yield to tlic Senator.
Mr. FRANCE. I have been very much interested in the ad­
dress of the Senator, because I know that he entertains some
very progressive political views. I desire to ask him one or two
questions, for I know that lie has given much study to the phrase­
ology of the proposed constitution of the league. Does he ap­
prehend that under the present phraseology we might be called
upon to conscript our soldiers for the purpose of fighting Ireland,
for example, if Ireland should desire her independence, or of
fighting India, if India should desire her independence from
the British Empire?
Mr. OWEN. The exact reverse, of course, is true. The con­
ditions which, under the old regime, made subject nations a
military asset will no longer exist if the league be established;
and nations would not regard subject nations as an asset, but
as a liability, where they were discontented.
Mr. FRANCE. I ask that question in view of the state­
ment of the Senator that he thought the language should be
made clear, so that it would be apparent always that member
nations should not interfere in internal disputes.
Mr. OWEN. There is nothing in this proposed league of
nations which would require the United States to furnish her
troops on the battle field. It is one thing to have an aggressive
nation invading the territorial integrity or political independ­
ence of a nation, and by that act, in violation of these terms,
making war itself upon all nations. We had war made on us
a long time before we yielded to the affront and to the danger
which threatened us. A nation can make war under the terms
o f this constitution without involving us in any degree to
furnish any troops. On the contrary, instead of its leading to
conscription, Gen. Smuts in his book on the League o f Nations
argues that conscription is a potent means o f promoting war,
and he is opposed to conscription.
Mr. FRANCE. Certainly there is great ambiguity in the
language when it is susceptible of so many different interpre­
tations.
Mr. OWEN. I think some of the interpretations of the lan­
guage used are not justified at all by the language itself, but
are quite hypercritical and entirely unjustified by anything in
the instrument.
Mr. FRANCE. Now, I desire to ask the Senator one more
question. What does he consider to be the purpose o f this
league o f nations? Is it merely to secure peace, or is it really to
secure justice and the advancement of the welfare of all men,
including the advancement o f the backward nations of the
world?
Mr. OWEN. They are coincident. Justice and peace go hand
in hand. You can not have peace if you do not have justice.
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Mr. FRANCE. I am very glad the Senator is bringing out
that thought-----Mr. OWEN. The Senator himself brought it out.
Mr. FRANCE. Because, according to the idea that I enter­
tain, the two things are not always synonymous. Sometimes
there can not he justice if there is to he peace; sometimes justice
can not he advanced by peaceable means; and it seems to me it
should he clearly stated what the purpose is. If it is merely to
he a league of peace for the preservation of the status quo, that
is one thing. If it is to he a league which is to express the
great cooperative spirit for the advancement of the world and for
the uplifting of those peoples of the world who are backward
and have been kept down because heretofore there has been ex­
ploitation rather than a desire for elevation, then the league is
quite a different thing.
Mr. OWEN. Mr. President, so far as Great Britain is coneel 116(1 , I think, the best evidence that she had tried to give
justice to her colonies was shown by the loyalty and zeal of
her colonies in coming to her support in this great crisis of the
war.
Mr. FRANCE. To try is not enough. To try for justice is
not enough. Justice must be accomplished, flow about the
great country of Africa, composing approximately- one-fourth of
the earth’s land surface? The same heathenism, the same
savagery, exist to-day in the heart of Africa as existed when
the pyramids were new. A mere good-natured will is not enough.
The liberals of the world to-day demand results, and they wili
have them.
Mr. OWEN. I am pleased to see the Senator's enthusiasm
in favor of justice. I am in accord with his desire.
Mr. FRANCE. I believe that the Senator is; but let us keep
the gieat purpose to the front, not merely a stagnant universal
passivity but a purpose of-progress and advancement That is
what I hope to see come out of this great cooperative movement.
Mr. OWEN. I think great advancement will come from this
league, because the principles-of justice and right are written
in the provisions of the proposed league; and when those prin­
ciples are made the universal law I have no doubt that they will
become more and more potent, and that they will become the
universal rule.
ilr. FRANCE. Mr. President, if I am not disturbing the
Senator, may 1 ask him this question: As the Senator from
Oklahoma entertains very progressive views, does Ik* not realize
that many countries of the world have been in the hands o f re­
actionary ministries who look with suspicion upon any effort to
advance and improve the conditions of the backward nations
o f the world?
Mr. OWEN. Undoubtedly. That is not altogether untrue of
the United States.
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