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Tuesday, December 2, 1975
11:00 a.m. EST




SAVINGS BANKS IN THE
UNFOLDING FINANCIAL ENVIRONMENT

Summary of Remarks by
Robert C. Holland, Member
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Twenty-Ninth Midyear Meeting of the
National Association of Mutual Savings Banks
New York, New York

December 2, 1975




I am pleased to participate in this meeting
today, for I have long been intrigued by your industry.
We have a financial system that is characterized by a
kind of tug-of-war between specialized versus generalpurpose institutions.

In that tug-of-war, savings banks

seem poised in the middle, more specialized than the
general-purpose lenders, yet distinctly broader in
their outreach than the traditional personal thrift and
home financing institutions.
Is that position a viable one in the long run,
or are mutual savings banks themselves in the process
of evolving toward one extreme or the other?

I am

not sure of the answer to that intriguing question,
but I am sure that certain underlying economic forces
are going to have a great deal to do with that answer.
These powerful forces are hard at work on the savings
bank industry, and I daresay that before long they
will have forged the shape of your future.
one is formidable in its own right.

Each

Taken together --

and they are interrelated to some extent —

I doubt that

any institution is strong enough to escape unscathed.

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The first and most dangerous of these economic
forces is inflation.

Year after year price increases

have been ravaging our society, distorting values and
creating feverish booms and recessionary aftermaths.
Savings banks are among the institutions most
subtly threatened by inflation.

That may sound like

an incongruous statement, for with both its assets
and its deposits stated in fixed dollar terms, a
savings bank would seem fully hedged against changing
price levels and might justifiably be oblivious to them.
But you may be sure your depositors are not.

Money

left for safekeeping with you has been gradually losing
its value.

If and to the extent that depositors

become disillusioned with that process, your kind of
institutions will have become obsolescent.

You have

much at stake in the battle against inflation, and you
would be well advised to become even more active in
support of long-run anti-inflationary measures.
To brake inflation, the single most effective
counterforce is saving.

More saving provides the w h e r e ­

withal to finance desired investments with less upward







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pressure on prices.

In so doing, of course, saving

can also finance a pleasantly rising standard
of living for the community as a whole.
The demands for saving, however, have often
been overreaching, and they are likely to be intense
during many of the years ahead.

Some of the biggest

added demands for savings in the near-term future
are likely to come from quarters which mutual savings
banks have not traditionally served -- such as investments
to provide more and better forms of energy.

Considering

that the highest and most appealing bidders for funds
usually tend to get the most, there is a chance that
these more insistent bidders will manage to pare down
the share of total savings flowing through thrift
institutions -- unless, of course, thrift institutions
loan portfolios are redesigned to accommodate more of
such types of credit.
An outgrowth of the interplay of these elemental
forces has been a succession of business ups and downs.

- 4 These economic fluctuations have been accompanied,
for the past decade or so, by some of the sharpest
interest rate fluctuations in our history-

Moreover,

I see little on the horizon to keep that kind of
outsize cyclical oscillation of interest rates from
happening again and again over the years ahead.

Indeed,

given the changes being made in financial markets and
instruments and institutions to accommodate such
changes, it would not be surprising to me to see
future cyclical peaks in interest rates that reached
higher and lasted longer than those we have just lived
through.
In this kind of unfolding financial environment,
the competition for savings will be episodically fierce,
both among financial intermediaries and between those
institutions and the instruments available in financial
markets.

To remain in the thick of the savings business,

thrift institutions will probably have to offer more
varied and rewarding types of deposit liabilities.




- 5 I am no expert in the savings field, but I can
imagine the proliferation of longer-term savings
certificates, goal-related savings contracts,
variable interest rate deposits, and even deposits
with both interest and equity pay-outs-

To be able

to afford such liabilities, institutions may need
to be acquiring some fraction of their assets in
forms which also carry variable interest rates, or
some kind of "equity kicker" like a share in any
capital gain on the property being financed.

The

profitable scope for such savings innovations is as
wide-ranging as are people's varied motives for saving.
The better those motives are understood, the more
efficiently instruments can be tailored to meet them.
For that reason, I have often thought that an industry
as dependent upon saving habits as yours could usefully
spend an appreciable part of its budget on basic studies
of why people save.
I believe one could fairly say that mutual
savings banks, at the present moment, are not ideally
suited to the possible future environment that I have




- 6 been sketching.

If you are going to play a vigorous

role in that future, some changes are likely to be
needed.

Members of your industry are already seeking

more flexibility by advocating passage of the proposed
Financial Institutions Act, a course I heartily applaud.
Some mutual savings bankers are also exploring an
added measure of protection against future economic
vicissitudes by affiliation with an assured payments
channel and lender of last resort, namely, the Federal
Reserve System.

And I hope you can understand the

Federal Reserve's own desire to position itself to
operate better in that rapidly changing future, by
spreading monetary reserve requirements over all
deposit-type liabilities in all banking and thrift
institutions.
I,

myself, hope that all of these sought-for

changes are achieved.

It seems to me that your industry

can develop the cohesion needed to pursue these and
other changes effectively.

They imply changes, of

course, in law and regulation as well as in the
institutions1 own operating philosophy.




But the ability to achieve such change is more than
a little constrained by the theology that surrounds
much of the mutual savings bank movement.

That

theological feeling exists both among mutual savings
bankers and those who legislate concerning them.

You

know better than I how malleable that might be.
Change in the savings bank industry is handi­
capped by another common factor.

Most of the changes

mentioned above involve costs as well as benefits to
the firms involved.

It is reasonable for any institution

involved in the process of change to try to cut down the
costs and enlarge the benefits that change brings with
it.

But trying too hard for too long to avoid or

minimize those costs can slow the process of change.
And in this fast-changing world, institutions that are
too slow to change can face a shrinking future.