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BANKING:

WHAT THE LAST TEN YEARS

MAY TELL US ABOUT THE NEXT TEN YEARS

Remarks by
Robert C . Holland
Member, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Twenty-Second Annual Bankers Forum
Georgetown University
Washington, D. C.

September 5, 1975

I am very pleased to join with you today in
this Twenty-Second Bankers Forum.

It affords an

unusual opportunity to share with a distinguished
group of bankers and financial analysts in a
contemplative setting some personal thoughts on what
has been happening to our financial system over the
past decade and what these last ten years may presage
for the future.
All of us are aware that this has been an
eventful decade for the financial system.

Far-reaching

changes have taken place which have sharply altered
banking and finance both at home and abroad.

A

significant number of the changes we have witnessed
are, I believe, manifestations of powerful longer-term
trends.

Many of these trends have yet to peak and can

be expected to continue to influence the shape of finance
and banking for years to come.

Thus, while the past ten

years have seen substantial alterations in the very nature
of the business of banking, we should not expect the pace
The views expressed herein are solely my own and do not
necessarily represent those of my colleagues on the Board
of Governors.
T do wish to acknowledge, however, rhe
helpful assistance in the preparation of these remarks
provided by Mr. Paul M. Metzger, Assistant to the Director,
Office of Managing Director for Operations, and the chief
long-range planner on the Board's staff.




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of change to slow.

On the contrary, it may well

quicken.
This kind of financial environment poses
for policy-makers many and difficult choices that
have had to be made among worthy competing
objectives.

As so frequently happens ir: the

decision-making process, the inexorable pressures
of time, and of the need to deal with many difficult
questions simultaneously, have often led to ad hoc
decisions being taken.

Such decisions made in

response to the exigencies of the moment may sometimes
prove to have been the best that could have been made.
Too often, however, critical decisions have proven to
have been less than optimal because their antecedents
have not been fully appreciated and their future
implications have not been thought through sufficiently.
Financial decision-making of the past decade could have
been better conducted, in my view, if decision choices
had been more consistently examined in the context of
the significant longer-term forces that were gathering




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momentum in those years.

If we are to improve the

quality of our decisions about banking in the future,
it therefore seems particularly important that we
attempt to derive lessons from the past ten years
which can better illuminate the many significant
choices we will surely have to make.
We cannot, of course, be sure that our efforts
in this regard will be entirely rewarding, for no one
can speak with a high degree of certainty about what
the future may bring.

The randomness of chance events

and the mounting complexities of the financial and
banking systems will insure continued uncertainty about
the future.

But I do believe that it can be mutually

helpful to the decisions that you and I will be making
to exchange ideas about the implications of the past
changes we have lived through for the shared future
which our choices will help to shape.
I would ask you therefore to view my remarks
today not as an attempt to speak definitively, but
rather evocatively, in the expectation that what we
say today can provide impetus to a useful diaLogue on




- 4 some of the issues that will be facing all of us with
an abiding concern for improving the functioning of
our banking systems.
My comments will be based primarily on the
United States experience over the past few years
because if seems best for me to speak from my
strongest personal knowledge.

Since the United States

is a significant factor in the world's banking and
financial systems, and because many of the problems
and opportunities which we face also exist in one
degree or another in numerous other countries, I
trust my observations will have some general applica­
bility to the future of banking at large.
The problem of inflation
Looking back over the past decade, it is clear
to me that, of all the longer-term economic trends that
were gathering momentum, the one most threatening to
banking was the massing of the forces of inflation.
I need not recite the details of that painful era for
this knowledgeable audience.







- 5 It is sufficient to call to mind the determined nature
of that onslaught of inflationary pressures -- sometimes
ebbing a bit but repeatedly renewed by a fresh onrush
of demand-pull and cost-push forces in vicious inter­
action, here and there complicated by waves of public
expectations.

It drove prices to historic h i g h s ,

created economic disruptions that spawned the worst
world-wide recession since World War I I , and afflicted
the United States’economy and many others with an
unprecedented combination of simultaneous high rates
of inf lation and unemployment.
While some of these price pressures have
diminished in this recession year, enough other
inflationary factors are hard at work to remain a
cause of grave concern.

We have learned, to our

sorrow, how powerful a cumulative build-up of
inflationary pressures over a number of years can be.
Unhappily, this decade has also driven home
anew the high economic and human costs of inflation
and its consequences.

Spurred by the increasing

awareness of those costs of inflation, governments




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have tried one combination of policies after another
to control inflation within tolerable limits.

But

time and again they have underestimated the power of
their adversary, or they have been inhibited by
various side effects of anti-inflationary programs
that seemed excessively damaging or unfair.

In such

circumstances, harnessing inflation that has gathered
momentum over so long a period and is of world-wide
dimensions has proven to be extraordinarily difficult.
For the banking system to which most of us
give much of our day-to-day attention, the importance
of this decade-long bout with inflation is two-fold.
First and most fundamentally, inflation erodes the
value of banking's "stock in trade."

When money

deposited in a bank for safekeeping progressively
loses its value, the role of chat institution in
society is being subtly compromised.

Second, and

more pragmatically, vigorous efforts to fight inflation
have typically included programs of monetary restraint
sometimes se v e r e . • Periods of really tight money pose
rormidable operating problems for banks ~~ and the fact

- 7 that some other organizations may be having even
greater difficulty is small comfort to banks under
s t ress.
What relief from this kind of banking
difficulty can the future promise us?

It is clear

in my view that the problems of the financial system
would be much less if on average over the years ahead

fiscal policies were to be significantly more antiinflatioaary than has been true over, the past decade.
I would like to be an optimist on this score, but I
shall defer to my colleague on the panel, Dr. Ture,
to supply an objective appraisal of fiscal prospects.
Absent a marked fiscal change, I do not believe
the trends of the recent past promise much relief from
the kind of episodic financial pressures we have been
experiencing.

To put the same point another way,

without a significant change in financial policies
and instruments, it is likely that market forces will
lend to recurring episodes of very high interest ra t e s ,
sharp interest rate fluctuations, and marked shifts of
funds among institutions and markets.




Indeed, there is




a chance that such movements will become even more
extreme in the years ahead.
The past decade has already given us some
idea of the distasteful effects of that kind of
monetary climate.

As you know, when tight money

policy is utilized to reduce inflationary pressures,
and interest rates climb very high, there tend to be
disproportionately heavy impacts on the housing market,
on the State and local bond markets, on small businesses,
on new and marginal borrowers, and on those industries
such as the utilities which require long-term commitments
of f u n d s .
The commercial banking industry performs the
necessary but burdensome role of the fulcrum for a
tight monetary poli c y . As a result of the constraints
imposed on banks by a tightened monetary policy, profits
are foregone, losses are suffered, and customers are
turned away.

Certain other types of financial institu­

tions and aggressive retailing concerns have sometimes
been able to expand their shares of the national credit
market at the expense of the banking industry by meeting

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credit needs that, under these circumstances, bankers
cannot fill.

There are, too, familiar costs of tight

monetary policy in terms of social programs that may
suffer from reduced funding and increases in unemploy­
ment that often tend to place disproportionate burdens
on such sectors of the economy as the construction
industry, on new and marginal workers, and on many
of the economically disadvantaged.
A dilemma is posed by the fact that programs
undertaken to reduce the financial inequities that
are created by efforts to combat inflation may also
tend to reduce the anti-inflationary effectiveness
of restrictive monetary policy.

There is an

extremely difficult trade-off to be made here of which
bankers as well as public policy-makers should be keenly
aware.

Under these circumstances, understandable

attempts by banks to obtain revisions of or to circum­
vent governmentally-imposed constraints in order to ease
the burden placed on them by a restrictive money policy
are likely to weaken the ability of monetary policy to
slow inflation.







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What we need to learn from our decade-long
experience in fighting inflation, is how to redesign
both the mechanisms of the banking system and of
monetary policy complementarily.

That is to say,

we need to learn how to equip and adjust our financial
machinery better so as to alleviate the worse inequities
of both inflation and tight money pressure, but in such
ways that we can implement effectively anti-inflationary
monetary policies when we need to do so.

One aspect of

that redesigning effort should address how we can better
equip our banking system now with the built-in capacity
to reduce the various disturbing financial "ripple
effects" of inflation more effectively.
Each thoughtful observer pondering this challenge
is likely to develop his own particular family of reform
measures.

My own thinking has run tentatively in the

direction of such ideas as low-cost but universal
monetary reserve requirements on all domestic deposittype liabilities; extension of analogous monetary
requirements to deposits denominated in foreign currencies,
including Eurodollars; limited use of variable-rate debts

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or debts with profit-sharing features to allow varying
distributions of income risk between borrower and
lender; more overt use of governmental interest
subsidies for unduly disadvantaged borrowers; and a
somewhat expanded role as lender of last resort for
the central bank.

But I do not wish to pursue the

pros and cons of any particular reform measure here;
I want to avoid being enmeshed in the controversies
over specific measures at this stage in order to
preserve our focus on the more general principle of
the need for complementary monetary and banking reforms.
That doing this will not be a simple or an easy
task is clear; that it must be done, is also clear.
It may make this difficult undertaking somewhat less
intimidating if we remember that all balancing efforts
of the type I have suggested cannot hope to be perfeev
The financial and social inequities which I have
described can, I believe, be reduced, but in this
prolonged struggle with inflationary forces, we cannot
expect to be so skillful or so fortunate as to be able
to avoid them entirely.







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Increasing mobility of funds
The design of a fairer and more counterinflationary financial system will be complicated
by another longer-term trend.

Over the last decade

funds have gained an unprecedented degree of geographic
mobility.

This change is, I believe, a significant

measure of the extent of improvement in our ability
both to marshal funds and to gather and analyze
information about the great diversity of credit needs
and potential borrowers throughout the United States,
in other nations, and among different areas of the
world.
This greater capability has been reflected
in the increased mobility of funds between financial
institutions, both for their own use and for the use
of their customers.

For example, institutions have

become better equipped to meet their own requirements
for short-term funds through the growth of the Federal
funds and Eurodollar markets.

- 13 Enhanced sophistication has also led to an
increase in the movement of funds between financial
institutions and credit markets.

The volume of

savings that has been diverted from depositary
institutions to marketable securities by the
higher interest rates carried by the latter at
times in recent years has been a sobering warning
to all who have heretofore been advocates of
sequestering savings in insulated, special-purpose
thrift institutions.

The increased mobility of funds

has been progressively overreaching the physical structure
of our banking system, which remains constrained by local
and State boundaries.

Most larger banking organizations

have already effectively expanded many services to
encompass regional and national credit markets.

These

changes can be expected to gather momentum as we move
towards implementation of an electronic payments
mechanism.

Such innovations should continue to exert

powerful pressures on local and State restrictions on
banking and hence should increase the mobility of funds
between financial institutions and credit markets
throughout the United States.




- 14 Moreover, the geographic limitations being
circumvented or transcended by these financial
innovations are not solely those within our own
country.

We have witnessed a growing interdependence

among the various national economies and financial
systems.

Barring unforeseeable social or political

disruptions, I believe this trend will continue to
gain strength, particularly among the industrialized
na t i o n s .
Large banks with multinational operations have
come to have access to sources of funds in money markets
all over the world.

These institutions are able to bid

for substantial sources of funds at their offices in
one country and transfer the funds through their
internal networks to an eventual user of funds in
another country.

This flexibility in financing

arrangements by U.S. banks and by banks of other
countries has had the beneficial effect that depositors
in some countries are offered higher rates than other­
wise on their savings while borrowers have obtained
credit on better terms than they might have received




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if their range of choice had been confined to purely
local banks.

In many ways, this "internationalization

of banking" has had the procompetitive effect of
increasing the number of participants in various
banking markets.
On the cost side, the internationalization of
banking has meant that some countries have lost a
measure of control over conditions in their credit
markets. The comparatively uncontrolled Eurodollar
and other Eurocurrency markets have become attractive
sources of intermediation between ultimate borrowers
and lenders, in part because financial institutions
operating in these markets are not required to bear
the burden of required reserves and some of the other
costs of banking regulation that fall upon domestic
banking enterprises.
The majority of future efforts to impose legal
constraints on the mobility of money and credit either
within the United States or between nations seem to me
likely to be frustrated.

The demand for funds will

exert sufficient pressure to spur financial institutions




- 16 and others to seek innovative means to circumvent
artificial constraints.

Successful restraints on

the mobility of funds appear to me far more likely
to come from the action of interest rates rather
than any efforts at non-price rationing.
This means, unfortunately, that in inflationary
times when both public and private credit demands expand
rapidly and tend to press interest rates higher,
monetary policy will have to bear an unusually heavy
burden.

As funds, drawn by higher interest rates, move

with increasing ease across international boundaries,
they promise to complicate still further our future
efforts at restraining inflation.
Service innovations
Another distinguishable force at work reshaping
the financial system has been the increasing sophisti­
cation of customer demands.

The nature of these demands

has become evident in several ways.

Banks and other

financial institutions have had to face increasingly
affluent and increasingly knowledgeable individual and







- 17 corporate customers who are insisting on a return on
their money, and therefore tending to draw down demand
deposits to minimal working capital needs.

These same

customers are requiring more elaborate and complete
financial services, placing pressure on their financial
suppliers to provide more integrated and convenient
services for a still wider range of customers.
The pressure of these demands has already tended
to blur the once-sharp lines that distinguished some
types of banks from others, or commercial banks in
general from mutual thrift institutions.

While some

degree of specialization appears likely to persist in
the future in response to special public needs, more
and more financial institutions will probably seek to
broaden the services they offer in order to meet those
more complex customer demands of which I have spoken.
The implication of this development is that in
the future we can anticipate that since distinctions
will be more difficult to make among different types
of institutions, and since they will offer similar
arrays of financial instruments, emphasis will tend




- 18 to be placed on the more marked differences among
those instruments.

For example, variable interest-

rate instruments may be offered by many types of
financial institutions.

The difference between a

fixed and a variable rate instrument may thus tend
to become the crucial one, rather than the difference
between the types of institutions that issued them.
The same may come to hold true also of loan arrange­
ments that do or do not involve "equity kickers.”
A major feature of the service innovations
that we are likely to see will be increasing applica­
tions of electronics and computer science.

The

electronic transfer of funds holds, in my view,
major ramifications for the conduct of monetary
policy, for to the extent that payments become
electronic, instantaneous and automatically financed
by transfers out of interest-bearing instruments,
ceases to be a useful aggregate by which to gauge
monetary policy.

In time, M-p made up as it is of

noninterest-bearing currency in circulation and demand




- 19 deposits, may come to play a role similar to that
presently filled by currency, or even by subsidiary
coin.

That is,

may eventually provide a satisfactory

reflection of small routine transactions taking place
in the economy, but it will neither affect nor reflect
dependably the extent of the discretionary spending
that is occurring.

In contrast, the measure of

liquidity most directly related to discretionary
spending may come to be some amalgam of at least all
deposit-type holdings, perhaps plus some fraction of
the immediately convertible debt paper of others, with
possibly even some allowance for the credit lines
immediately available to borrower-spenders.
From the viewpoint of monetary policy makers,
it seems likely that the magnitudes of such monetary
or liquidity aggregates would continue to be important
as ingredients of economic stimulus.

In this environ­

ment, central bank actions would surely need a broader
base in order for monetary policy to maintain some
effectiveness.




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Since a growing variety of interest-bearing deposits
and credit instruments may come to satisfy the
economy's liquidity needs and affect its savingspending decisions, it may become advisable to extend
monetary reserve requirement to more of such instru­
ments as well.

In my view these reserve requirements

could be effective monetarily even if set at a relatively
low percentage level.

As more nonbank institutions

provide credit and deposit-type liabilities to corpo­
rations and consumers alike and come to approximate the
functions of banks, it becomes increasingly inequitable,
as well as decreasingly useful, to rest the full weight
of monetary policy controls on the commercial banks.
A movement toward broader reserve requirements on such
interest-bearing liquidity instruments might eventually
be perceived as both a rational and equitable step to
meet the growing need to strengthen a nation's capacity
to better execute its monetary policy.

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Soundness limits
One of the most painful lessons that financiers
have learned

or relearned —

concerns the need to limit risk.

during the past decade
Time and again a

heady combination of innovative credits or other
services, liberal financial analyses, unconfining
accounting controls, and optimistic assumptions about
the business environment produced unhappy results in
the unexpectedly rough economic weather that ensued.
The financial pages of the world's press have been
sprinkled with stories of individual firm losses as
a result of underestimated financial risk.
Everyone is fortunate that such instances have
been no more frequent than they have.

But the implica­

tion has seemed clear that safeguards against excessive
risk need to be strengthened as a matter of simple
prudence in preparing for the years ahead.

Many

private financial managements have already moved
vigorously in this direction, with particular emphasis
on credit standards, quantity limits and audit controls.




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Public officials charged with bank supervision are
also carefully reviewing their procedures.

In many

facets of the examination and supervision process,
the changes that seemed called for have been straight­
forward and tmcomplicated.

Numerous such changes are

already in place or in process.

In at least two basic

areas of supervisory standards however, the issues
posed are sufficiently complex so that any definitive
reform will have to come more slowly.
A particularly important standard is that
relating to capital adequacy for banks, bank holding
companies and other financial institutions.

Speaking

from my own experience as a bank regulator, we recognize
that our task is to insure that the capital of banking
institutions will be adequate to meet eventualities
that may materialize.

To require too little capital

in banks would create a hazard for the entire financial
system; but to require too much capital would reduce
their efficiency and possibly damage their ability to
compete.

Our analysts are struggling manfully to

develop improved means of judging how much capital is
enough in this altered world.




- 23 The adequacy of liquidity is also a matter
that will be of persisting importance to the soundness
of our financial system.

Recent events have only too

graphically demonstrated the dangers that can arise
when financial institutions fail to make adequate
provision for unanticipated delays of payment, losses
of income, or flights of funds.

But how should

liquidity be judged in advance of the eventuality
for which it is needed?

Here too, regulators need to

clarify standards, and work is pressing ahead in this
area.
Finally, let me say a word about the implications
of these improved standards of soundness of the lenderof-last-resort function of the central banks.

By

reducing the level of risk in financial institutions’
assets and assuring that they maintain adequate capital
and provide appropriate liquidity, regulators can help
to insure that few calls need to be made upon the
central bank as the lender of last resort.

While we

stand ready to assist member banks (and others under
certain exigent conditions) should the need arise,




- 24 it is decidedly in the public interest that this
occur as infrequently as possible.

On the other

hand, the portents of the past decade suggest to
me that there will be enough untoward and emergency
experiences impacting our financial systems for our
central bank lending officers to keep in practice.
Conclusion
What I have said here today expresses my
personal conviction that strong evolutionary forces
have been working, and will continue to work, major
transformations of our financial and banking systems.
I do not believe that public policy-makers in this
field are so powerful as to be able to prevent or to
dominate those forces of change I have described.
Nor are they all-wise enough always to be right in
what they attempt to do.
Rather, I see the policy-maker's role as one
of attempting to enable constructive change to take
place in the financial system in response to, and
within the constraints imposed by, public demand.







- 25 It is a particularly challenging and sometimes
frustrating job, for it requires us to foster as
best we can an environment conducive to desirable
change, while at the same time acting to moderate
the attendant shocks and to prune those inevitable
offshoots of change that threaten to be financially
or socially destructive.

To perform this often

delicate balancing act well requires more than
ability and ingenuity.

It demands that we look beyond

the confines of the current environment to the possible
longer-term ramifications of our actions, and it impels
us to act always in the light of our best assessment of
what the future may bring.

Our overriding obligation

is to do what we can within our limited ability to
insure that the transition from yesterday to tomorrow
will be orderly, equitable and sound.

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