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Remarks by
Ricki Heifer
Chairman
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
before the
Florida Bankers Association
Palm Beach, Florida
June 16, 1995

Many of you, I am sure, know my Deputy for Policy, Leslie
Woolley. Before joining me last year, Leslie worked for seven
years as Legislative Director for your U.S. Senator Bob Graham.
When I asked her why she wanted to be my deputy for policy,
Leslie told me of the time a reporter approached Will Rogers
during the First World War. The cause of U.S. entry into that
war — they used to tell us in high school — was that German
submarines were sinking American shipping without warning.
The reporter asked Rogers:
German submarine problem?"

"What should we do about the

Rogers answered: "I recommend that we drain the oceans and
send the cavalry out to round up the submarine crews."
Smelling a story, the reporter got excited.
are we going to drain the oceans?"
Rogers replied:

He asked:

"How

"Son, I'm in policy, not in operations."

Policy often requires creative thinking.
Given our system of government — how decisions are
developed through deliberation — policy making also often
requires persistence.
The late C. C. Hope — banker, industry leader, director of
the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and a good friend to
many of us here today — once told a marvelous story to
illustrate the meaning of persistence. During the Civil War, or
as some people down here say, "The War Between the States," the
Union ran a prisoner-of-war camp in the wilds of northern
Michigan. No one escaped from the camp — ever. In 1863, one of
the prisoners began taunting the guards at every opportunity with
the words: "General Bragg sure whupped your boys at Chickamauga"
— the battle having recently occurred.




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This went on for several weeks.
The Union colonel who ran the camp tried to ignore the
taunting, but it soon had the effect of raising the morale of the
prisoners while lowering the morale of the guards — the last
thing in the world the colonel wanted — so he called the
Confederate in and gave him a choice. If he took the oath of
loyalty to the Union, he would be released and transported South.
If he did not, he would spend the duration of the war in solitary
conf inement.
The Confederate thought hard for a moment and replied:
"I'll take the oath."
The Union colonel smiled and administered it.
When it was over, he said to the former-confederate:
wasn't so bad, was it?”

"That

"No, sir,” was the reply, "it wasn't."
"Permission to speak freely, sir," the former-confederate
requested.
"Permission granted," the Union colonel said kindly.
"Ain't it sad," said the former Confederate, "how General
Bragg whupped our boys at Chickamauga?"
I am one of those people who considers persistence a virtue.
So — at the risk of sounding like that Confederate soldier — I
want to discuss an issue I have raised a few times before. I
came here today to talk with you about the problem of the Savings
Association Insurance Fund (SAIF), which, as you know, is managed
by the FDIC.
Some people have taken the position that no problem exists.
That conclusion rests on optimistic assumptions — but in the
view of a bank regulator who, after all, is paid to worry about
the future, optimism must be tempered by a range of possible
outcomes that are not so optimistic.
Some bankers have taken the position that there is a problem
— but it cannot be addressed until the banks get lower deposit
insurance premiums. I support significantly lower insurance
premiums for banks. That is a separate issue and will be
considered by the FDIC Board following its normal administrative
procedures for reviewing the 3,200-plus comments we have received
on the Board's insurance premium proposals. The comment period
closed April 17 and we were still receiving comments on May 25.




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Our most recent analysis shows that, as of March 31st, the
Bank Insurance Fund (BIF) had a balance of $23.2 billion, with an
estimated reserve ratio of 1.22 of insured deposits. We expect
the BIF to recapitalize during this quarter, although we cannot
confirm the actual number — as required by law — until
September, because about 7,000 banks file call reports in paper
form. We are taking pains in our consideration of our insurance
premium proposals to make sure that, in significantly lowering
bank insurance premiums — an action I strongly support — we do
it right.
Such an effort assures that there is no basis for challenge
either in the courts or by the General Accounting Office — the
audit arm of Congress — to the final premium schedule the FDIC
Board will adopt.
In the meantime, the clock is ticking on the SAIF problem.
Bankers are not insulated from that problem because it is an FDIC
problem.
Stated simply the problem is this: Although the BIF is in
good condition and its prospects appear favorable, SAIF is not in
good condition and its prospects are not favorable. There are
three parts to this problem.
Part one: The SAIF is significantly underfunded. As of
March 31 of this year, the SAIF had a balance of $2.2 billion, or
31 cents in reserves for every $100 in insured deposits. Under
current conditions and reasonably optimistic assumptions, the
SAIF would not reach $1.25 in reserves for every $100 in deposits
until at least the year 2002.
Part two: SAIF assessments have been — and continue to be
— diverted to purposes other than the fund. Of the $9.3 billion
in SAIF assessment revenue received from 1989 to 1994, a total of
$7 billion has been diverted to pay off obligations from thrift
failures in the 1980s. Without these diversions, the SAIF would
have reached the reserve target of 1.25 in 1994 — before the BIF
hit the target, in fact. Most of the money was diverted to pay
interest on bonds issued by the Financing Corporation, or FICO.
The FICO claim will remain as an impediment to SAIF funding for
24 years to come. SAIF assessment revenue currently amounts to
just over $1.7 billion a year and FICO interest payments run $779
million a year, or about 45 percent of all SAIF assessments
annually.
Part three of the SAIF problem: The SAIF will assume
responsibility for resolving failed thrifts after June 30 of this
year. Given the underfunding of SAIF, significant insurance
losses in the near-term could render the SAIF insolvent ^and put
the taxpayer at risk. One large or several sizable thrift
failures could bankrupt the fund. Although such losses are not




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currently predicted, they are possible, unless one looks only at
optimistic scenarios.
The outlook for the SAIF is further complicated by the fact
that the law limits SAIF assessments that can be used for FICO
payments to assessments on insured institutions that are both
savings associations and SAIF members. Because assessment
revenue from institutions that do not meet both tests cannot be
used to meet debt service on FICO bonds, more than 33 percent of
SAIF-insured deposits were unavailable to meet FICO payments as
of March 31.
At current assessment rates, an assessment base of $325
billion is required to generate revenue sufficient to service the
FICO interest payments. The base available to FICO as of March
31 stood at $485 billion. The difference of $160 billion can be
thought of as a cushion that protects against a default on the
FICO bonds. If there is minimal shrinkage in the FICO assessment
base — 2 percent — a FICO shortfall occurs in 2002. If
shrinkage increases —— for whatever reason, including efforts by
thrift institutions to leave the SAIF — the shortfall could
occur much earlier.
If the SAIF were to approach insolvency, the erosion of the
SAIF assessment base would likely accelerate. Strong
institutions would want to distance themselves from a
demonstrably weak insurance fund. If assessments were increased,
the incentive to leave would be even greater than it is now.
What happens if the SAIF becomes insolvent?
Deposit insurance is a fundamental part of the financial
industry safety net. Deposit insurance is designed — not to
isolate individual institutions from the rigors of competition —
but to stabilize markets and protect the system in general. As
part of this larger safety net, the deposit insurance system not
only protects individual depositors but serves to buttress the
banking and thrift industries during times of stress by
substantially eliminating the incentives for depositors to engage
in runs on banks.
The deposit insurance system and the other components of the
financial industry safety net rest ultimately on confidence — on
the belief that the full faith and credit of the government
support the safety net.
Confidence in governments backing for the safety net was a
major reason that the financial troubles of the 1980s and early
1990s did not lead to widespread panic and economic disarray.
That confidence could be damaged if government is perceived
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safety net. That confidence can be shaken, if government is seen
as willing to deal only half-heartedly with a problem. Indeed,
the FICO bond arrangement that is now so much a part of the
SAIF's problem was an element of earlier solutions to the S&L
crisis that did not go far enough
putting off until tomorrow
what should have been addressed yesterday. If the FICO bonds run
into trouble or default, confidence in the ability of government
to solve financial problems in the future will be lessened — and
solutions, therefore, will be more costly for all of us. If
default occurs on the FICO bonds, the immediate effect would be
that investors holding the bonds would sustain losses.
The more widespread effect could include downward pressure
on the prices of securities issued by government-sponsored
enterprises such as Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Farmer Mac, and
Sallie Mae, as well as upward pressure on the interest rates on
these obligations. A default could also add to the cost of bank
capital if the obligations of government-sponsored enterprises
were to carry higher risk weights under risk-based capital
standards.
As we have seen again and again, the government's early,
half-hearted efforts in addressing the S&L crisis, such as the
inadequate $10 billion authorized in 1987 to recapitalize the
Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation, or FSLIC,
invariably ended up costing more than a comprehensive solution to
the problem would have cost.
The current difficulties of the SAIF pose the danger of such
an approach. As I noted earlier, the SAIF problem has three
parts: the fund's undercapitalized condition; the drain of the
FICO interest obligation; and the looming transfer of
responsibility for resolving failed thrifts to the SAIF
that
is to say, the FDIC — after June 30. Because they have
immediate consequences, the last two problems might seem to
warrant higher priorities than the first.
This conclusion is incorrect.
Experience with underfunded state deposit insurance funds in
Maryland, Ohio, and Rhode Island, and with the underfunded FSLIC,
shows that permitting an insurance fund to limp along in an
undercapitalized condition is an invitation to much greater
difficulties. Regulators and legislators in the past have become
paralyzed when large or visible institutions insured by a grossly
weakened fund began to falter. Fear of runs on deposits has
inhibited action. Because of an insurance fund's weak financial
condition, failed institutions have been handled in a manner that
minimizes or defers cash outlays, but ultimately increases costs.
Stronger institutions look for greener pastures unmarred by
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take corrective actions allows the problems to worsen.
Consequently, all three of the difficulties facing the SAIF —
its undercapitalized condition, and the resulting BIF-SAIF
premium disparity, which could lead to a weaker SAIF because of
fleeing members; the drain of the FICO interest obligation; and
the need to resolve thrift failures after June 30 — demand
consideration in a solution.
The SAIF, the BIF, and the FDIC are distinguishable to only
a small segment of the population. To most, only one acronym —
"FDIC” — makes a difference. Bank customers and thrift
customers do not know the difference between BIF and SAIF.
Indeed, Congress insisted that the SAIF become ”FDIC-insured”
precisely to assure confidence in its future.
The failure of the SAIF would undermine the confidence
Americans have in the FDIC as a source of stability for the
financial system and would call into question the government
safety net for financial institutions.
The BIF borrowed from the U.S. Treasury when its balance
went below zero, but those borrowings were ultimately repaid with
interest.
Bankers benefit from this safety net and, therefore, have a
direct stake in the effort to find a solution to the SAIF's weak
condition.
The FDIC Board must be concerned that, when SAIF steps up to
the plate on June 30 to begin paying for the losses from the
thrift failures, it will have two strikes against it. The first
strike is the undercapitalization of the fund and the second is
the drain from the FICO bonds. We cannot help but be concerned
when one unexpected large thrift failure, or several sizable
unexpected failures, could bankrupt the fund. We are not
predicting such failures now, but they could happen.
Over the last several weeks, there has been the beginning of
a consensus in Washington on how to address the issue of the
undercapitalization of the SAIF. It is simply this: The members
of the SAIF may have to take responsibility for capitalizing
their fund. That would cost in the neighborhood of $6 billion.
Thrift institutions here will not be pleased by this prospect.
It is not just in the FDIC's interest that the SAIF be fully
capitalized — it is in the interest of the thrifts and in the
interest of a stable financial system.
Congress, of course, will make the final decisions on how
the problem of SAIF is resolved. As you know, three sources of
revenue have been widely discussed in the press and in Congress:
the taxpayers, the thrifts, and the banks. While other financial
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problem, only bank and thrift deposits are FDIC insured, and that
seems to be the distinction that many are making.
In the last several weeks, more lawmakers have told us that
it is less and less likely that taxpayer funds will be available
to replenish the SAIF — that is the reason for the growing
consensus that thrifts must replenish their fund. At the same
time, more and more lawmakers are saying that taxpayer funds will
be unavailable to meet the debt service on FICO bonds as well.
I cannot help but think that the lawmakers would be more
willing to leave taxpayer money on the table if some people in
the banking industry had not made a point of saying that there is
no problem today with the SAIF — and no need, therefore, for
taxpayer funds.
What if we wait for a serious crisis to develop — in two or
three years, perhaps — before we take action? The SAIF
assessment base shrinks — from failures; or from institutions
switching funds to avoid higher premium costs or switching funds
to escape a contracting, more concentrated insurance fund; or all
of these reasons. What happens then? A merger of the two funds
becomes compelling.
I have to date opposed such a merger because BIF-members
would have to carry the full costs of stabilizing the situation - costs today in excess of $15 billion. If we wait two or three
years to address the situation, there will be no residual
Resolution Trust Corporation (RTC) funds even to discuss and the
BIF reserve ratio may be diluted by institutions switching from
the SAIF. Under that scenario, BIF could end up bearing all the
costs. That would be not only unfair, it would also add more
than two years to the period when banks could otherwise pass
premium savings on to their customers.
It is important to remember that the SAIF carries the full
faith and credit guarantee of the U.S. government. I am
sympathetic to the concerns of Congress about turning to the
taxpayers, but the availability of taxpayer funds to backstop an
overall, immediate solution to the SAIF problem may, in fact,
save taxpayers money by assuring that this problem is not allowed
to worsen. I think we all benefit from solving the SAIF problem:
the FDIC, the banks, the thrifts, their customers and the
financial system.




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