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Remarks
by
Ricki R. Tigert
Chairman
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation

Before the
Conference of State Bank Supervisors
and
National Conference of State Legislators

Washington, D.C.
December 14, 1994

It is always a pleasure for any Chairman of the Federal
Deposit Insurance Corporation to speak before a meeting sponsored
by the Conference of State Bank Supervisors -- as history shows.
I

am also pleased to see so many state legislators here at

this joint meeting co-sponsored by the National Conference of
State Legislators.
Today I want to talk about the issue of state and federal
banking regulation from a broad perspective.
In banking and bank supervision, the past is alive in a way
that we rarely find in other businesses and government
activities.

The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency is a

relic of the Civil War.




The Federal Reserve System still has as
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its primary mission providing the economy with the "elastic"
monetary supply the Congress desired when it created the central
bank in 1913 in response to financial panics around the turn of
the century.

And -- every day -- the F.D.I.C. underwrites public

confidence in the financial system, just as Congress intended
when it created us 61 years ago - - b y popular demand -- in
response to the bank failures of the 1920s and the 1930s.
The past lives on in other ways, too.
One way is in the close relationship between state bank
supervisors and the F.D.I.C. -- a relationship created and
nurtured by the second F.D.I.C. Chairman, Leo T. Crowley.
:

Fifty-four years ago, the then-Washington correspondent for

The American Banker. U.V. Wilcox, published an insider's look at
banking politics in the 1930s titled:

The Bankers Be Damned.

The title was not a prescription, I hasten to say, but a capsule
narrative of the book, which all of you would find interesting,
to say the least.
In it, Wilcox noted:

"The State Supervisors are, in the

main, the visible representatives of that largely forgotten
political thesis of states rights."
The federal deposit insurance law, Wilcox said, "practically
eliminated the need for state superintendents" -- but Chairman
Crowley announced that the executive committee of the state
supervisors would become, in effect, his advisory committee.
In fact, Wilcox wrote:

Leo T. Crowley "is best exemplified

in his aiding and abetting a national organization of the State




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Supervisors."
Chairman Crowley -- a giant in his time -- established the
spirit in which we -- the state supervisors and the F.D.I.C. -work today.
The C.S.B.S. and the F.D.I.C. have a special working
relationship, and one that I hope to enhance.
As Chairman of the Federal Financial Institutions
Examination Council, I will look to the state liaison committee
to participate fully as advisors in council meetings, thus
providing us with an avenue for state-federal cooperation.
Harold Lee, from Wisconsin; Gavin Gee, from Idaho; James Hansen,
from Nebraska; Catherine Ghiglieri, from Texas; and Sue Mecca,
from Wyoming will bring the views of the states to our meetings
and will work with F.F.I.E.C. staff committees.
As many of you know, recent federal legislation -- The
Community Development and Regulatory Improvement Act -- called on
the F.F.I.E.C. and the federal regulators to coordinate a number
of tasks involved in implementing the law.

Through the

F.F.I.E.C., we have a mechanism in place for states to be a part
of. this effort.

The states are represented on the task force

overseeing the projects and we will be looking for ways for the
states to participate on the actual groups doing the work -again, reflecting our commitment that the states have the
opportunity to play a meaningful role in the process.
I am equally committed to working with state regulators as
F.D.I.C. Chairman.




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For example, we are forming an F.D.I.C. Task Force on
Interstate Banking to examine the strategic issues that arise
from the recent changes in Federal law.

I have assured C.S.B.S.

that we want to coordinate with the state bank supervisors and
the C.S.B.S. on your projects in this area.
"Further, I note that we have been working with the Federal
Reserve and the states to come up with a coordinated approach to
examining the U.S. operations of foreign banks, an effort called
for by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Improvement Act.
Recently, the FDIC joined the Fed, C.S.B.S., the Office of the
Comptroller of the Currency, and state commissioners on a
nationwide tour —

four cities in four days

to explain our

coordinated effort in this area to more than 1,000 bankers.
The working relationship between the F.D.I.C. and state
regulators is a good one in bank supervision as well -coordinating examinations at state chartered banks

as I have

heard from F.D.I.C. directors of supervision on my visits to
seven regional offices of the F.D.I.C. in the past two months.
While it is always a pleasure for any Chairman of the
F.D.I.C. to speak before a meeting sponsored by the C.S.B.S., it
is a special pleasure for m£.
One reason is that, during my seven years at the Federal
Reserve, I worked with state authorities -- particularly those in
New York and other states actively involved in international
banking issues -- and in doing so I developed an appreciation for
the depth of expertise the states enjoy.




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A second reason arises from the historical vision of the
F.D.I.C. -- a vision that goes back to the beginning of our
organization as a deposit insurer and as primary regulator of
state nonmember banks.
As I said, earlier in my career I was fortunate to spend
several years at the Fed.

The Fed, as you know, has tremendous

credibility -- and for good reason.
in every sense of the term.

It is an independent agency

Decisions at the Fed are based --

not on expedience -- but on expertise and experience.

Those

decisions are made impartially -- to borrow a phrase "without
fear or favor" -- for the benefit of the country as a whole.

As

I witnessed the Fed at work in calm and in crisis, I came to
understand that institutions, like individuals, have to earn
respect, and the only way to earn respect is to play straight.
The Fed receives the support that it does because it is known to
play straight.

It cannot operate without that support.

As you know and I know, the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation plays it straight, as well.

After the banking crisis

of the 1930s, its independence was of small concern.

The

insurance assessments went out, the money came in, and, on rare
occasions, banks failed.

Year after year, the fund grew -- and

stability in banking meant stability at, and generally quiet for,
the F.D.I.C.
Then the world changed.

The failure of Penn Square Bank,

the eruption of the developing country debt crisis, and lending
problems in the agricultural sector, oil and gas, and real estate




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revealed cracks -- and connections -- in the financial system
that had not been obvious before.

They heralded the beginning of

a decade of instability in banking - - a decade in which the
F.D.I.C.'s independence was tested, but not compromised.

That

independence was, in fact, solidified. Congress has made it
absolutely clear that it intended for the F.D.I.C. to have the
necessary power to protect the Bank Insurance Fund -- and by
extension, the American taxpayer -- from the kinds of losses that
depleted it -- and that decimated the savings and loan fund - - i n
the 1980s.
Over the last three years the Bank Insurance Fund has been
restored by the banks themselves.

We have seen stability

restored.
Banking has entered a time of rebuilding and renewal.
Financial statements picture banking today as stronger than it
has been in decades -- and growing stronger.

At the same time,

we have seen banking enter a time of entrepreneurship and
transformation as banks explore new businesses.
Given the good news and innovation, it is easy to lose sight
of the fact that banking today remains what it always was -- the
business of managing financial risk.
because risks change.

Management is necessary

If banks manage that risk well, they make

money -— if they do not manage it well, they may lose money.

If

banks mismanage risk, others may lose money, including the Bank
Insurance Fund.
As the trustee for the insurance funds -- a unique role in




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our regulatory structure -- the F.D.I.C. is, in effect, the
guardian of the nation's bank and thrift deposits.
Before the banking crisis of the 1980s, that seemed not to
be such a big deal. A friend of mine came to Washington to work
as a banking reporter in the late 1970s.

About his third week on

the job, he learned that the F.D.I.C. rebated premiums to banks.
He asked his bureau chief, a financial writer with more than 25
years experience in journalism, if rebates were a good idea.
The bureau chief responded:

"There are nine billion dollars

in the deposit insurance fund -- given the way banks are
regulated today, it is inconceivable that anything that could
happen to banking would cost that much money."
Unfortunately, the 1980s proved that reasoning wrong.
In light of recent experience, our guardianship role is a
big deal, indeed.
We have a number of constituencies.

Among them are:

the

financial institutions that fund deposit insurance; the Congress,
which created us and sees us as protector of the taxpayer; and
the general public, which sees us as guarantor of their savings.
To retain the trust and support of our constituencies, we at
the F.D.I.C. must play it straight -- we must make unbiased
assessments of risk in the financial system and act upon them -without fear or favor.

Independence gives us legitimacy -- the

legitimacy to make difficult decisions.
The integrity of the insurance funds rests ultimately on the
integrity of the people who manage them and who assess the risks




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in the financial system to which the funds are exposed. Whether
intentional or unintentional, whether through machination or
legislation, attempts to compromise our independence are
necessarily attempts to compromise the F.D.I.C's ability to do
its job.
In past months, we have seen efforts to make the structure
of federal bank supervision more "rational" by consolidating
regulatory authorities and ending overlap and duplication.
hard to argue against the general concept.

It is

Efficiency --

economic and otherwise -- is as virtuous a goal in government as
elsewhere.
This quest for greater efficiency, however, must preserve
the independence of the F.D.I.C. to identify the risks to the
system as it sees them —

and that requires continuing authority

to conduct on-site bank examinations.

It also must preserve the

insurance funds from appropriation for other uses and it must
assure a dual banking system in fact as well as in word.
Otherwise, the quest for efficiency really becomes a quest for
regulatory uniformity and expedient funding.
: Just what would that mean?
, _ ..id I have a few thoughts.
If the past is prologue to the future, stripping the
F.D.I.C. of the tools it needs to protect the insurance fund
could have dangerous consequences.

Upsetting the current system

of checks and balances means that we as the insurer could be
writing more checks and could be carrying lower balances.




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Using the insurance funds for any purpose other than
insuring deposits would drain them —

sooner rather than later.

In government, there is always a funding need compelling to
someone.
Lastly, if the federal government were to threaten the dual
banking system by the form that federal regulation takes, the
proving grounds that states have become in financial services
would become far less flexible than they have been.
State authorities were responsible for many "firsts" in bank
regulation:
In the United States, state banks acting under state
authority established the first branches.
State banks were the ones first authorized to offer
fiduciary services to customers.
Most recently, had it not been for state compacts, it is
unlikely that the impasse on interstate banking -- the subject of
this meeting -- would have ever been broken.
The states showed the way.
Moreover, as another one of my predecessors, Frank Wille,
former Chairman of the F.D.I.C., said so eloquently almost 20
years ago:

"Without new ideas, persistently applied, nurtured

and absorbed, any bureaucracy can go through an ossification
process just like the petrified forests that long ago stopped
producing living trees.

This hasn't happened in bank regulation

-- or at least not for long —

largely because the number of

regulators is so large and the possibility of switching




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regulators is so widely recognized that new ideas, sooner or
later, will have to be considered by even the most resistant of
regulatory authorities."
If we have, in effect, one federal regulator for all, we
increase the chances that bank regulation will cease to evolve
and will cease to be flexible in times of crisis.
We can deal, in large part, with the issue of overlapping
jurisdictions at the federal and state levels through greater
interagency coordination -- which is what I am striving for as
Chairman of the F.D.I.C.
Some people think -- or say that they think -- that there is
no future for the dual banking system, regardless of what is
done.

They think -- or say that they think -- that technology

has. made state jurisdictions irrelevant in the financial world.
The most exuberant of these people say national jurisdictions are
irrelevant, too.
Political jurisdictions, however, are frequently arbitrary.
We create them to serve a purpose. As long as they are serving
their purpose, political jurisdictions are just as real as
mountain ranges and other boundaries.
As I have outlined, the dual banking system serves a number
of purposes -- and it should be preserved.
In The Bankers Be Damned. Wilcox argued that the dual
banking system could have ended 60 years ago because the deposit
insurance law "could be used by a despotic individual to override
and eliminate any and all local bank supervision."




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He wrote:

"Popular forces in Washington would have

applauded a wider translation of this law, in order to tie the
state banks with cables of Federal authority."
That didn't happen, he concluded, because Chairman Leo
Crowley valued and supported the dual banking system.
Just as I and my colleagues at the F.D.I.C. value and
support it today.
Thank you.




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