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For release on delivery
9:30 A.M., E.D.T.
July 9, 1985

Statement by
Paul A. Volcker
Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System




before the
Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy
of the
Committee on Banking, Finance and Urban Affairs
House of Representataives

July 9, 1985

I appreciate this opportunity to present the views of
the Federal Reserve on regulation of the market for Treasury
and federally sponsored agency securities*

My remarks will be

relatively brief, Mr* Chairman, because your Subcommittee is
already well informed about the developments that have prompted
consideration of the need for formal regulation of these markets.
Indeed, you and your colleagues have played a leading and very
valuable role through the years in exploring the difficulties
that have arisen in these markets and the efforts of the Federal
Reserve and others to deal with them.
Recently, in testimony before another Subcommittee of
the House, I set forth the basic position of the Federal Reserve
on the need for regulation of the market for Treasury securities.
We have concluded that legislation providing for registration,
inspection and JJjnj*i^j|d regulation of government security dealers
would be desirable.
in arriving at this conclusion, we have noted the recent
problems have not substantially affected the core of the government




securities market —

that is, dealers accounting for the bulk

of trading activity and market-making and participating regularly
in the distribution of new Treasury securities.

The market has

continued to function with a high degree of efficiency and liquidity,
We also recognize that any regulation inevitably involves
additional costs for at least some of the participants in the
market.

However, we believe that legislation can and should be

framed in a manner to avoid unnecessary detailed and costly
regulation and supervision -- that the mandate given to the
regulatory body or bodies should provide only limited powers
directly related to protecting the integrity of transactions
in the market.
Moreover, as depositors and taxpayers in Ohio and Maryland
can attest, there have been considerable costs growing cut of
recent market weaknesses, extending even beyond losses to the
parties directly involved in government securities transactions.
While regulation will not and can not avoid all potential losses




-3from fraud or otherwise, we do believe registration, inspection,
and some regulation could help reduce the risks to third parties.
In our view, any structure of regulation for the Treasury
market should embody — a n d

be confined to —

three principal

elements.
First, it should provide for registration of dealers and
for authority to bar or limit the participation of those who,
through violations of securities laws or otherwise, have
clearly demonstrated that they should not be allowed to occupy
a position of trust in the government securities markets.

While

a registration requirement can raise difficult issues, including
the necessity to define a dealer, it is important that those who
have been disciplined in other markets not be allowed to find
refuge in trading government securities —

the very securities

investors turn to for assurance of relative safety and liquidity.
Second, registration implies the need for certain minimum
guidelines for record-keeping and auditing so that continued
adherence to the standards established for registered dealers




-4can be monitored*

To assure the adequacy of these reports and

conformance to standards, legislation should include the authority
to inspect registered dealers on a regular basis and when problems
are suspected.
Finally, there should be some mechanism for writing and
enforcing rules to foster the financial soundness of government
securities dealers and to encourage, in a limited area, market
practices consistent with the safety and efficiency of the market.
Obvious cases in point are guidelines with respect to capital
and such practices as the collateralization of RPs.

Legislation

might permit regulation of certain other practices —

such as

appropriate margins or when-issued trading, if needed —

but

authority should be confined to areas that involve a direct
threat to the integrity of the marketplace.
Let me underline this last point.

The potential costs

of highly detailed and expansive regulations are real.
Preserving the extraordinary liquidity and resiliency of this
market is essential to the conduct of monetary policy and the




-5management of the public debt.

Official intrusion into this

market beyond that considered absolutely essential to promote
its safety and soundness —

for examplef imposing on this market

the degree of regulation characteristic of other securities
markets —

is unnecessary and could impair its basic efficiency

and liquidity.

Within the limited framework we would propose,

costs of regulation would be quite modest relative to the size
of the market, and regulation could reinforce the performance
of, and confidence in, the market.
The framework we have in mind for regulation could be
implemented through a number of different administrative
structures to deploy effectively the expertise of the relevant
regulatory bodies in the process of registration, supervision,
and regulation.

One such approach is embodied in the joint

proposal developed by the Treasury, Securities and Exchange
Commission, and Federal Reserve.

That proposal, as you know,

provides for registration with the Treasury (or with the SEC,
if the preference of that agency were to be adopted), basic




-6rulemaking authority by the Treasury in consultation with
the Federal Reserve, and enforcement by banking agencies
or by existing self-regulatory organizations (SRO) under SEC
supervision, depending on whether the dealer firm is a bank
or nonbank.

That proposal encompasses all the elements we

consider necessary, including limitation on the scope of
regulation.

Properly implemented, with ample consultation

between the Federal Reserve and the Treasury, we would find
this approach acceptable.
The two bills under specific consideration by this Subcommittee -- H.R. 2521 and H.R. 1896 —

embody other approaches*

Although there are large differences between the two bills in
the scope of regulation, both would center the responsibility
for registration and regulation in the Federal Reserve.
The Federal Reserve does have a strong interest in seeing
that the job of overseeing the government securities market is
done well, that the integrity of the marketplace is reinforced,
and that regulation not be unduly burdensome.




Reflecting those

interests, we expect to continue to play a key role in
surveillance of the primary dealers with whom we trade.
We would also want to work closely with those responsible
for registration and rule-making authority generally*

We

have not felt it necessary or sought, however, to have these
latter responsibilities directly under our authority*

Alter-

native arrangements would be consistent with the requirements
as we see them*
For instance, an alternative arrangement to the "joint
proposal" with some appeal would fit regulation and oversight
within a framework of a new SRO for dealers in Treasury and
federally sponsored agency issues.

The SRO approach would

involve directly in the rule-making process those with the
fullest knowledge of market practices and the most intense
interest in minimizing the burden of regulation.

The mandate

for rule-writing provided such an SRO should be carefully
prescribed and limited.

The SRO would, of course, need to

report to, and be subject to the jurisdiction of, a federal




-8agency or some combination of agencies.

We believe we should

participate in that oversight process.
Your billf Mr. Chairman, H.R. 2521, captures some of the
advantages of this approach by creating an advisory council to
work with the Federal Reserve, although the council would have
no legal responsibility for rulexnaking*

If rulemaking were in

any event narrowly circumscribed by law, an advisory council
might serve as an alternative to an SRO.
The bill introduced by Congressmen Dingell and Wirth
simply transformed an existing SRO, the Municipal Securities
Rulemaking Board (MSRB), by providing it authority over the
entire government market.
the two markets —
so different*

We have opposed this proposal because

for federal and municipal securities —

are

The authority of the MSRB is considerably broader

in scope than we view as necessary, growing cut of the regulatory
needs of a market with a large number of small issuers, a multiplicity of issues and financing techniques, and small investors*
At the same time, the MSRB has no, or little, experience with




-9one of the principal problems in the Treasury market,
collateralization of repurchase agreements, since that
instrument is not so widely employed in the municipal market.
In addition, we question whether the SEC, acting alone, as
provided for in the Dingell-Wirth bill, is the most suitable
agency for exercising ultimate oversight for the Treasury and
sponsored agency market.
With respect to the specific provisions of H.R. 1896 and
H.R. 2521, we can see problems with each.

The former is too

sweeping; it simply grants the Federal Reserve Board authority
to regulate government securities dealers without specifying
the nature of that regulation or its purpose.

As I stated

before, in our view any regulatory authority over this market
given to any agency should be strictly limited to those market
practices that threaten the integrity of the market.
Your bill, Mr. Chairman, is in some respects too narrow.
For one, regulation of trading practices appears to be limited
to segregation of customer securities and delivery of collateral.



-10These may be the most obvious issues now facing the marketf but
I would hesitate to rule out the possibility of problems emerging
in other areas.

It is for this reason that I would include authority

to regulate when-issued trading, and to set margin requirements/
with the clear understanding that such authority would not be
used unless needed to deal with practices that posed clear
threats to the integrity and efficient functioning of the market*
In additionf rules promulgated by the Federal Reserve
under your structure would apply only to nonbank, nonregistered
nonprimary dealers.

Apparently depository institutions and

dealers registered with other agencies would be subject to
rules of those agencies.

But we think the basic rules

governing dealer behavior should be applicable, in their
essentials, to all dealers.

It would seem to us most practical

in that context to vest the basic rule-making authority for
the dealer market in one federal authority (whether a single
agency or some combination).




-11H.R. 2521 seems to rely on the Federal Reserve to
inspect the nonbank secondary dealers, rather than an existing
SRO.

No matter which authority registers these dealers or

writes the rules for their trading practices, I believe routine
enforcement could more efficiently be conducted through existing
channels•

That could be accomplished by having nonbank dealers

who are not otherwise registered be inspected by the National
Association of Securities Dealers.
In any event, as I have mentioned, we feel it necessary
and appropriate to continue our surveillance of all primary
dealers through the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

I do

not believe we need any new or special legislative base for
that effort.
We will continue to insist that primary dealers play
an active role in Treasury financing operations and will
continue to collect data from them that we need on a regular
and frequent basis.




And we would anticipate that they will

-12continue to meet high financial standardsf even beyond those
required of other dealers.
In conclusion, Mr, Chairman, the Federal Reserve supports
legislation providing for registration, inspection, and limited
regulation of dealers in government and sponsored-agency securities,
For the reasons indicated, I do not believe the provisions of
either H,R. 2521 or H.R. 1896, as drafted, provide a wholly
appropriate framework for such regulation.
We do find the joint Treasury-SEC-Federal Reserve plan
acceptable for these purposes.

At the same time, we do not

exclude the possibility that other regulatory structures could
work as well, or even better.
We would, of course, be glad to work further with the
Subcommittee in developing these concepts into appropriate
legislation.




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