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vr November 2 9 f 1984

Remarks by
Paul A. Volcker
Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System




before the
American Swiss Association
New York, New York

November 29, 1984

It's a particular honor and delight for me to receive
your award today.

Central bankers, even more than others,

are bound to admire and respect the success of the Swiss
both in maintaining so large a measure of monetary and
economic stability internally over the years and in
contributing so importantly to world financial affairs.
What a demonstration of the tangible benefits of financial
discipline and common sense Switzerland isl
I am tempted to hypothesize that Swiss success reflects
the fact that Switzerland maintains a strong and independent
central bank.
Now, I'm not about to reject that thought entirely.
But I am ready to acknowledge that something even deeper
may be at work as well —

a matter of national character

and experience and enlightened self interest of those
living in what is, after all, a small country poorly endowed
with natural resources.
The career of my good friend Fritz Leutwiler, who
will soon be retiring from his responsibilities at both the
Swiss National Bank and the Bank for International Settlements,
has been squarely in the Swiss financial traditionsf and he
has brilliantly added to it.

All of us in other countries

who have worked closely with him during these turbulent
recent years are bound to sorely miss his practical leadership
and wise counsel.

In no area will that be more true than

in dealing with the continuing problems of international debt.




-2Fritz brought to the days of crisis from the earliest
tremors in Eastern Europe an understanding, a willingness
to act and to leadf and a personal influence that were
indispensable to managing the situation.
far from complete —
years*

That job is still

by its nature it will be the work of

But I also think it is fair to say that today, for

all the obstacles still ahead, we can see that the earlier
sense of hopelessness expressed by some is plainly not
justified, that the main avenues to success can be more
clearly identified and are more broadly understood, and
that strong cooperative efforts by borrowers and lenders
alike can be elicited, in their mutual interest, to help
manage the situation.
Before substantiating those points, a sense of the
origins and nature of the problem seems to me essential.
It's often explained in terms of specific events —

the

successive oil crises, the impact of historically high
interest rates in the early 1980's, coinciding in part with
a prolonged recession, and errors by lenders or in
economic managment by particular borrowers.

Obviously,

those particular events and circumstances were significant.
But there have been broader forces and attitudes at work.
The international debt problem —

important as it is

quantitatively and in terms of its impact on so many countries,
so many people, and so many financial institutions —
only one symptom of a larger challenge:




is

a transition from

-3a highly inflationary environment to restoration of the
financial underpinning of sustained, non-inflationary growth.
Bank lending to a whole tier of important developing
countries —

those moving rapidly toward industrialization

—

got its initial strong impetus in the early 1970's when the
first oil crisis greatly added to financing needs at a time
when strong growth patterns and rising commodity prices had
greatly improved confidence in the basic outlook of the
borrowing countries.

The ability of the banking system to

respond flexibly and vigorously to those needs itself
reinforced confidence.

But the exponential further rise in

bank lending through the 1970's, and the second 1979-80 oil
crisis, can only be fully explained, in my judgment, in the
context of other, more fundamental, developments and attitudes.
There was a common perception of continuing and even accelerating
inflation and exceptionally low real interest rates, a
sense that governments would nonetheless be able and willing
to maintain relatively strong growth in the world as a
whole, and an implicit assumption that the kind of financial
crises experienced by our fathers and grandfathers were
more a relic of history than a future threat.
So long as new loans flowed freely, rapid growth could
be maintained in many developing countries, and inflation seemed
to wash away much of the increased debt burden.

It was

also true that both interest payments and debt maturities
were, in effect, being made only with the proceeds of new




-4loans.

That is not f in itselff an unusual or necessarily

disturbing circumstance —

it isr in factf a normal part of

the growth cycle for a company or country.

But it is sustainable

only when the debt is maintained, and seen to be maintained,
in some manageable relationship to real growth and productivity,
with a liquidity or borrowing cushion against inevitable periods
of recession and disturbance.
Looking back, it's much easier now than in the 1970"s
to see the warning signs that the process was not in fact
sustainable for some countries, and that it had become
dependent on accelerating inflation and exceptionally low
real interest rates.

Lending banks had permitted their own

capital ratios and liquidity to erode, increasing their own
potential vulnerability.

And, perhaps most ominously, late

in the 1970's and at the start of the 1980's accelerating
capital flight from a number of borrowing countries signaled
deteriorating prospects for productive investment; at the same
time, larger amounts of external, public borrowing were
required to finance the outflow.
The implicit assumption of rising inflation, low
real interest rates, and sustained world growth were abruptly
undermined in the early 1980's.

When the crisis erupted

in Mexico, reflecting a particular combination of political
and economic circumstances, the simple fact is much of the
continent of South America, as well as some other important
borrowers, had become vulnerable to even a temporary change
in circumstances and market psychology.



One clear danger

-5was that self-protective instincts of individual lenders
to cut risks and exposures by suddenly curtailing new loans
would not only grievously impair the stability of their
borrowing customers but also pose large risks for all
creditors with large loan exposures —

a category including

most of the major international banks.
Happily, there was not only prompt recognition on all
sides of that danger to the international financial system
but a strong willingness to participate in a collective approach
to deal with it.

I will not review today the details of that

cooperative effort.

Suffice it to say it had several critical

ingredients.
The efforts of the borrowing countries themselves to
reduce external needs —

an effort that initially inevitably

required emphasis on curtailing swollen imports —

and to

become more competitive and productive over time were
absolutely critical.

But those efforts would have been

fruitless without recognition by banks of their own interest
in orderly refinancing of old loans and the provision of
enough new money to maintain the viability of the adjustment
programs undertaken by borrowers.

The role of the International

Monetary Fund in the process has, of course, been essential.
It could, as it was designed to do, provide a critical
margin of new money.

I sense more important, if less

measurable, has been its ability —

as an internationally

respected, competent, and neutral financial (and intellectual!)
intermediary —



to seize the initiative in coordinating the

-6effort, country by country, and to maintain surveillance
over the entire process.
The founders of the IMF could hardly have foreseen
this role, and few of us, even a few years ago, could have
appreciated the importance it would assume.

Of course, it

has had to be supported, with resources and otherwise, by
governments and central banks of the leading countries

—

one area where Fritz Leutwiler, working through the BIS and
otherwise, was so active.
Now, more than two years after Mexico had to declare
a temporary standstill on its debt repayments, we can take
some satisfaction from the fact that the crisis facing major
developing countries and the system has been contained and
kept manageable.
—

For some of the most important borrowers

notably Mexico, Venezuela and Brazil —

more can be claimed,

They have made unexpectedly rapid progress in external
adjustment, and have succeeded in rebuilding significant
financial reserves.

Two of them have negotiated long-term

debt restructurings on terms that they should realistically
be able to meet, and the third has plans to do so.
It s s equally obvious that points of vulnerability
remain, and to some extent, problems can remain contagious.
Argentina, for instance, only now is at a critical point in
negotiating with its creditors for a sizable amount of
needed new money and debt rollovers, following prolonged
consultations by the new and democratic government on an
appropriate adjustment program with the IMF.



Other smaller

-7Latin American countriesf as well as a few elsewheref
remain in a very difficult position, economically and
financially.
Under the circumstances, it's still too soon to close
the book on what might be thought of as "stage one" of
handling the LDC debt problem -- urgent crisis management.
But it's not too soon to begin work on stage two -- the
transition to renewed growth and stability.

I suggested

at the start that the broad prerequisites for success can
be identified, and at a general level command a broadening
degree of agreement as consistent with realistic and
reasonable assumptions.
In essence, econometric and other analysis at the
IMF and World Bank, as well as among some private analysts,
suggest trend growth by the industrializing developing
countries of 5 percent or more annually can be restored in
in the years ahead consistent with significantly falling
debt burdens and much reduced exposure relative to capital
of lenders*

Our own work in the Federal Reserve supports

these conclusions*
The assumptions typically made in these studies do
not strike me as heroics

growth averaging about 3 percent

a year among the industrialized countries, well within
historical experience? real dollar interest rates within
the range of those experienced over the past year or so




-8(an assumption which could well be unduly pessimistic);
and no large change, up or down, in oil prices.

Projections

for individual countries made by both borrowers and lenders
in developing longer-term restructuring programs, such as
for Mexico, lend credence to the more general analysis.
I am well aware that econometric projections are not
the same as reality; the real world has more surprises, and
more fluctuations, than can ever be captured in a series of
equations averaging past relationships*

But I believe the

work does demonstrate effectively that all the effort on
crisis management has not led us into a blind alley, only
postponing an inevitable day of reckoning*

Hard analysis

simply does not support the pessimistic earlier view of
some that such extreme and unlikely measures as substantial
new official aid programs or across-the-board writedowns of
debt would inexorably become necessary to avoid financial breakdown.
But, conversely, there should be no presumption that
favorable results are assured and automatic.

All those who

have cooperated in crisis management will have important
continuing roles to play.

That sounds as though the patience

of all could be sorely tested —

except that the actions

needed are basically consistent with the individual
interests of the several parties, debt problems or no.
For example, the most important need for the
industrialized world is to maintain orderly economic
expansion, with the important by-product of a favorable
external economic environment for developing countries



— Q—

seeking to expand exports.

For the past 18 monthsf the

United States has played a particularly large role in supporting
world growth.

Our huge and growing trade deficit and the

much slower rate of U.S. growth for some months —

while

not in itself exceptional during an expansion period

—

should also be reminders enough that the responsibility for
encouraging growth should not fall on one country alone.
Indeed, looking ahead, the historically high levels of
unemployment that have persisted in Europe for some timef
and the progress that has been made against inflation,
suggest the potential for above-average growth rates in
that key industrial center for a while.
To me, it is obvious as well that prospects for
balanced growth with more moderate interest rates in this
country would be greatly enhanced by a strong and early
attack on our now chronically large budget deficit.

Given

our weight in the world economy, that deficit not only
overstrains our capacity to save domestically, it absorbs
too much of the limited supply of capital abroad.
All the industrialized countries will have to work
hard and in concert to resist protectionist pressures.
There is no doubt that rapid increases in imports from
the developing world pose difficult adjustment problems
for long-established industries here and elsewhere;
temptations to curtail imports become well nigh
irresistible when markets in other countries are closed.




-10But there is also no doubt that the ability of the developing
world to grow and service its debt is dependent on rising
exports —

and that their development will also stimulate a

comparable flow of exports from the industrialized world.
In the end/ the productivity and standard of living of all
countries is at stake.
The question should not be addressed to industrialized
countries alone.
same thing —
pricing —

Protectionism, or what amounts to the

a network of subsidies, controls, and artificial

can be as much or more of a handicap to growth

and development when practiced by the developing countries
themselves.

Far too often, a few favored industries are

supported and pampered at great cost, budgetary or
otherwise, sacrificing the competition that spurs efficiency
and harming other sectors —

often including agriculture

—

operating far below their potential.
That lost "potential" may have appeared less urgent
when bank loans from abroad seemed abundantly available on
easy terms.

But the only prudent assumption today is that

those days of lenders aggressively "selling" loans to the
most heavily indebted are gone, certainly for years ahead.
Realistically, given the scars of recent experience, the
relative exposure of a number of large banks to particular
countries is likely to remain larger than they would desire
for some time.

Many smaller banks, attracted to foreign

business beyond their normal market areas, may wish to
retrench.



I do not suggest that when conditions justify

—

-11including satisfactory performance with respect to IMF-sponsored
adjustment programs -- long-term restructuring of existing
debts at reasonable spreads should not be expected in more
countries, or that cooperative efforts to raise essential
amounts of new money will not be successful.

In appropriate

circumstancesf the common interest in those efforts remains
compelling.

But truly spontaneous lending by individual

institutions to countries with serious debt servicing
difficulties may be confined largely to trade credits for a
time, and even as confidence more fully returnsf new lending
is likely to remain moderate by the standards of the 1970's
for years to come.
There can be, in fact, no common interest in simply
resuming the lending patterns of earlier years —

lending

that would ultimately again threaten the stability of
lenders and borrowers alike.

Banking and supervisory

agencies here and elsewhere will themselves want to guard
against that eventuality.
All of that emphasizes the need to make more effective
use of savings generated internally as well as externally

—

the former in any event will always be the most important
source of capital for any country.

That is a difficult and

politically sensitive area in which every country will have
to find its own solutions, suited to its own traditions and
philosophies.

But having said that, I cannot refrain from

making several observations on the current scene.




-12A number of heavily indebted countries have made the
strongest kind of effortf under crisis conditions, to make
fundamental adjustments in their economies, often at the
expense initially of cutting already low standards of living
and aggravating structural problems of unemployment.

The

results in their external accounts have been remarkable*
Internally, progress has typically been more difficult.
Inflation in a number of countries is still rising, or
falling more slowly than anticipated.

For a variety of

reasons, business and agriculture have been delayed in
reorganizing and enhancing efficiency, and many incentives
seem to remain perverse.
As the immediate crisis recedes, there will be strong
and legitimate demands for renewed growth and employment.
That will need to be done without counting on such large
injections of new bank lending as in the past or much
more rapid expansion of official lending from abroad to
make up for an inability to generate usable domestic savings.
I would like to be able to say with confidence that
many foreign companies or other potential foreign investors
are poised today to support those needs by means of large
new equity investments —

either as active managers, as

partners in local enterprises, or as portfolio investors.
Potentially, I believe such investors do exist, and in large
numbers, given the local opportunities for profit in expanding
domestic markets and international markets.




But, with a

-13few significant exceptions, potential investors are hesitant
and reluctant.

Many seem less concerned with creditworthiness

than with -- as they see it —

a history of distrust about

private and foreign business, a perceived absence of security
for private capital, and excessive controls.
One does not have to look to foreign capital to make
the point.

In country after country, debt problems were

greatly aggravated by massive capital exports by their own
citizens —

capital that once exported is likely to provide

little or no earnings for use of the country as a whole.
When a nation is unable to attract and efficiently employ
the capital of its own citizens, prospects for attracting
the equity particiption of others is slim.

Yet, that is

precisely the kind of funds -- whether in the hands of
their own entrepreneurs or from businesses abroad —

that

could spark and sustain the growth and the productivity
that is so sorely needed.

And, not so incidentally, in

financial terms, a thicker layer of equity risk capital
would be the best possible base for encouraging a restoration
of normal bank lending.
These are not theoretical propositions —

there are

obvious examples around the world of developing countries
with an hospitable climate for investment that have managed
to maintain their growth and attract foreign capital in the
midst of the debt crisis affecting so many other countries.
1 realize that habits and attitudes built up over many
years, whether by foreign investors or within a country,



-14are hard to change, and the prevailing cautious attitudes
of foreign investors may no longer be fully justified by
objective facts in some countries*

But one senses that,

with attention, greater opportunities can be developed in
the mutual interest.

Certainly, the return of confidence

implied by a surge in private investment, domestic and
foreign, would provide the strongest possible evidence that
the debt problems are indeed behind us, and that hard-pressed
borrowing countries can confidently again look forward to
sustained growth and raising standards of living.
Let me summarize my thesis in a few sentences.

The

debt problem is, and with effort should remain, manageable.
While the particular conditions and circumstances differ
widely among them, a number of developing countries, working
with the IMF, have made striking progress toward achieving
external balance without heavy dependence on new bank
lending.
banks —

In that context, cooperative efforts by lending
again typically in the context of IMF programs

—

will remain justified and essential for some time to achieve
realistic repayment schedules for existing loans and to
raise amounts of new funds essential to finance adjustment.
As we look ahead, these efforts should be consistent
with renewed strong growth by the borrowers, and with
significantly reduced debt servicing burdens of borrowers
and reduced exposure by lending banks (relative to their
capital or assets).

Indeed, ultimate success, from the

viewpoints of borrowers, lenders and the world at large, is




-15dependent upon reaching those results.

Reasoned analysis

strongly suggests those results can and will be reached,
provided growth by industrialized countries is sustained,
excessive real interest rates are avoided, and open competitive
markets are maintained, both in the industrialized and
developing worlds*
Viewed in that light, the basic policy requirements
for success in resolving the problems of international
indebtedness are the same as those for meeting our economic
problems more generally.
So far as the United States is concerned, the message
seems to me very clear.

All the arguments for maintaining

progress toward price stability, for dealing with the budget
deficit, for resisting protectionism, for encouraging
productivity, are reinforced and made more urgent.
1 am sure there are pointed lessons for others as
welL

If we succeed even moderately well in acting upon

those lessons —

and that is certainly well within our

several capacities -- I see no reason why this debt crisis,
as so many crises before, cannot in the end be turned to
constructive opportunity.




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