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October 18, 2023

Brief Remarks

by
Michelle W. Bowman
Member
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
at a
Fed Listens Event on Transitioning to the Post-Pandemic Economy, hosted by
the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
Richmond, Virginia

October 18, 2023

Thank you, Tom. It is a pleasure to join you to take part in today’s
conversations. 1 When we started Fed Listens back in 2019, the initiative was part of a
broad, comprehensive review of the decisionmaking framework we use to pursue our
monetary policy goals of maximum employment and price stability. We met with people
across the country from a wide range of backgrounds and perspectives, and we learned a
lot about how our monetary policy actions affect them, their businesses, and their
communities. In light of the valuable insights we gained in those original listening
sessions, we decided to expand the scope of Fed Listens to become an ongoing process of
consultation with the public.
I look forward to learning from the perspectives of today’s participants, our
panelists, as well as those of you in the audience. Through Fed Listens and other Board
and System convenings, we are able to gain important insights about economic
conditions by engaging directly with those experiencing the economy. Your views and
experiences supplement the economic data that we monitor, providing important color
and context. These discussions help us gain a deeper understanding of the ongoing
burden from high inflation—from the considerations for families in making spending
decisions to the factors weighed by business owners in applying for loans to make capital
investments like new buildings or equipment to expand operations.
These conversations help us look beneath the national level to see how Americans
in different areas of the country are faring. I am sure that some of the issues and
challenges that we will hear about today are unique to the Federal Reserve’s Fifth
District, while other themes will be broadly similar to those experienced in different areas
The views expressed here are my own and are not necessarily those of my colleagues on the Federal
Reserve Board or the Federal Open Market Committee.
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-2of the country. This local perspective is one of the great advantages of the Federal
Reserve System’s regional structure and of the Fed Listens initiative.
The conversations here today also help inform our thinking as we head into the
next meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee. Inflation has come down, but we
know that it is still too high, and it can be especially difficult for those least able to
manage the higher costs of essentials like food, housing, and transportation. My
colleagues and I are highly focused on returning inflation to 2 percent. Our ability to
deliver on that goal depends importantly on being able to separate the short-term effects
of temporary events from longer-term structural shifts in the economy. The pandemic
experience abruptly changed the lives of most Americans and their families, and it has
altered many long-standing economic patterns that policymakers have relied on to
interpret economic developments.
One example of this change is the major shift in the composition of spending by
American consumers that we’ve seen in the past few years. In the decades before the
pandemic, we observed a slow but steady decline in the share of aggregate consumer
spending that was composed of goods and a corresponding increase in the share of
services in total spending. In the first two years after the onset of the pandemic, the
balance of spending moved back substantially toward goods and away from services,
though this movement wasn’t particularly surprising given the lockdowns and the fact
that so many businesses in the services sector were shut down.
What has been somewhat surprising, however, is that the relative strength in
goods spending has persisted, rather than reverting to its pre-pandemic trends. This
pattern we see in the U.S. is also unusual relative to other advanced economies, where the

-3composition of goods versus services spending appears to have returned to historical
norms. There are a number of potential explanations for these newly emerging spending
patterns—some that would likely be temporary, and others more lasting. For example,
the strong sales of computers, televisions, and video game consoles this year might
reflect some ongoing pent-up demand following earlier supply shortages, or they might
reflect a more permanent change in preferences for these goods due to the greater amount
of time many of us are spending at home.
Given their varied experiences and leadership roles in sectors including retail,
hospitality, and health care, I am sure that our panelists—and, indeed, all of you in the
audience as well—have observed these and other changes in your own lives, your
businesses, and your communities since the pandemic. Sharing those observations during
today’s discussions will help us do our best as policymakers to promote a strong and
vibrant economy.
So with that, I would like to say thank you again, Tom, for hosting this Fed
Listens event and for the opportunity to be part of this discussion.