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ADDRESS BEFORE THE
IOWA BANKERS ASSOCIATION CONVENTION
IN DES MOINES, IOWA, OCTOBER 27, 19^8.

BY

MAKRINEB S. ECCLES
MEMBER OF TBE BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

FOB RELEASE AT 1 2 : 0 0 NOON
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 2 7 ,

19^

OUH ECONOMIC DILELiiKtA

I have been asked to discuss the economic dilemma that confronts
us today. Actually there are many economic dilemmas, and time will not
permit me to examine all of them. Recently, when I appeared at a Congressional hearing to discuss inflation, I made this statement which reflects
some of the economic dilemma;
"Each one wants the benefits of inflation for himself,
but he wants the others to pay for them.
The farmer wants a floor under his prices, but he does
not want a ceiling.
The real-estate people, the building-^materials people,
want easy credit so that they can readily dispose of, at in-*flated prices, the homes and materials they have to sell.
But they certainly resist having any excess-profits taxes in
order that the Government might recapture some of the profits
that are thus made.
Labor has always wanted price control, but they have
vigorously resisted wage control.
The bankers want higher interest r^tes, but they do
not want the Federal banking agencies to nave increased
power over the expansion of credit.
You know the familiar pattern, And now, after 3 years,
you have been called together to consider this problem which
has been with the Congress constantly, and the American public
constantlyf and there has been little or no willingness to face
up to it, realistically, either by the public or by the Congress,
or by the Administration,
This situation has gone so far that to stop the inflationary development could well bring about a deflationary
development."
fohile nearly everyone has been fully conscious of inflation in
our economy, there has been no general agreement or widespread understanding among the people as to why prices have risen. Some criticize organized labor for successfully demanding higher wages. Others point to the
raising of prices by business and the resultant excessive profits, to the
high prices of agricultural products, or to the activities of speculators
in commodities and real estate. Government expenditures, high taxes, and
many other things are singled out for blame. Such factors, to be sure, all
have their relevance to inflation. But some of these are only symptoms
or effects of inflation, and not pauses. Others are merely relatively
minor factors that could never, in themselves, have developed an inflationary situation such as we have had.
Excessive money supply the basic cause of inflation.
The vital force, that has been generating inflation in this
country, has been the excessively large money supply which was created by
war financing. At the end of the war, demand deposits and currency held
by the buying public were about three times their prewar volume. In addition, businesses and individuals increased their holdings of United States




Government securities about 7> billion dollars, imixe Lne wartime money
growth was underway, prices were held in check fay a comprehensive harness of
controls, including allocations, construction permits, rationing, price and
wage controls and high levels of taxation, including excess profits taxes
and the like. The fundamental economic adjustment, which we have faced in
the postwar period, has been to grow up to this much larger money supply,
that is, to faring about a more normal balance between the supply of goods
and services available to the public and the expanded supply of money,
For this postwar adjustment to have been accomplished with a
minimum of inflation two things should have been done. First, some reduction should have been made in the money supply in the hands of the
public* Second, the wartime harness of controls on the economy should
have been retained until the full flow of peacetime production had been
restored and some of the most urgent of the deferred demand had been
satisfied.
But we did neither of these things. True, an attempt was made
to cut the money supply by reversing the wartime process of money creation
through a Government budgetary surplus. Money was withdrawn from the
people by taxation and by the sale of savings arid other bonds, and these
funds were largely used to retire Government debt held by the banks.
From mid-1946 to mid-1948, Treasury operations had the effect of reducing
the money supply in the hands of the public by 11 billion dollars. But,
notwithstanding these Treasury operations, that money supply v*as materially
expanded. The contraction resulting from the Treasury cash surplus was
more than offset by the very rapid and large expansion of bank loans and
investments other than Government securities and by the gold inflow.
The war-time harness of controls was quickly abandoned by the
Administration immediately after the war> largely at the behest of organized
pressure groups. The failure to reduce the volume of money and to retain,
during the transition period, the harness of direct controls, to which I
referred, has resulted in the inflationary situation about which everyone
has talKed so much and done so little.
Remedies for inflation
One way to combat inflation is to produce a greatly expanded
volume of goods and services. This is a remedy we often hear proposed.
It would be a gratifying way out indeed. But any realistic appraisal of
the inflation problem will reveal that no such pleasant solution has been
possible or is in imoiediate prospect. Our overall production is currently
at record levels, with maximum utilization of our manpower and of many
basic materials, notably steel* While further increases in production
will certainly come with increases in productivity of our men and machines,
it cannot come overnight, tue cannot count on that as a solution to our
present situation*
The only other way to strike at tlw core of tne inflation situation is to reduce the flow of spending for goods and services, we must




-3stop increasing the volume of money and, in fact, we should reduce it, he
should encourage people to save and we should discourage any expenditures
for consumption or capital goods that can be deferred, and particularly
such as is done by the use of credit. However, it is not right for the
Government to advocate this, unless it will take whatever steps are required to protect the purchasing power of the dollar.
Since mid-1946, a date which might be taken as the end of the
period of physical transition from war to a peace economy, we have had
an increase, and not a decrease, in the money supply in the hands of the
public. Demand deposits increased by 3 billion dollars and time deposits
by 6 billion* Currency has decreased 1 billion. The total has increased
by 8 billion dollars. This increase has been due to gold inflow, net
selling by nonbank investors of Government securities to banks, principally the Reserve Banks, and an expansion of commercial bank credit to
businesses, real estate owners, consumers and public bodies. Of these,
commercial bank credit expansion has been the largest, AS I have said
before, the expansion of deposits would have been greater had it not
been for the use of the Treasury surplus to retire securities held by
banks.
If we are merely to stop a further increase in the money supply,
we must not only stop, but must reverse, the expansion of bank credit. The
reason being that gold production amounts to nearly a billion dollars a
year, and we may expect to get most of it. This not only directly increases
our bank deposits by a corresponding amount, but also adds to the volume
of bank reserves which can be used as a basis for further multiple credit expansion. I commend to your attention the recent statement by Mr. Russell
Leffingwell regarding the question of gold und its proper use.
I am fully aware of some of the difficulties which may be involved in a policy of credit restraint in making that policy effective
in stopping inflation. The rate of use or velocity of existing money
has, as you know, been low in recent years as compared with previous
experience, particularly in the twenties. This low velocity has been
the result, in large part, of the cheapness as well as of the abundant
supply of money and credit.
Tightening bank credit and raising money rates tends to activate
the existing supply of money. Investment institutions, such as savings
and loan associations and savings banks,, raise the rates they pay on savings deposits in order to induce holders of cash to make their funds
available for investment. Commercial banks also raise their time deposit
rates and other borrowers offer nigher rates for money. Idle pools of
deposits are thereby drawn into the spending stream. Attracted by the
higher rates on other investments, some savings bond owners might be
induced tp cash their bonds, and purchases of new bonds would be discouraged.
Sales of marketable Government bonds to the Reserve Banks are also encouraged.
In other words, to the extent that credit restriction or contraction increases velocity,its effectiveness is impaired. This does not




-4mean that, should the inflation continue, it would be futile to restrict
bank credit. M a t it does mean is, that in a highly inflationary situation,
with increasing velocity, restriction may not be enough. In such circumstances it might require a contraction of the money supply to overcome
the inflationary effect of the increased velocity.
Bank credit restraint
As I have stated earlier, we are confronted with an economic
dilemma, toe have in fact some very unpleasant alternatives. One of these
is to do nothing at all, even though inflationary pressures continue.
Another is to adopt a strong policy of monetary restraint* A prerequisite
for dealing successfully with monetary problems under inflationary conditions, nowever, is the adoption of fiscal policy which would insure a
balanced budget or, preferably, a budgetary surplus so long as inflationary
pressures continue. However, if fiscal policy should result in substantial deficit financing, it wrould not be possible to adopt a restrictive
monetary policy under existing powers.
Monetary policy under present day circumstances must be reinforced by a fiscal policy and a debt management program consistent with
it. In other words, fiscal and monetary policy should go hand in hand.
Our fiscal position in recent years has been favorable to credit
restraint and has been a major factor checking monetary expansion, A
further Government surplus, however, is not now in prospect, we have had
a 5 billion dollar cut in taxes. Expenditures are up about 5 billion dollars for military purposes and foreign aid. So the Government surplus,
heretofore the principal monetary bulwark restraining inflation, has
disappeared. Indications are that defense expenditures will be further
materially increased. If there is no corresponding increase in taxes or
reduction in other Government expenses, there will be a Dudget deficit
which would add to our present inflation problems. This would be most
unfortunate and should not be permitted to happen.
For achieving a condition of restraint on bank credit and
monetary expansion, several proposals have been made, You are familiar
with most of them, I am sure. One instrument that would be efiective is
authority to increase primary reserve requirements of all banks, member
and nonmember alike. This is an inflexible instrument, which could be
used to offset bank sales of Government securities to the Reserve Banks.
It could also be used to immobilize additional bank reserves resulting
from gold inflows and from System purchases of Government securities from
nonbank investors, thus preventing multiple credit expansion on the basis
of these reserves.
Another less onerous plan is the special or optional reserve
proposal. This would immobilize a large part of bank portfolios of Treasury
bills and certificates, and greatly reduce the willingness and ability of
banks to lend. It could also be used to tie up new bank reserves in these




>5securities. The special reserve authority would be particularly applicable to a situation of a further Government deficit that an enlarged
military and foreign aid program may cause* foith this authority, should
it be necessary to extend bank credit to the Government, the deposits
thus created could be tied to the securities issued and these securities
could not provide a means of obtaining additional bank reserves upon
which a multiple credit and money expansion could be based*
Even more effective as a program of credit control would be
a combination of these two authorities.
The position of the banking fraternity in general, with respect
to the monetary situation, is an inconsistent one. Most bankers want
the System to continue the present price support for Government securities.
But they oppose the System^ request for any additional authority that
would serve as a partial substitute for the use of traditional pov-ers which
the System is unable to use so long as it maintains the present support
policy.
They even oppose the System's use of the small emergency powers
to increase reserve requirements, granted last August, although these powers
have been used only to absorb reserves created by the gold inflow and by
the System1 s support purchases of Government securities from nonbank
investors. It was primarily fpr the purpose of absorbing any additional
reserves which might become available to the banking system that the authority was given. The increase in reserve requirements of member banks has
approximately offset the growth in reserves from these sources since the
middle of the year, and earning assets of member banks are just as large
as they were at the end of June. In the meantime short-term interest
rates have been permitted to rise, thus improving bank earnings from
this source. Accordingly, banks as a whole have not been adversely affected, but their earnings have been improved. Further additions to the
supply of reserve funds, from whatever source, would call for additional
u$e of this authority so long as tne present inflationary conditions exist.
The bankers have proposed no solution of their own to this dilemma except
the voluntary program, which, though commendable, has not been adequate.
It is the commonly expressed view that authority to increase
reserve requirements is a blunt instrument which places too much power
in the hands of the Federal Reserve Board. The increases in reserve requirements early in 1937 have been cited as an example of the dangers in
the use of this power. It is claimed that the Board's action was a principal factor precipitating the recession which began in that year.
This reference to the 1937 situation, to discredit changes in
reserve requirements as a credit policy instrument, needs to be examined
critically. You will remember at the beginning of 1937 excess reserves
of member banks were about 2 billion dollars, largely reflecting the substantial gold inflows of the time. The Board raised reserve requirements
to immobilize as much of these unnecessary reserves as it couio vdthin




-6its available authority, so that the more flexible po*>er of Open Market
operation could be used effectively. At the same time, the Treasury, by
borrowing money to do so, was sterilizing incoming gold to prevent further
expansion in reserves.
Mr. Leffingwell, in his recent article in Fortune, implies that
this action made credit unavailable. Nothing could be further from the
truth, Never during this period were excess reserves of member banks
below 700 million dollars. Credit was not pnly readily available, but it
continued to be exceedingly cheap. For example, rates on short-term commercial paper were not above 1 per cent; on bankers* acceptances, 1/2 of
1 per cent$ pn stock exchange call loans, 1 per cent; and on Treasury bills,
3/A of 1 per cent. Rates charged by banks pn average business loans continued at very low levels. Does this sound like a shortage of credit?
The forces which turned the economy down in 1937 were the rapid
and excessive inventory accumulations which began in the middle of 1936 and
the abrupt balancing of the Government's cash budget in 1937, following a
period of substantial Federal deficits. The Board9s action to increase
reserves, to bring the market within reach of the System9 s open market powers,
had nothing of substance to do with the recession that developed.
The gold inflows continued in such volume that by mid-1940 excess reserves were nearly 7 billion dollars. The System had no means of
absorbing these excess reserves, since its holdings of Government securities
were only about one-third as large. This was the case, even thou#i reserve requirements were near the maximum levels permitted by law. In view
of this situation, in December 1940, for the only time in the history of
the System, the Board, the Presidents of the federal reserve Banks and the
Federal Advisory Council submitted a joint report to Congress. This report
called attention to the inadequacy of Federal Reserve powers to discharge
its responsibilities. It recommended, among other things, that the System
be given authority to raise reserve requirements to double the statutory
maxima and to apply these requirements to all commercial banks, member as
well as nonmember banks. This would mean that requirements could be raised
to 12 per cent on time deposits and to 52 per cent, U0 per cent, and 28
per cent on net demand deposits for central reserve city, reserve city,
and country banks, respectively. The Federal advisory Council, the body
representing the member banks, participated in the preparation of this
report and unanimously favored its submission to Congress. At the present
time, this Council opposes granting any additional authority to control credit
expansion, although the inflationary situation is far more serious.
"Flexible91 support of the Government securities market
tohat alternatives have been advanced to the System9 s proposals
for restricting bank credit expansion? The principal alternative proposals
relate to changes in the Federal deserve System's policies with respect to
support of the market for Government securities.




-7Because of the importance in our economy of a 250 billion dollar
Government debt, the federal Reserve System has undertaken to continue its
wartime task of maintaining orderly and stable conditions in the Government securities market. This program involves the purchase of Government
securities by the Federal Reserve Banks whenever holders choose to sell
and others are not in the market to buy at support level prices. Banks,
insurance companies, and other lenders have taken advantage of this
market support to sell Government securities in order to extend credit
to other borrowers. As I have said before, this process creates addi^
tional amounts of bank reserves and money.
Much of the criticism of the support program for Government
securities has come from insurance company executives and from officials
of large banks. Specifically, the System*$ support activities have been
criticized by Mr. Parkinson, President of the Equitable Life assurance
Society, and by Mr. Russell Leffingwell, Chairman of the Board of J. P.
Morgan & Co., as well as by the privately-sponsored Committee on Public
Debt Policy, which is composed principally of persons associated with
large commercial banks, insurance companies, and savings institutions.
I am not entering into a debate with these critics. However,
I would like to help clarify the issues.
I agree with these critics that there is too much money and
that it is too easy to create additional money.
Mr. Leffingwell and I are in agreement as to the need for
measures outside the private credit field. Some of my views on this were
expressed extemporaneously last August before a Committee of Congress.
I quote from that testimony:
n
I do believe that everything within the power of the
Administration and the Congress should be done to maintain a
budgetary surplus.
I do believe that the Federal Government should do everything within its power to encourage the State to postpone
every expenditure that it is possible to postpone, and set an
example to the States by doing likewise.

I do believe that the Federal Government should not, for
what seem to me political reasons, encourage a housing program
in excess of the amount of labor and materials available, and
encourage further inflation thereby.
I do believe that the Federal Government should do everything within its power to bring down food prices, by encouraging
more and not less production."
As part of a program for reestablishing effective control of
the money supply, there is wide agreen*ent that further steps should be
taken toward greater flexibility in short-term rates. The Federal Reserve




-8System believes in, has advocated, and has taken tangible steps toward
this objective. Action in this field must, of course, take into account the
Treasury1s problem of public debt management* I personally feel, however,
that action has moved unnecessarily slowly and that further steps are
needed which would permit higher and more flexible short-term rates, xny
such action would be accompanied by appropriate changes in the Federal
Reserve Bank discount rate.
But the principal controversy is not relative to the short-terri
rate. The more controversial issue is whether or not the Federal Reserve
should continue maintaining the rate of 2 1/2 per cent on the longest-term
Government securities.
The means for restraining monetary expansion which critics of
the support program prescribe is to introduce flexibility into the longterm rate. Complete abandonment of the Government bond market by the
Reserve System is not generally advocated. As Mr. Leffingwell has put
it, "The peg should come out, but the Government bond market should not
be abruptly left to itself • " He also wrote, "The policy of supporting
Government bonds when necestary, without pegging, and of maintaining an
orderly market in Government bonds, would be continued until a normal
market is reestablished. The authorities should, however, stop the automatic supply of money to the market to peg bond prices at par, and should
let interest rates and bond prices gradually settle themselves; but not
make money dear or scarce."
Now, just what does this type of program actually contemplate?
It seems to involve a continued willingness on the part of the Federal
Reserve System to take Government bonds and to supply Reserve Bank credit,
but at yields higher than 2 1/2 per cent. Apparently, however, the System
should follow a policy of gradually easing bond prices down and yields up,
but buying aggressively, if necessary, to maintain orderliness in the
market.
Wiat would be the position of a Government bond owner or a potential bond buyer under such circumstances? Would they have any confidence
in the market? Holders would tend to sell and potential buyers to hold
back, creating increasing downward pressure on bond prices, until substantially lower prices were reached. If yields should rise only 1/2 per
cent on the longest 2 1/2 per cent bonds, their price would fall to less
than 93, But in a falling bond mancet, with general credit demand strong,
rates on other securities and loans would tend to rise at least proportion^
ately as much. Under these conditions, can it be expected tnat insurance
companies or savings and loan associations or other institutional investors
would act materially differently with the yield on Governments at 3 per
cent than they do now at 2 1/2 per cent?
Loans or investment, other than Government securities, would
have as much, if not more, relative attractiveness to lenders and investors^
Few, if any, borrowers would be priced out of the market for funds by




-9rate increases of the size contemplated by advocates of this "flexibility"
policy. Any moderate rise in long-term interest rates would not, in itself,
reduce significantly the demand for money. Investing institutions, v.hich
are now switching from long-term Government bonds to private credit forms,
would still be motivated to do so by a continuing margin of return between
the two kinds of investment.
Thus, under the "flexible" policy, the Federal deserve System
would still be called upon to support the bond market and would thereby
continue to create bank reserves. It is possible that the amount of
support required under these conditions would be much greater than is
now the case. Investors generally would lose confidence in the market
and would rush to sell their securities before prices declined further.
Honey and reserves created by Federal xceserve purchases below present
support prices would be just as high-powered as those created by support
at existing prices, and the reserves thus made available could support
nearly six times us much in bank loans.
If a program of dropping the support prices on Government bonds
is to have any meaning as an anti-inflation device under conditions such
as exist today, it must eflectively restrict credit expansion. This
means denying the market new Federal neserve funds. Merely reducing
somewhat the prices at which the System buys securities and supplies the
market with funds would not alter the fundamental conditions underlying
the current expansion in the money supply.
If the System were to go any part of the way down the road of
withdrawing support from the 2 1/2 per cent long-term Government rate,
it should be prepared to go as far as necessary to place monetary expansion under adequate restraint by this device. Interest rates, under
such a policy, would need to go high enough to discourage long-term borrowers, to restrain selling of Government securities, to bring idle funds
into the market for Government securities, and to increase savings. Prices
of Government securities would need to drop to the point where buying
would about equal selling, without significant support by the System.
No one knpws how much the prices of Government bonds would drop
before such a balance would be reached. No one knows, moreover, just what
would be the consequences of such a policy, not only upon some of our
financial institutions and upon our financial structure generally, but
upon the entire economy.
Certainly we could not expect that such action ^ould increase
the sales on balance of savings bonds, of which there is over 50 billions
outstanding. It could have the opposite effect of causing many holders,
not understanding the action taken, to cash in their present bonds. Other
savings bond holders, who are more familiar vdth the investment market,
might see an opportunity to profit by shifting out of E, F, and G. bonds and
into marketable bonds if the prices of marketable issues go low enough.
Either of these developments would put the Treasury in the mancet for new




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funds to redeem these securities and could require that the Reserve System
give up its tight money policy to assist the Treasury in meeting its obligation to savings bond gpners and thus could defeat the purposes of this
anti-inflation program.'
A program
System support from
serious deflation.
the support program

of credit control, made effective by withdrawal of
the Government securities market, could lead to a
This,indeed, is a result that the sharpest critics of
say they are anxious to avoid.

Inflationary role of nonbank institutional investors
Representatives of some big investing institutions have freely
criticized banks for their creation of new money through bank credit
expansion. They complain about the effect of inflation on the value of
savings and insurance benefits.
But some of these institutions are helping to create the very
inflation about which they complain. They are helping to reduce the purchasing power of money by extending credit to real estate owners, to
businesses and to state and local governments in amounts which exceed
funds available from repayment of debt or the current flow of savings
into their institutions. They are able to do this by selling to the Re<r
serve Banks Government securities they purchased to help finance the war.
The Reserve tfanks have to ouy thejn>unless we are prepared to take the
dangerous road of withdrawal of support that I have just described. There
would be no objection to their selling if there were a deflation situation,
or if there were a market at present levels outside the banking system.
I suspect that some of those who are most vocal in advocating a
drop in support prices have a very special interest in lower prices on
long-term securities. It would be interesting and enlightening in tnis
connection, I suspect, if we could see the maturity composition of their
Government security portfolios, we might find that they have few long-term
securities, having never bought any nor having previously sold at premiums
what they did have.
There needs to be greater recognition on the part of our large
nonbank institutional investors that commercial banks are not the only
institutions which are expected to act in the public interest to niaintain
monetary stability. Insurance companies and other holders of the savings
of the people have that responsibility as well. If they are unwilling
to recognize and to meet their public responsibilities, then it would be
necessary to include them, as well as banks, in a legislative program of
adequate monetary and credit control.
In conclusion.

evitable.




I should liKe to emphasize that further inflation is not inThere are some soft spots in the economy. In quite a number

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of important areas production has been cut back as supply has overtaken
demand at existing prices. Large crops have pressed down the prices of a
number of agricultural commodities to support levels, which, by the way,
in my opinion are altogether too high and run counter to an anti-inflation
program. There is also some evidence that private construction may be
declining. Inventories generally are at an all-time high, and pressures
for their reduction are increasing. The need for credit control would be
greatly lessened or temporarily disappear if deflationary factors should
increase in importance*
Our economic objective should be to stabilize our economy at
high levels of employment and production. It is easier to achieve this
stability if we have a stable price level, than if we have falling or
rapidly rising prices, A stable price level, however, has come to be
taken by some almost as a guarantee of long-run economic stability. I
think it is appropriate to inject a few words of caution on this point.
We may achieve a form of temporary stability in the present
general level of prices that could be taken to indicate that all was
well, but that might hide a serious undercurrent of weakness. If we
achieve a stability at the existing level of prices by the prop of a
further sizable credit expansion, whether bank or otherwise, ttien I say
we are storing up real trouble, tee are borrowing against the future if,
to hold the economy at present prices, we need heavy new borrowing by
businesses, substantial buying on credit by consumers, large mortgage
expansion at present high construction costs, and large state and local
expenditures for public works. This would also be true if we permit a
large Federal deficit, It would be better to bring about a more balanced
situation now by having a downward adjustment in prices, even at the cost
of some slackening in our present level of economic activity. I say this
because I believe we should not, to sustain the present price level, use
the cushions that should be available to ease the next recession. If we
do this, we shall be multiplying our problems in the time to come.
But if, in spite of some deflationary aspects in our economy,
inflation continues or if prices are held at present levels by a further
overall credit expansion, then effective monetary and fiscal control would
be essential. I feel that Congress should deal realistically with this
problem at the coming session, no matter how unpleasant the task may be.
If credit growth continues, or if velocity of existing money
increases significantly, and if no additional authority over bank credit
growth is given to the System by Congress, or if because of the activities of nonbank investors further inflation cannot be stopped by such
additional powers, then the authorities would have to face an unpleasant
dilemma. Either they must permit further inflation to develop, or they will
have to adopt the full use of traditional methods of credit control. Only
in this event would it be necessary to follow the extremely risky course
of letting prices and interest rates on Government securities go to the




-upoint where there will be a balance between buyers and sellers in the
market, without significant Federal heserve support.
I desire to say in conclusion that I am fully conscious of the
enormity of the world difficulties which affect our every domestic problem;
that any fiscal, monetary, or credit program designed to establish economic stability at home may be entirely upset by expanding military and
world aid programs without terminal point as to either time or amount;
that the alternative is to bring about a condition of world peace at an
early date, even at the risk of war.
I agree with Mr. Churchill, when he recently said:
"The Western nations will be far more liKely to reach a
lasting settlement without bloodshed if they formulate their
just demand while they have the atomic power and before the
Russian Communists have got it too.11