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TOWARD A MORE EFFICIENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM

Remarks by

MARK H. WILLES
President
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis

at the

Montana Bankers Association
7^th Annual Convention

Big Sky, Montana
3une 23, 1977

Introduction
I am delighted to be in Montana again.
trip here

in two months since

Reserve Bank of Minneapolis.

This is my third

I became president of

the Federal

That should give you some idea of how

important I think Montana, her people and institutions are.
My visits here have helped me to understand why you are
all

so proud

people

are

of your

equally

state.

The

delightful.

and gracious to me,

scenery

Everyone

is

fantastic,

and

the

has been very friendly

and considering some of the things that have

been attributed to me in the press, your kindness has been all the
more impressive and welcome.
Even though I was born and raised in Utah,

since I have

spent the last 18 years in New York and Pennsylvania, people tend
to assume

that

I have

a rather

particularly of agriculture.
something

about

the

farm

jaundiced

view of

the West,

and

Perhaps that is why every time I say
sector

of

our

economy,

there

is

a

tendency to misread my statements and my intentions.
Consequently,

me

to do

today is to refrain from saying anything about agriculture.

I am

very

I am

concerned,

deeply

interested

farmer

or

probably

however,

rancher.

in,

and

that

the

you

should

sympathetic

In addition,

safest

for

understand

toward,

I think

thing

that

the plight of

there

is an

the

important

issue involved that has implications for the relationship between
the Federal Reserve and banks.
comments about agriculture.




So I would like to make a few brief

Let me

begin by referring

earlier this month
headline:
number

of

headline.

in a Montana newspaper

"Farmers not hurting,
people

to an article

were

that appeared

that had the

following

says Minneapolis Fed chief."

understandably

upset

when

they

saw

A

that

And so was I, for it did not accurately reflect what I

had said nor,

for that matter,

that followed.

what was contained in the article

What the article did say, and what I had said, was

that:
1.

Montana farmers and ranchers are in better
shape
year

2.

than

they

had

been

earlier

in

the

(because of the "miracle" of rain).

Relatively
having

few

farmers

critical

their

to

and

us

most

they

accommodate

the

farmers

ranchers

and

ranchers

difficulty

operations,

reported

or

are

financing
banks

are

financial
without

have

able

to

needs

of

too

much

strain.
Neither of these statements was intended to imply that I
don't think farmers and ranchers
very

difficult

situation.

prices and drought,
must

really

In

in Montana and elsewhere
the

face

of

rising

costs,

lower

there is no question that many in agriculture

struggle.

To

say

that

some

rain and accommodating

bankers make the struggle a little less severe in no way
that the struggle is not very hard.

great admiration for those who strive so hard to do so.

2

implies

I doubt very much that I could

survive under these conditions as a farmer or a rancher.




face a

I have

But I hope

to do more than stand on the side and admire.
like

to

see

our

Bank

play

a more

farmers

and

ranchers

find

lasting,

I would very much

constructive
long-run

role

in

solutions

helping
to

their

problems.

More Dialogue with Banks
One of the lessons I learned from my recent experiences
in Montana
plete —

is that I personally must do a better —

job

others.

of

my

It also occurs to me —

to make today —
better

communicating

job

bankers —

and

intentions

to

and this is the main point I want

that we in the Federal Reserve System need to do a

of

and

thoughts

a more com­

communicating
we

in

turn

our

might

ideas
profit

and
from

intentions
more

to

open

and

continuous communication from you.
For example,
Fed

often

appear

to

I have been told that actions taken by the
be

very

abrupt

and

arbitrary.

That

is

unfortunate, because I really think it is fair to say that a great
deal of careful thought and analysis goes into our decisions.
I'm

afraid

that

once

a decision

is made,

explain it to those who are affected

we

sometimes

Yet

fail

to

in such a way that they can

understand and even support what we are doing.
At the Minneapolis Fed, we are going to try very hard to
improve

in

this

area —

to

communicate

with

you

clearly,

completely, and early so that you can have a full understanding of
what we are doing —
is appropriate —
time

to prepare

so you can impact on our decisions where that

and
for

so you

changes

can have

that we must

world.




the maximum possible

3

all make

lead

in a dynamic

The Future World of Fed Services
In

that

spirit,

I would

like

to

spend

a

few minutes

today taking a look into the future at some possible changes in the
service

relationship between

the Federal Reserve and banks.

The

things I discuss may never take place the way I outline them, but I
want to explore with you some things that could have a significant
impact on how you conduct some parts of your business, especially
in your relationship to us.
opportunity

to impact on

I do this now so you can have maximum

the decisions

that

are ultimately made

and to plan your own adjustments to changes that could take place.
It's

no surprise

to you when

I state

that banking

become an increasingly dynamic and competitive business.
Montana,

as

elsewhere

intermediaries
away

at

the

in

the

markets

and

profits

banks

themselves

are

competition

among

themselves.

For

two

California

weeks
to

other

Here in
financial

including credit unions are aggressively chipping

commercial

Montana

nation,

has

ago,

handle

I

learned

some

of

commercial

engaging
example,
of

financial

the

banks.

in

more

during

my

effort

services

And
fierce

visit

to
in

of

a

bank

for

a

Montana

retailer that are currently being handled by a Montana bank.
This

kind

of

competition,

coupled

with

the

tremendous

amount of experimentation and innovation currently taking place in
the development of electronic and other kinds of banking services,
is all very good for those consumers and businesses that must buy
banking

services.

But

it

makes

commercial bankers.




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life

difficult

indeed

for

The question,

then,

is how can banks and the Fed best

work together to best meet the needs of both bank customers and the
banks themselves?
To explore that question, let me lay out several assump­
tions or principles about which I hope we can all agree.
First,

it

competitive banking

is

in

the public

system.

interest

to have

a highly

That is true because we can rely on

the forces of competition to help insure that bank customers have
access

to

the

widest

possible

set

of

services

at

the

lowest

possible cost.
Second,
ment

where

therefore, we want to create a banking environ­

competition

among

banks

and

between

banks

and

other

financial institutions is keen and widespread.
But

third,

we

don't want

competition

to significantly

impair the soundness or safety of our financial structure.
have very emotional
severe disruption

People

feelings about their financial accounts,

to the

financial

sector

can cause

and

unfortunate

economic consequences on a widespread basis.
Fourth,
significant role
services
growth.

in

we must depend on the banking system to play a
in the provision of payments,

addition

Therefore,

to

helping

finance

savings and other

economic

activity

and

banks must be able to earn sufficient profits

so that they can perform their services effectively.
Finally,

fifth,

we should ensure

that all participants

in the financial arena operate under sets of rules that are fair
and

equitable,

so

that

no

one

group

advantage at the expense of another.




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has

an

unfair

competitive

As
these
them

I

said,

assumptions
out,

I

think

we

could

or principles.

because

I

think

they

And
can

find
it

broad

is

help

agreement

important

guide

us

to

through

on

spell
some

difficult decisions that will have to be made in the days ahead.

Nationwide NOWs
Let me cite a current example of how I believe a clear
recognition of the above principles can help
actions should be taken.

us all decide what

There is much debate at the moment about

whether or not Congress should authorize nationwide NOW accounts.
Many

banks

are

having

out on that issue.

a difficult

time deciding where

And yet, given the principles outlined above,

the basic decision is really quite simple.
more

financial

accounts.

institutions

intent

and

effect.

I'm

transfer

sprouting

up

individuals

all
to

and
over

make

above —

share-draft
the

equity

of

treatment

of

offering

are

course,
type

country.

payments

those

but they

referring,

interest-bearing accounts.

and

already

like NOW accounts,

telephone

outlined

are

First of all, more and

They may not be called NOW accounts and

operate exactly

they come

In

(directly

they may not

very
to

NOW-like

similar

the

payments
essence,
or

in

numerous
that

are

they

allow

indirectly)

from

Given this fact, two of the principles

having
among

to do with
financial

promoting

competition

institutions —

make

it

clear that some form of national NOW account legislation should be
passed.

Such legislation would allow more institutions to compete

directly with each other in providing that kind of service.
is

clearly

would

to

the

advantage

also allow all




of

the

institutions

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consumer.

The

That

legislation

to compete on an equal,

or at

least

substantially

advantage
simply

equal,

of commercial

be

taken

away

by

basis.

banks,

And

for

other

that

is

otherwise,

financial

clearly

the

to

the

business will

institutions

which

are

already authorized or which would likely be authorized to provide
that

type

of

service.

So

for

commercial

banks,

it

is

not

a

question of whether such services will be available to the public.
Instead,

it is simply a question of whether or not banks will be

able to provide the service under conditions or terms similar

to

those faced by other financial institutions.
Now of course

these

terms are critical,

for

they will

not only determine the competitive balance among financial insti­
tutions, but they will also determine the ability of banks to make
a fair profit, thereby ensuring their soundness and vitality which
are required by the other principles I outlined.
that

all

commercial

bankers

would

actively

So, I would hope

work

to

shape

and

promote some form of national NOW account legislation so that they
can help ensure that the interests of consumers and the banks are
both protected.

Access and Pricing
There
principles
difficult

are

other

outlined

above

issues.

remainder of my talk

The

one

examples
could

help

I would

of
us
like

how

adherence

see

our

way

to

focus

on

to

the

through
for

the

is that complex set of questions concerning

what services and upon what terms we in the Federal Reserve should
supply services to banks and other financial
nonmember




banks

and

thrifts clamoring

7

to get

institutions.
into our ACHs,

With
and

with some member banks clamoring to get out of the Federal Reserve
System,

the

question

of

Fed

services

has

taken

on

some

very

critical dimensions.
Harking back to the basic principles I outlined earlier,
however, certain things seem to fall into line.
For

example,

if

all

financial

institutions

should

allowed to operate under essentially the same ground rules,

be

then

all financial institutions should probably have access to services
provided by the Federal Reserve.
very strongly,
for

B u t , and I want to emphasize this

access should be on the same terms and conditions

everyone.

No

institution

should

have

to pay more

than

any

I have

not

other institution for the same service.
There
thought of

may

well

perhaps

be

some

alternatives

that

someone here will write and let me know —

but after a great deal of thought and study, I can really only see
one

way

to

ensure

that

all

institutions

are

treated

fairly

in

terms of access to our services, and that is for us to pay interest
on whatever

required reserve balances are held with us, and then

charge on a use basis for the services we provide.
The
absolutely
current

payment

essential

inequity

of
in

pleased
would

that

allow

problem.




the
us

my

between

inequity has gone on for

interest
view,
member

to

begin

if

in

a

has

required

we

and

too long and

administration

on

are

to

nonmember

reserves
eliminate
banks.

is one reason why
now

introduced

substantial

way

to

is
the
That

I am so

a bill

that

rectify

that

Since that provision will not harm nonmember banks and

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will

appropriately

banks,

I would

reduce

hope

that

an

undesirable

all

bankers

position

would

work

for

hard

member
for

its

passage.
The

issue

of pricing

Federal Reserve

services

is more

complicated and more controversial than the payment of interest on
reserves.

And yet, according to the principles we have been using

in our discussion today,

it is equally important.

appropriately price our services,

If we were to

two things would happen.

First, banks and other financial institutions would only
use as much of our

services as they really need.

We might well

find that some of our services are in greater demand than others.
Consequently,
most

needed

demand
to

the

we would expand our provision of services which are
and

contract

is small.

our

This would

advantage

of

both

provision

of

services

where

the

improve the allocation of resources

the

financial

sector

and

the

general

public.
Some
changes

might

ask

in services now.

why

we

don't

The answer

just make

those

is that without

kinds of

charging

a

specific price for a given service, we can't really tell how much
of that service

is really needed

someone will pay for

it)

(as evidenced by the

and how much

fact

is just used because

that
it is

available.
The second thing that might happen,
for services,

is that we might

if we were to charge

find that the private

provide some services at a lower price than we can.
happen,

you would

buy

those

services

from other

sector

can

Should that

banks

or

other

institutions, and we would then drop out of that line of business.




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I'm not sure that such an occurrence is very likely.

We are really

quite efficient producers of services and are getting

better

the

the

time.

For

example,

output

per

man-hour

in

all

Fed's

measurable functions increased by almost 12% in 1976, following an
increase

of

6%

in

1975.

Those

numbers

are considerably

than what was accomplished on average by private
those two years.
great vigor,

better

industry during

The Fed is pursuing operations improvement with

for we feel we have a responsibility to provide our

services in the most effective and efficient way.
But,
things

with

if

the

it

should

turn

same quality

at

out

that

lower

cost,

someone

else

then

is

it

can

do

in your

interest and the public's for others to supply the service.

That

way you get the service at less cost, which would obviously be to
your benefit and that of your customers.

Under a pricing system,

you would have the flexibility to choose the best possible source
for what you need, and competition would work to keep the cost as
low as possible.

Summary
What

I

have

tried

to

say

today

can

be

lot

of

member

line

of

communication

summed

follows:




1.

Montana

has

want

open

an

a

you.

You are important to us.

keep

you

better

informed

share your ideas with us.

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banks.

and

We
with

We want to
have

you

up

as

2.

With

the

way

the

world

is

changing,

we

seem to be moving rapidly into an era when
financial

arrangements

explicit

and

financial
because
e.g.,

equitable.

it

is

reserves
services —

right.

to

be

Equity

institutions

explicit

achieve

need

is

among

required

Explicitness —

payment

of

interest

and

explicit

charging

is

required

in

equity

financial

and

more

in order

institutions

on
for

order

to

to give

all

the

maximum

freedom of choice.
The
little

choppy

challenge

road
for

squarely,

ahead

is going

bankers

and

however,

the

to

be challenging

Fed.

If

we

and even

both

face

a

the

I'm convinced we can end up with a

financial world that is not only different but better than the one
we have today.

And who knows, with your help,

to get back into the good graces of farmers.




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I may even be able