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NOV 1 7 1987

For Release on Delivery
1:00 p.m. E.S.T.
November 16, 1987

Address by

Manuel H. Johnson
Vice Chairman
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

before
Conference on Restructuring the Financial System
sponsored by the
American Enterprise Institute
for Public Policy Research

Washington, DC
November 16, 1987

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It is indeed a pleasure for me to participate in this
conference today.

The program certainly is an impressive one

and I know that a great deal of planning and effort has gone
into organizing it.
I must say that the timing of this meeting is
extraordinary.

Not only is Congress in the middle of heated

debate over the appropriate structure of the financial system,
but also AEI has managed to order up a little financial
turbulence to add to our excitement.
This luncheon speech also seems appropriate.

I'm

sandwiched between your morning session dealing with
"Maintaining Financial Stability" and just before your afternoon
session on central banking, monetary policy, and financial
deregulation.
The severe financial strains of the last few weeks
bring to mind two very important issues relating to the Federal
Reserve and to both your morning and afternoon sessions.

The

first issue involves the financial system's liquidity needs
associated with events like the stock market crash last month.

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In such circumstances, what exactly is the central bank's role
in maintaining stability?
A second important issue relates to the structure of
the financial system.

Specifically, what structure is most

conducive to preserving financial stability in the face of large
shocks?
This afternoon, in the brief time that I have, I want
to talk about both of these issues.
The Importance of Liquidity Availability for Financial Stability
It is generally believed that the net wealth loss
associated with this stock market decline together with its
psychological effects will have significant adverse effects on
both consumption and investment.
Coincident with this decline in stock values, both
long and short-term interest rates fell substantially.

This

event is in part a manifestation of a shift in risk preferences;
that is, a desire to shift out of risky assets into safe or more
liquid, monetary assets.

This is evident not only in an

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increased demand for Treasury securities, but in greater demands
for currency and insured demand and checkable deposits.
Increased demands for excess reserves by banks and other
financial institutions also became noticeable.
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And a widening

of spreads between rates on Treasury securities and other
riskier financial instruments were observed.
Historically such sharp preference shifts involving
increased demands for liquidity have been associated with
financial crises--as in the 1930s--and in some loss of
confidence in the stability of the financial system.

In an age

when liquidity was inelastic and deposits were not insured,
disintermediation and runs on banks sometimes occurred and
confidence in fractional reserve banking systems came into
question.
Fortunately, such severe circumstances have not
occurred in the current episode.
I believe that part of the reason these more severe
conditions have not developed is due to the Federal Reserve's
pursuit of it's liquidity responsibilities in such

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circumstances.

The guaranteed provision of such liquidity was

an original purpose for the creation of central banks.

This

responsibility was spelled out by several early writers, the

most famous being Walter Bagehot in his book, Lombard Street.

Given existing institutional arrangements, monetary

systems are sometimes vulnerable to sharp increases in the
demand for the safest, most liquid assets.

All other things

equal, these increased demands are equivalent to a sharp
monetary contraction and if these demands are not quickly
accommodated, sharp contractionary forces may develop and become
contagious.

In such circumstances it is the responsibility of

the central bank to quickly make funds available to the market

in order to maintain stability.
In terms of October's stock market crash, it appears
that to date, the Fed has been able to accommodate the strong

liquidity demands that have developed.

Available data suggests

that confidence in the financial system is improving.
and gold prices have remained stable.

Quality spreads

Commodity

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have narrowed over the last two weeks.

Banks and thrifts have

attracted deposits and stock prices of these institutions, in
general, have not deteriorated relative to the total market.
It is important to note that the Fed's elastic
liquidity provision role is fully compatible with the pursuit of
price stability.

By preventing systemic financial contraction

that could lead to deflation, this strategy works to ensure that
the mistakes of the 1930s are not repeated, and, in so doing,
helps to promote longer-term price stability.
Financial Stability and the Bank Regulatory Structure
In addition to issues regarding liquidity, the
financial turbulence of the last few weeks highlights the
primary question posed by this conference.

What type of

structure, given the basic safety net, enables the financial
system to best absorb shocks like this recent experience and at
the same time promotes the flexibility and innovative capacity
necessary to maintain competitiveness in today's fast changing,
integrated world financial environment?

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Regarding this question, it is well-known that
diversification reduces risk and hence promotes stability and
resiliency.

Additional product diversification and geographic

diversification would likely enable financial institutions to
better withstand shocks to specific classes of assets or
specific regions of the country.
But those of us who favor additional powers for
banking organizations and other financial firms must be wary
that product deregulation in conjunction with public deposit
insurance and other safety net arrangements potentially can lead
to major problems.
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It is well-known that deposit insurance

itself may lead to riskier portfolio selection because of moral
ha2ard arguments.

And, even if one argues that banks are not

special regarding their financial intermediation role, the point
remains that regulation of banking exists to protect deposits
and the insurance fund.

Therefore, if product deregulation

allows exploitation of insured deposits in a way that leads to
the adoption of risky activities, public (taxpayer) underwriting
of such activities is certainly a possible and very undesirable
outcome.

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One extreme example of this relates to the situation

in which a number of thrift institutions have been allowed to

remain open, even though their capital is exhausted.

These

firms have been permitted to raise funds through insured

deposits and to invest in risky real estate ventures.

This

activity, in which the owners of these thrifts are betting not
their own capital but that of the FSLIC in the hope of

resurrecting themselves, constitutes an extreme and obvious form
of moral hazard.
One approach to this problem is to allow product
and service .deregulation through a holding company structure so
that (insured) bank activities could be conducted in a
subsidiary insulated from its (uninsured) nonbank activities.
Variants of this approach have been proposed by several experts.
In skeletal form, such a formulation contains the
following elements:
(1)

It assumes and is based on the view that a

"fire wall" can be established that would fully and
effectively insulate the insured depository from the

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activities and possible problems of its affiliates.

(2)

Under this arrangement, depository subsidiaries

of holding companies would continue to be treated as
special, therefore reguiring (a) deposit insurance;

(b) access to the Fed's discount window; and (c)

supervision by federal banking authorities.
(3)

The proposal allows other units of the holding

company to engage in any activity, no matter how
risky, including commercial activities.

It also

allows for banks to be owned by commercial firms.

The approach provides a framework for significantly
expanding powers while, at the same time, limiting the scope of
the safety net and governmental supervision and regulation.

In

other words, it enables bank holding companies to assume broader
diversification and profit-making opportunities without
endangering the health or safety of the depository affiliate or
the payments system.

And it does not extend the safety net

designed for depositories to nondepository financial firms and

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commercial activities.

It seeks to foster a significant role

for free market forces in determining the viability of various
new, nonbanking powers.

Of course, there is wide disagreement as to whether
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such insulation can, in fact, be effectively carried out.

Some

argue that such a "fire wall" can be implemented by strictly
enforcing laws and regulations designed to restrict transactions

between banks and their nonbank affiliates.

in practice, it is not feasible.

Others argue that

Still others argue that while

it is possible, the creation of such insulation removes the
benefits and synergies of affiliation of depository institutions
with nonbank firms.

Full reconciliation of these alternative views has not
yet occurred.

Nevertheless, it should be noted that this

approach does enable policymakers to create a safe financial
structure able to withstand financial shocks while still

promoting product and geographic deregulation.

And it both

limits governmental intervention and guarantees while fostering
competitive forces that in the long-run should maintain the

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necessary health and resilience of our financial system.

At a

minimum, such proposals or their variants merit extended

consideration and discussion.

Hopefully, some of this

discussion will take place today and tomorrow at this
conference.
Conclusions
In summary, we have all witnessed considerable

financial turbulence in recent weeks.

I believe the Federal

Reserve has responded in an expeditious and dependable manner in
carrying out its liquidity provision responsibilities.

In so

doing, I believe our actions have worked to promote financial
stability.

While the stock market shock was substantial, there is
little reason to believe that we need to slow down the

deregulatory initiatives currently under consideration.

At

least with regard to the question of security powers, it can be
argued that doing nothing actually entails greater risk to the
financial system than moving ahead.

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Further restructuring of the financial environment
certainly needs to be considered in order to create the type of
financial system able to absorb shocks and maintain stability
while promoting flexibility and competitiveness.
Thank you.