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LIBRARY MAR 81989 FED ER AI DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION TESTIMONY OF L. WILLIAM^SEIDMAN CHAIRMAN FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION WASHINGTON, D.C. \ THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSED "FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS REFORM, RECOVERY AND ENFORCEMENT ACT OF 1989“ BEFORE THE Œ) ' „ 0 SUBCOMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS SUPERVISION, REGULATION AND INSURANCE COMMITTEE ON BANKING, FINANCE AND URBAN AFFAIRS UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 10:00 a.m. March 8, 1989. Room 2128 , Rayburn House Office Building Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee. I am pleased to testify today on President Bush's proposed "Financial Institutions Reform, Recovery and Enforcement Act of 1989" ("President's Proposal"). FDIC SUPPORTS PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation ("FDIC") supports the President's proposed legislation for the savings and loan ("S&L") industry and the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation ("FSLIC"). We believe it is a sound, constructive and farsighted proposal that should be enacted. The President's Proposal provides for prompt action to resolve the S&L situation and proposes structural and regulatory reforms designed to make the federal deposit insurance system cost-effective. Also, Mr. Chairman, your "Alternative Thrift Recovery Proposal" ("Annunzio Alternative Proposal") is an important contribution to the process. Our only reservations about the President's Proposal concern a few provisions relating to the independence of the deposit insurer. As pointed out below, these proposals would hamper the FDIC's ability to perform, at the very time it is being asked to undertake major new responsibilities. Before commenting specifically on the proposed legislation, we first would like to describe the FDIC's recommendations for structural and regulatory reforms to the deposit insurance system. In addition, we will address the size of the problem, the President's financing proposal and the ongoing - 2 - interagency oversight effort relative to insolvent S&Ls. Finally, we will provide our views on the FDIC's current and future supervisory capabilities. STRUCTURAL AND REGULATORY REFORMS It has become clear that changes must be made to the federal deposit insurance system to ensure that it is cost-effective and self-financed. During the past year the FDIC has examined ways to improve the federal deposit insurance system. The product of that review — our recently released study Deposit Insurance for the Nineties: Meeting the Challenge — numerous recommendations for reform. is being submitted for the record. contains A copy of the study's Executive Summary A draft of the complete study has been provided to each member of this Subcommittee previously. The FDIC study sets forth certain principles necessary for a sound deposit insurance system for the future. The first principle is that the deposit insurer should be organizationally and financially independent. Thus, the insurer should be empowered to operate, as nearly as possible, like a private insurer. In accordance with this principle, the insurer needs control over its revenues. control costs. 1. Also, the insurer must be given the basic tools necessary to These requirements will be elaborated upon below. Independence of the Insurer The FDIC study recommends that the federal deposit insurer be made as organizationally, operationally and financially independent as possible. guard against conflicts-of-interest, the insurer should not be under the To - 3 - control of a chartering authority. Translated in terms of the issue facing the Congress today, this means the FSLIC should be separated from the Federal Home Loan Bank Board. In fact, in the three alternative plans for agency structural reforms set out in our study, the one constant was that the FSLIC was to be separated from the Bank Board. The FDIC expressed a preference for an independent FSLIC, but also recognizes the view of others that there are potential benefits in an administrative merger of the FSLIC into the FDIC. To ensure political independence, the federal deposit insurer should continue to be funded by premium payments from insured financial institutions. Thus, the insurer should be independent from the Congressional appropriations process — as the FDIC is now. While the insurer will be accountable to the Congress on an annual basis, it should remain free frpm annual budgetary controls since it receives no general tax revenues. In this connection, we have recommended that the insurer's trust funds be separately budgeted and not be part of the general operational federal budget. For decades, the insurance funds have been depositing their unspent premium income into the U.S. Treasury. These "deposits" are counted as income to the Government rather than savings reserved for future problems in the industry. When funds are withdrawn from the Treasury to deal with a problem institution, that action is counted as a Government expenditure. Instead, it should be treated as a withdrawal of money on deposit. In fact, the treatment of trust funds — like the FDIC fund ~ current federal budget system is affirmatively misleading. under the It provides misinformation about operational revenues and expenditures of the federal budget. Thus, we have suggested that the Congress consider setting up a - 4 - separate budget for the deposit insurance funds. For macroeconomic purposes, however, analysts could combine the new deposit insurance separate budget with the general federal operating budget. 2. Enhanced Control Over Revenues To ensure that the deposit insurer has adequate resources, it should have additional controls over its revenues. Most importantly, the deposit insurer must have the authority to adjust insurance premiums, within prescribed limits, to reflect experience and costs on a continuing basis. had such authority — If the FDIC rather than being subject to the 1/12 of 1 percent assessment rate that has been in the law since 1935 — 1989 premiums would be expected to increase significantly based on our 1988 loss experience. Year-end results for 1988 indicate a net loss from operations of approximately $4 billion to the FDIC insurance fund. That means that the fund dropped from $18.3 billion to about $14 billion last year. Furthermore, the FDIC's fund dropped from 1.1 percent of insured deposits to a little over .8 percent of insured deposits during that one-year period. This demonstrates the need for a premium structure that can respond to the current environment and that has sufficient flexibility to maintain an acceptable level of reserves. Other powers are necessary to enhanced revenue control. are secured by assets — assets which otherwise would be available to the insurer in the event of a bank failure — base. Borrowings that should be part of the assessment The insurer also should be able to require new institutions obtaining federal insurance to pay an entrance fee in order to maintain an adequate reserve-to-deposits ratio. Finally, the FDIC should be specifically - 5 authorized to borrow from both the Department of the Treasury and the Federal Reserve. 3. Improved Ability to Control Costs The federal deposit insurer also must have additional tools necessary to control costs. In many respects, these mirror those that are available to private insurers. The fundamental tool is the ability to control the granting and revocation of insurance. At a minimum, the insurer should be able to set standards for insurability which must be certified by the primary federal supervisor as having been met. The insurer also must have the ability to promptly terminate insurance privileges when an institution is operating in an unsafe and unsound manner. The current procedures for terminating federal deposit insurance should be streamlined to take no more than six months from the start of a proceeding to removal. The insurer also needs tools to determine whether an institution is posing an inordinate risk to the fund and to require the cessation of any activities that pose such risk. institutions. Thus, the insurer must be able to examine ¿11 insured Furthermore, it must have the express authority to determine that certain activities — including more speculative activities authorized by states for state-chartered institutions — pose an undue risk to the insurance fund and to require that institutions cease those activities within the insured institution itself. The insurer should be able to require that any such activity be conducted outside of the insured entity, in an affiliate or subsidiary, subject to "firewalls" designed to minimize the exposure of the insured entity to the activity that is being conducted in the separate, but affiliated, corporate entity. Those firewalls should include: (1) a - 6 - prohibition against the use of the insured entity's regulatory-required capital to capitalize the subsidiary or affiliate; (2) assurances that transactions between the insured entity and its subsidiary or affiliate are on an arm's length basis and do not jeopardize the insured institution; and (3) a requirement that the institution divest the subsidiary or affiliate if the insurer determines that those requirements are not being met or that the affiliated entity poses a threat to the safety and soundness of the insured institution. Additional tools also are necessary to enable the insurer to better control costs when dealing with failed institutions. It must have the power to require that all federally insured institutions owned by a common parent indemnify the insurer against any losses resulting from the failure of an affiliated insured institution. The FDIC believes this is preferable to the proposal circulated last year that would have required the consolidation of affiliated insured institutions within a holding company complex. Indemnification for such losses is a more direct and efficient way of accomplishing the same objective. In resolving failures, the FDIC also should have the ability to distinguish between depositors and other claimants. Specifically, depositor claims should be able to be transferred to another institution while other claimants share on a pro-rata basis with the FDIC in asset liquidations. All of the federal regulatory agencies also need enhanced enforcement authorities. The FDIC recommends that any legislative package adopted by this Committee include enforcement authorities and penalties substantially similar to those in the enforcement title from S. 1886, as passed by the Senate last - 7 - year, and from H.R. 5094 as adopted by the House Banking Committee. These measures initially were submitted to the Congress jointly by all the federal regulatory agencies. PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL Ttie President's Proposal provides for funding the resolution of insolvent S&Ls and extensive structural and regulatory changes to the deposit insurance and thrift regulatory systems. The FDIC supports the proposed legislation as a sound and viable measure that should be enacted promptly by the Congress. As noted, however, we have some points of disagreement with the proposal, each of which bears upon the independence of the FDIC. While those points will be addressed in detail below, in short, they involve (1) appointment and removal of the FDIC Chairman; (2) restrictive limitations on the issuance of debt; and (3) reporting requirements. As might be suspected, the President's Proposal is not perfect from the FDIC's perspective. Clearly, some compromises had to be made along the way. We recognize that compromise is part of the process and none, in our view, compromises the essential soundness of the proposal. For example, in the area of increased insurance authorities over the banking industry, the FDIC has been given substantially greater authority with respect to thrifts previously insured by the FSLIC than it has, or will have under the proposal, with respect to banks. Another example — state-chartered thrifts could have followed the pattern of state-chartered banks and thus be placed - 8 - under the primary federal supervision of the FDIC. But they are not. We believe the legislation has reached workable solutions in each of these cases. While we know this Subcommittee is acutely aware of the need for expeditious legislative action to resolve the FSLIC situation, we would be remiss if we did not stress that point. Nothing of major substance can be accomplished until the Congress acts to provide funding and guidance. Now we would like to turn to more specific comments on the President's Proposal for structural and regulatory reform. In its most fundamental components, the package incorporates most of the recommendations made in the FDIC study. It specifically provides for (1) the independence of the thrift insurer subject to the problems noted; (2) enhanced deposit insurance revenues and better control by the insurer over those revenues; and (3) additional tools to better control the insurer's costs. 1. Independence of the Insurer The President's Proposal would separate the FSLIC from the FHLBB and consolidate the FSLIC with the FDIC for insurance and case resolution purposes. While providing a single management and administrative structure, it would maintain the FDIC and FSLIC funds as separate insurance pools that could not be commingled. Each pool would have its own premium income stream and the expenses and expenditures of their respective institutions would be charged against their respective pools. In separating the FSLIC from the Bank Board, the proposal also establishes a new structure for the chartering of federal thrifts and the supervision of all - 9 - federal and state-chartered thrifts and their holding companies. The Federal Home Loan Bank Board would be dissolved and replaced by a single Chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank System ("FHLBS") who would be under the Secretary of the Treasury — just as is now the case for the Comptroller of the Currency ("OCC"). Making the thrift insurer independent is an essential step in ensuring that a situation like the one we are facing today does not recur. As stated earlier, from an agency point of view, the FDIC would have preferred to see the FSLIC separate from the FDIC. The judgment of the Administration has been that in terms of start-up time and costs, administratively merging the FSLIC into an existing insurance structure at the FDIC is more cost-effective. We will work diligently to ensure that result. The President's Proposal does not provide for a separate budget — recommended by our study — as for the FDIC insurance funds. Although the proposed legislation would make important progress in ensuring the independence of the former FSLIC, three provisions in the legislation run counter to the principle of establishing an independent deposit insurer. In fact, in each of these instances, the proposal would make changes to the existing independence of the FDIC that would limit its independence. Attached are suggested amendments to the applicable sections of the President's Proposal that would make those three areas acceptable to the FDIC. First, the bill would permit the President to appoint and remove, with or without cause, the Chairman and Vice Chairman from those positions on the reconstituted FDIC Board of Directors. At present, the Board of the FDIC - elects its Chairman. 10 - We believe such removal authority could compromise significantly the independence of the FDIC, and recommend that it be deleted. In fact, when that removal authority is coupled with the fact that two of the other Board members are under Treasury, the FDIC Board, in effect, could be controlled by the Administration. If a change is needed, we would suggest that a system similar to the Federal Reserve System — appointment of the Chairman and Vice Chairman for a term with the consent of the Senate — adopted. be The attached amendment would accomplish this result. Second, another provision of the President's Proposal would place limits on the FDIC's borrowing authority. We believe it ii appropriate to limit the FDIC's ability to issue notes and other debt obligations. However, the proposed limitations are impractical and overly restrictive and could seriously undermine the safe and cost-effective operations of the insurer in the near term. To put the proposed limit in perspective, under today's conditions it would restrict the FDIC's obligations to $7 billion. cap already. We are almost at the proposed Currently the FDIC has about $6 billion in obligations. In each case the liability was properly recorded with the appropriate charge taken against net worth. The FDIC's $14 billion of net worth represents the unencumbered assets available in excess of that needed to satisfy all actual and contingent liabilities. In other words, the FDIC has not used debt because it does not have the necessary resources, but because of other valid business reasons. Examples of such reasons include providing failed bank acquirors additional flexibility in markets with weak loan demand, avoiding untimely portfolio 11 sales and even maintaining some additional leverage to ensure buyers hold up their end of the bargain. We would hate to lose this flexibility. Thus, instead, we recommend a very simple borrowing limit: No notes can be issued which will put the agency into a deficit net worth position. attached amendment reflects this recommendation. The Thus, the FDIC would be able to obligate neither itself nor the general government revenues in an amount beyond the limits of the FDlC's resources as determined by GAO audit. By imposing the limit that we recommend, the insurer could not issue debt if it does not have its own resources to repay that debt and, thus, could noi obligate taxpayer funds. Third, the President's Proposal would require the FDIC to submit quarterly reports to both the Secretary of the Treasury and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget on the FDIC's "financial operating plans and forecasts . . . taking into account the Corporation's financial commitments, guarantees and other contingent liabilities." We believe it should be sufficient to file such reports with the Administration through the Treasury and, to save costs and paperwork, the documents should be the financial reports prepared by the FDIC in the ordinary course of its business. Finally, in connection with the issue of independence of the insurer, we appreciate the objective of the provision in the' Annunzio Alternative Proposal that would authorize $25 million of Treasury funds to hire additional examiners. We believe such special funding is unnecessary due to the increased premium income the FDIC would receive under the President's Proposal. That increased premium income should be sufficient to offset the additional costs generated by the FDIC's new responsibilities. Importantly, 12 - the President's Proposal would grant the FDIC significant authority and flexibility under prescribed circumstances to increase premiums when necessary. 2. Enhanced Revenue Provisions The President's Proposal would establish a new insurance premium structure that appears viable for both the FDIC and FSLIC insurance fund pools to be designated for the present, respectively, as the Bank Insurance Fund ("BIF") and the Savings Association Insurance Fund ("SAIF"). The insurance premium paid by banks into BIF would increase to 12 basis points in 1990 and to 15 basis points in 1991. Premiums on institutions in SAIF would remain at 20.8 basis points through 1990, increasing to 23 basis points for 1991 through 1993 and then dropping to 18 in 1994. Furthermore, the FDIC would be provided with flexibility to raise the premiums above these levels if extraordinary circumstances raised the specter of serious future losses to the fund. On the other hand, once the funds of either BIF or SAIF exceed the target reserve level of 1.25 percent, then assessments could be rebated to the institutions insured by that particular fund. The FDIC study recommended that premium rates be increased to more accurately reflect loss experience. and we support it. The President's Proposal calls for such an increase As discussed in more detail later in our testimony, raising bank premiums from eight basis points to 12, and then 15, seems - 13 - reasonable and prudent and very close to the result under the recommendations contained in our study. Furthermore, as the FDIC requested, the proposal would provide the insurer with flexibility to increase rates under specified ci rcumstances. The FDIC also believes the premiums charged to FSLIC insured institutions ~ which rise to 23 basis points for a three-year period and then decline to a point lower than current premiums — are both reasonable and apparently within the capacity of those institutions to pay. cannot be evaluated in a vacuum. However, those increased premiums There should be careful consideration of the effect on the industry's viability of these premiums coupled with the significantly increased capital requirements and loss of income from the FHLB System. As we have consistently stated, the cost of resolving the S&L situation should be borne to the greatest extent possible by that industry. Just as importantly, the banks should not be called upon to bear the cost of that resolution. Appropriately, under the President's Proposal, the revenues generated from bank premiums will go to build BIF and not to pay for the thrift problem. Finally, the FDIC would be permitted, within its discretion, to charge a fee for institutions moving from one fund to the other. In its study, the FDIC recommended that fees be permitted in order to maintain a specified reserves-to-deposits level in the insurance fund. 14 3. Improved Provisions to Control Costs The President's Proposal provides for improved provisions to control insurance costs. As discussed above, the FDIC's study suggests numerous changes that should be made to the deposit insurance system to enable the insurer to better control costs. A primary cost control mechanism is to permit the insurer to operate more like a private insurer — revocation of insurance. with control over the granting and The insurer also must be able to examine insured institutions to assess risk to the fund. be subject to adequate standards — — The insured institution itself must such as capital, accounting and disclosure and the insurer must have sufficient authority to enforce those standards. An additional dimension to controlling insurance costs is requiring increased capital. In addition, when the insurer's resources have to be used to resolve a troubled institution, there are measures that can be taken to minimize the cost to the fund. Finally, stronger enforcement provisions assist the insurer in controlling costs. The proposed legislation contains important new cost control tools in each of these areas. In fact, it goes a long way in providing the FDIC with the necessary tools to allow it to better control costs. The Annunzio Alternative Proposal would go even further in providing the FDIC with those tools by granting the FDIC authority over national and State member banks parallel to its new authority over S&Ls. As previously stated, this was an issue on which we compromised with other regulators with different views. - 15 Enhanced Ability to Control the Granting and Revocation of Insurance. The President's Proposal provides enhanced ability to control fund membership. The FDIC would be able to deny insurance coverage to any S&L, both state and federal. As is the case currently with state-chartered banks, state-chartered thrifts would be required to apply directly to the FDIC for insurance. However, the FDIC also would be authorized to review and to deny any application for a federal S&L charter that would result in eligibility for insurance if the FDIC determines that specified statutory standards have not been met. While under the proposal insurance for national and state Fed member banks will continue to be automatic, the OCC and the Federal Reserve Board ("FRB") would be required to consider a new and additional standard — deposit insurance fund — risk to the before granting a national bank charter or Federal Reserve membership. The FDIC would be provided with the authority to immediately suspend deposit insurance if an insured institution has no tangible shareholders' equity. Also, the FDIC would be able to promptly remove insurance from any insured institution that is engaging in unsafe or unsound practices, operating in an unsafe or unsound condition or otherwise causing undue risk to the insurance fund. Under current statutory procedures, termination proceedings can take anywhere from two-to-three years to complete. An expedited hearing procedure would be established under the proposed legislation that would permit revocation within approximately six months of the filing of a notice of intent to terminate. - 16 - Improved Ability to Assess Risk. Under the President's Proposal, the FDIC would be provided with the necessary tools to examine and assess risk in thrifts. The FDIC would be entitled to copies of all examination reports filed with the FHLBS and would have the right, upon notification to the FHLBS, to examine all insured thrifts for insurance purposes. This examination authority is the same as the FDIC's current authority with regard to national banks and state member banks. However, since in the past there have been some questions about the FDIC's authority to examine independently such banks to protect the insurance fund, the FDIC would like to have legislative history making this clear. In addition to its new examination authority over thrifts, the FDIC would be authorized to request that the FHLBS or a state supervisory authority take any enforcement action applicable to any insured institution or its officers and directors. If the appropriate authority declines to take such enforcement action, the FDIC would be permitted to initiate that action independently. We believe this additional authority will be very helpful. Improved Regulatory Standards Applicable to Thrift Institutions. The proposed legislation appropriately applies bank-like regulatory standards to thrift institutions. It also provides additional powers to ensure safe and sound operations. Under the proposal, the FHLBS would be required to establish capital standards for thrift institutions that are no less stringent than those for national banks. The standards would be required to be fully implemented by June 1, 1991 — although thrifts would have ten years within which to amortize their 17 - goodwill. Thrifts also would be required to conform to accounting and disclosure standards now applicable to banks and the FHLBS would have to adopt supervisory policies equal to those now applied to banks. We support high and consistent capital standards for S&Ls and banks. We must be sure, however, that the S&L industry can satisfy the bill's requirements within the time permitted without unduly damaging the viability of the weaker segment of the industry. Since this is a complex determination, appropriate flexibility should be provided the insurer so that the proper time-frame and balance can be assured. The concept contained in the Annunzio Alternative Proposal of a Capital Adequacy Review Board may be helpful in this respect since it could provide needed regulatory flexibility with respect to the new capital requirements on S&Ls, although we prefer that the flexibility be provided to the regulators. The FDIC would have additional risk-reduction authorities under the President's Proposal relative to thrifts that it does not now have explicitly — and would not be given under the proposal — with respect to banks. Specifically, the FDIC would be able to prohibit or restrict the growth of assets by a thrift institution that does not meet minimum capital standards established by the FDIC. We believe the authority for the FDIC to establish such minimum capital standards is particularly important. Furthermore, the FDIC would have the explicit authority to determine that state-authorized activities that are not permissible for federally chartered S&Ls pose an undue risk to the insurance fund and to require that the thrift cease conducting those activities within the insured entity itself. The FDIC 18 - believes that this last authority also is very important. We suggest that such activities be allowed in subsidiaries or affiliates of holding companies with appropriate safeguards through tough firewalls. Improved Ability to Buy Thrifts. The President's Proposal takes steps toward expanding the pool of private capital that would be available to rescue the thrift industry. First, additional nonbank holding companies may be interested in acquiring thrifts once the cross-marketing and tandem operation restrictions of the Competitive Equality Banking Act ("CEBA") are lifted. Second, two years after enactment, bank holding companies would be permitted to acquire healthy thrift institutions, without the imposition of the tandem operation restrictions now imposed by the FRB. While these two steps are helpful, the FDIC believes that bank holding companies should be permitted to acquire failed or failing S&Ls immediately, without the cross-marketing, activity and branching restrictions or any other restrictions that have been routinely imposed by the FRB. To date, when bank holding companies are permitted to acquire failed or failing thrifts, the Federal Reserve prohibits them from changing the thrifts name in any way that would lead thrift customers to believe that the institution is a commercial bank. However, the FRB then also requires the thrift to operate as if it is a bank, subject to bank branching and activity limitations. The FDIC thinks that the imposition of cross-marketing, activity and branching limitations on the acquisition of failing and failed thrifts by bank holding companies unwisely curtails the ability of banks to buy thrifts and, thus, raises the insurers' costs. - 19 - The Annunzio Alternative Proposal would take a positive step beyond the President's Proposal by permitting a bank holding company, immediately upon enactment of the legislation, to acquire a healthy thrift as long as the bank holding company also acquired a comparably sized insolvent thrift. After the two years, the requirement that the holding company also purchase an insolvent thrift no longer would apply. Sound Protection for the Insurance Fund in Handling Failed Banks. The President's Proposal contains the fund indemnification provision that the FDIC believes is vitally important in dealing with failed insured depository institutions that are commonly controlled. The proposal would require that all such institutions that are under common control guarantee the insurer against loss in the event of a failure of any other insured institutions so commonly controlled. The proposal also includes another very important measure that would help the FDIC to minimize the funds' exposure in failed bank resolution cases. That provision would allow the FDIC to distinguish between depositors and other claimants in resolving failures. Specifically, depositors claims could be transferred to another institution while other claimants would share on a pro-rata basis with the FDIC upon liquidation of the failed institution's assets. It is important to point out that this is not the "depositor preference" measure that the FDIC recommended during the 99th Congress. Under depositor preference statutes, other claimants are subordinated to the FDIC. Under this proposal, other claimants would share pro-rata with the FDIC. Enhanced Enforcement. The proposed legislation also would include enhanced enforcement provisions very similar to those included in the bill that was - 20 - adopted by the House Banking Committee and the Senate in the last Congress. These measures originally were proposed jointly to the Congress by all of the federal financial regulatory agencies. We believe that those measures, as well as the enhanced civil and criminal penalties contained in the proposal, are important to the agencies' ability to deal with mismanagement, waste, fraud and insider abuse. We question, however, whether the amount of some of the new civil penalties are not too Draconian. BUDGETARY IMPACT OF PROBLEM We now will turn to the size of the S&L problem and the President's proposal for financing that problem. Size of the problem. In order to estimate fully the budgetary implications of the thrift problem, ascertaining the size of the insurance loss 1s critical. At the beginning of 1988, there were approximately 500 insolvent thrifts under generally accepted accounting principles ("GAAP") with assets over $200 billion. During 1988, the Federal Home Loan Bank Board ("FHLBB") took action on more than 200 S&Ls at a reported cost of over $39 billion on a present value basis. We understand that the General Accounting Office ("GAO") soon will release a cost analysis of S&L transactions during 1988. As of the end of the third quarter of 1988, there were about 220 thrifts that were insolvent under regulatory accounting principles ("RAP"), not including those thrifts handled by the FHLBB in 1988, and another 119 GAAP insolvent thrifts. In addition, there would be approximately another 100 insolvent S&Ls under banking standards — namely, if goodwill were eliminated. Our latest - 21 estimates suggest that current operating losses at RAP and GAAP insolvent S&Ls are about $200 million per month. That figure will be higher as interest rates rise or as S&Ls experience unusual deposit outflows, as they have recently, and must fund with higher cost deposits. We have stated in the past that reliable cost estimates of resolving the insolvent S&Ls should be made by on-site examinations. We are in the process of making such estimates pursuant to the joint oversight effort discussed below. Our best estimates at this time are in the same range as the Treasury Department's estimated cost. See the attached Charts A and B. When discussing cost figures, it is important not to confuse present value with actual dollars spent over the life of the workout. provide information on those cost figures. appropriate figure to focus on — Charts A and B The present value is the it represents the cost in today's dollars. The actual dollar figure mixes apples and oranges because a dollar spent in the future is worth less than a dollar today. For example, consider buying a house that sells for $100,000. either pay cash or finance it. One could If the purchase is financed with, say, a 30-year fixed rate mortgage at 10 percent annual rate, the monthly payment will be approximately $875. $316,000. Over the thirty years, the payments add up to Even though the person who finances the house outlays, over the life of the mortgage, more than three times the number of dollars than the person who pays cash, we do not say that the house costs three time as much for people who finance. - 22 - The cost estimate which is projected by the President's proposal is based on today's dollars. If the rescue plan is financed, the actual dollars outlayed will be substantially higher than that amount, but the cost will not be. Financing proposal♦ Regarding the financing package contained in the President's Proposal, the Treasury Department and the OMB are in the best position to comment. From our viewpoint, that financing proposal, while complex, appears viable and sound. It provides for what appears to be an equitable sharing of the financial burden between the S&L industry and the Treasury. However, the plan should assure that ultimately the "Savings Association Insurance Fund" be an independent, self-funded insurance fund. The attached Chart C provides a pictorial of the sources and uses of funds under the proposed financing plan. Ability of banks and S&Ls to pav increased premiums. The President's Proposal calls for increased insurance premiums for both banks and S&Ls. The increased premiums for the S&Ls will be used to partially offset the cost of that industry s problems. The banks' increased premiums will be used to strengthen the FDIC insurance fund. Both premium increases will add to general federal revenues for budgetary purposes. In our recently released study on deposit insurance, we concluded that FDIC deposit insurance premiums should be adjusted for the risk and costs incurred by the insurance fund. The FDIC spent $7 billion dollars last year, and our fund declined by about $4 billion, or over 20 percent. Our fund's reserves at year-end will be reduced to 83 cents per $100 of insured deposits, well below - 23 - desired levels. Without regard to the S&L industry problems, the FDIC study recommended that bank premium rates be increased to reflect more accurately recent loss experience of the FDIC fund. The President's Proposal calls for such an increase — proposal. and we support this Raising bank premiums from their current level of 8.33 basis points to 12 basis points next year, and then 15 basis points the year after, is reasonable. We estimate going to 12 basis points will increase premiums about $700 million, and that 15 basis point will bring in almost $600 million more. The increase in premium expenses translates to about 2.1 percent and 3.8 percent of pre-tax earnings at 12 and 15 basis points, respectively. To some extent, this increase probably could be offset by repricing of services, but the ability to do this is constrained by today's competitive market place. Assuming that all the increase resulted in earnings reductions, we estimate that fewer than 100 institutions out of over 13,000 that are now profitable would be made unprofitable. The majority of the banks that would suffer the most significant decline in profitability from higher assessments are located in the Southwest and Midwest regions, the two regions that have experienced the greatest difficulties during this decade. Given recent FDIC loss experience, the increases are consistent with our study's conclusions and should not pose an unreasonable burden to the banking system. Importantly, the revenues generated from these premiums will go solely to build the new bank insurance fund. - 24 - Under the proposal, once the bank fund moves up from .8 to 1.25 percent of insured deposits, banks can expect premium rebates. Our preliminary estimate is that rebates could begin as early as the mid-1990s under the President's plan. We recently completed an evaluation of the rebates the FDIC paid from 1950 through the early eighties. We added all rebates from that period back into our fund and applied the yield we would have earned on those funds. We discovered that, if no rebates had been paid during that time, the FDIC today would have another $26 billion in its insurance fund. This indicates that the current rate of eight basis points was more than sufficient to meet costs if no rebates had been paid. Thus, a return to lower premiums may be indicated at some future date. As to the increase in premiums on S&Ls, in and of itself, it will not unduly damage the industry. As previously stated, flexibility should be provided the insurer so that it can act if industry viability is threatened. INTERAGENCY OVERSIGHT EFFORT I would now like to turn to the interagency oversight effort underway to deal with the currently RAP insolvent S&Ls. As part of the Bush Reform Plan announced February 6th, the President requested that the FDIC lead a joint effort to evaluate and oversee most of the RAP insolvent thrifts. In addition to the FDIC and the FSLIC, the Federal - 25 - Home Loan Bank Board, the Federal Reserve, and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency are participating in this interagency initiative. The purpose of this interagency effort is to limit the growth of problems in our nation’s insolvent thrifts until a comprehensive reform of the deposit insurance system and the necessary funding are authorized by the Congress. Insured deposits will remain fully protected throughout this process. Since the program was announced by the President, a joint task force of regulators, led by the FDIC, has taken control of 73 of the RAP insolvent thrifts and expect to assume oversight of the rest of the over 200 RAP insolvent thrifts in the next four-to-six weeks. The FSLIC has contracted with the FDIC to take control of these institutions that are being placed in conservatorship or receivership. That means the FDIC, with the help of other regulators, will oversee operations of the insolvent thrifts. Managements of the various institutions are subject to the regulators' authority. From the customer's perspective, however, the only visible difference will be a few more people in each institution. Day-to-day operations will continue to preserve basic services to deposit and loan customers. One of the first priorities of these oversight efforts will be to evaluate the losses at each S&L. Such on-site examinations are necessary to produce accurate estimates of the cost of the thrift problem. Once our estimates are completed and GAO has issued its report on the cost of FSLIC's 1988 deals, the total cost of this problem can be determined. - 26 - Another top priority is to identify and stop any abuse, waste, or fraud that may be present. A further priority will be to prepare a business plan for the institution and seek cost reduction through consolidations and more efficient operations. While in control of these institutions, we and the other regulators will seek to stop any unsafe or unsound practices. We will limit their growth, and downsize them through asset liquidations where possible. However, we will avoid firesales of assets and emphasize the need to sell at values that reflect current appraised values. Finally, we will develop longer-term solutions to these problems. Our staff will recommend different approaches — from liquidating the institutions to selling them to qualified purchasers. But our current job is a holding action only. We will not issue notes or enter into income maintenance agreements. The FDIC has established four task groups to address these responsibilities. These task groups are designed to ensure stable operations in the insolvent thrifts and to evaluate options for permanently resolving their insolvency once funding is approved by Congress. One of our most important task groups is our new Fraud Squad. As President Bush has said, "unconscionable risk-taking, fraud and outright criminality have also been factors [in the thrift problem]." this Fraud Squad will constitute a mobile unit. Investigators assigned to Whenever our on-site teams discover evidence that fraud or insider abuse may have occurred, the Squad - 27 - will be sent to conduct a full-scale investigation. This includes looking for ways to get back misappropriated assets when possible, and helping send some to jail when appropriate. Our three other task groups have separate but complementary assignments. Our Oversight and Evaluation task group will take control of these institutions, assess their condition and take steps to reduce operating costs where possible. Our Planning and Restructuring task group will recommend steps to restructure and consolidate institutions where appropriate. And our Transaction and Acouisition task group will begin the process of seeking out buyers for institutions, real estate and other assets. He will seek to reach agreements with purchasers subject to resources being made available to provide assistance. The FDIC and the FHLBB have agreed that, until the agencies review the status of the insolvent thrift institutions placed under joint regulatory oversight, only cash assistance transactions will be undertaken by the FSLIC. We also must note that these additional responsibilities in addressing the S&L situation will place some strain on FDIC resources. We believe that this will not substantially interfere with our responsibilities as a bank regulator. are dedicated to this new task and will strive for success, but we do expect to experience growing pains and recognize our need to climb a learning curve in the process. We - 28 EPIC SUPERVISORY CAPABILITIES In view of your recent formation of the Examinations, Audit and Review (EAR) Task Force, Mr. Chairman, we would like to provide information on the FDIC's deployment of bank supervisory/examination personnel under the current insolvent thrift interagency oversight effort and what we anticipate under the President's Proposal. The FDIC has or will have two principal roles under the Bush Reform Plan. The first role involves the FDIC's additional responsibilities just discussed as conservator/"management agent" of thrifts that are now RAP insolvent and those to become insolvent before the Bush Reform Plan is enacted. Hhile there is no doubt that this new responsibility will have an impact on FDIC resources, we anticipate that the large call on FDIC personnel will be for a relatively short period of time, perhaps two-to-three months. During the peak-time period we anticipate the need for approximately 1,200 to 2,000 interagency personnel. Considering that we are receiving substantial assistance from the other federal regulatory agencies and state supervisory agencies, we anticipate that we will have to detail approximately 1,000 FDIC employees to this task during that peak period. Of these, approximately half, or 500 employees, will be from our examiner force — Bank Supervision ("DBS"). Liquidation ("DOL"). namely, the Division of The other half will be from the Division of After that peak period, when agency personnel in each institution will be cut back to a minimum, we anticipate that the number of FDIC employees being used will level off at around 400 to 500. Since half of - 29 - those will be from DOL, we expect about 200 to 250 of our examiners — about ten percent of our supervisory workforce — or only will continue to be detailed to this effort. During the two-to-three month peak period we have set priorities for our bank examiners to assure that all banks will continue to receive adequate supervision. We believe the FDIC can handle this additional burden for a time, in part because the number of problem banks is decreasing (currently under 1,400 — down from a peak of 1,624 in 1987), the number of examiners continues to increase (our goal is 2,200 examiners by year-end 1989), and our examination efficiency is improving. In fact, we have been increasing our examiner force as rapidly as it is practical to assimilate them — from a low of 1,389 in 1984 to 2,029 at the present time. While no one should underestimate the enormity of the responsibility facing the FDIC, we believe we are up to the task. The sooner the Congress acts to restructure the system and provide the necessary funds to resolve these insolvent thrifts, the sooner the resource strain can be alleviated. In the meantime, we assure you that we will not let our major bank supervision responsibilities slip. The second major supervisory role envisioned for the FDIC under the President's Proposal is essentially to back-up the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (to be renamed the "Federal Home Loan Bank System") in its role as supervisor of S&Ls, both state and federally chartered. While insolvent thrifts will become the responsibility of the Resolution Trust Corporation, the FHLB System will continue as the primary supervisor of solvent thrifts and its cadre of approximately 1,800 examiners will continue to function in their current responsibilities. The extent to which we will increase our workforce depends in large part on the ability of the FHLB System examination staff to effectively carry out its responsibilities as primary supervisor for the healthy segment of the thrift industry. We are in the process of developing projections of the number of examiners needed for this back-up role under various scenarios based on the magnitude of the responsibility. CONCLUSION With the exceptions noted, we believe the President's Proposal is sound, constructive and farsighted, and we hope Congress acts on it promptly. The FDIC stands ready to assist the Subcommittee and the EAR Task Force in any way during the upcoming debate on the restructuring and financing of the deposit insurance system. I would be pleased, at this time, to answer any questions the Subcommittee may have. Suggested Amendments Term of Chairman Section 203(2) of FIRREA, amending Section 2 of the FDI Act, should read: (2) by deleting the second sentence thereof and inserting the following: One of the appointive members shall be designated by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to serve as Chairman of the Board for a term of four years, and one shall be designated by the President, by and with the consent of the Senate, to serve as Vice Chairman of the Board for a term of four years. Not more than two of the appointive members shall be members of the same political party. Debt Limitation Section 216(2) of FIRREA, amending Section 15 of the FDI Act, should read: (2) by adding a new subparagraph (b) to read as follows: (b) (1) The Corporation shall estimate the cost of all notes or similar obligations issued by it, and all guarantees or similar obligations incurred by it, prior to the creation thereof, and shall reflect such cost in its financial statements, and make such adjustments as are appropriate thereto no less frequently than quarterly. ( 2) The Corporation shall not issue any note or similar obligation, and shall not incur any liability under a guarantee or similar obligation, with respect to either the Bank Insurance Fund or the Savings Association Insurance Fund if the estimated cost thereof would reduce the net worth of the respective Insurance Fund to less than zero. (3) With the prior approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, the Corporation may issue or incur up to $5 billion in the aggregate of additional liabilities in excess of the limitations of (2) above; Provided, that, any such additional liabilities shall reduce, on a dollar for dollar basis, the amount which the Corporation may borrow from the Treasury under Section 14 of this Act. (4) For the purposes of this subsection (b), the net worth of an Insurance Fund shall be calculated based upon the most recent audit of such Fund by the General Accounting Office, as reduced by the adjustments required in paragraph (1). Reporting Section 217(2) of FIRREA, amending Section 17 of the FDI Act, should read: (2) By redesignating subsections (b), (c) and (d) as (c), (d) and (e), respectively, and by adding a new subsection (b) to read as follows: Prior to the beginning of each fiscal quarter, the Corporation shall provide to the Secretary of the Treasury copies of the Corporation's financial operating plans and forecasts, and as soon as practicable following the close of each fiscal quarter, the Corporation shall provide to the Secretary of the Treasury copies of the report of the Corporation's financial condition and results of operations for such quarter. The plans, forecasts and reports shall reflect the liabilities and obligations as provided in Section 15(b)(1) of this Act. The requirement to provide the plans, forecasts and reports shall not imply any obligation on the part of the Corporation to obtain the consent or approval of the Secretary of the Treasury with respect thereto. NO. Lo Ia I Assets Iotil LU5* Annual Income t&Lx cosuri Cost SfcL Group To Assets tiix Cq s L J Z To Assets Handled by FSLIC in 1988 208 $103.2 $120.1 $-10.2 $38.9 .38 $42.9 .42 RAP - Insolvent A Unprofitable 217 $56.9 $65.6 $-5.3 $22.8 .40 $25.0 .44 RAP - Insolvent A Profitable 5 $2.5 $2x5 $0x0 $0x4 xl6 0x5 x24 430 $162.6 $188.2 $-15.5 $62.1 .38 $67.9 .42 RAP Solvent but GAAP - insolvent A unprofitable 72 $24.2 $23.7 $-0.3 $3.6 .15 $4.8 .20 RAP - Solvent but GAAP - insolvent A profitable 45 $12.1 $11.7 $0x2 $Lx6 xI3 $2x2 xlfl 547 $198.9 $223.6 $-15.5 $67.3 .34 $74.9 .38 RAP A GAAP - solvent but tangible insolvent and unprofitable 69 $55.1 $53.2 $-0.5 $8.3 .15 $10.9 .20 RAP A GAAP solvent but tangible - insolvent and profitable 52 $55x4 $52x5 $0x2 $5x0 xJO $10x0 xJL6 668 $320.4$ $340.3 $-15.8 $82.4 .26 $96.7 .30 154 $101.1 97.6 $-0.7 $9.6 .09 $14.9 .15 882 $421.5 $437.9 $-16.5 $92.00 .22 $111.6 .26 Other: SUBTOTAL SUBTOTAL SUBTOTAL Marginally solvent but unprofitable TOTAL 1 2 with zero Toss assigned to residential mortgages and passEstimated Cost #1 :Failed-•bank cost formula 1 through securities. Estimated Cost 02 :Fa i1ed -bank cost formula with 10% loss assigned to residential mortgages and mortgage pass-through securities. CHART A 3rd QUARTER SUHHARY SHEET DATA ON FINANCIAL TROUBLED SALs ($BILLIONS) CHART B stratiok ’s A Fir;A!;c::;G proposal * (in billions cf dollars; Tine to Maturity 10 years yi 0 * C 20 years 30 years 1 0 0 - 1 2 5 1 1 5 - 1 * 0 1 2 5 - 1 5 0 ■ 1 1 5 - 1 * 0 1 3 5 - 1 6 5 1 6 0 - 2 0 " 1 2 5 - 1 6 0 1 6 0 - 2 0 0 2 0 0 - 2 5 0 I t 0 - 1 7 0 1 9 0 - 2 3 C 2 5 Q - 3 Q Q 1 5 0 - 1 8 0 2 1 5 - 0 6 5 1 % 00 a t 0 I— 1 •C a s h c o s t flo w s o f i n t e r e s t r e p r e s e n t $ 9 0 -1 1 0 a c t u a l b i l l i o n r a t e s show n d o l l a r s is fin a n c e d in c h a r t . I 3 0 0 - 3 5 0 s p e n t o v e r i f n e t d i f f e r e n t p r e s e n t t i n e v a lu period in »D 6 ADMINISTRATION’S FINANCING PROPOSAL SOURCES OF FUNDS USES OF FUNDS SOURCES OF FUNDS