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MONITORING SELF-INTEREST:
A CHALLENGE TO BANK
SUPERVISION ,

L. William Seidman, Chairman
FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION
WASHINGTON, D.C.

Before)
The Southwestern Graduate
School of Banking
Southern Methodist University^

Dallas, Texas»
(?) May 27, 1986

I.

Introduction

Good afternoon. The Southwestern Graduate School of Banking has
rendered major assistance to both state and federal banking supervisors
by educating scores of supervisory officials, and I am honored to address
you.
In carrying out your educational mission, you have benefitted from
the leadership of one of the outstanding bankers in America, C.C. Hope.
Now, as an FDIC Director, C.C. has decided to help straighten things
out in Washington. Ogden Nash once said that "bankers are just like
anybody else, except richer." I don't know about other bankers, but
C.C. certainly is rich — rich in knowledge, rich in integrity, rich
in wisdom, and rich in practical insights. Through his able counsel,
C.C. is bestowing those riches upon the FDIC.Today I'd like to explore the FDIC's role in monitoring actions
that are motivated by self-interest. In his treatise on Sentences
and Moral Maxims, the 17th century French philosopher Rochefoucauld
wrote that:
"Self-interest speaks all sorts of tongues,
and plays all sorts of roles,
even that of disinterestedness."
Those words ring as true today as they did over three hundred years
ago. They are at the heart of our free capitalistic economic system
and apply especially well to banking. In the financial services industry,
self-interested behavior comes in many guises. It may involve fraudulent
conduct that is hidden away from public view. It may involve aggressive,
profit-seeking actions that are clearly legal — or transactions that
fall in the gray area between legality and illegality. It may even
wear the mantle of "disinterested," "public-spirited" pronouncements.
The FDIC and other banking supervisors recognize that self-interest
is neither "good" nor "bad" -- it is merely a force to be reckoned
with.
I believe three distinct approaches should be employed by banking
supervisors in dealing with self-interested actions. First, fraudulent
behavior should be ferreted out and punished. Second, parties that
engage in aggressive, risky, but legal behavior should be made to bear
the costs such risks impose. Third, banks that seek out sound and
appropriate profitable opportunities should be interfered with as little
as possible.
II.

Criminal Behavior

Crooked bankers have been around ever since there have been banks.
A few individuals, motivated by the basest form of self-interest,




have always sought to defraud their customers and investors. In modern
times, the FDIC too often has borne the costs of fraudulent schemes.
Back in 1935, for example, the FDIC had to disburse four million dollars
to insured depositors of the Commercial National Bank of Bradford,
Pennsylvania. That bank collapsed because of fraud on the part of
an assistant cashier. Four million dollars was big money in 1935.
It represented a bigger outlay of FDIC funds than in all twenty previous
payoffs of insured banks.
Times have changed. Four million dollars pales in comparison to
the hundreds of millions of dollars in costs the FDIC has incurred
thus far due to the recent collapse of the Butcher banks in Tennessee.
Those costs were absorbed as a result of conduct that earned Jake Butcher
and several of his associates federal criminal convictions. Even more
sobering than individual loss numbers is information suggesting that
fraud continues as a significant cause of bank failures in the 1980's.
An FDIC survey of 75 insured banks that failed from the beginning of
1980 to mid-1983 found that criminal misconduct by insiders was a major
contributing factor in 45 percent of the failures.
In today's world, with two trill ion dollars in deposits to worry
about, the FDIC simply cannot afford to take a casual attitude toward
fraud. Rather than deal with the consequences of fraud when they appear,
we must aggressively seek out those bankers who would abuse the public's
trust by engaging in illegal transactions. We must take the view that
finding fraud is a primary objective of bank examinations §- not an
incidental activity. We are preparing a list of "red flags" which
auditors will use in looking for evidence of misbehavior and we are
cooperating with the AICPA committee dealing with fraud detection responsibilities
of the independent CPA.
In December 1984, the FDIC, the Federal Reserve Board, the Comptroller
of the Currency, the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, and the Justice
Department formed a Bank Fraud Working Group. In April 1985, the Group
member agencies jointly signed a cooperative agreement aimed at improving
the detection, investigation, and prosecution of bank fraud cases.
A key feature of the agreement was the preparation of a standard criminal
referral form, to be used by all four banking agencies to transmit
information to Justice Department prosecutors and the FBI. The agreement
also established new mechanisms for interagency liaison and called
for legislation to eliminate legal restrictions on the sharing of records.
The FDIC has developed a computer system to track criminal referrals
and to provide status reports to initiating regional and field offices.
Our regulation requiring banks to report suspected crimes becomes effective
this month. Most banks are already reporting on the new referral form
we provided them. The FDIC is also helping to establish a Federal
Financial Institutions Examination Council school on white collar crime




that will become a permanent source of training for bank examiners.
We are committed to providing prosecutors with the technical assistance
necessary to ensure successful bank fraud prosecutions.
Success in the war against fraudulent banking practices involves
more than new initiatives by bank supervisors. It also requires that
we strengthen the criminal laws and remove existing statutory impediments
to effective law enforcement. In April 1986, the FDIC testified in
favor of making money laundering a federal crime. This would permit
prosecutors to attack this practice directly -- rather than having
to build their cases on banks' failures to file currency reports, as
currently required. We called for higher penalties and stiffer sentences
for money laundering.
We also advocated clarifying amendments to
Privacy Act, specifying that the Act does not
protection to bank insiders who are also bank
the Congress to exempt financial institutions
on the use of lie detectors to find fraud.

the Right to Financial
extend customer-privacy
customers. We have asked
from any prohibitions

We are far from winning the war against those who engage in fraudulent
transactions. With almost 15,000 insured commercial banks to monitor,
ours is a difficult fight. While we will never wipe out criminal conduct
entirely, we can lower the frequency and harm associated with abusive
behavior. What we need is the right attitude. While I am at the FDIC,
the anti-fraud campaign will forge ahead full steam.
III.

Risky Behavior

Bank supervisors must also keep a watchful eye out for legal self-interested
actions that involve excessive risks. Many bankers who would not dream
of committing fraud may nevertheless engage in highly risky practices
that undermine bank stability.
Increased risk-taking is becoming an increasingly prominent feature
of some banks activities. As regulatory barriers fall and competition
sharpens, these banks will take larger risks — and some of those institutions
are bound to incur losses.
Deposit insurance increases the possibility of taking excessive
risks in a deregulated environment. It reduces the insured depositors'
interest in monitoring the condition of the banks in which they place
their funds. Bankers are not made fully accountable for the degree
of risk they run. Thus some risk-seeking bankers take big risks.
To make matters more dificult, at least in large banks the FDIC has
protected all depositors, not just those insured to $100,000. As long
as we continue this practice we should treat smaller banks in the same
way if we can.




I'm for deregulation. It has benefitted the public by enhancing
the offerings in the financial services marketplace and the competition
has strengthened banks' management ability. I do not believe that
federal supervisors should look over bankers' shoulders and tell them
that particular transactions are "too risky" to undertake. This would
involve unacceptable — and unworkable — government intrusion into
private sector decisionmaking. What I am suggesting, though, is that
bank supervisors should do what they can to make bankers bear the costs
of the risks they impose on their institutions — and on the banking
system.
Adoption of a risk-related capital policy is one way of focusing
the minds of risk-taking bankers on the costs of their policies. The
FDIC, the Comptroller, and the Federal Reserve Board recently issued
for public comment proposals to explicitly take a bank's risk profile
into consideration when evaluating capital adequacy. The greater the
risks an institution faced, the higher would be the level of capital
it would have to maintain. Bankers who took excessive risks without
a commensurate increase in their capital would quickly receive the
attention of banking regulators. Marketplace discipline would also
be brought to bear, once shareholders and prospective creditors noted
the extent to which a bank's capital ratio did not match its risk-related
profile.
Risk-related deposit insurance premiums would also make bankers
pay directly for their risky ways. The FDIC is seeking congressional
authorization to institute a risk-based deposit insurance program.
Under the program, banks posing higher than normal risks would pay
higher premiums. Higher premiums would serve to restrain risk-taking,
and we believe would have an impact on management's choice of the appropriate
level of risk. This approach would be more equitable and consistent
with the private sector's concept of insurance.
Public disclosure is another method for harnessing market forces
to discipline excessive risk-taking. The FDIC encourages banks to
disclose fully all relevant information regarding their financial condition,
and their future prospects. We have publicly urged the investment
community and large depositors to obtain and analyze quarterly statements
of condition and income as well as Uniform Bank Performance Reports
— Reports that summarize a bank's performance relative to comparable
banks. We hope to develop with other regulators uniform consistent
disclosure policies for all banks.
Supervisory vigilance is also needed to control risks. In an environment
where so much funding is short term, massive destabilizing fund movements
may occur literally overnight. That means supervisors require the earliest
possible notice about risky activity that may undermine a bank's safety
and soundness, so that they can take appropriate actions. At the FDIC,
that means a move away from static, point-in-time bank reviews to more




dynamic, continuous supervision. It means an increased emphasis on
troubled bank exams and an upgrading of our CAEL offsite computer monitoring
capabilities.
No single initiative will do the trick. But I believe that a coordinated
approach will bring excessive risk-taking by bankers under reasonable
control.
IV.

Appropriate Self-Interested Activities

Finally, I would like to comment briefly on self-interested activities
that are appropriate in nature. I refer to banks' efforts to seek
out profitable opportunities that do not involve unwarranted risks.
A bank may use loan production offices around the country to diversify
geographically its loan risks. It may attempt to serve its business
customers' needs by distributing their commercial paper. A healthy
bank holding company may try to extend its areas of expertise by acquiring
a failing bank with specialized experience in a new field, such as
energy lending. Innovation in services rendered is the name of the
game in banking. Bank supervisors should interfere as little as possible
with such self-interested endeavors. Government officials are not
likely to be better than banks' managements in shaping the direction
taken by the banking industry.
Notice that I said bank supervisors should interfere as little
as possible with appropriate banking transactions. But what about
the profitable distribution of commercial paper, which one federal
court has deemed violative of the Glass-Steagall Act's underwriting
prohititions? And what about a bank holding company's well-reasoned
interest in purchasing a failing energy bank? Its efforts may be thwarted
by the Douglas Amendment, if the failing bank has under $500 million
in assets and is located across state lines in a jurisdiction that
prohibits interstate holding company acquisitions.
Do these restrictions on activities appear appropriate? I submit
the answer is no. The risks associated with underwriting commercial
paper are smaller and more limited in scope than the risks banks absorb
every day in making new loans. The integrity of the dual banking system
is not undermined by allowing the interstate acquisition of failing
banks on a very limited scale. Yet these appropriate activities are
restricted and "public interest" arguments are made on their behalf.
That brings me to my last point about self-interest -- it usually
wears the mask of public interest when it pleads its case before Congress
and the courts. It is not surprising that the securities industry
has made the most vociferous "public interest" arguments about the
"danger" to bank safety should Glass-Steagall prohibitions be relaxed.




Firms have every incentive
After all, they are merely
"public interest" argument
should be closely examined
V.

to keep bankers from poaching on their terrain,
acting in their own self-interest. Each
in favor of restricting bank activities
to see if it really makes any sense.

Conclusion

Well as Charles Lindbergh said as he approached Pari s on his hi storie
flight, "I've got some gas left, but I might as well stop here."