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An address by

L. William Seidman, Chairman
Federai Deposit Insurance Corporati
Washington, D.C.

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Before the

NATIONAL COUNCIL
MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE

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New York, New York,
y ) December IO, 1985 ^

Current Issues

I am pleased and honored*to address the National Council Management Conference.

Our meeting today is fortunate 'for me.
my way through the wide range of
industry.

As a new kid on the block, I am working

issues confronting the financial

Regardless of the type of charter your

institution may hold, or

whether we are regulators or regúlateos, we share a common goal:
sound and prosperous financial system.

services

a stable,

Being here gives me an early opportuni­

ty to hear some of your views about how that goal can be achieved.

I would like to take a random walk through some current issues in the thrift
industry.

Items

include:

(2) Massachusetts

(I)

the

certificate

Insurance conversion;

program

(3) Funds'

mergers

past

and

future;

(4) risk-related

premiums and capital; and (3) business plans and FDIC.

I. The Certificate Program.
This

audience

scarcely needs to be reminded that thrift

had too many tough years.

institutions

Ironically, many of the industry's problems devel­

oped as a result of our Nation's long-standing commitment to housing.
this commitment was

and

sions for the thrift
supply

of

mortgage

is

funds,

interest rates,




laudable,

industry.

lend long and borrow short.
deposit

have

the

it had adverse repercus­

To ensure that there would be an adequate

public
As

in practice

While

policy

consciously encouraged thrifts to

long as there was only minimal pressure on

industry's underlying maturity mismatch problem

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could be

Ignored.

However,

2*

during the

late

1970s, the results of a poorly

managed economy were manifested in a high inflation rate and rising interest
rate levels.

When these pressures resulted in rising deposit interest rates,

the magnitude of the industry's problems became a painful reality.

The trauma faced by the thrift industry beginning in the late 1970s was respon­
sible to a great extent for a significant number of legislative initiatives,
including deposit

interest rate

deregulation,

a wider array of permissible

investments available to many thrift institutions and the net worth certificate
program mandated in the Garn-St Germain Act of 1982.

Initially, the FDIC opposed the net worth certificate provisions of Garn-St
Germain on the grounds that the program would provide no "real" capital to
troubled thrifts,
institutions.

and would

Because

of

limit
these

its flexibility
reservations,

in dealing with

savings

banks

failing

participating

in the program were required to enter into an agreement with the FDIC regarding
periodic preparation and submission of meaningful business plans,
on growth

and a commitment to actively seek

sources.

To

Voluntary

Assisted

willingness

provide

to

an

incentive to recapitalize,

Merger

consider

recapitalization

Program

("VAMP"),

whereby

the FDIC
the

FDIC

providing substantive assistance to

limitations

from outside,
instituted

a

expressed

a

facilitate the

merger or acquisition of a participating savings bank.

Under the theory that things always continue in the same direction, the FDIC's
initial fears may have proved to be well founded.




However, as usual, events

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were to the contrary.

Since Garn-St Germain, the interest rate climate gener­

ally has been favorable, with the most recent rate decreases bringing virtually
all

FDIC-insured

significance

thrifts

is the

have not observed

above

the

responsibility

savings

banks

break-even
exhibited

level.

Of

by management;

attempting to recoup past

perhaps

greater

generally,

we

losses by means

of excessive growth or by upgrading asset returns by getting into high-risk
ventures.

And, at the risk of praising my predecessor, the FDIC's policies

in the areas of capital adequacy and asset quality may have played some role.

In today's Interest rate environment, thrift institutions have become a more
attractive investment.

Over the past few

thrifts have been acquired,
ass isted basis.

months, some of our most troubled

some with FDIC assistance and others on a non­

We currently are evaluating a number of other

proposals.

A common thread that runs through both the completed transactions and the
current proposals
normal

capital

is some degree of forbearance with respect to the FDIC's

requirements.

While we recognize that

It Is unrealistic to

require meeting these requirements immediately, we are uneasy about allowing
an institution to further
returns

to the

investors.

leverage an already thin capital base to increase
We believe that

future asset growth

should be

adequately capitalized.

In past transactions, capital levels and phase-in periods have been negotiated
on an

individual

be handled.
consistency




basis.

However,
is the

This may always be the way matters will

this has

hobgoblin of

led to some degree of
small

minds,

we would

inconsistency.

have to
While

like to develop an

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appropriate policy to deal with these

issues in a consistent manner.

we hope to have a policy in place to guide potential
for

future

savings

bank

acquisitions,

we will

While

investors and ourselves

continue

in the

interim to

deal with sales and mergers on a case-by-case basis.

2.

Massachusetts Conversion.

Another
in

development concerns the

Massachusetts.

Until

deposit

recently,

insurance status of savings banks

deposits

in

many

Massachusetts

mutual

savings banks had been fully insured by the Mutual Savings Central Fund (MSCF),
an independent agency created by the State.
record

during

its more than 50 years

in private and state deposit

MSCF had compiled a distinguished

in operation.

Insurors nearly has been destroyed by problems

of State funds in Nebraska, Ohio and Maryland.
Massachusetts

earlier

this

to apply

federal

deposit

for

But public confidence

year

took the

step

Responding to this situation,
of

requiring

savings

banks

insurance through the FDIC and F S U C .

MSCF

would continue to insure deposits over $100,000.

To facilitate the new
liquidating.

insurance plan,

MSCF

is

in the process of partially

It has committed to provide necessary

funds to* enable those

banks applying to the FDIC to meet FDIC capital standards.

Because Massachu­

setts law essentially prohibits MSCF from donating funds to any of the banks,
it was necesssary to develop a capital

assistance plan to get around that

roadblock.

Under the plan that was worked out between MSCF and the FDIC, MSCF will provide




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capltal
meet

assistance to MSCF member

FDIC

capital

issue Mutual
to MSCF.

standards.

Capital

banks

In return

Certificates

(MCCs)

applying to the FDIC that do not
for

this

and/or

assistance,

banks

Subordinated Notes

would
("SNs")

For its part, the FDIC has agreed to count funds obtained through

MCCs as primary capital and funds obtained through SNs as secondary capital.

The proposed MCCs are patterned after the instrument authorized by the Monetary
Control
Bank

Act of

Board.

1980

Terms

for

of

institutions

SNs were

supervised

by the Federal

designed to meet the

Home Loan

definition contained

in FDIC regulations.

Applications for FDIC insurance have been approved for 81 Massachusetts savings
banks.

To

date,

about

13 capital

assistance agreements have been entered

into and capital conditions have been satisfied.

In the time remaining, I would like to touch on two issues that are of interest
to all financial

institutions, regardless of the type of charter they holds

the first relates to the merger of the deposit insurance funds; the second
relates to risk-related premiums.

3.

The Insurance Funds* Merger,

Faced

with

a seemingly

ability to survive.

impossible task,

the

FSLIC has shown

It has had to support a massive industry restructuring.

In dealing with the problems caused by credit risk,
some

irresponsible managements,




a remarkable

the FSLIC has

interest rate risk, and

at times

shown boldness

and

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imaglnation despite

Its

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limited personnel

than one occasion the FDIC has borrowed

and financial resources.

On more

ideas from some of the solutions

forged by FSLIC to treat ailing thrifts.

According to retiring head of the Fund Peter Stearns, the S&L Fund has serious
financial

troubles.

FSLIC will
addressed

He says that it is inescapable that at some point the

require assistance.
is

The

fundamental

question that needs to be

from what source the necessary fundswill be supplied.

There

are three alternatives, none of which represents an easy choice.

One alternative is to raise the funds from the S&L industry itself, in which
case the

principal

with this rather

burden would

painful

fall

alternative,

on the
at

stronger

institutions.

least some of those

Faced

Institutions

might elect to shift charters to avoid a special assessment.

A second

alternative

Is to recapitalize the FSLIC Fund through federal tax

dollars.

As an

It would

be like to * operate

Independent

certainly would be a step

Insurer,
with

I don't want to speculate about

congressionally

appropriated funds.

in the wrong direction in my opinion —

give the government rights which

I would hope could be

what
It

it would

left to the private

sector.

A third alternative —
months —

one which has received considerable press

Is to merge the two deposit insurance funds.

in recent

Frankly, we already

have plenty to do at the FDIC, but we certainly want to do what we can to




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be helpful.

I am sure a merger

is the wrong approach for

insuring finan­

cial institutions that undertake minimal commercial loan-making activities.

As far as the FDIC

is concerned,

we shall

we can be under the circumstances.

be ready to be of whatever aid

If Congress decides we should take addi­

tional actions to be of assistance, we will be prepared to do so.

4.

Risk-Related Premiums and Capital.

The aversion of policy makers to come to grips with difficult choices extends
beyond the problems confronting the FSLIC.
hensive reform

To date, the enactment of compre­

legislation has proved to be an elusive goal.

is any guide, we may have to settle for a piecemeal
eventuality,

enactment of

legislation

authorizing

the

If the past

approach.

In such an

FDIC to

implement a

risk-related premium system would rank high on our "wish list."

For some time, the FDIC has felt that the present flat-rate deposit insurance
premium system has unfairly subsidized riskier banks at the expense of the
better managed
a proposed

institutions.

To this end, we recently sent out for comment

risk-related premium system applicable to commercial

banks.

We

think that what the FDIC is proposing represents a workable system that can
be improved as we all gain further experience in this area.

The FDIC has not made any proposal relating to a risk-related premium structure
for FDIC-insured thrift
a proposal,




institutions.

Before we are able to formulate such

we must come to grips with the realities of the situation —

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the

problems

facing

many

thrifts

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(low

capital

levels,

excessive

interest

rate risk and earnings insufficient to recapitalize within a reasonable time
frame) exist and cannot easily be resolved in a short period of time.

While

we have not resolved many of the relevant issues, the FDIC in the near future
likely will propose a risk-related premium system for thrifts not dissimilar
to the commercial

bank proposal.

However,

implementation may be phased

in

over time, in much the same manner as the FDIC has applied capital regulations
to the thrift industry.

At this

point,

it may be

relating to commercial
objective statistical

informative to briefly

banks.
model,

review the FDIC proposal

Under this proposal, the FDIC would use an

based solely on Call

Report data, to classify

banks as having either normal- or above-normal risk.

In terms of determining

which of the above-normal risk group does or does not get a full assessment
credit, we will distinguish between those banks having composite CAMEL ratings
of

I or 2 and those which are rated 3, 4 or 5.

The latter group —

those

banks rated as above-normal risk and rated 3, 4 or 5 —— will receive no assess­
ment credit.

While banks having a composite CAMEL rating of I or 2 and which

are rated as above-normal risk by the statistical test will receive the rebate,
they

will

be

immediately

subject to

analysts are satisfied that the bank
stop there.
it will
will

additional

financial

is indeed a

If our

I or 2, the process will

If the analyst finds significant areas of weakness In the bank,

be promptly scheduled for an FDIC examination.

be available




review.

before the

next risk-related

These exam results

assessment cycle begins

so

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that these banks will

lose their rebate In that next cycle in the event their

CAMEL rating is lowered below a I or 2 and they fail the statistical test.

As

I indicated

earlier,

the

risk-related

premium

likely will parallel this general framework.

system

for

thrifts

most

In fact, we could include savings

banks in our statistical model and apply a uniform system to all FDIC-insured
institutions.

However,

the risks presently

Inherent in the thrift industry

are somewhat different than in commercial banks.

Specifically, the commercial

bank system does not Include a measure of interest rate risk which, we believe,
should be part of a system applied to thrift
to

collect

Information

with the Call

to

measure

savings

Report for year-end

1985.

institutions.

banks'

risk

begin

exposure

beginning

Unlike some proponents,

the FDIC

does not view a risk-based premium system to be a panacea —
improvement over the status quo.

We will

just a substantial

It would be less arbitrary and considerably

more fair than the current system.

It would provide a significant, though

not overwhelming, financial Incentive for banks to avoid excessive risk-taking
and to correct their problems promptly.

Perhaps as important. It would send

a strong signal to a problem bank's management and board of directors.

Another suggestion for regulatory change
requirements.
premiums.
are

not

other

Some

have

posed

this

It seems to me there
mutually

deals

risk-based




with

capital

exclusive.
capital

One

idea

as

a

substitute

for

risk-based

is no reason to take this position;
deals

requirements

requirements

Is a system of risk-based capital

plan

with
of

bases

insurance
depository
an

premiums

while

institutions.

individual

bank's

they
the
The

capital

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standard

on

the type of

deemed to entail

greater

activities

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that

the

risk would require

bank

undertakes.

larger capital

Activities

reserves while

investment in low risk, highly liquid assets would need little or no capital.

It should be recognized that the agencies already employ risk-based capital
standards.

The federal

banking agencies have for the first time in history

adopted a uniform minimum capital standard for banks of all sizes.
standard Is applicable only to well-run banks.
problems,

weak earnings,

a high growth

rate or

poor management,

The minimum

Banks with above-normal

excessive

loan

interest rate exposure,

sizeable off-balance-sheet exposure are required to

meet a higher capital standard on a case-by-case basis.

Proponents of risk-based capital requirements note that It has special merit
in that
manner

It weighs ex ante riskiness

in a bank's operation.

in which risk-based capital requirements would operate are not clear

at this point.

It seems to me its usefulness will depend on how and what

kind of assets are classified for risk.
of the

However, the

other

usefulness

regulators

is

the

on

ability

risk
of

We shall be studying the suggestions

capital
the

very

regulators

carefully.
to

The key to

judge

risk

by

its

asset

classification.

5.

Savings Banks' Business Plans.

An issue
is the

in your
FOIC's

increase capital




industry which has recently been receiving some attention

request

for

business

plans

from

savings

over time to meet minimum standards.

banks
Many

designed

to

have objected

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to

the

FDIC

request

because

it,

in effect,

requires

an

institution

to

automatically admit to operating in an unsound manner if it does not achieve
the

capital

objection.

goals
Our

set

goal

forth

was

to

in

its

assure

plan.
that

This

is

institutions

progress in achieving their stated business objectives.

an

understandable

would

make

real

We have to work

with you to achieve this objective while avoiding requesting institutions
to make unwarranted admissions against their interests.

We will be working

with your counsel on new language which will be satisfactory to all parties.

This
to be

is

a good

example

of how important

flexible where possible,

by the regulated, while,
maintaining the safety,
promoted.

So,

I look

open and we will listen.




and

it is for a regulatory agency

to listen to the positions expressed

at the same time, assuring that the mission of
stability and economic

forward

success of the system is

to hearing your views.

Our door will be