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An Address by

L. WILLIAM SEIDMANA CHAIRMAN
FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION
WASHINGTON D.C.

Before The

U.S. LEAGUE OF SAVINGS INSTITUTIONS

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OUR COMMON INTERESTS ,

^*San Francisco, California.
November 11, 1986^
(Actual Speech)

Good morning! It was about one year ago that
opportunity to speak to your fine organization. Now
roy year as a bank regulator and show you what I have
we have a saying "old too soon and smart too late".
even though old, I can still learn.

I had the first
I have a chance to review
learned. In my home town
My job is to prove that

One thing I learned for sure, your industry -- the thrift industry
is financially viable, supported as necessary by consumers, and has fine
future propects. I believe I can also say that its prospects are brighter
when you work together with other depository institutions. Banks and thrifts
have more success working together on current problems than they do when they
work on each other. That leads me to take a look at a current development
which I believe needs to be of common concern.
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One of these is the growth of debt which during the past few years
exceeds that of any other period since World War II. All sectors of
our economy have participated in the increase. Total public and
private debt of the non-financial sector has doubled since 1980.
From about $3.6 trillion at the beginning of the 1980s, it has
increased to well over $7 trillion today.

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Increased debt, however, must be related to ability to pay.
Unfortunately, our national income has not risen proportionally.
During the period from the end of the Korean War to the early 80s,
the ratio of total debt to GNP fluctuated in a narrow band about 140
percent. Since then, this ratio has increased to about 173
percent. There is now about 34 cents more debt for every dollar of
income than there was just five years ago.

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At the corporate level, growth in debt has far outpaced growth in
net worth. At the end of 1985, the ratio of corporate debt to book
net worth was at a post-World War II high of 46.5 percent. The
ratio of household debt to net worth was also at a post-war high of
over 19 percent.

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Short and intermediate term consumer credit has grown from about 18
percent of after-tax disposable income in 1981 to 24 percent early
this year — a 25 percent increase to a postwar high.

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Total household debt has also outraced disposable income. Household
debt has increased from about 75 percent of disposable income five
years ago to 85 percent today -- also a postwar high.




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The real debt burden of the household sector -- the amount of bread
and wine that must be sacrificed to repay the debt — has increased
by about 23 percent since 1983.

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It is true that the growth of debt has been a constant trend during
the entire postwar period. But at no time since World War II has
the simultaneous growth in debt of both the household and business
sectors been so rapid.

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Government debt is now growing relative to GNP even more rapidly
than private debt. The $1.7 trillion in government debt held by the
public represents about 41 percent of GNP — up significantly from
28 percent in 1981. Prior to the late 1970s, this debt ratio had
steadily fallen from the high levels of World War II.

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The simultaneous rapid growth of public and private U.S. debt has
been made possible, in part, by importing foreign capital. We have
become the world's largest debtor nation. Our net investment
position -- the excess of U.S. gross claims abroad over foreign
claims on the U.S. — has deteriorated from a surplus of $141
billion in 1981 to a deficit of $107 billion at the end of 1985.

The growth rate of debt in this country is a trend that requires all
financial institutions to take notice. The key question, of course, is
whether all this debt is manageable in relation to income. There is no doubt
that some of the financial innovations of the past few years have reduced the
perception of risk, and perhaps increased the ability to manage debt. No one,
however, knows how much debt the financial system can handle without
endangering stability. We can all agree, though, that higher debt burdens
increase the vulnerability of borrowers to adverse financial events.
Our present high rate of bank failures in the Southwest stems from the
prolonged deflation in the agricultural and energy sectors of the economy.
These problems have been exacerbated by the unusually high levels of
indebtedness in these sectors.
How dangerous are the increased debt levels to the financial system and
the economy as a whole? No one knows for certain and reasonable people do
disagree on the answer. But most would agree that the current climb in debt
to GNP in this country cannot be extended for many more years without the
potential for unacceptably increasing risk. The rate of increase is just too
steep!
Change must be achieved both by increasing GNP growth rates and
decreasing debt levels.
In the process, we must proceed with care — the
flashing yellow caution light is operational!




-3Banks and thrifts as they compete in this new environment will need to
deal with difficult but similar problems. What will you need, what will we
need, to cope in this environment? Here are some suggestions.
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First, regulators of banks and thrifts must enhance safety
surveillance of the system. Aggressive case-by-case action is the
way to get at those that would endanger the system. This is not
blanket re-regulation of business decision-making for all
institutions. It is a program designed to find the few who would
act in a manner that endangers safety and soundness.
We need — and you need -- an effective program of safety
surveillance carried out by a well-trained and well-staffed
supervisory force. It is in all our interests that the regulatory
authorities be allowed the flexibility to build an examination force
capable of monitoring, and where appropriate, limiting risk-taking
by individual institutions. Chairman Gray has taken a true
leadership position in this effort in your industry.

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Second, banks and thrifts more than ever will need competent
management put in place by well-informed and effective boards of
directors. Many institutions are finding it increasingly difficult
to retain and recruit good outside directors. An important
underlying cause of this development has been the scarcity of
liability insurance for directors. This problem must be resolved.
You may be aware that the FDIC has been working with both the
banking and insurance industries to increase the availability of
such insurance. We think we've had some success in encouraging
reinsurers to reenter the market. But, more needs to be done.1
Perhaps actions like the one recently taken by the U.S. League to
establish a reinsurer will help achieve this goal.
We are working with other federal bank regulators to develop plain
english guidelines for directors. We would hope that this work
could be useful to your institutions. This guidance should not only
help directors do a better job, but could reduce their exposure to
liability claims as well. The industry must continue to explore new
approaches to ensure the availability of good leadership.

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Third, depository institutions need a level playing field upon which
to compete. I'm not just referring to competition between banks and
thrifts, but more importantly to the competition with other players
in the financial services industry. Banks and thrifts must work
together to press for the passage of new financial services
legislation to achieve this result.

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My final point, and perhaps most important point, is that we need a
clearer concept of where the financial institutions system of the
United States should be headed. We must address this fundamental
issue with the safety, soundness and competitiveness of the system
as primary goals.
It is too late to turn back the clock to a
simpler time. Even if we could, we need to look forward and not
fight futile battles to patch up outdated laws. We must ask what
kind of financial services structure makes the most sense for our
economy and, more importantly, our place in the world competitive
battle.
Together we need to focus on where we should be going —
get back where we were. And, we need to do it soon!

Thank you for your attention.




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