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THE GOVERNMENT:

DEBT MANAGEMENT AND INTEREST RATES
by Karl R. Bopp
before the

INSTITUTE OF INVESTMENT BANKING
sponsored by
Investment Bankers Association of America
and
Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pa.
April 6, 1955 - 11:00 a.m.

I.

Our Common Objective:
A.

Stable Economic Growth

We have a money economy: spending money is like
casting votes for what we want produced 1. Want enough votes cast to utilize available resources

Role of Government
and Central Bank

2.

Freedom to choose
i.e., general, impersonal controls rather than direct or selective

B.

Our money - with a fractional reserve system - is largely based on debt
- a bank is a dealer in debts

C.

So, the volume of money, the volume and character of debts, and
the terms and conditions under which they may be exchanged
play a large role in economic development

(A few words about fiscal policy before we go into debt management)
II.

Fiscal Policy and Size of the Debt




A.

Debt is primarily result of wars and depressions
U.S. Public Debt Outstanding
($ millions)

June 30, 1916 ............
1,225
•
1 91 9 ............ .. 24,485 )11 successive
"
1930 .............. 16,185 )annual reductions
*
1939 ............ .. 40,440 + 5,451 Guaranteed
Feb. 28, 194 6............ .. 279,214
April
1949 ............ .. 251,530
Mar. 29, 1955 ............ .. 274,133




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B.

Changes in debt - receipts and expenditures
Result of Congressional action
1.

Automatic
(a)

Nature of Federal tax system:

receipts

Calendar 1954.
Direct on individuals . . 7
32 FT/.
20 ) ' *
On corporations.........
7.6
Social insurance .......

68.6
(b)

Expenditures
Social Security
Support program

(c)

2.

Automatic economic stabilizers are
automatic debt destabilizers

Di scretionaxy
Political aspects

C.

Old and newer ideas on fiscal policy
1.

Old idea: Government concerned only with
its own fiscal problems
Government decided cost of what it wanted to do
Passed taxes to pay
Annual balance - except for extraordinary items

2.

Newer idea:
(a)

Government has a general economic responsibility

(b)

Fiscal policy has important repercussions on the economy
(1)

D.

Magnitude

70/350 billion G.N.P.

Compensatory fiscal policy
1.

The idea

2.

Automatic stabilizers

3.

Limits
(a)

(see above)

The budget process
(1)
(2)
(3)
(4.)
(5)

Agencies now working on budget for fiscal 1957
By September 1955 departmental estimates due for 1957
Budget Bureau review
President submits in January 1956
Budget year begins July 1, 1956

(b) Projections - 18-24- months in advance
(c) Applies to calendar year
The more flexible you make it the harder for business to
(d)

Conclusion:
^

powerful but not very flexible

differences should not be ▼*. stabilization

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E.

III.

3 -

At any rate debt managers are confronted with results
of Congress and. its own previous decisions (on maturities)

Debt Management
End freb. 1955
Total debt
about............. $278 billion
Non-market (includ. conv.) .(11.7) . 120
"
I0UR INTEREST IS IN Marketables . . $158
Alternative principles.
A.

No rabbits in the hat!

Lowest interest cost
1.

Obviously don't make any issue "too sweet"

2.

But if this is BASIC objective

3.
B.

"

(a)

Pressure on monetary authority - pre-Accord
to make all credit cheap and plentiful

(b)

Also tends to rising interest structure
so issue shorts - end with basket of quicksilver

Of course» it makes for ease of flotation

Tailor issues to investor demand
1.

Nice sounding title
Of course» need judgment as to available funds
and investor groups.

2.

"Investor demand" not absolute (Ownership Chart p. 32-33)
Depends on relative attractiveness of issues
e.g. corporate purchases of bills

3*

What it comes down to is - other borrowers would
get what they want and Treasury would get what is left
i.e. short-tenas in boom and long-terms in depression

Ion supply of funds

fen demand for funds

Aggravate the business cycle
C.




Counter - cyclical
1.

(compensatory)

Intellectual appeal

Vary liquidity to suit requirements of the economy
2.

Some problems - need to predict economic future
(a)

When do you issue long terms?
(1)

In prosperity! - But
(i) Risk of failure - other demands are then strong
(ii)

(iii)

Means when rates are high: successive issues
at higher rates. Also late prosperity
issues will go to premium.
Hard to explain to unsophisticated audience

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In depression?
(i)

(b)

No

For fear of aggravating depression
bat funds are plentiful then

What about economic conditions vhen bonds mature?
(1) Make callable - but not for nothing

(c)

3.
D.

Illustrate vith problem of savings bonds economy would best be served if people bought
during inflation - but is individual?

Some hope if cycles remain moderate in amplitude

Balanced debt structure
1.

Various meanings
(a)

Chicago idea of only cash + consols

(b)

Have funds flowing thru market in orderly way
Regular maturities - say quarterly

(c)

IV.

Need of the economy for liquidity

E.

Debt management can make a modest contribution

F.

Has to manage in market as fixed ty central bank

Monetary Policy and Interest Rates




A.

Alternative extremes

1*

Pegged rates
- lose control over supply and availability
of money and reserves

2.

A predetermined supply of money
- lose control over cost or rates

3.

Pegged market
"Free?*market - part of it is market's expectation
of what the F.R.S. and Treasury will dot
Flexible market
Orderly market

B.

Flexible interest rates
1.

Principles
(a) Objective is not to achieve any given rate of
interest or any given quantity of money

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(b)

Influence supply, availability and cost so that
"the supply and flow of credit is neither so large
as to induce destructive inflationary forces nor
so small as to stifle our great and growing economy."
(W. McC. Martin, April 9* 1954» Pullman, Wash.)

(c)

Open market operations )
Discounting
)

,, , . .

Reserve requirements
(d)
2.

Basically not structural but general
except Reg. T and TJ

Recent illustrations
(a)

The year 1953 as a whole
Directives to Executive Committee of F.O.M.C.
"Transactions for the System open market
account should be with a view ...
(1) March 4-5
"to exercising restraint upon
inflationary developments"
(2)

June 11
"to avoiding deflationary tendencies
without encouraging a renewal of infla­
tionary developments (which in the near
future will require aggressive supplying
of reserves to the market)."

(3)

September 24
"to avoiding deflationary tendencies."

(4)

December 15
"to promoting growth and stability in
the economy by actively maintaining a
condition of ease in the money market."
(5) March 3, June 23, Sept. 22, 1954
Repeated
(6)

V.

December 7, 1954
Deleted "actively".

Government Policy as a Market Factor




A.

Based on estimates by policy officials of economic prospects
1.

Important to keep informed of what they say
e.g., Martin^ Sproul

2.

Changes are usually moderate: a little more, a little
less. Tet don't have precise control. Resolve doubts
on side of ease or restraint.

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B.

Reflected currently in what is happening:
1.

Regular releases

Is the Fed, in the market?
(a)

There are times and areas when and where this is
important; e.g. the May 1953 purchases after the
April speech of Martin
Watch "other than bills" but note refundings 1
Annual Report fo r 1954* p. 68, gives holdings
by issues.

(b)

Ordinarily, however, mere change in portfolio
in and of itself not so important

2 . Wh£ is the Fed. in the maiket?

(a)
(b)

Excess - avail, to expand

Margins not totals




Non-controliable factors
Currency
Treasury Deposits
Float
Reserve balances
Total - A growing economy needs more unless
reserve requirements are reduced
Borrowings - must be repaid
"Free" - net avail, for expansion
Question of distribution

(c) Money rates
(d)
3.

From policy to principles to operations
(a)

Projections of the non-controllable factors

(b)

Inevitable errors in projections

(c)

How correct for errors
(i) Bring average in line?
What happens to subsequent days? - and weeks?
Regular way transactions
Cash transactions
Repurchase agreements
Changes in level over a longer period

(d)
(e)
(f)
(g)
C,

Availability

Conclusions on
Stable growth
ftaployment
Prices