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WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 1, 1990
10J10 P.M. EDT
THURSDAY, AUGUST 2, 1990
11:10 A.M. TOKYO TIME

"Problems in the U.S. Banking System"
Remarks by
John P. LaWare
Member, Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System
at the
National Banking Convention
sponsored by the
KINZAI Institute for Financial Affairs
Tokyo, Japan
August 2, 1990

"Problems in the U.S. Banking System”
Remarks bv
John P. LaWare
Member. Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System
at the
National Banking Convention
sponsored bv the
KINZAI Institute for Financial Affairs
Tokvo. Japan
August 2. 1990
It is a great pleasure for me to be once again in this great
city of Tokyo after too long an absence.

You do me a great honor

by asking me to address this distinguished audience.

Thank you

for inviting me to be with you and for the opportunity to share
with you my views about the current banking situation in the
United States.

In my remarks I will try to explain the origins

of the problems which are presently troubling banks in my
country, and I will also suggest some of the solutions to those
problems which I believe will be considered over the next year or

so.

The most significant event in recent United States financial
history was the cataclysmic collapse of the savings and loan
industry.

As many as a third of the federally insured S&Ls may

fail before the mess is finally cleaned up, and the remaining

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institutions, for the most part, are only modestly profitable.
Many of the survivors are under-capitalized and may not be able
to achieve satisfactory capital ratios as required by law.
Retained earnings will not be sufficient and the capital markets
are not anxious to try to float issues for discredited
institutions.
numbers.

The entire industry, will shrink significantly in

Many savings and loans will only survive as

subsidiaries of other kinds of financial institutions after being
driven to sale or merger by the need for capital.

The root causes of this disaster are several:

First, rapid deregulation of interest rates at a time when
market rates were high which destroyed the profitability of
portfolios of fixed-rate mortgage loans.

Second, a relaxation of supervision by the Federal Home Loan
Bank Board just at a time when increased supervision would have
been more appropriate.

Third, state legislators and federal and state regulators
relaxed rules governing the operations of the S&Ls allowing them
to make commercial loans, equity investments in securities (junk
bonds, for example) and real estate.

The historic operation of

thrift institutions simply had not prepared managers to venture

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into these new activities and the results were predictably
unfavorable.

Fourth, the increase in 1980 of deposit insurance from
$40,000 to $100,000 provided additional stability and insulation
from market discipline, encouraging greater risk-taking by
managers to offset losses in traditional businesses.

Finally, the traffic in brokered deposits at higher than
market rates of interest enabled institutions to grow rapidly but
encouraged greater risk-taking in order to offset the higher
costs.

These conditions constituted an open invitation to
unscrupulous opportunists to move in and milk the institutions
through self-dealing, exorbitant salaries and expense accounts,
and wildly irresponsible lending and investment practices.

At

the same time, examination schedules were relaxed and Congress
and the administration failed to recognize the emerging crisis.
The Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation and the
Federal Home Loan Bank Board did not have sufficient funds to
examine and supervise the savings and loan associations properly.

The resultant cost to the taxpayers is totally without
precedent.

By one estimate it will be $500 billion over a period

of several years or $2,000 for every man, woman, and child in the

United States.

To date over $78 billion of funds for the

resolution of failed institutions has been authorized and $55
billion has been disbursed.

By June 30, 1990, 207 failed

institutions with $65 billion of assets had been resolved and 247
institutions with $142 billion of assets were under
conservatorship.

Another 270 institutions with about $170

billion in assets have severely impaired capital and poor
earnings and are likely to fail.

A whole industry has thus been

plunged into disarray by a series of tragic mistakes and
miscalculations.

It must not happen again.

I have taken this much time discussing the S&L situation
because it is an appropriate introduction to my topic of problems
in the U.S. commercial banking system.

The scope and depth of

the S&L mess has prompted re-examination of the banking industry
in an attempt to determine whether it has in it the seeds of a
similar disaster.

If the threat exists, then we need to know

what needs to be done to prevent it.

At the very heart of the problem is our unique system of
deposit insurance.

Federal deposit insurance was conceived by

Congress as a way to stabilize the banking system in times of
financial uncertainty.

The experience of the late 1920's and

early 1930's showed that sound banks could fail in a panic,
because depositors, unable to judge for themselves whether their
bank was solvent, rushed to exchange bank deposits for cash.

In

fact no bank can survive a sustained run and many financially
sound banks failed in the panic of 1929 and subsequent years.
Depositors panicked and the banks could not liquidate assets fast
enough to pay depositors on demand.

The problem was compounded

by the stance of the administration and the Federal Reserve which
withheld liquidity from the system just when it was most needed.
The resultant destabilization further aggravated the economic
downturn and is now believed to have deepened and prolonged the
depression of the 1930's.

Deposit insurance, which had been in existence in several
states on a limited basis for some time, was seized upon as a way
to stop runs and prevent solvent banks from failing in a panic.
It has probably worked too well.

Bank managers, made bolder by

the protection deposit insurance provided, have found it easier
to take greater risks and to allow capital ratios to decline.
With deposit insurance, capital was less important in protecting
depositors from asset risk.

The tragic history of the savings

and loan industry provides many examples which prove the case.

The current dilemma is how to change the deposit insurance
system to eliminate the danger of excessive risk-taking while at
the same time retaining the ability to avoid panic-motivated
consumer runs.

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There is far less evidence of venal exploitation of
commercial banks than in the case of the S&Ls.

But, there is

certainly enough evidence to counsel caution and to raise serious
questions about extending deposit insurance protection to a broad
spectrum of new businesses which banks are asking to enter.

The

United States Treasury is now preparing recommendations to
Congress on how to reform this system.

The difficult part of deposit insurance reform will be to
strike the right balance.

Any re-introduction of market

discipline by exposing depositors to more risk will have an
offsetting effect of somewhat less stability for the system.
And, perhaps most difficult of all, will be any effort to make
significant changes in a system which, after 55 years, is deeply
imbedded in our commercial culture.

Deposit insurance is the centerpiece of the so-called
federal safety net mechanism.

The pivotal issue in consideration

of new powers and the future structure of the banking system will
be whether to extend the protection of the safety net to new
financial activities of banks.

Depending on how that issue is

resolved, the future structure of the banking system will be
determined.

The safety net has three components.
insurance.

The first is deposit

The second is emergency liquidity assistance provided

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through the discount window at Federal Reserve Banks.

(Liquidity

assistance was an important reason for creating the Federal
Reserve in the first place.)

The third element of the safety net

is access to the payments system through clearing and settlement
services of the Federal Reserve.

An argument frequently used against spreading the safety net
any wider, that is to say, granting additional powers to
federally insured banks, is that the safety net provides a
subsidy to banks.

The assumption is that banks can fund and

capitalize themselves at lower cost than other financial
institutions because the insurance of deposits and access to
emergency liquidity insulate them from failure.

But whatever

advantage is gained in funding cost is at least partially offset
by the opportunity cost of the sterilized noninterest-bearing
reserves member banks must keep at the Fed, the cost of services
provided to depositors by banks acting as paying and collecting
agents, and the substantial cost of reporting and compliance
imposed by regulation.

Unfortunately, we do not have a precise quantitative
analysis of this much discussed subsidy.

In any case, the

numbers would vary widely from bank to bank depending on the
deposit mix and which purchased funds markets a particular
institution might use.

In my opinion, access to the discount

window may be the most important element of the safety net,

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particularly in this era of widely fluctuating markets and
volatile interest rates.

In return for the support to the banking system provided by
deposit insurance, Congress assumed for the government a much
more aggressive role in regulating and supervising insured banks.
Commercial banks or bank holding companies in the United States
may be subject to regulation by several different regulators.

In

a given situation, each of these regulators may have a different
objective and the regulations they impose may be contradictory.
A bank holding company operating in more than one state may also
have elements subject to several different regulators.

A state-

chartered bank which is not a member of the Federal Reserve
System will be subject to state regulation and regulation by the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.

A state-chartered bank

which is a member of the Federal Reserve will be subject to state
regulation, regulation by the Federal Reserve, and insurance
oversight by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.

A

nationally chartered bank will be regulated by the Office of the
Comptroller of the Currency and insured by the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation, and, if it or any of the others mentioned
above, are part of a bank holding company, they will be subject
to overall supervision by the Federal Reserve.

If a holding

company also has a federally insured thrift institution in its
organizational structure, two more regulatory elements may be
introduced:

the Savings Association Insurance Fund (SAIF) and

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the Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS).

Is it any wonder that

bankers tear their hair and find it difficult to understand what
they may do and what they may not do?

Politically, it is probably not practical to change the
basic structure of deposit insurance as it is perceived by the
public.

That is to say, any attempt to reduce insurance coverage

below the $100,000 level would be seen by depositors as a take­
away and would not be well received.

One possible way to handle the problem is to require much
higher capital levels for banks which want to grow rapidly or
expand into new lines of business.

Before deposit insurance in

the United States, it was not unusual for banks to have capital
of ten, fifteen, even twenty-five percent of assets.

Those

levels of capital did not prevent banks from failing but they did
provide an investor cushion to absorb losses before depositors
were at risk.

If new higher capital requirements are imposed along with
authority for supervisors to intervene in deteriorating
situations before banks fail, much of the threat of loss to the
insurance fund might be eliminated.

And that approach would not

be visible to the public; therefore, it would not be seen as a
take-away and difficult to achieve politically.

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A practical problem in such an approach is the difficulty of
imposing higher capital standards at a time when the capital
markets are not anxious to underwrite bank securities and bank
stocks are selling at low multiples of earnings and well below
book value.

In general, United States securities markets will

assign a higher earnings multiple to a bank stock if the return
on equity is above 15 percent.

If we assume that a 6 percent

equity-to-asset ratio and a total capital-to-asset ratio of 10
percent would be highly desirable, then to show a return on
equity of 15 percent a bank would need to earn ninety basis
points on average assets.

Those kinds of returns are relatively

common in the United States among super-regionals and even moneycenter banks in normal times.

It might be possible for

institutions operating at high capital levels to have much
greater freedom in choosing what businesses to enter.

On the

other hand, banks at or just above the levels required by the
Basel accords might have to conform to strenuous application and
approval standards.

And those whose capital had fallen below

minimum risk-based capital standards might be constrained in
growth, prohibited from entering new businesses, and required to
develop an approved plan for attaining satisfactory capital
levels.

On the issue then of insurance reform, I believe there will
be changes in the supervision and regulation of banks which will
be designed to protect the insurance fund.

I think such steps

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can be effective and are a more likely approach, for political
reasons, than any attempt to change the form or extent of
individual insurance coverage.

But no examination of American banking today would be
complete without some discussion of competitiveness.

And we need

to think in terms of competitiveness in a global economy and
global capital markets.
swiftly today than ever.

Capital flows more freely and more
As a result, significant changes in one

of the major economies are soon reflected in currency values,
capital flows, and economic activity in the others.

This new economic interdependence and the institutional
competitiveness it fosters are just two of the many factors which
suggest it is time to look at the United States financial system
with an eye to updating structure and regulation.

The last

fundamental reshaping of the system came in the 1930's with the
Glass-Steagall Act, deposit insurance, and regulation of the
securities markets.

There were also several measures to

stimulate the housing market by bringing home-ownership within
the reach of many who, without federal assistance of one kind or
another, could never have hoped to achieve it.

The issues raised in any such broad re-examination of the
financial system are complex and not generally well understood.
Unfortunately, any legislative solution considered will be

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influenced by some who remain emotionally committed to now
discredited historic ideas.

The most prominent of these

discredited notions is the one which blamed securities activities
of the banks for the market crash of 1929 and the resultant
Depression.

The error of that judgment led to the Glass-Steagall

Act and the separation from commercial banking of the brokerage
and underwriting of securities.

But Glass-Steagall is only one

of the issues with which we must deal.

American banking today is embattled both at home and abroad.
At home, traditional customer relationships have eroded as
foreign banks and the money markets have offered cheaper access
to working capital for U.S. businesses, and U.S. businesses faced
with narrower margins and greater financing needs have made
decisions according to price rather than historic relationships.

United States banks find themselves faced with higher
capital costs and higher funding costs than many of their
competitors.

And, domestically, the spectrum of services banks

may offer is so narrow as to preclude the "one-stop-banking"
approach that many banks advertised to consumers only a few years
ago.

I will not recite all the numbers to show how U.S. banks
have slipped in terms of their world position measured by the
size of their balance sheets.

Frankly, I don't think that's a

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very good index.

Japanese banks, for example, which have had

such dramatic growth in the last few years, are modest performers
when measured in terms of return on assets.
to 30 basis points.
points.

And yet!

Many struggle to get

U.S. banks commonly earn at 90 to 100 basis
How do we account for the disproportionate

growth of Japanese and European banks in the past 10-12 years?

Are other bankers smarter?
they more innovative?

Perhaps, but I think not.

Are

Well, I think the record would support an

argument that U.S. bankers have been very innovative in lending,
investment, and cash management techniques.

Perhaps, in fact,

they have been world leaders in innovation, but with a rather
narrower spectrum in which to apply it.

There is also a case to be made that foreign competitors of
U.S. banks operate under a more benign and easily understood
burden of regulation and compliance.

For American banks these

burdens are the result of well-intended legislation drafted
without a full appreciation of the cost to banks of additional
reporting and monitoring.

And, aside from cost considerations,

the constraints of regulation seriously limit managers in making
business decisions.

It is also fairly obvious to me that the American ethic of
short-term profits and matching short-term strategies puts
American banks and financial institutions at a great

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disadvantage.

Foreign competitors take a longer view which is

apparently condoned and rewarded by their capital markets.
Forgoing short-term profits to gain market share by bidding deals
at skinny profit margins is considered smart in many countries.
In the United States such behavior is punished with lower stock
prices and higher interest costs for borrowed capital.

Much has been made in the press and other media of the asset
quality problems of United States banks:

Loans to lesser

developed countries are a common problem with banks around the
world; leveraged buy-outs which are closely related to junk bonds
and require expert lending skill with special attention to cash
flow; and, more recently, commercial real estate loans —
particularly construction loans.

These are large problems, but I

would argue that United States banks are far better able to
handle the challenge they present today than they would have been
only a few years ago.

Since 1982 U.S. banks have absorbed huge charge-offs in
their LDC portfolios, have encountered and managed problems with
highly leveraged transactions, particularly leveraged buy-outs,
and dealt with fundamental changes in real estate markets and
construction lending.

During this same period in which major

challenges have appeared banks have significantly strengthened
their capital ratios while at the same time prudently reserving
against loss exposure.

From the standpoint of capital, American

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banking organizations are stronger today than they have been for
decades.

And, interestingly, the best capitalized banks are

often among the most profitable.
leverage is past.

Perhaps the era of maximizing

Experience shows that adequate capital builds

market acceptance and also provides the best protection for
depositors.

I would suggest to you that United States banks are aware of
the competitive environment, eager to compete, acceptably
profitable, reasonably capitalized, and not yet so disadvantaged
as to size that they cannot provide a competitive challenge.
What then needs to be done to enable them to compete fully both
at home and abroad in the financial services markets?

The answer is diversification.

The United States banking

system needs the ability to diversify geographically by branching
across state lines.

The United States is the only country to

impose geographic boundaries on its banking system.

Just imagine

what Bank of America, Citibank, Chase, and Chemical would be
today if they enjoyed nationwide branching privileges as their
international competitors do.

Nationwide branching not only

reduces funding costs, but it also diversifies credit risks —
both important factors in profitability.

Another element of diversification is product
diversification.

Banks or bank holding companies should be

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allowed to offer a full spectrum of financial services for
businesses as well as households.

Investment banking services

for businesses and securities brokerage for individuals are
keystones of this diversification, but there are many other
financial services now foreclosed to banks which are a natural
extension of a banking franchise.

These include:

sales of

insurance, insurance underwriting, and real estate brokerage.
a general principle, banks —

or bank holding companies —

As

ought

to be able, in my opinion, to provide any financial service to
their customers.

But, in the United States there will be important questions
raised about the structure of the banking system which would
permit diversification geographically and by product line
consistent with safety and soundness considerations and
protection of the safety net.

It is my opinion that the S&L mess and concerns about
additional risks in federally insured banks will result in the
adoption of the financial services holding company model for the
financial system rather than the universal bank model which is
common in Germany and other European countries.

In this model the insured bank in a holding company
structure is isolated from the risks of nonbanking activities by
firewalls which block financial transactions and capital flows

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from the bank to the nonbank affiliates.

In this way the holding

company is prevented from using insured deposits to finance
nonbank activities and the risk inherent in those activities is
not assumed by the deposit insurance fund.

In the interest of competitiveness the so-called firewalls
could be minimized and limited simply to financial transactions,
even permitting financial transactions if they are fully secured
with unquestionable collateral such as U.S. government
securities.

Product cross-selling and management and directo-

interlocks might be allowed without compromising the insurant
fund.

But, United States banks have other competitive
disadvantages which also demand attention.

While the states

individually are slowly moving to remove barriers to interstate
banking, the process needs to be speeded up.

Federal legislation

to amend the McFadden Act which prohibits branching across state
lines is badly needed.

This would enable banks to gather

deposits more efficiently, would promote consolidation of the
industry, and permit, elimination of redundant organizational
elements which are costly and not needed.

These moves would help

to improve the profitability of commercial banking.

In addition,

we need reform of our regulatory structure to eliminate the
redundancy and confusion caused by three different federal

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regulators and 50 different state regulators whose policies and
regulations are often contradictory and confusing.

One deposit insurer for all federally insured deposit-taking
institutions, one regulator for all federally chartered banks,
and one for all bank holding companies and state-chartered banks
would be an improvement over what is now in place.

True to the title of my address today, I have tried to
describe some of the problems faced by United States banks and I
have suggested some possible solutions to those problems.
will not come easily.

Change

There are many political and emotional

hurdles to be overcome, but I believe there is now general
acceptance in my country of the need for massive legislative,
regulatory, and financial restructuring of the banking system.
None of the present problems are fatal, but, if we don't deal
with them soon in an objective and imaginative way, American
banks will fall behind their Japanese and European competitors in
seeking a rewarding share of the dynamic global financial market
which is emerging.

Thank you again most sincerely for the privilege of sharing
these thoughts with you.