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For Release 1:00 P. M.
Mountain Standard Time
May 14, 1970_________




Remarks of J. L. Robertson
Vice Chairman of the Board of Governors
of the
Federal Reserve System
before the
Boards of Directors of the Federal Reserve
Bank of San Francisco and Its Los Angeles
Branch and Area Bankers and Businessmen
Westward Ho Hotel
Phoenix, Arizona
May 14, 1970

The Task Ahead

It is a great pleasure to be out here in sunny
Phoenix. However, there is one difficulty that I en­
counter when I get out of Washington. I find that people
are constantly asking me what is going to happen to the
economy, apparently assuming that I know the answer. I
do not consider myself to be a prophet, and I am not an
expert at economic forecasting. The economists are be­
coming more and more adept at making projections, but I
find that sometimes even they get so wrapped up in trends
that they make mistakes similar to the one made by an old
friend from my home town, Broken Bow, Nebraska.
She was taking her first airplane ride to Europe.
Soon after leaving New York, the pilot announced to the
passengers that the number one engine had failed. "There
is nothing to worry about," he said, "but we will be about
an hour late getting into London." An hour later he came
on the intercom again to announce that the number two en­
gine had failed. "Don't be concerned," he said. "We have
plenty of power in the remaining two engines, but we will
now be two hours late into London." Shortly after, he
came on again. "Ladies and gentlemen," he said, "I re­
gret to announce that the number three engine has just
failed. Please don't be concerned, but we will be delayed
an additional hour in getting to London."
My friend turned to the man sitting next to her
and said, "Sakes alive'. I certainly hope that fourth en­
gine doesn't fail or we will be up here all day."
Obviously it is not always safe to project a trend,
and it is difficult to call a change in a trend in advance.
I do not intend to project any economic trends today. How­
ever, I would like to say a few words about a different kind
of trend that should be of concern to all of us. I refer to
the trend away from strict adherence to the law. This is
not as easily measured as economic data, but it can be ob­
served. And I think that we can forecast with some assur­
ance what its consequences will be if we do not reverse it.
One of the remarkable achievements of any civiliza­
tion, including our own, is the establishment of the rule




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of lav». This involves securing the consent of something
like 99 per cent of the population that they will abide by
certain rules. I do not know exactly what the percentage
is, but it has to be pretty close to unanimous consent for
the system to work. If any substantial percentage of the
population refuses to observe the agreed rules - the law then the whole system breaks down. We do not have enough
policemen and prisons to make the system work if a substan­
tial portion of the population is determined to ignore or
defy the law. This was what the British discovered in In­
dia when Mahatma Gandhi and his followers resorted to mas­
sive civil disobedience.
This is what we recently discovered in our own
country when many of our postal employees flouted the law
and went on strike. The postal strike was soon followed
by another illegal strike, that of the air controllers.
These strikes, because of the number of people involved
and the number affected, dealt a serious blow to the no­
tion that the law must be obeyed.
However, viewed in perspective, they are only the
latest events in a trend of permissiveness and law-flouting
that goes back several years. Those who have engaged in
illegal strikes have justified and rationalized their ac­
tions by pointing to others who have advanced their own
interests by defying the law. Every act of defiance, every
violation of law that goes unpunished serves to weaken one
of the bedrock principles upon which our society is based that the law must be obeyed. This produces a cumulative
effect, which will in the end profoundly weaken and per­
haps destroy the rule of law.

This should be of profound interest to all of us.
No group, least of all those in the banking business, can
sit back and view these trends with equanimity. I am sure
that all of you are well aware of what happened to the Bank
of America branch at Isla Vista, California. All of you
have probably seen the statement attributed to one of the
country's leading opponents of the rule of law, Rennie Davis,
in which he said that the 1970's would be the years in which
to burn the banks.




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If we are to reverse this disastrous trend, we
must individually raise our voices to demand that the
laws of this country be respected and be enforced. They
will not be respected if they are not enforced, and they
cannot be properly enforced if they are not respected by
the overwhelming majority of the people. All of us, gov­
ernment officials, bankers, businessmen, labor leaders,
and, in fact, all concerned citizens, must be scrupulously
correct in observance of the law. We are going to be in
a weak position to criticize others if we ourselves are
guilty of stretching the law as if it were a rubber band,
or of cutting legal corners.
Cutting corners may not be a violation of law,
but is it ethical to seek out ways of legally evading
laws and regulations adopted to promote the public inter­
est? To be sure, there are those who say that it is up
to the authorities to devise perfect laws and regulations
that will have the effect of making everything that is un­
desirable also illegal. But there is a higher standard.
A man of character does not require laws that constrain
him to do what is ethical or is in the best interests of
the community. We rightly look down on those shady types
who make their way in the world by skirting along the
fringes of the law, observing the letter but ignoring the
spirit. The best society is one in which men do what is right
because they believe that it is right, not because a police­
man is standing over them watching their every move.
I cannot condemn too strongly those who burn banks
or college buildings or who advocate illegal violence for
any end. But I also shudder at the damage that is being
done by those who ignore court rulings, or who interpret
the law to suit their own notions of what it ought to say.
One could cite examples from almost any walk of life to­
day, but if I looked too far afield I might be charged
justly with hypocrisy. So let me use tendencies observ­
able in my own field - banking. But let it be clear that
in so doing, there is no intent to leave the implication
that banks and bank regulators are the only ones touched
by the malady to which I am pointing a finger.




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Sticking as closely to my own field of endeavor
as possible, let me say that I have seen no great rush
by the federal bank regulatory agencies to comply with
the law of the land, as expressed by the Supreme Court,
in the first decision written by Warren Burger as Chief
Justice, over five months ago. (First National Bank in
Plant City, Florida vs. Fred 0> Dickenson et al, 396 U.S.
122) The actual decision in that case calls for rever­
sals of administrative rulings with respect to whether
depositories and pick-up services are branches, and its
reasoning calls for a change in the rulings concerning
loan production offices.
In the field of commercial banking one need look
no further than the devices used by some bankers, in the
last year or so, to enable their institutions to avoid
the impact of the Federal Reserve's restrictive antiinflationary monetary policies.
I do not think the banks want to have the Fed­
eral Reserve act as an omnipresent policeman, directing
every move they make. The Federal Reserve, as a regula­
tory agency, strives to lay down guidelines for the banks
that are generally recognized to be in the public inter­
est. The System has been deliberately structured to in­
sure that its decisions are made after/taking into account
a wide diversity of views. This is because we know that
we must have the willing cooperation of the banks we regu­
late.
When that cooperation is not forthcoming, our sys­
tem is in trouble. One of the reasons we have had so much
trouble bringing inflation under control during the past
year and a half is because we have not had the willing co­
operation of much of the banking system. We sought to curb
the volume of money and credit chasing after goods and ser­
vices, driving prices upward at an excessive rate. Our
efforts to reduce inflationary pressures by the imposition
of monetary restraint were frustrated and delayed by the
ingenuity of the banking system in finding ways to get
around the restraints of monetary policy and regulation.
A large part of this ingenuity was exercised to raise funds
with which to honor unwise "commitments to lend", which had




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been designed to enable big customers to avoid the impact
of "tight money" and force others (like small business,
housing, state and local governments, etc.) to take the
brunt of it.
As you know, the Federal Reserve has endeavored for
a year and a half to combat inflation by tightening the
availability and cost of money and credit. Ever since De­
cember 1968, we have directed our open market operations
to achieve this goal. In April 1969 we increased reserve
requirements and boosted the discount rate. Throughout
1969 we maintained the existing ceilings on interest rates
under Regulation Q (although we did adjust them upwards
early in 1970). By those actions we hoped to achieve a
substantial moderation in the expansion of business loans,
with some slowdown in the growth of consumer credit as well.
If this objective had been achieved and demand curtailed,
much of the steam would have been taken out of the infla­
tionary forces early in the struggle.
While some of the expected cutbacks in lending
took place, the objective was not achieved because of the
use by many banks of various devices to acquire additional
loanable funds, free from the restraints imposed by reserve
requirements and interest ceilings.
Initially these activities were helpful to the
banks in cushioning their adjustments to deposit losses,
caused by market interest rates rising well above the ceil­
ing rates that they were permitted to pay on deposits. But
as time went on and banks continued to increase their use
of these other sources of funds, the devices became escape
hatches rather than safety valves. They became massive
leaks in our system of monetary restraint.
One result was that commercial bank lending was
not effectively curbed in 1969. Business loans expanded
at about the same rapid pace as in the latter part of 1968.
If we adjust the statistics to take account of sales of
business loans under repurchase agreements, the rate of
increase of business loans made by weekly reporting banks
actually rose in 1969. Monetary policy succeeded only in




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curbing business lending by the smaller banks. The big
banks found ways to step up their lending while the Fed­
eral Reserve was trying to get them to exercise restraint.
We tried to plug up some of the loopholes. One
big one was the banks' use of Euro-dollars. The big banks
doubled their Euro-dollar liabilities in the first seven
months of 1969. This led us to impose a reserve require­
ment on funds acquired through overseas branches, effec­
tive last October. This has helped discourage increased
use of this source of funds.
Some banks also made heavy use of commercial paper,
mainly that of their newly created one-bank holding com­
panies, to obtain so-called nondeposit funds with which to
make more loans. We have had under consideration for some
time measures designed to plug this loophole, but they have
not yet been applied. The loophole still exists, and com­
mercial paper liabilities of the banks rose nearly 50 per
cent in the first quarter of 1970.
There are those who have described the success the
banks have had in finding ways to avoid the impact of tighter
monetary policies as imaginative and healthy. They have cer­
tainly been imaginative. But I question whether they have
been healthy.
It is true that these actions were not strictly il­
legal or contrary to existing regulations, but only because
when the regulations were drafted, both the regulators and
the banks knew that deposits were deposits, and no one thought
they could become nondeposits when called by another name.
However, the frantic search for ways to increase lending ac­
tivity at a time when the whole nation, including the entire
banking fraternity, was alarmed at the inflationary pressures
that were so apparent, did not reflect a high degree of in­
tellectual consistency.
Is it really necessary and desirable that the Fed­
eral Reserve find itself in what one official has described
as the "undignified position of chasing after commercial
banks to plug up loopholes or throttle overworked safety




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valves?" I guess I am only saying what was said better
by the president of the New York State Bankers Associa­
tion, Mr. Patrick J. Clifford, about a year ago. He said:
,(Banks have a moral obligation to live up to the intent even more than the letter - of the regulations designed to
reduce inflationary pressures."
It is most unfortunate, for many reasons, that the
drive to bring inflation under control has been so long de­
layed. Aside from the disastrous effects on those people
least able to protect themselves, this lack of effective
action contributes to the erosion of faith in government
and respect for law. Those who are hard hit by inflation­
ary price rises have a legitimate grievance against those
of us who have, by our actions or inactions, let inflation
get so far ahead of us.
I am convinced that we are now on the right track
and that inflation will be curbed without a depression despite the many doubters still in our midst. However, it
is incumbent upon us to examine the experience of the last
few years with great care, to determine what our mistakes
have been and how they can be avoided in the future. We
simply have to find better and quicker ways of achieving
our objectives - full utilization of our human and material
resources, with a reasonable degree of price stability.
Our dilemma is well known. We know that inflation
can be checked if we put the brakes on economic expansion
hard enough. This has been done in the past and it has
been successful in bringing inflation under control, though
admittedly at the cost of keeping the economy operating be­
low capacity for too long. We have been searching for a
better way of reconciling the conflicting demands of price
stability and the maintenance of a high rate of utilization
of our productive resources. Some despair of achieving
this goal, but I do not. I think it is possible, but only
if we can reach broader agreement on the rules of the game.
All concerned, management and labor, bankers and business,
consumers and government, must understand the agreed rules
and then follow them - not try to find ways to evade them.




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The government's responsibility is especially
heavy, for others will not be inclined to collaborate
willingly in a battle against inflation if they do not
see government doing its part. Government must provide
the leadership, and it must lead by itself adopting and
adhering to proper policies. The people must be con­
vinced that the government is serious when it says that
it intends to bring inflation to an end. In short, we
must have a credible anti-inflationary program and the
willingness to bear whatever pain may be involved in mak­
ing it effective. We cannot again permit the development
of a credibility gap which leads businessmen to believe
that government will not follow through on its program
when the going gets rough.
Now we have in place a program that can do the
job. It is causing some pain, evidenced by a profit
squeeze, higher unemployment, lower stock prices, etc.;
all of which I regret. However, the pain of the hang­
over is the fault of the binge, not the fault of the black
coffee and tomato juice. If we wanted to avoid the pain,
we could simply prolong the binge, but the results would
in the end be something worse than a hangover.
Superficially, it would seem that quicker results
could be obtained by adopting controls over wages and
prices, but the consequences of that make me shudder. It
would take an army of policemen to enforce the rules, and
we would truly lose a large part of our precious freedom.
Those who had increased their wages and prices through the
exercise of their economic muscle would be frozen into po­
sition and the more public-spirited members of society
would be precluded from catching up.
We are right to press forward with an impersonal
stabilization program, based on sound monetary and fiscal
policies. But we must do our utmost (much more than we
have done thus far) to bring about a broad understanding
of the fact that this program will succeed, that evasive
tactics are not praiseworthy, and that inflation will be
halted. When, of course, depends upon how long it takes
for businessmen, labor leaders, bankers, and others who
make the decisions that are pushing wages and prices up,




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to understand that they, too, have an obligation to so­
ciety to take a broad view of their own interests and the
public's interest.
As I said before, we must have agreement that every­
one will not only play by the rules, but will cooperate in
achieving our common objective. This is easily said, but
I have no illusions that it will be easy to achieve. We
have had some experience with labor-management councils,
and we have tried to obtain voluntary compliance with eco­
nomic guideposts. These methods had some success for a
time, but they could not withstand the pressure created
by the failure of government itself to abide by the rules.
Too much inflationary pressure from the budget washed out
the guideposts and created tremendous problems for mone­
tary policy. Fine tuning will help an automobile that is
fundamentally sound run better; but a tune-up will not help
if the transmission is bad.
I think that a large part of our problem has been
in the transmission - the transmission of the basic ideas
that must be understood if everyone involved in this joint
effort is going to pull together and move in the same di­
rection .
Ultimately, it is ideas that move the world. The
political leaders, the consumers, the bankers, the busi­
nessmen and the labor leaders will cooperate only if they
all share a common goal and agree on the best way to achieve
it. This is not something that we can hope to accomplish
overnight; It takes time for ideas to penetrate and pro­
duce results. John Maynard Keynes pointed this out when
he wrote: "But soon or late, it is ideas, not vested in­
terests, which are dangerous for good or evil."
This being the case, we might reasonably conclude
that our frustrations in dealing with inflation in recent
years have been caused in large part by the ideas about
inflation and economic policy that were popularized in
past decades. If we want to ameliorate these problems in
the future, we should give the highest priority now to the
dissemination of the ideas that will help us combat infla­
tion .




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Put more specifically, people must understand that
maintenance of the integrity of the dollar is of foremost
importance. Without it we are in for trouble - trouble
from which even our bright younger generation will not be
able to extricate us. Consequently, one of the most im­
portant services we can perform now is to educate the pub­
lic about the evils of inflation and the measures necessary
to prevent it.
What do we tell them?
First, we must make it clear that our governmental
and economic institutions exist to benefit the people, bal­
ancing as equitably as possible the diverse demands that
must be satisfied in our pluralistic society. This is
fundamental, because if a substantial number of people are
hostile to our institutions, it will be difficult to get
them to play the game by the rules, whether the game is
combatting inflation or something else.
Second, I think we can agree that while our system
is predicated upon individualism, we should teach people to
take a broad view of self-interest. Maximization of profit
or maximization of wage increases may be self-defeating if
the result is to add to inflation and create losses in real
income for important segments of the population. People
must understand that the proper functioning of the system
is in their own best interests. They should be guided not
only by immediate personal opportunities for gain, but by
a broader understanding of what helps our economic system
to function properly.
Third, we must teach in every possible way the ele­
mentary principles of economics that explain what inflation
is, what its effects are, and how it can be avoided. It is
not enough these days that this information be confined to
the experts. Our policies are being influenced by popular
opinion, which is only proper. But where popular opinion
is swayed by information that is false, and theories that
bear no relationship to reality, countries are in trouble.
It is inevitable in such circumstances that economic messes
are created, and such messes either have to be lived with




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or cleaned up by rulers who override public opinion.
do not want either result in our country.

We

I suggest, therefore, that we have an obligation
not only to carry out forcefully, with no backsliding, the
policies that are indicated at this juncture. We have an
equal obligation to use our resources of talent to educate
ourselves and the public concerning the facts about infla­
tion, its causes, its effects, its dangers to people and
to the nation, and how we must manage economic policy to
keep our economy on an even keel. Our nation cannot es­
cape from the consequences of failing to abide by the laws
of economics, any more than it can escape from the conse­
quences of a breakdown in respect for its legal laws. I
have always been an optimist, and I still am. But I real­
ize that today we have our work cut out for us if we are
to halt and reverse the trends that spell grave trouble
for our country. We must individually and collectively
dedicate ourselves to the task of teaching by both example
and precept that our nation can continue to be great only
if its leaders and its people understand and observe both
its legal laws and the laws of economics.