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Remarks of J. L. Robertson, Member of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

before the
Independent Bankers Association,
Twelfth Federal Reserve District
at the
American Bankers Association Convention
Statier Hotel, Los Angeles, California
October 22, 1956

WA Long View of the Bank Holding Company Act"

When Public Law 511 was approved by President Eisenhower on May
9* I suspect that most of the people in this room participated in a sigh
of relief - and exhaustion - almost without precedent in the annals of
American banking. Personally, I was very pleased to see the end of that
chapter in the history of bank holding companies, for this year marked
the twentieth consecutive session of Congress during which I have worked
on at least one holding company bill. How many of you recall the socalled "freeze" bill - S. 3575 - that Senators Glass and McAdoo intro­
duced one cold morning early in 1938? To connoisseurs of holding company
legislation that by-gone bill is regarded in much the way lawyers regard
the ancient Babylonian Code of Hammurabi - rough and primitive, but under­
standable and effective*
Often during the intervening years I lost track of the current
status of this epic struggle - whether the bill currently "in favor" with
this group or that was of the "off-with-his-head" variety or one of the
mild administrative regulation type, or one of the dozen hybrids - some
of which look like monstrosities, in retrospect - we hatched over the last
two decades.
Now that we have the statute, the independent bankers of the coun­
try may feel they can breathe easier, but for the Federal Reserve the fu­
ture appears at least as difficult and laborious as the past. Saddled
with the thankless job of administering one important segment of the Act,
we are in danger of forgetting just where our part of the work fits into
the whole picture. Consequently, it would be of benefit to me - and per­
haps to you also - to draw back and view the Bank Holding Dompaiy Act in
perspective - to summarize briefly and broadly what that statute did with
finality and what it left to be worked out through regulation and adminis­
tration, chiefly by the Board of Governors,
From the point of view of the Board of Governors, life would be
much simpler today if Congress had passed old S. 3575. Its basic opera­
tive provisions were delightfully simple and would have req’dred little ad­
ministrative implementation - on the contrary, they would have cut down the
work of Federal bank supervisors. Just to make you nostalgic, let me read
to you the operative provisions of sections U and 5 of that bills




"Sec, In It shall be unlawful for any company to acquire
any capital stock • . , of any insured bank . . . if such com­
pany is or upon such acquisition would become a holding company
of any insured bank,
"Sec. 5* No insured bank shall establish cr operate . . .
any new or additional branches while such instired bank is con­
trolled by any holding company,"

I hare little doubt that some of the mere bloodthirsty gentlemen
present are at this moment smacking their lips over this reminder of "what
might have been"; but they, along with all the rest of us, must turn from
the dreams of the past to the harsh realities of the enrolled bill - a
bill designed to fill two gaps in the existing law: (1) to prevent undue
expansion in the number of banks controlled by holding con?)antes, and (2)
to require holding companies to divest themselves of nonbank businesses.
Let me make clear at the outset that the Bank Holding Company Act
is not a sinple law - it is sufficiently complicated to provide consider­
able work for the legal profession. In addition, it is far from being a
perfect piece of legislation. Ihis is not surprising in view of the com­
plexity of the subject and the fact that the Act represents an attempt to
reconcile so many different views. When he signed the bill the President
observed, as you well rementoer, that because of various exemptions and spe­
cial provisions, it falls short of achieving its objectives. Certainly
the statute contains some inconsistencies and some inequities.
For example, the definition of the term "bank holding company" is
based on 25% ownership or control of two or more banks. As a result, it
does not fully accomplish one of the major purposes of the legislation the prevention of potential abuses arising from control by a single cor­
poration of both banks and nonbank businesses. In testifying before the
committees of Congress, I argued that such abuses could exist as well where
a company controlling various business enterprises also controls one large
bank as where such a company controls a few small banks. I still believe
that the two-bank definition, while adequate with respect to "expansion”,
falls short of either consistency or equity when applied to the divestment
provisions of the Act.
Seme of the exemptions in the statute are difficult to justify on
logical grounds. A good illustration is the exemption of any company
registered before May 15, 1955 under the Investment Company Act. Ihis pro­
vision relieves one company, and, as far as I know, only one - from the re­
quirements of the statute, and I can see no rhyme or reason to justify it.
It seems obvious that the purposes and requirements of the Investment Com­
pany Act are totally different from those of the Bank Holding Company Act,
and I cannot understand why a company should be relieved from compliance
with the latter merely because it is subject to the former.
There are other exemptions in the divestment section of the Act
that clearly were tailored to fit the circumstances of particular cases and
to exclude particular companies. Several of these exemptions were added dur­
ing the dosing hours of debate on the bill in the Senate and their justi­
fication is, at best, doubtful.
As in other pieces of hard-fought legislation, there are some provi­
sions in this statute which are ambiguous and difficult to interpret. There




- 3are some which, if literally construed, would seem to lead to results con­
trary to the purposes of the law. There are instances in which it seems
the language of the /*ct will cover transactions which were not intended to
be covered, and other instances in which transactions should be covered but
are not.
The hard fact, however, is that despite its imperfections and in­
equities, the statute is now a part of the law of the land. If any of
us - in or out of Government - had different views on certain aspects of
the legislation before its enactment, those views are now irrelevant, ex­
cept with regard to suggestions for amending the law at the appropriate
time. The Board has a clear responsibility to apply the statute in accord­
ance with its terms and in the light of its general purposes. The Board's
job is to administer, not to legislate. In so doing, its sole aim will be
to perform its fanetions as efficiently as possible, and above all, with
fairness and impartiality.
Having determined - for good or ill - what is a bank holding com­
pany, the Act deals with the crucial question of what those companies may
continue to hold - or "get hold of" hereafter - and what they must let go
and never again pick up. That's the real meaning, as you know, of what are
called, in a dignified way, the ,,acquisitionl, and "divestment" provisions
of the law«
The so-called Douglas Amendment in effect declares that no holding
company may acquire additional banks outside of its own State, except in
States that have passed laws that explicitly welcome such acquisitions by
out-of-State holding companies. I shall leave it to your prophetic insight
to decide how many States may be expected to enact such permissive legisla­
tion at their next - or any other - legislative session.
The Holding Company Act also contains a flat prohibition against
holding companies' acquiring the stock of nonbank corporations, and requires
them to wind up or dispose of their nonbank businesses within the next few
years. As usual, there are a number of exceptions to these requirements,
but that is the general effect of section U of the «ct.
We see, therefore, that the out-of-State-expansion provisions and the
divestment-of-nonbanking-interests provisions of the Act are basically selfenforcing, although the Board of Governors has duties even with respect to
those matters that are likely to develop a number of thorny problems.
Now let us look at the Federal Reserve's principal assignment - which
naturally looms very large in my thinking* We are required to pass upon ap­
plications by holding companies for permission to acquire additional bank
stocks* In doing so, we must be guided by certain standards which Congress
has prescribed in the law itself* These standards relate to financial condition;




- h future prospects; character of management; needs of the community; and
restriction of holding company growth within limits consistent with sound
banking, the public interest, and the preservation of competition. These
are not rule-of-thumb standards. In applying them, the Board must care­
fully consider all the circumstances of each case that comes before it,
weighing one factor against another; and - needless to say - no factor
will always weigh the same and no two cases will ever be exactly alike.
The express requirement of the Holding Company Act that the Board
consider the effect of a proposed transaction upon the preservation of
competition presents problems that call for the wisdom of a Solomon - and
there are not many of them around. Whether you fully appreciate it or
not, there are some differences between a great metropolitan area - for
example, New York City - and my home town, Broken Bow, Nebraska. One can
imagine a multimillion dollar holding company acquiring a bank in Kew York
City without unduly upsetting competition there. But if such a corpora­
tion acquired one of the three small banks in Broken Bow, the other two
might fear that their life expectancy had been shortened. Even a Solomon
might have to ponder a while in applying the statute in such different
situations.
It is clear that the statute is not intended to prevent bank hold­
ing oompanies from expanding at all. Only if the expansion threatens to
go beyond limits consistent with sound banking, the public interest, and
the preservation of c««petition does the Act require that such expansion
be restrained. The problem is to determine just where those limits are in
a particular case.
It is, oJ course, impossible to devise mathematical formulas that
automatically will determine these limits. For example, it camot be
flatly said that a holding company which controls, say "X" per cent of the
bank deposits in a particular area should be permitted to expand further,
and that another company which controls "X 4 1" per cent should not be al­
lowed to expand. I do not mean that such evidence of concentration should
not be considered; it simply is not conclusive. There may be circumstances
in which the proposed acquisition of a bank by a holding company would be
entirely justified, even though the company already controls substantially
all the other deposits in the particular area. Such would be the case, for
example, if the bank to be acquired were in a failing condition and its ac­
quisition by the holding company were the most appropriate - perhaps the
only - way to maintain its existence.
In addition to problems of this kind, the Board is obliged to con­
sider questions arising in the interpretation of the language of the stat­
ute. A number of such questions have already arisen. What, for example,
is a "bank" within the meaning of the statute? Despite the seemingly clear
statutory definition, the Board at this very moment is trying to determine
whether it covers an institution which is engaged in activities that add
up to some thing very close to a banking business. Suppose prior to the




- 5Act a controlled bank made loans secured by stock of its holding company:
Must they be called? May they be renewed? May a holding company, hav­
ing bought up all the banks it wants in the State of its domicile, change
its domicile to another State and go on expanding? Or - to take what
some holding companies may regard as the $6U million question - what ac­
tivities are so "closely related to the business of banking" that they
may be exempted from the divestment provisions? These may seem to be
simple questions; but it is surprising how often the particular facts of
a case make it difficult.
Such difficulties in administering the statute are aggravated
by the fact that it brings the Board into what for it is a novel and
strange field. Rarely in the past, for example, has the Board had occa­
sion to hold formal administrative hearings. The new act contemplates
such hearings. When a bank holding company makes application to the
Board for approval of a proposed transaction, the Board must seek the
views of the appropriate State bank supervisor or the Comptroller of the
Currency. If these views are unfavorable to the proposed acquisition,
the Board must hold a formal hearing; and this is mandatory even though
the Board also might be inclined to deny the application. On the other
hand, if these views are favorable to the proposed acquisition, we may
make an adverse or unfavorable determination without having granted a
hearing. This may seem illogical, but it is irtiat the law provides.
No hearings have yet been held, but when they are, you can be sure
that the rights of all parties will be safeguarded in every way possible.
The principals will be permitted - and expected - to file pleadings, pre­
sent evidence, examine witnesses, submit proposed findings of fact and
concisions of law, aid so on. It is quite conceivable that the Board
soon may find itself conducting several of these hearings simultaneously
in different parts of the country - usually not in person, fortunately,
but through trial examiners.
It must be borne in mind that this is a criminal statute and
in the final analysis its interpretation will rest with the Department
of Justice and the courts. The Board, of course, must interpret the
statute to some extent in order to carry out its functions. But, in a
large measure, as I indicated previously, the Act is self-executing and
requires no action by the Board. For example, a subsidiary bank is pro­
hibited from making "upstream loans" to its parent holding company or
"cross-stream loans" to its sister subsidiaries, whether this provision
has been violated in a particular case would be determined by the Depart­
ment of Justice and the courts, but in all probability we would have ’in­
covered the facts in the course of our supervisory work.
It is not necessary to remind you that besides its new functions
under the Holding Company Act, the Board has many other duties that af­
fect banking. Almost daily, under other provisions of Federal law, we




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must pass upon applications for branches, mergers, membership in the Sys­
tem, voting permits requested by holding company affiliates, trust powers,
and what not* At the same time, we must see to it that member banks are
carefully examined and that appropriate supervisory measures are taken to
transform "problem banks'* into good ones*
In addition, the Federal Reserve System has even more fundamental
responsibilities: in the field of credit and monetary policy. It must
ever be alert to changing economic conditions and be prepared to determine
when and how to exercise the tools of credit regulation - reserve require­
ments, discount rates, and open market operations - in order to aid in the
maintenance of a stable and growing national economy. These are grave re­
sponsibilities and the Federal Reserve System must and does take them very
seriously.
You will understand, therefore, why the Board has moved with de­
liberation in carrying out the new duties superimposed by the Bank Holding
Company Act upon the many other fmctions already entrusted to it ty Con­
gress. Several months elapsed after the enactment of the Act before we
adopted Regulation Y, even though that regulation is largely concerned
with the procedures to be followed by holding companies in filing appli­
cations. Similarly, standard forms for use under the Act - the registra­
tion statement and application forms - were adopted only after weeks of
careful study and after they had been published in the Federal Register
with an invitation for comments and suggestions from all interested per­
sons. Because of the time consumed by our deliberation, and in the in­
terests of fairness, we extended the registration date for all holding
companies until after the first of the year.
By now you will have noticed that I have not attempted to explain
in detail the Holding Company Act, or to discuss all its technicalities,
or to analyse closely its underlying philosophy. What I have attempted to
do is to give you, in a few words, some idea of the task which the Board
of Governors faces in carrying out its responsibilities under the new law,
and to solicit your aid and cooperation. The enactment of the statute,
by itself, is by no means a solution of the "holding company problem"j as
a famous Speaker of the House of Representatives said: "One of the great­
est delusions in the world is the hope that its evils can be cured by leg­
islation. "
In its administration of the statute, the Board will undoubtedly
make mistakes, for it is not composed of supermen - a fact of which all
of you are only too well aware. Its judgments will not always be perfect.
Its decisions will not always be popular; those that independent bankers
like may not be relished by holding companies, and those which they like
may not be popular among you. But, fortunately, the Board of Governors
is not seeking popularity; it is seeking only to carry out its functions
under this statute in accordance with the will of Congress. In so doing,
it will welcome your constructive criticism; and I hope that you will




- 7 maintain a close interest in this subject and feel free at all times
to give us your comments and suggestions, as many of you have done in
the past. There may be occasions when your suggestions will not be
followed - perhaps because the Board will have information not available
to you - but that should not preclude you from being critical of our ac­
tions; or even from praising us, if you must, when our decisions seem
praiseworthy!
Remember that we are working in a new field and under a statute
which admittedly contains many inperfections. Within two years the
Board is required to report to Congress regarding ary obstacles en­
countered in the administration of the statute and t o recommend amend­
ments. We invite your help in seeking to improve and perfect the stat­
ute so that its objectives may be accomplished in absolute fairness to
all concerned and in the best interests of both sound banking and free
enterprise in the banking field. Only with such help can the Federal
Reserve System continue to discharge its responsibilities effectively
and in accordance with the principle enunciated by Henry Clay: "Govern­
ment is a trust, and the officers of the Government are trustees; and
both the trust and trustees are created for the benefit of the people."
And to me, that means all of the people, not any one group - no matter
how numerous or how powerful.