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Discussion of Evans and Honkapohja,
“Robust Learning Stability.”
James Bullard
President and CEO
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis1

28 May 2008
Frontiers in Monetary Theory and Policy—IMES, BOJ

1 Views expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect official positions of the FOMC or the
Federal Reserve System.

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Learning and monetary policy
Rational expectations is a cornerstone of modern
macroeconomic theory.

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Learning and monetary policy
Rational expectations is a cornerstone of modern
macroeconomic theory.
Rational expectations equilibrium is at the heart of the
learning literature.

Why worry

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Learning and monetary policy
Rational expectations is a cornerstone of modern
macroeconomic theory.
Rational expectations equilibrium is at the heart of the
learning literature.
But rational expectations is not a practical assumption.

Why worry

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Learning and monetary policy
Rational expectations is a cornerstone of modern
macroeconomic theory.
Rational expectations equilibrium is at the heart of the
learning literature.
But rational expectations is not a practical assumption.
Actual private sector expectations are unlikely to be
precisely consistent with REE.

Why worry

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Learning and monetary policy
Rational expectations is a cornerstone of modern
macroeconomic theory.
Rational expectations equilibrium is at the heart of the
learning literature.
But rational expectations is not a practical assumption.
Actual private sector expectations are unlikely to be
precisely consistent with REE.
That is still all right ...

Why worry

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Unstable is not optimal

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Learning and monetary policy
Rational expectations is a cornerstone of modern
macroeconomic theory.
Rational expectations equilibrium is at the heart of the
learning literature.
But rational expectations is not a practical assumption.
Actual private sector expectations are unlikely to be
precisely consistent with REE.
That is still all right ...
... so long as small expectational deviations from RE
dissipate, instead of accumulating.

Why worry

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Learning and monetary policy
Rational expectations is a cornerstone of modern
macroeconomic theory.
Rational expectations equilibrium is at the heart of the
learning literature.
But rational expectations is not a practical assumption.
Actual private sector expectations are unlikely to be
precisely consistent with REE.
That is still all right ...
... so long as small expectational deviations from RE
dissipate, instead of accumulating.

That condition is known as expectational stability.

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What the literature has shown
REE may or may not be expectationally stable in New
Keynesian models.

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What the literature has shown
REE may or may not be expectationally stable in New
Keynesian models.
In the simplest New Keynesian model, the Taylor Principle
is associated with E-stability.

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What the literature has shown
REE may or may not be expectationally stable in New
Keynesian models.
In the simplest New Keynesian model, the Taylor Principle
is associated with E-stability.
Failure of the Taylor Principle is associated with
expectational instability.

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What the literature has shown
REE may or may not be expectationally stable in New
Keynesian models.
In the simplest New Keynesian model, the Taylor Principle
is associated with E-stability.
Failure of the Taylor Principle is associated with
expectational instability.

That result assumes

Main ideas

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What the literature has shown
REE may or may not be expectationally stable in New
Keynesian models.
In the simplest New Keynesian model, the Taylor Principle
is associated with E-stability.
Failure of the Taylor Principle is associated with
expectational instability.

That result assumes
contemporaneous data specification of the policy rule.

Main ideas

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What the literature has shown
REE may or may not be expectationally stable in New
Keynesian models.
In the simplest New Keynesian model, the Taylor Principle
is associated with E-stability.
Failure of the Taylor Principle is associated with
expectational instability.

That result assumes
contemporaneous data specification of the policy rule.
decreasing gain in the learning rule.

Main ideas

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What the literature has shown
REE may or may not be expectationally stable in New
Keynesian models.
In the simplest New Keynesian model, the Taylor Principle
is associated with E-stability.
Failure of the Taylor Principle is associated with
expectational instability.

That result assumes
contemporaneous data specification of the policy rule.
decreasing gain in the learning rule.

Comforting.

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Instrument rules plus various forms of “optimal” policy.

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Instrument rules plus various forms of “optimal” policy.
Replace decreasing gain with constant gain.

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What the authors do

Instrument rules plus various forms of “optimal” policy.
Replace decreasing gain with constant gain.
Agents are trying to robustly track the changing
environment in which they operate.

Why worry

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What the authors do

Instrument rules plus various forms of “optimal” policy.
Replace decreasing gain with constant gain.
Agents are trying to robustly track the changing
environment in which they operate.

Concentrate on operational rules in the sense of McCallum.

Main ideas

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What the authors do

Instrument rules plus various forms of “optimal” policy.
Replace decreasing gain with constant gain.
Agents are trying to robustly track the changing
environment in which they operate.

Concentrate on operational rules in the sense of McCallum.
Keep policymaker information in line with reality.

Main ideas

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Unstable is not optimal

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What the authors do

Instrument rules plus various forms of “optimal” policy.
Replace decreasing gain with constant gain.
Agents are trying to robustly track the changing
environment in which they operate.

Concentrate on operational rules in the sense of McCallum.
Keep policymaker information in line with reality.

In particular, contemporaneous values of output and
inflation are not known when policy decisions are made.

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Main findings

There are many recommended good or “optimal” policies
for this model ...

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Main findings

There are many recommended good or “optimal” policies
for this model ...
... but most produce expectational instability in this setting.

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Main findings

There are many recommended good or “optimal” policies
for this model ...
... but most produce expectational instability in this setting.

Policymakers following these recommended approaches in
this environment would be surprised to find that the
economy does not coordinate on the intended equilibrium.

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Main findings

There are many recommended good or “optimal” policies
for this model ...
... but most produce expectational instability in this setting.

Policymakers following these recommended approaches in
this environment would be surprised to find that the
economy does not coordinate on the intended equilibrium.
To obtain expectational stability, use the
expectations-based rules of Evans-Honkapohja (2003,
2006).

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How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.

Why worry

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How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.
The actual learning dynamics would only be observed in
an unstable situtation.

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How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.
The actual learning dynamics would only be observed in
an unstable situtation.
Otherwise convergence occurs.

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How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.
The actual learning dynamics would only be observed in
an unstable situtation.
Otherwise convergence occurs.
We are talking about locally to the REE.

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How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.
The actual learning dynamics would only be observed in
an unstable situtation.
Otherwise convergence occurs.
We are talking about locally to the REE.
If policy is executed correctly ...

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How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.
The actual learning dynamics would only be observed in
an unstable situtation.
Otherwise convergence occurs.
We are talking about locally to the REE.
If policy is executed correctly ...
... observers would see only the REE values of key macro
variables.

Main ideas

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Unstable is not optimal

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Why worry

How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.
The actual learning dynamics would only be observed in
an unstable situtation.
Otherwise convergence occurs.
We are talking about locally to the REE.
If policy is executed correctly ...
... observers would see only the REE values of key macro
variables.
Learning would appear to be unimportant, even though it
is enforcing the REE.

Main ideas

What the authors do

Interpretations

Unstable is not optimal

Other analyses

Why worry

How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.
The actual learning dynamics would only be observed in
an unstable situtation.
Otherwise convergence occurs.
We are talking about locally to the REE.
If policy is executed correctly ...
... observers would see only the REE values of key macro
variables.
Learning would appear to be unimportant, even though it
is enforcing the REE.

One analogy: off-equilibrium play in games.

Main ideas

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Unstable is not optimal

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Why worry

How to think about E-stability
Stability is not a common mode of analysis in
macroeconomics and monetary policy.
The actual learning dynamics would only be observed in
an unstable situtation.
Otherwise convergence occurs.
We are talking about locally to the REE.
If policy is executed correctly ...
... observers would see only the REE values of key macro
variables.
Learning would appear to be unimportant, even though it
is enforcing the REE.

One analogy: off-equilibrium play in games.
Another analogy: default punishment in models with
endogenous debt constraints.

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Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”

Why worry

Main ideas

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Unstable is not optimal

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Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”
Indeed, we would not expect to see a lot of these cases ...

Why worry

Main ideas

What the authors do

Interpretations

Unstable is not optimal

Other analyses

Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”
Indeed, we would not expect to see a lot of these cases ...
... policymakers would have to abandon their policies.

Why worry

Main ideas

What the authors do

Interpretations

Unstable is not optimal

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Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”
Indeed, we would not expect to see a lot of these cases ...
... policymakers would have to abandon their policies.
But consider Figure 2 in the paper.

Why worry

Main ideas

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Unstable is not optimal

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Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”
Indeed, we would not expect to see a lot of these cases ...
... policymakers would have to abandon their policies.
But consider Figure 2 in the paper.
Inflation and the output gap behave as if the REE has been
attained for many periods.

Main ideas

What the authors do

Interpretations

Unstable is not optimal

Other analyses

Why worry

Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”
Indeed, we would not expect to see a lot of these cases ...
... policymakers would have to abandon their policies.
But consider Figure 2 in the paper.
Inflation and the output gap behave as if the REE has been
attained for many periods.
But eventually, expectational errors accumulate and drive
the economy away from the targeted equilibrium.

Main ideas

What the authors do

Interpretations

Unstable is not optimal

Other analyses

Why worry

Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”
Indeed, we would not expect to see a lot of these cases ...
... policymakers would have to abandon their policies.
But consider Figure 2 in the paper.
Inflation and the output gap behave as if the REE has been
attained for many periods.
But eventually, expectational errors accumulate and drive
the economy away from the targeted equilibrium.
Does it happen?

Main ideas

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Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”
Indeed, we would not expect to see a lot of these cases ...
... policymakers would have to abandon their policies.
But consider Figure 2 in the paper.
Inflation and the output gap behave as if the REE has been
attained for many periods.
But eventually, expectational errors accumulate and drive
the economy away from the targeted equilibrium.
Does it happen?
Consider the breakdown of Bretton Woods.

Main ideas

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Unstable is not optimal

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Why worry

Expectational instability
Some might worry that the unstable case is “not really
observed.”
Indeed, we would not expect to see a lot of these cases ...
... policymakers would have to abandon their policies.
But consider Figure 2 in the paper.
Inflation and the output gap behave as if the REE has been
attained for many periods.
But eventually, expectational errors accumulate and drive
the economy away from the targeted equilibrium.
Does it happen?
Consider the breakdown of Bretton Woods.
And maybe we should worry about Sweden, as we will see
below.

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Taylor-type rules

Some potential for instability in the calibrated case.

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Taylor-type rules

Some potential for instability in the calibrated case.
Taylor rule fairs better than some other recommended
rules studied later in the paper.

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Taylor-type rules

Some potential for instability in the calibrated case.
Taylor rule fairs better than some other recommended
rules studied later in the paper.
Instability requires the combination of operational rules
with constant gain learning.

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Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.

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Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.
It represents optimal policy under discretion if the
policymaker has a preference for interest rate smoothing.

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Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.
It represents optimal policy under discretion if the
policymaker has a preference for interest rate smoothing.
Results for commitment case similar.

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Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.
It represents optimal policy under discretion if the
policymaker has a preference for interest rate smoothing.
Results for commitment case similar.

The rule is
it =

ϕλ
ϕαx
πt +
xt .
αi
αi

(1)

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Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.
It represents optimal policy under discretion if the
policymaker has a preference for interest rate smoothing.
Results for commitment case similar.

The rule is
it =

ϕλ
ϕαx
πt +
xt .
αi
αi

Produces determinacy if αi sufficiently large.

(1)

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Why worry

Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.
It represents optimal policy under discretion if the
policymaker has a preference for interest rate smoothing.
Results for commitment case similar.

The rule is
it =

ϕλ
ϕαx
πt +
xt .
αi
αi

Produces determinacy if αi sufficiently large.
Produces expectational instability if αi sufficiently small.

(1)

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Unstable is not optimal

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Why worry

Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.
It represents optimal policy under discretion if the
policymaker has a preference for interest rate smoothing.
Results for commitment case similar.

The rule is
it =

ϕλ
ϕαx
πt +
xt .
αi
αi

Produces determinacy if αi sufficiently large.
Produces expectational instability if αi sufficiently small.
Similar results for Duffy/Xiao under commitment.

(1)

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Unstable is not optimal

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Why worry

Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.
It represents optimal policy under discretion if the
policymaker has a preference for interest rate smoothing.
Results for commitment case similar.

The rule is
it =

ϕλ
ϕαx
πt +
xt .
αi
αi

Produces determinacy if αi sufficiently large.
Produces expectational instability if αi sufficiently small.
Similar results for Duffy/Xiao under commitment.
Worrisome.

(1)

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Why worry

Duffy and Xiao
The Duffy/Xiao rule is a Taylor-type rule.
It represents optimal policy under discretion if the
policymaker has a preference for interest rate smoothing.
Results for commitment case similar.

The rule is
it =

ϕλ
ϕαx
πt +
xt .
αi
αi

Produces determinacy if αi sufficiently large.
Produces expectational instability if αi sufficiently small.
Similar results for Duffy/Xiao under commitment.
Worrisome.
The expectations-based approach of Evans and
Honkapohja solves this problem and provides robust
expectational stability.

(1)

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Commitment

No interest rate smoothing, timeless perspective, goal is to
implement the FOC.

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Commitment

No interest rate smoothing, timeless perspective, goal is to
implement the FOC.
Svensson and Woodford (2005) recommended rule
equation (18) in the paper.

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Commitment

No interest rate smoothing, timeless perspective, goal is to
implement the FOC.
Svensson and Woodford (2005) recommended rule
equation (18) in the paper.
Operational versions can be associated with instability
under learning for reasonable gain parameters.

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Commitment

No interest rate smoothing, timeless perspective, goal is to
implement the FOC.
Svensson and Woodford (2005) recommended rule
equation (18) in the paper.
Operational versions can be associated with instability
under learning for reasonable gain parameters.
Worrisome for Sweden? Figure 2?

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Commitment

No interest rate smoothing, timeless perspective, goal is to
implement the FOC.
Svensson and Woodford (2005) recommended rule
equation (18) in the paper.
Operational versions can be associated with instability
under learning for reasonable gain parameters.
Worrisome for Sweden? Figure 2?
There is nothing optimal about instability.

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Woodford NRE

Woodford (2008) has considered an alternative approach to
checking the robustness of policy to the possibility that
expectations may not be fully rational.

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Woodford NRE

Woodford (2008) has considered an alternative approach to
checking the robustness of policy to the possibility that
expectations may not be fully rational.
Avoids committing to a particular recursive algorithm to
describe learning.

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Woodford NRE

Woodford (2008) has considered an alternative approach to
checking the robustness of policy to the possibility that
expectations may not be fully rational.
Avoids committing to a particular recursive algorithm to
describe learning.
But, expectational stability still plays a role in that analysis.

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Bayesian approaches

Many feel that recursive learning should be Bayesian.

Why worry

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Bayesian approaches

Many feel that recursive learning should be Bayesian.
Bullard and Suda (2008).

Why worry

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Bayesian approaches

Many feel that recursive learning should be Bayesian.
Bullard and Suda (2008).
Standard recursive learning exercise, but replace classical
econometricians with Bayesian econometricians.

Main ideas

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Why worry

Bayesian approaches

Many feel that recursive learning should be Bayesian.
Bullard and Suda (2008).
Standard recursive learning exercise, but replace classical
econometricians with Bayesian econometricians.
Main results still hold:

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Bayesian approaches

Many feel that recursive learning should be Bayesian.
Bullard and Suda (2008).
Standard recursive learning exercise, but replace classical
econometricians with Bayesian econometricians.
Main results still hold:
“extra” term in the actual law of motion.

Main ideas

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Unstable is not optimal

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Why worry

Bayesian approaches

Many feel that recursive learning should be Bayesian.
Bullard and Suda (2008).
Standard recursive learning exercise, but replace classical
econometricians with Bayesian econometricians.
Main results still hold:
“extra” term in the actual law of motion.
expectational stability conditions unchanged.

Main ideas

What the authors do

Interpretations

Unstable is not optimal

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Why worry

Bayesian approaches

Many feel that recursive learning should be Bayesian.
Bullard and Suda (2008).
Standard recursive learning exercise, but replace classical
econometricians with Bayesian econometricians.
Main results still hold:
“extra” term in the actual law of motion.
expectational stability conditions unchanged.

Stability still an issue.

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Responding to expectations

Policymakers seem to do this at times ...

Why worry

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Responding to expectations

Policymakers seem to do this at times ...
but it is not that clear how to map this idea into reality.

Why worry

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Responding to expectations

Policymakers seem to do this at times ...
but it is not that clear how to map this idea into reality.

Measurement issues.

Why worry

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Responding to expectations

Policymakers seem to do this at times ...
but it is not that clear how to map this idea into reality.

Measurement issues.
Potential games.

Why worry

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Final thoughts

Very nice paper in a very nice conference.

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Final thoughts

Very nice paper in a very nice conference.
Thanks to the Bank of Japan for inviting me to participate.

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Final thoughts

Very nice paper in a very nice conference.
Thanks to the Bank of Japan for inviting me to participate.
I appreciate the attention to stability issues, which I think
are insufficiently analyzed in macroeconomics.

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Final thoughts

Very nice paper in a very nice conference.
Thanks to the Bank of Japan for inviting me to participate.
I appreciate the attention to stability issues, which I think
are insufficiently analyzed in macroeconomics.
Instability can produce the “big ticket losses” that
policymakers really worry about.