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For Ki:lease on Do 1ivc.rv
(Approxirr.a tely 12 :00 noon
Thurediiy, Mcy 20, 1965)




THE GREAT LIQUIDITY DEBATE

Rer.-arks by J. Deuev Daane
iVcmber, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
at the Luncheon Meeting of the
Joint Beards of Directors
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago & Detroit Branch
Do Iroi t, Mich i¿;an
on Thursday, tfav 20, 1965

Remarks by Governor J. Dewey Daane
Member, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
at the Luncheon Meeting of the
Joint Boards of Directors
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago & Detroit Branch
Detroit, Michigan - Thursday, May 20, 1965

THE GREAT LIQUIDITY DEBATE
Introduction
When I was teaching Money and Banking seme years ago at the University
of Richmond Evening School, I had a rather motley group of students in­
cluding one middle-aged woman claiming to be some kin to Senator Harry
Byrd,

After class one evening during which I had laboriously explained

how the multiple expansion in bank deposits worked, she came to me and,
after remarking on the fact that I was the Monetary Economist at the
Richmond Reserve Bank, asked me to explain what happened to her friend's
savings, totaling some $10 ,000, that had been lost in a bank failure in
Richmond in the early 1930s.

I explained to her that the contraction

of bank deposits operated just like the expansion and that with banks
liquidating assets as in the f30s, the money supply (bank deposits)
contracted.

Her reply to me was, "Yes, Dr, Daane, I understand all of

that but what come of that money?"

When we were talking about a possible

topic for my remarks to you today some of my colleagues suggested, "What
Come of that Gold?" instead of the less illuminating title, "The Great
Liquidity Debate",

But international liquidity is not really unrelated

to the more exciting story now unfolding with respect to the U. S. balance
of payments position, program, and prospects, and also not unrelated to
the current question of the £ftjL<J/.outflows which we have been experiencing.
For internationa
resources which




thing more nor less than all the
muster to finance balance of

~ 2 payments d e f i c i t s ,

And as long as the U. S. continues to experience

balance of payments deficits, we can expect to have some geld losses
as part of the liquidity which we use in paying for these deficits.
Simply stated, the magnitude of those gold losses depends on whether
or not the surplus countries such as France, etc., want gold in
settlement to add to their own liquidity in that form.
In turn, one of the questions frequently put to me is whether
new sources of international liquidity might not make it possible for
the United States or for other countries to ignore the discipline of
the balance of payments*
clarifying.

This is a misconception which I think needs

No likely amount of international liquidity or money

magic can solve, or enable indefinite postponement of efforts to solve,
a chronic balance of payments problem.

Yet, the recent calls from abroad

for reform of the international monetary system, and for some riew form
of reserve asset to provide international liquidity, stem in part from
a suspicion, often voiced, that the United States has taken undue
advantage of its position as a reserve currency country to finance its
deficit with unwanted dollars and, consequently, has been able to avoid
the harsher measures that a country in deficit presumably should be
taking-~particularly measures in the monetary sphere.

The azmwer, of

course, to the charge lies in the continous and increasingly comprehensive
efforts made to contain the U, S. balance of payments deficit, beginning
in February 1961, accelerated in mid-1963, and broadened in February
of 1965--efforts which have not ignored the monetary area.

In fact

the latest measures have a very direct and conclusive impact on bank
lending abroad.




- 3 The focal point for my remarks today, however, is not the U, S,
balance of payments but rather what I have chosen to call flThe Great
Liquidity Debate'1.

Thus, in the short time we have this noon I would

like to talk with you about three questions--What is the present inter­
national liquidity debate all about?

Where is it taking place?

What of

the future, and specifically, does it represent a break in the inter­
national financial cooperation that has been the hallmark of the post­
war international monetary system?

Forums for discussion of liquidity
Taking the easiest question, the "where" question, first, there
have been various forums in which international liquidity has been
either consistently in the center o£ the stage or always and ever­
present in the wings.

First, and very appropriately, it has occupied

much attention in the International Monetary Fund, and that attention
is reflected in the Fund's last Annual Report issued this past August,
Second, the whole matter of international liquidity, and the role of
gold and the dollar in supplying that liquidity, have been the subject
of intensive studies and debate in the so-called Group of Ten, or
their Deputies, representing the ten leading industrial countries
which agreed in the fall of 1961 in their General Arrangements to
Borrow to supplement the resources of the IMF,
Although the debate broke more into the open with the speeches
over the past 6 months or so by General de Gaulle and French Finance
Minister Giscard d*Estaing, the main issues in the debate have been
with us right along in our studies in The Ten, beginning in the fall
of 1963.




At that time the Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors

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of the Group of Ten called for a study of the functioning of the inter­
national payments system and "its probable future needs for liquidity/1
As a result, the Deputies of the Group of Ten, with each country
generally represented by a senior treasury and central bank official,
met almost monthly during the year between the International Bank and
Monetary Fund annual meetings in the fall of 1963 and their Tokyo meet­
ings last fall#

The findings of their study were incorporated in the

Ministerial Statement and Deputies Annex of the Group of Ten issued
last fall prior to the Bank-Fund meetings.
Another forum not specifically directed toward liquidity, but
inevitably involved in the debate, is Working Party-3 of the Economic
Policy Committee of the OECD (Organization for Economic Cooperation
and Development).

The OECD* which is a successor to the former OEEC

originally designed to advise on the distribution of Marshall Plan
aid, consists of some 21 countries, including all of the Western
European countries, plus the United States, Canada, and, more recently,
Japan.

The OECD has as one of its plenary committees an Economic

Policy Committee which provides for regular review of current economic
trends in the member countries, study of their changing economic
problems, and consultation on appropriate courses of action.

Its meet­

ings, which usually take place at intervals of three or four months,
enable the senior officers responsible for advising upon economic
policy in their respective countries to exchange ideas, forecasts,
suggestions and criticisms.

This Economic Policy Committee, in turn,

has a number of working sub-groups and Working Party-3, on the balance
of payments, is undoubtedly the most notable of these.




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Working Party-3, which meets normally in Paris about every six
weeks, was established in early 1961 in large part as a reflection
of a new initiative on the part of the United States in the field of
international monetary cooperation.

Like the Deputies of the Ten

group, and with membership largely overlapping, it consists of senior
officials of central banks and Ministries of Finance in those ten or
eleven countries whose actions have the greatest influence on inter­
national payments.

Its task is to analyze the effect on international

payments of monetary, fiscal and other policy measures in the member
countries, and to hold consultations on policy measures, both national
and international, as they relate to international payments equilib­
rium and to the financing of payments imbalances--and specifically,
to provide for ’’multilateral surveillance” of the latter.

Thus, al­

though their attention is primarily directed toward payments positions,
international liquidity is of vital concern to Working Party-3.
Finally, the last, but by no means the least, of the several
forums are the meetings of the central bankers in Basle, Switzerland,
almost every month, under the aegis of The Bank for International
Settlements.

Again, while these meetings provide for frank and inti­

mate discussions among the western world*s leading central bankers
of a wide range of problems of mutual interest, international liqui­
dity inevitably cannot be readily detached from their deliberations
and discussions.
I have discussed these forums with you at some length because
they are vital not only to the liquidity debate but to the inter­
national financial cooperation which we, along with other countries,




- 6 have been experiencing and benefiting from in recent years.

For the

problem of international economic cooperation is, to a very signifi­
cant extent, a problem of communication:

for each country, one of

giving the representatives of other countries a better understanding
of its problems and the reasons for its policies and, in turn, of
gaining better understanding of their problems.

Recently I had the

privilege of hearing Professor Chandler of Princeton University dis­
cuss his study of the working of the gold exchange standard in the
inter-war period between World War I and World War II; he stressed
the conclusion from his study that a lack of communication had been
a major weakness leading to the breakdown of that system.

Thus, the

development of communication and understanding in various forums has
been, in my judgment, a major achievement in the building and
strengthening of our world payments system.

The issues in the liquidity debate
Turning to the "what" of the international liquidity debate,
from the outset of our studies the areas of substantive agreement
and difference have been apparent.
First, as to the areas of agreement--or what the liquidity debate
is not about--it was clearly recognized and reiterated by the Group
of Ten that fixed exchange rates and the present established price
of gold had proved their value as a foundation on which to build for
the future.
Second, the debate is not about the present adequacy of liqui­
dity— the ten countries agreed in a judgment that international
liquidity, defined as the entire spectrum.of resources available for




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financing payments imbalances, and taking into account a recommended
and prospective increase in IMF quotas, is fully adequate for the
present and near-term future*

To reinforce this the Group of Ten

Report called for a moderate general over-all increase in Fund
quotas, plus selective increases for those countries whose quotas
are clearly out of line.

As you know, these increases are already

in process of implementation and will result in a $5 billion in­
crease in IMF resources--from $16 billion at present to around
$21 billion.

This will significantly increase the Fundfs resources

in usable currencies which have fallen to relatively low levels.

It

will place the Fund in a stronger position to cope with expanded
credit needs associated both with the substantial enlargement of
the world economy that has taken place since the last general in­
crease in quotas in 1959, and with the larger needs of a convertible
currency world,
A third area in which there was, and is, general agreement is
that the need for liquidity depends on the speed and efficiency with
which countries reduce or eliminate imbalances, either surpluses or
deficits, in their balance of payments positions.

Thus, there is no

debate about the need to examine this so-called adjustment process
with a view toward possible improvement; it is widely recognized,
and was emphasized in the Group of Ten Report, that there is a close,
two-way connection between this adjustment process and the amount of
international liquidity needed*

The trick, of course, is to insure

that the international financial system can and will provide indi­
vidual countries with enough liquidity to facilitate an orderly




- 8 process of adjustment, without recourse to undesirable inflationary
or deflationary actions or "beggar-my-neighbor" policies, but not so
much as to enable countries to ignore the need for internal adjust­
ments to restore equilibrium.
Recognizing these inter-connections, the Group of Ten report
recommended that Working Party-3 of OECD undertake a study of the
process of adjustment involved in correcting imbalances in inter­
national payments, with a view to determining appropriate policies
for avoiding or minimizing such imbalances.

This review is already

under way in a special study group under the aegis of Working Party-3,
looking at such questions as the balance of payments objectives of
individual countries, the differing policy problems presented by
different kinds of balance of payments situations, and the various
policy instruments and measures related to the process of adjustment.
Turning to the disagreements, what is the liquidity debate really
all about?

First, the debate began by revolving around the question

of the kind of liquidity needed as we looked ahead to the future
functioning of the payments system.

There was a division in emphasis

at the outset in appraising future liquidity needs, specifically as
to whether what might be needed primarily x^as an increase in so-called
’’owned reserves,” now mainly gold and foreign exchange holdings, or
in credit facilities.

In a sense, this was the early core of the

debate for it was the French view, and to a lesser extent perhaps
that of the Dutch and some

"

reserve assets should no lo

©tjéajby continued extension

of credit to reserve curren

1^/chat further expansion of




UBRAFtt

ropean countries, that

- 9 reserve currency holdings should not be the source of future liqui­
dity, and that therefore some new form of reserve asset x^as needed
and should be created to supplement gold.

The United States* viex*

has fully agreed that gold might not be enough to do the trick, and
that dollars could not be expected to furnish liquidity in the same
way as they did in recent years while we were in payments deficit.
But it was our belief that under the foreseeable circumstances it
was still important to have adequate credit facilities to deal x^ith
the fluctuations that undoubtedly will continue to affect the balance
of payments of major countries.

Thus, the United States welcomed

the useful increase in Fund quotas now being implemented.

In addition,

drawings on the Fund usually result in the addition of reserve assets
for the country whose currency is drawn since they give that country
a readily usable gold tranche claim on the Fund.

Similarly, bilateral

credit facilities, such as Federal Reserve swaps, represent addi­
tions to reserves as long as they are utilized and outstanding.
But perhaps even more could be done in the development of multi­
lateral credit facilities, especially since the advent of the multi­
lateral surveillance process now carried out in Working Party-3.
From the outset of the liquidity studies there also has been a
willingness to explore the question of the form and mechanism of
creating reserve assets to supplement gold and reserve currencies
in supplying possible future needs if and when there is a clearly
felt need for a new method of reserve creation.

The United States

joined, without prejudgment or commitment, in the setting up by the
Group of Ten of a so-called "Study Group on the Creation of Reserve
Assets" to make a study of the various alternatives; this study group




- 10 in which the United States is participating is in process and continu­
ing.

Among the alternatives, of course, is the proposal for a

Collective Reserve Unit (CRU)*

Another major type of proposal is

the further development of gold tranche or similar claims on the
International Monetary Fund as an international reserve asset, and
the deliberate creation of such assets for reserve purposes rather
than as a by-product of normal drawings*
At this stage there seems to be little point in reiterating the
various objections to the CRU scheme.

A major concern on our part

has to do with its gold link and possible contractive impact on
liquidity as The Ten, and non-Ten countries also, would have a new
incentive to convert other reserve assets into gold, and its
generally restrictive approach tox^ard accommodating expanding world
needs.

It also has seemed more appropriate for reserve asset

creation to be kept within the familiar International Monetary
Fund framework.

Possible basic questions re reserve asset creation
Rather than try to argue either side of the debate over partic­
ular proposals for reserve creation, however, it might be more useful
to try to suggest a few of the basic questions, as I see them, that
may prove to be important in any search to find the right method of
reserve creation to supplement the existing system*
(1)

A first question is that of the adaptability of the

reserve asset creation process to the complex world in which we live
and the differing needs of different countries.




- 11 We live in a world of diversity.

Even among the rela­

tively homogeneous Group of Ten nations, there are marked differences
in the size of individual countries, the absolute magnitude of their
foreign transactions, and the proportion of these to the domestic
economy, their economic objectives, the condition of their domestic
economies at any particular time, their economic institutions, the
refinement of their financial structures.
The existence of such differences is a fact wh.Ach
the process of liquidity creation should recognize and accommodate.
Rigid methods should be avoided and new approaches should be capable
of adaptation to differences among countries at any given time and
to the evolution of monetary needs over time.
(2)

A second question is that of the closeness of the

relationship of any new asset to gold, either in its creation or in
its use.

Both in domestic and international finance, the historical

tendency has been toward the increasing use of substitutes for gold.
It would appear to be a retrograde step to establish a new form of
international money rigidly linked to gold, and usable only in con­
junction with gold.
In this connection, it is useful to distinguish be­
tween the short-run problem of achieving acceptance for a new reserve
asset and the longer run problems that arise when it has become
accepted.

Some gold-linked proposals have an appeal because such a

link assures original acceptability.
is purchased at a cost:

But such initial acceptability

as long as the asset can be used only with

gold, a significant portion of the new assets will in fact be







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holdings.
In any event, once a reserve asset has become
generally accepted, a loss of reserve assets in the form of the
generally-accepted new unit has just as much disciplinary effect
on the deficit country as a loss of gold.
(3)

A third and important question is whether a new

reserve asset would be detrimental to existing liquidity.

A very

high percentage of existing liquidity represents reserve currency
holdings, and the attitudes of their holders are a vital concern
in constructing an acceptable reserve asset that would add to, and
not subtract from, present liquidity.
(4)

A fourth question is whether in creating new inter­

national reserve assets the market function of the dollar is suffi­
ciently recognized.

Apart from its role as a store of value, the

dollar is the major vehicle currency in the world.

All countries,

even if they hold few dollars as permanent reserves, use dollars in
exchange operations and therefore need working balances in dollars.
By the same token, surpluses and deficits show up initially as
accumulations or reductions in dollar holdings.
(5)

Fifth, there is the question of countries to be

included in any future scheme for reserve creation.

It has been

suggested that such countries presumably should be expected to be
neither persistently in deficit nor persistently in surplus.

That

is to say, reserve creation should not be looked upon as a way of
financing persistent surpluses and deficits, though any increase in




- 13 reserves is likely to have the effect of making the financing of
temporary deficits and surpluses somewhat easier.

On the other hand,

there is much to be said for an open system; that is, for including
in the reserve-creating process as many countries as x^ould qualify,
provided they meet reasonable conditions, and for leaving member­
ship open to other countries that might qualify in the future.
(6)

Sixth, and finally, there is the question as to how

decisions are made as to reserve creation.

The procedure for making

decisions could have a great deal of effect on the way the reserve
creation process operates, and particularly, on its adaptability.
One alternative would be to adopt the Fund principle of weighted
voting; another would be to require unanimity.

A unanimity pro­

vision, enabling any member to veto action desired by the rest of
the group, would obviously represent a restrictive approach and, as
pointed out recently by Under Secretary Deming, could hardly lead
to any meaningful internationalized creation of liquidity.

The continuance of international financial cooperation
These observations lead me to my final question as to the
future, and specifically as to the continuance of international
financial cooperation.

As I have indicated, the liquidity studies

will be going forward, as they are now, under the aegis of the
Group of Ten.

My belief is that we will be wrestling with these

issues throughout the summer, and beyond, in the various forums
I have described, and specifically in the meetings of the Deputies
of the Group of Ten.

Despite the obvious problems, international

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financial cooperation is continuing in an effort to solve them.
One dramatic illustration is the fact that shortly after the famous
de Gaulle Statement, France agreed to join the other nations in
renewing the equally famous three billion dollar stabilization package
for the British.

And subsequently the French discount rate action,

although directed tox^ard and consistent with domestic aims, was a
further step helpful internationally.

Even more significant, however,

is the fact that international cooperation is taking place, and will
continue to do so, in the several forums which I have mentioned, not
only in the IMF and the Group of Ten and their Deputies, but also in
Working Party-3 of the OECD, and in the monthly meetings at Basle of
the central bankers.

Concluding comments
But in looking ahead I come full circle back to my point of
departure which was the link between all of these matters and the
clear need to right our balance of payments.

On this score I am

particularly impressed by the comments in a recent speech by one of
the world*s foremost non-U.S. monetary authorities.

In this speech

he stated flatly, nToo large deficits by the reserve currency
countries undermine confidence in the present international
monetary system.

Objective leadership by the United States in the

international monetary field will only be forthcoming after that
country is freed from direct balance of payments worries.11 I believe
that this is true and that until we have restored equilibrium in







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our balance of payments \*e cannot expect to exert fully the
leadership in the international monetary field that will be
necessary to produce constructive results and solutions to the
problem of international liquidity.