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For release on delivery
Tuesday, December 7, 1976




Regulation 0— Ten Years Later
Address by
J. Charles Partee
Member, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
30th Midyear Meeting
of the
National Association of Mutual Savings Banks
New York, New York
December 7, 1976

Regulation Q— Ten Years Later

In reviewing materials for my presentation before you today,
it occurred to me that this past September marked the tenth anniversary
of the extension of our present system of regulatory interest rate
ceilings to the deposits of all major types of savings institutions.
Since financial markets are quiet at the moment, and savings inflows
generally have been quite ample for an extended period, this seems a
good time to step back and take stock of how the savings institutions
have fared over these years.

More generally, we need to take the

opportunity for reviewing how the evolution of Regulation Q in the
last decade has affected the competitive position of the thrift industry.
In the fall of 1966, when Regulation Q-type ceilings were ex­
tended by law to savings and loan associations and mutual savings banks,
our country had experienced close to a full year of sharply rising
market interest rates, following several years of relatively low and
stable rates.

Commercial banks were even then competing directly with

alternative money market outlets for large deposit balances, so that
it had been necessary at the end of 1965 to raise rate ceilings on the
time deposit structure of these institutions.

Savings deposit rate

ceilings had not been changed, but the competition for'smaller savings
balances— both from the banks and the market— nevertheless intensified
greatly.

As a result, many of the savings institutions had suffered

losses of deposit funds during the spring and summer of 1966— an
experience for them that was unprecedented over the post-war period.




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The earning assets of thrift institutions at that time were
locked mainly into mortgage portfolios with low fixed yields, slow
turnover and thin secondary markets.

Without substantial amounts of

marketable short-term assets or a large borrowing capability, many
mutual savings banks and savings and loan associations were ill-equipped
to handle either heavy drains on their resources or to make new mortgages
unless they could continue to attract net inflows over time in savings
funds.

Indeed, many observers feared that these institutions could not

compete effectively in an environment of escalating interest rates, and
that some might not even be able to survive.

Thus, in an effort to

maintain orderly financial markets in general, and to encourage a
continued flow of funds into mortgage markets in particular, the
Congress authorized a more flexible rate setting authority for the
bank regulators and extended the system of deposit rate ceilings to
the thrift institutions as well.

From the outset, the ceiling rate

relationships established by the regulatory agencies were designed to
give thrifts an advantage over the more versatile commercial banks.
Interest rate ceilings on deposits have long been regarded
by most economists as

anticompetitive measures which amount to price-

fixing for depositary institutions.

But when the new system of rate

ceilings was authorized, the Congress believed that such protection
was essential to the short-run viability of the thrift industrynecessary at the time, though intended only as a temporary measure.
The Regulation Q-type structure was supposed to tide the thrift




-3institutions over until they could adapt in more fundamental ways to the
new regime of higher and potentially more volatile interest rates.

In

this spirit, both the initial legislation and the subsequent renewals
have been of short duration, never more than two years.

Hence, every

Congress since 1966 has reconsidered the question of continuing deposit
rate regulation in its present form, and the current authority, renewed
a year ago for 14 months, expires on March 1.
Under the protection of deposit rate ceilings, our thrift
institutions have weathered four episodes of exceptionally tight credit,
beginning with the conditions that led to the introduction of the
ceiling differentials back in 1966.

Each credit cycle has produced

higher peak market interest rates than the one before.

In 1966, for

example, we thought that a 5-3/8 per cent 3-month bill rate was high.
A little more than 3 years later, this same interest rate stood at
7-7/8 per cent, and in the summers of 1973 and 1974 it moved to 8^5/8
and 9 per cent respectively.

Over the past two years, however, short­

term interest rates have declined substantially, and the current bill
rate--at cround 4-1/2 per cent--is below all segments of the institutional
rate ceiling structure.
The decade from 1966 to 1976 was also characterized by higher
and more variable rates of inflation than the earlier postwar period.
During the early 1960's, the consumer price index had advanced by less
than 1-1/2 per cent per year.

With the higher public spending of the

Vietnam Wer period, the rate of inflation accelerated to an average




-4annual rate of about 4 per cent.

And, of course, we all remember

vividly the price explosion that erupted in 1973 and 1974, partly
as a result of food shortages and the oil cartel, the depreciation
of the dollar in foreign exchange markets and the ending of domestic
price controls.

Over those two years, consumer prices rose by

more than twenty per cent— the first experience for our nation, at
least in modern times, with double digit inflation.

The inflationary

expectations that accompanied our deteriorating price performance
were undoubtedly a major influence in bringing the successive waves
of higher and higher interest rates we experienced in the decade
through 1974.

Since then, both inflation and interest rates have

moderated considerably.

I am hopeful that this marks a basic change

in trend, though it is too early yet to say so with confidence.
With these observations on market interest rates and
inflation in mind, let us turn to a parallel examination of Regulation Q
developments over the same ten-year period.

Since the inception of the

new rate ceiling structure in 1966, thrift institutions and commercial
banks have been permitted to offer progressively higher rates of interest,
usually in a lagged and muted response to market developments.

This is

reflected to some extent in the maximum rates permitted on traditional
account forms, but more importantly by the introduction and develop­
ment of new account categories.

The ceiling on passbook deposits at

savings banks, for example, is only a little higher now than it was
in late 1966, while ceilings on shorter-term certificate




accounts

-5have been raised only by a percentage point or less.

But the introduction

of new account categories to include longer-term consumer CD's has been
the major means of increasing the rates payable on deposits.

As a

result of these new accounts, the highest interest rate available on
time deposits at savings banks has risen from 5 per cent on 6-month
money back in 1966 to 7-3/4 per cent on 6-year certificates beginning
in late 1974— a change that more closely parallels the movements in open
market rates over the 10-year period.
The evolution of the longer-term certificates deserves
considerable emphasis, because this not only has provided the key to
maintaining the competitive viability of the regulated institutions,
but has made possible also an important improvement in the deposit structure of
the thrift industry.

Ten years ago, the maximum interest rate that any

depositary institution could offer varied between 4 and 5-1/2 per cent,
depending on the type of institution and account.

But at that time,

virtually all deposits were subject to withdrawal within 6 months, and
the vast majority was held in passbook accounts offering immediate
access to the funds.
In 1970, the first effort to encourage lengthening the maturity
of deposits got underway as higher rate ceilings were introduced for
1- and 2-year certificates.

In a second major revision to Regulation Q,

2-1/2 and 4-year accounts with still higher ceilings were established
in 1973, a change which allowed thrifts to attract funds into the new
maturity categories at a time when open market rates were at all-timp
highs and passbook balances were declining.

In 1973, also, we all remember

the brief experiment with long-term, no ceiling certificates, which was




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cut short by excessive competition for funds among the various
institutions in the circumstances of the time.

And finally, there

was the introduction of 6-year certificates and Individual
Retirement Accounts in 1974.

These developments have had a major impact

on the maturity distribution of thrift institution liabilities.

Savings

banks now have more than 20 per cent of their deposits in accounts with
original maturities of 4 years or longer; at S&L‘
s, the proportion is
slightly above 30 per cent.

The resulting better match between assets

and liabilities of thrift institutions, I believe, has materially
improved their structural integrity.
Recognizing the increased ability of thrifts to compete with
commercial banks, as well as the need of all institutions to compete
with the rates available on market instruments, there has been a
narrowing over time in the differential between the rate ceilings on
deposits among the various types of institutions.

In 1966, ceiling

rates on passbooks were set initially 1 percentage point higher at
mutual savings banks and 3/4 point higher at savings and loan
associations, relative to commercial bank rates, reflecting the
distressed situation in which many of the thrifts found themselves.
By 1970, the mortgage portfolio yields of thrift institutions had
begun to respond to the higher interest rates on new mortgages
booked, and the newly established certificates were expected to help
materially in drawing interest-sensitive money.

Accordingly, the

differential on certificates was set at 1/4 per cent and the passbook




-7ceiling was narrowed to 1/2 per cent.

The differentials were narrowed

further in 1973— to 1/4 per cent on all deposit categories except for
1-year certificates— but it does not appear that thrift institutions
have been at a disadvantage in attracting funds, perhaps in part because
of the new powers gained in recent years.
in the

As evidence of the rough parity

. competitive situation, the growth rates in consumer-type

time and savings deposits at the two types of institutions have been
quite similar over the past three years, averaging 13.8 per cent, at
an annual rate, for the commercial banks and 13.4 per cent for the
thri ft insti tutions.
In recent years, moreover, various legislative changes and
industry innovations have added to the capability of thrifts to compete
for deposits.

On the asset side of the balance sheet, greater

diversification in investment opportunities has

reduced the dependence

of thrifts— and savings banks in particular— on long-term mortgages, the
yields on which adjust only sluggishly to changing market conditions.
I might note also that these mortgage portfolios, once a serious earnings
problem for thrifts, have become progressively less disadvantageous
as more and more of the outstanding mortgages have come to reflect the
higher interest rates prevailing over the past 7 or 8 years.

Borrowers

may be expected to refinance if rates should drop significantly, of
course, so that there is some exposure to the risk that average portfolio
yields could adjust downward again.

But the widespread use of prepayment

penalties protects mortgage lenders against moderate rate declines.




-8And mortgage assumptions are not the hazard they once were, partly
because of the declining use of assumption clauses and partly because
the rapid inflation in existing home prices has made the outstanding
low-rate loans too small a proportion of purchase price to be of use to
most buyers.
On the liability side, a thrift institution's balance sheet
can seem rather cluttered, reflecting the greater flexibility of new
sources of funds and the offering of new financial services over
recent years.

In addition to regular passbook savings, there are

at least five separate categories of time certificates available,
ranging in maturity from 3 months to 6 years.

Savings banks were

instrumental in the introduction of NOW accounts in Massachusetts
and New Hampshire in 1972, and in the subsequent broadening of this
market to the entire New England area.
for thrifts are spreading.

Also, demand deposit powers

They were introduced in Maine and

Connecticut in 1975, at least for consumer-type accounts, and similar
legislation was enacted for state-chartered savings banks and S&L's in
New York State this past May.

It is regrettable that these new money

transfer powers do not call for the provision of the cash reserve
requirements that would help in achieving effective monetary control,
but that is a topic for another speech on another day.
In sum, the trend among institutions at which consumers keep
their funds is evidently toward more and more similarity on the deposit
side.

And with the better matching of asset and liability maturities,

as well as the greater flexibility for maneuver on both sides of the




-9balance sheet, I believe that the position of the thrift institutions
is significantly more resistant to interest rate cycles than was the
case a decade ago.

Today the thrifts are again strong entities, quite

able to compete effectively with other depositary institutions in a
variety of consumer savings markets.
There remains, however, one lurking threat to the viability
of thrift depositaries, including consumer-oriented commercial banks.
This is the threat that, in some future period of high and rising
interest rates, there may again be a substantial or protracted shift
in savings flows away from the institutions.

Savers have become more

sophisticated over the years and, therefore, accumulated savings
balances are increasingly interest-sensitive.

In spite of the

innovations of the thrifts in longer-term certificates, the non-institutional
market has also been adept at devising instruments to tempt savers into
becoming "investors."

These alternatives to deposits are unconstrained

by arbitrary interest rate ceilings, and if there should be another
period like 1973-74, when market interest rates soared to unprecedented
highs, I believe that we might well face a flood of market-type
instruments designed to attract the relatively small saver.
Part of the problem is that the size of the funds over which
a "small" saver has discretion has been growing, while the denominations
of the market alternatives to deposits have not.

The minimum denomination

Treasury bill was increased from $1,000 to $30,000 in 1970, and partly
countered the movement of small savers into these instruments.




But

-10Treasury bonds and notes, Federal agency securities, corporate and
municipal obligations are widely available in units of $1,000 or less,
and will offer very attractive yields during periods of credit stringency.
With account sizes at savings banks exceeding $4,000 on average, the
markets for these securities will offer a tempting alternative to savers
who undertake the rather small effort to search out the attractive
issues.

And once they have done so,the second time will be much easier.
Recently, also, financial innovations have provided attractive

new outlets for the funds of interest-sensitive small investors.

The

issuance of variable-rate notes in 1974 by Citicorp and other bank
holding companies generated great interest at the time.

Though many

of these notes have been redeemed in recent months, they are certain
to reappear again should market conditions dictate.

Another develop­

ment of significance was the rapid evolution of money market mutual
funds early in 1974.

This handful of funds grew by $3.5 billion in

little more than one year's time, and they have held their own in the
subsequent period of relatively low interest rates.

We can be sure

that these innovations— and others as well— will do a thriving
business in drawing funds away from depositary accounts whenever
thrifts and commercial banks are unable to pay interest rates that
are reasonably commensurate with open market alternatives.
From the record of the decade, it seems to me abundantly clear
that Regulation Q is becoming an increasingly ineffective device in
protecting depositary institutions when market rates rise appreciably




-11above whatever ceilings prevail.

This ineffectiveness is particularly

acute at the short end of the maturity spectrum, where the largest
gaps between open market rates and deposit rate ceilings typically
occur.

Thus, it is in providing alternatives to passbook and other

short-term deposits that the process of financial innovation has been
most effective.

Regulation Q may successfully restrict the competition

between one type of depositary institution and another, but it cannot keep
the institutions as a group from losing increasingly large parts of their
savings business to the market when times are ripe.

This is most likely

to occur precisely when credit conditions generally are the tightest,
so that the corollary objective of maintaining adequate flows of mortgage
funds at such times must necessarily be frustrated.
In order to counter effectively the threat of disintermediation,
I believe that we need to make further progress in loosening the grip
of Regulation Q.

Such progress would be consistent with the Hunt

Commission recommendations and subsequent legislative proposals for
financial reform, all of which seek to free up the institutions so that
they can compete in any market environment.

The phasing out of

Regulation Q must take place cautiously and prudently, of course, and
I would think it desirable to retain standby authority for use in the
event that destructive inter-institutional competition should again
develop.

But we should be working steadily toward the conditions

that will make possible such a phase-out.

For example, the industry

should be working now on proposals for new deposit instruments, designed




-12especially to hold short-term deposits in the face of fluctuating
short-term market rates.

Or perhaps we should consider raising rate

ceilings in small systematic steps at regular intervals, so that all
institutions will have an opportunity to adust gradually.

Whatever

the specific proposals, it would be better to make progress gradually,
I believe, than to wait and be forced to make hasty adjustments in a
period of crisis.

Although such liberalizations as I have mentioned

may seem unnecessarily costly, especially at a time when savings
inflows are ample in any event, they would help to prepare the thrift
industry to better defend its position when it again finds itself in
direct competition with market forces.
In keeping with what I regard to be a necessary and desirable
movement in the direction of greater competitive freedom, I want to
state also that I find the maintenance of a required rate differential
subject to serious criticism from the standpoint of equity and
increasingly dubious as a matter of competitive equality.

Certainly,

the differential is questionable in case of IRA and Keogh Accounts,
which represent the investment of long-term retirement funds and have
little or nothing to do with the convenience concept of one-stop banking.
But even for regular deposit business, it seems to me that the supposed
disadvantages of thrifts are rapidly being narrowed to the vanishing
point.

Demand deposit powers, NOW accounts, facilities for automatic

or directed transfers of funds, and the wide array of savings and time
certificate options are serving to make more and more thrifts like
commercial banks on the liability side.




And for consumer customers,

-13the same trends toward similarity in service are evident on the asset
side of the ledger.
The other basic rationale for the rate differential, as I
understand it, is that this will help to maintain flows of funds to
the mortgage market and hence support a healthy volume of homebuilding.
But this is not the case, as I have noted, when all of the institutions
combined are losing competitive position vis a vis the open market.

And

it may not be true even in normal times if the institutions are diversifying
into other types of investments.

Over the last decade, for example, the

proportion of total financial assets invested directly by the mutual
savings banks in 1-4 family mortgages has dropped from 58 per cent to
39 per cent.

Even if indirect mortgage investments, in the form of

mortgage-backed bonds, are included,the decline in portfolio concentration
has amounted to 14 percentage points over this period.

The importance of

home mortgage loans in the portfolios of savings and loan associations
has remained much greater— precisely, I would imagine, because they do
not have the same latitude to diversify into other investment outlets.
These comparisons point up an essential difficulty with the
differential as a support for the mortgage market— that is, Its potential
inefficiency 1n achieving this purpose.

The inefficiency results because

the differential is expected to work indirectly through a distinction
between types of institutions that may not be closely related to the
use of funds generated by the rate advantage.

There has never been a

guarantee that the additional funds would be used to make mortgages— only
an expectation based on past portfolio composition.




If we want to

-14encourage more investment in housing as a matter of national social
priority, it would be more efficient and more certain to do so by rewarding
the activity directly through the market mechanism of a higher interest
return.
In further search of means to counter the threat of disintermediation,
we need to reconsider and remove inflexibilities on the asset side of
institutional balance sheets as well.

Broader investment powers represent

one way to achieve this, and such asset diversification is already underway,
as I have noted.

Returns on mortgage portfolios should be made to reflect

more nearly broad movements in open market rates, whether up or down.

In

this connection, I believe that variable rate mortgages— which have had
some success recently in California and other states— should be made
available as an option on the national level also.

I recognize that there

are many complexities in marketing variable rate mortgages, but the fact
that they have been well received in some areas should encourage us to
try them in others.
Usury ceilings provide another example of non-market rigidity
on the asset side.

Indeed, the 8-1/2 per cent New York State ceiling

has been a major Impediment to profitable Investment by mutual savings
banks in local mortgage markets there.

A substantial part of their

mortgage activity has had to focus instead on mortgage-backed securities
and the acquisition of loans from out of State.

Restrictive usury ceilings

on loans are sometimes cited as an argument for maintaining ceiling
controls on deposit rates.

But such an argument cannot be persuasive

except on a very superficial level, since the result is simply to
match an unavailability of mortgage finance at a non-competitive




-15rates with an unavailability of funds, as savings are diverted to the
open market.
I recognize that removal of such impediments is not an easy
task, but we must continue to work at it.

And even if returns on assets

do not become as flexible as we might like them to be, there is hope now
for financial conditions favorable to a movement away from
the constraints of Regulation Q.

dependence on

Interest rates have declined considerably

over the past two years, as inflation rates and the expectations of
continuing rapid inflation have eased.

This tendency may be extended, if

we can make further meaningful progress in curbing inflation and if credit
demands on our markets are not excessive.

But even if this is not achieved,

it seems to me very unlikely that we will witness the kind of increase in
mortgage interest rates in the decade to come that we had in the decade
past, when they nearly doubled.

Therefore, I think it reasonable to

believe that much of the extraordinarily slow and difficult adjustment in
mortgage portfolios of the thrifts to the higher prevailing market rate
structure is behind us.

If so, the issue of Regulation Q constraint may

simply disappear over time because of market circumstances.
I noted earlier that the Regulation Q-type structure of interest
rate ceilings was from the outset intended as an interim measure; and, in
just a few weeks, the rate ceilings will be reconsidered once again by the
Congress.

In the evaluation of the place that Regulation Q-type authority

should occupy in our financial regulatory system, I believe that three
basic considerations should be kept firmly in mind.

First, Regulation Q

is essentially anticompetitive and protective, since it places ceilings




-16on the price that may be offered and earned for the accumulated funds
of relatively small savers.

Second, the Regulation Q-type structure of

rate ceilings cannot prevent a draining away of savings into more rewarding
uses when open market interest rates are high.

And finally, the evolution

of thrift institutions over the past ten years has done a great deal to
prepare them for the restoration of fully competitive conditions.

I hope

and trust that such conditions can be acheived in the not too distant
future.