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MAR 1 4 1980
FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE
CORPORATION

Statement on

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H. R. 2, Sunset Act of 1979
H. R. 65, Legislative Oversight Act of 1979
H. R. 2364, Regulatory Reform Act of 1979
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Presented to
Subcommittee on the Legislative Process, and
Subcommittee on Rules of the House
Committee on Rules
House of Representatives

by

Irvine H. Sprague, Chairman
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation

June 20, 1979

Mr. Chairman, I appreciate this opportunity to present the FDIC's
views on H. R. 2, the Sunset Act of 1979, H. R. 65, the Legislative
Oversight Act of 1979, and H. R. 2364, the Regulatory Reform Act of
1979.
H. R. 2
The Sunset bill's first three titles are closely related.
Title I sets out a precise schedule for the review and reauthorization
by Congress of most Federal programs.

Title II requires the General

Accounting Office and the Congressional Budget Office to prepare
an "inventory" of Federal programs for use by the Congress "in
carrying out the requirements of Titles I and III."

The inventory

would include various specifics relating to each program, such
as enabling provisions of law, congressional committees having
jurisdiction, and dates of relevant authorization and reauthorization
legislation.

Title III requires each congressional committee

periodically to conduct comprehensive reexaminations of selected
programs subject to its jurisdiction.
Title IV would create a new Citizens' Commission on the Organi­
zation and Operation of Government to conduct a nonpartisan study
of the organization and operation of "all departments, agencies,
independent instrumentalities, and authorities of the executive
branch of the Government."

And Title V specifically requires the

President, by April 1, 1981, to submit to the Congress an analysis
of the overall effectiveness and efficiency of the FDIC, OCC,
FTC, SEC and FCC (but not the Federal Reserve) and to propose
any reorganization of these agencies' functions which the President
considers appropriate.




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H. R. 65
The Legislative Oversight bill is much shorter and is referred
to as a "sunrise“ bill because it would affect only new programs.
Congress would employ its oversight function by requiring future
authorization bills to contain statements of objectives of new
programs authorized therein, in addition to requiring that the agency
administering such programs submit to Congress annual reports stating
whether the objectives of such programs are being achieved.

Further­

more, congressional committee reports would be required to analyze
the social and economic impact of proposed legislation.

This bill

would further require the GAO to evaluate most Federal programs
and would limit new budget authority to a 5-year period.
H. R. 2364
The Regulatory Reform bill would require that, by April 30,
1985, the President must submit to Congress a recommended plan
for reorganizing the FDIC, Federal Reserve, OCC, FHLBB, and NCUA.
(The bill also covers 27 other specified agencies, with differing
deadlines.)

If such plan is not submitted when due, the bill requires

the Congressional Banking and Government Operations Committees to
prepare such a plan, which would become the pending business in
each House not later than April 1, 1986.

The GAO would be required

to submit its own agency analyses and reorganization proposals
to the Congress under the same time schedule.

The bill also contains

procedural provisions designed to ensure prompt congressional
consideration and disposition of the proposed reorganizations.
If no regulatory reform legislation is enacted within 20 months of
the time the President’s plan is due (i.e ., December 31, 1986, for




-3the financial regulatory agencies), affected agencies would terminate,
except that their rules and regulations which are essential for
preserving public health and safety would remain intact and would
be transferred to the Justice Department for enforcement —

unless

and until "other appropriate provision is enacted by the Congress."
OUR GENERAL COMMENTS
The primary thrust of these various legislative proposals appears
to go toward the many programs created by the Congress and carried
out by the Cabinet departments and other executive agencies.

It does

not appear that the sunset provisions of this proposed legislation
are intended to be directed toward FDIC bank insurance and supervisory
functions —

nor should they be.

We believe any legislation enacted

should clearly make this point.
The reorganization provisions of the legislation which would
affect the FDIC appear to be related to various proposals for
consolidation of the banking agencies.

These proposals have been

the subject of"congressional hearings, and we have testified in
the past that the new Federal Financial Institutions Examination
Council which is just now getting under way should be given a
fair chance to perform in the areas of coordination and cooperation
before any consolidation legislation is seriously considered.
The Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council, created
by Title X of FIRIRCA (the Financial Institutions Regulatory and
Interest Rate Control Act of 1978) is made up of the five financial
institutions regulatory bodies —

the FDIC, the Federal Reserve

Board, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the Federal
Home Loan Bank Board, and the National Credit Union Administration.




-4The Council's purpose is to explore areas of cooperation and con­
solidation by the agencies.

In developing our procedures and

establishing our priorities, we created five interagency staff task
forces:

A Task Force on Supervision, a Task Force on Consumer

Compliance, a Task Force on Reports, a Task Force on Examiner
Education, and a Task Force on Surveillance Systems.
The law also encourages closer cooperation in Federal-State
supervision of financial institutions by creating a State Liaison
Committee to meet with the Council to encourage the application of
uniform principles and standards.
I sense a genuine commitment on the part of all members,
including myself, to make the Examination Council work.

I know that

our performance is going to be closely monitored by Congress and
others.

If the Council is perceived as ineffectual or as a dodge

for genuine progress in supervisory cooperation, there would be a
legitimate reason for a real push for legislation to accomplish some
type of statutory reorganization or consolidation of financial
institution supervision.
LEGISLATIVE VETO
Finally, I know that you are giving special attention to the
matter of the legislative veto.
As to that question, Congress always retains the power to enact
legislation overriding or modifying any regulation promulgated by an
agency.

However, given the vast volume of such regulations published

annually, it is difficult to see how Congress could give appropriate
attention to each of them under a legislative veto procedure that
would subject virtually every regulation to review by Congress.




Moreover, we think such a procedure would breach the traditional insula­
tion from the political process which is essential to the effective
functioning of the bank insurance and regulatory functions.

Further,

we believe a legislative veto procedure would be inappropriate once
Congress has delegated the authority to act to an administrative
agency.

Additionally, the legislative veto process could also

result in inordinate delay in implementing necessary regulations.
We are not aware, from our experience, that there is any need
for such a complex procedure.

It would seem that the same results

can be accomplished in other ways under existing law.

Congress is

free to act after the imposition of a regulation, or even during its
publication period if the need should arise, and Congress has acted
swiftly in other cases; e .g., the prompt passage in October, 1973,
of Public Law 93-123 which prohibited the financial regulatory
agencies from permitting regulated institutions to offer, free of
deposit interest rate ceilings, so-called "wild card" savings certifi­
cates of deposit in amounts under $100,000.
In sum, we believe the legislative veto would be a rather extreme
reaction, contrary to the general format of the administrative system
for regulating various industries.

We perceive the administrative

system as designed to allow Congress to outline the general
parameters of an area it wished to regulate and to place the responsi­
bility for specific regulations on the appropriate administrative
agency.

The legislative veto would seem to go against the grain

of established practice and put Congress into the day-to-day
business of regulating specific problems in specific industries.
It would not seem likely that Congress, as a whole or in its




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various committees, would want to equip itself to assume the burden
of such detailed rulemaking.
I will be pleased to provide any further information your
Subcommittees desire on these subjects.