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December 11, 1981




Statement by
Frederick II. Schultz, Vice Chairman
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Domestic Monetary Policy Subcommittee
of the
Committee on Banking, Finance and Urban Affairs
House of Representatives
December 11, 1981

It is a pleasure for me to he here today to testify on Joint
Resolution 365.

The issues involved are of vital interest and concern to

the Board of Governors, and my colleagues and I appreciate the opportunity
to convey our views*
Let me emphasize at the outset that the Federal Reserve Board agrees
fully with the objective of achieving a lasting reduction in interest rates*
Lower interest rates would serve to improve conditions in credit-dependent
sectors of the economy such as housing, agriculture, and small' business and
would relieve earnings pressures on numerous financial institutions, particu­
larly thrift institutions.

Interest rates have declined sharply over the past

two months, as private credit demands have weakened along with reduced economic
activity.

But they remain high by historical standards.

The fundamental rea­

sons for this are the persistence of inflationary expectations along with large
Federal financing requirements.

I would hope that recent improvements in price

performance will begin to erode inflationary expectations, but so long as bor­
rowers believe that they will be able, through inflation, to pay off loans with
shrunken dollars, they will have a strong incentive to borrow*

And so long as

lenders see inflation in their future, they will require an ’
’
inflation premium”
that compensates for the erosion of purchasing power.
Monetary policy is designed to achieve a gradual reduction in
monetary growth rates that will curb inflation over time*

Reduced monetary

expansion is essential if the fight against inflation is to be successful*
As inflation and inflationary expectations subside, conditions for sustainable
economic recovery should be established.




If the Federal Reserve were to attempt

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to reduce interest rates by pouring reserves into the banking system and
promoting a sharp surge in money growth, short-term interest rates might
decline further, but this decline would be only temporary*

The excessive

monetary stimulus would intensify price pressures in the economy*

Inflation­

ary expectations would worsen and long-term interest rates, which are of
major importance for investment activity and homebuilding, would undoubtedly
rise.

Thus, the end result of an overly expansionary monetary policy would

be higher, not lower, interest rates.
I would like to turn now to the specific provisions of the Joint
Resolution.

The first of these provisions calls for reconsideration of cur­

rent economic policies "so as to bring interest rates down rapidly enough to
effect an early, complete recovery from the recession and to prevent a resur­
gence of high interest rates in future years.*'

It is our view that what we

take to be the basic purpose of this provision— a sustainable economic recovery
without the excessively high interest rates we all want to avoid— can be achieved
only if inflation is brought under control.

That will require a steady monetary

policy, but also and Importantly, disciplined fiscal policies and moderation of
wage and price behavior on the part of business and labor.
The Joint Resolution also calls for ”
an aggressive campaign designed
to encourage banks to cease providing loans or lines of credit for unproduc­
tive takeovers and speculative purposes so as to increase the supply of credit
for productive purposes.” We assume that this means use of "moral suasion“
rather than authority that might be involved through Presidential activation
of the Credit Control Act of 1969.




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The Board of Governors is fully sympathetic with the objective of
encouraging the most productive use of credit and understands the concerns
that prompted this provision of the Joint Resolution.
serious reservations about the provision.

Nonetheless, we have

It raises fundamental issues

regarding the definition of "unproductive" and "speculative" credit.

For

example, we should be wary of categorizing given uses of credit— such as
the financing of corporate takeovers— as necessarily undesirable.

A given

takeover may be "productive”in the sense that it may strengthen management,
generate resources for increased investment in improved facilities, produce
economies of integration or scale, and especially in the case of smaller
enterprises, provide for orderly transfer of ownership from one generation to
another.
On a more technical level I would point out that the several highly
publicized merger deals this year have in reality had quite limited impacts
on credit markets.

The credit flows involved in actually consummated transac­

tions have been considerably smaller than suggested by the aggregation of credit
lines that were arranged, including those by unsuccessful bidders.

Moreover,

mergers generally involve only a transfer of ownership of existing assets and
do not tend to absorb the real savings in the economy.

Stockholders who sell

out obtain funds that are available for reinvestment or for loan repayments,
thereby recycling these funds into credit markets.
I do not want to suggest that we should be complacent about takeover
loans.

They may in some cases be a cause for concern and they should be given

close scrutiny.




Moreover, they can have a somewhat inhibiting effect on short-run

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In committing themselves to a large volume of takeover loans,

banks may restrict for a time their lending to other potential borrowers, but
any such effects should normally be quite small and of short duration.
Another provision of the Joint Resolution urges “
efforts to ensure
that thrift institutions, the housing industry, small business, farmers, con­
sumers, and homebuyers have access to the least expensive possible credit."
A few months ago our staff completed a study for the Senate Banking Committee
which concluded, not surprisingly, that adverse credit conditions had played
a role in curtailing activity in housing, automobiles, and agriculture, and
apparently many small businesses as well.

Actually, as the study also makes

clear, we have to be cautious about blaming high interest rates for all the
problems that some sectors of the economy are experiencing.

In many instances

a major part of the difficulty appears to lie elsewhere, including excessive
price increases in the past and failures to remain fully competitive.

Nonethe­

less, high interest rates have certainly exacerbated problems and have had an
uneven impact on different sectors of the economy.
Access of selected sectors to credit on the least expensive terms
possible cannot be achieved by credit-control-type approaches in today's highly
competitive national and international financial markets.

Inequities, admin­

istrative nightmares, and distortions in credit flows would be the principal
result.

Allocation of credit on the least expensive terms possible is most

effectively performed by a freely functioning and competitive market.

Last

year's experience with credit controls, although they were imposed under excep­
tional circumstances and were in effect only for a brief period, emphasizes that




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they lose their effectiveness and become increasingly inequitable as the
financial system devises ways to circumvent them.
Pressures in credit-sensitive sectors can be relieved efficiently
and effectively only by achieving and sustaining a lower level of interest
rates generally.

This depends on bringing inflation under control.

This pro­

cess would be accelerated, and sectors of the credit market relieved, if Federal
fiscal deficits were held down.

In current inflationary circumstances heavy

borrowings by the Federal government tend to hold up interest rates and absorb
savings that would otherwise be channeled to private borrowers.
The Joint Resolution also asks for studies "on innovative techniques
for managing the money supply and credit resources in times of tight credit so
as to meet urgent national needs."

As many Committee members know, the Federal

Open Market Committee adopted new operating procedures about two years ago that
were designed to improve the System's control over the growth of the monetary
aggregates.

Those operating procedures, and certain alternatives, were reviewed

by our staff in a comprehensive study that was completed earlier this year.
Copies of the two-volume staff study were supplied to Congressional Committees.
In addition to this study, we of course have our procedures, as they involve
all the instruments of policy, under continuing review.

Against this back­

ground, and given current economic developments, I would question whether a
major new study of the type contemplated in the resolution is needed.
The Joint Resolution calls on the Federal Reserve to "reconsider
its tentative decision to reduce the targets for monetary growth for 1982."
The contemplated reduction applies to only one of the targeted measures of




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money, namely, narrowly defined money or Ml-B; no changes from this year's
ranges were proposed for the broader measures of money, including M2 and M3.
For a number of reasons, including the explosive growth in money market mutual
funds that may substitute in part for Ml-B type accounts, growth of Ml-B this
year has fallen short of our target range, while expansion in the broader mone­
tary aggregates has been do s e to or above the upper limits of their respective
target ranges.
In keeping with the Joint Resolution and its own past practice, the
Federal Open Market Committee has planned a full review of the tentative 1982
ranges at a meeting scheduled for early February and a final decision regard­
ing those ranges will be made at that time.

By early February the Committee

will have had an opportunity to analyze the Administration's new budget pro­
posals and will, of course, be in a position to evaluate the latest economic
and financial developments.

I cannot predict the outcome of that review, but

I can assure you that it will be thorough.
As a final provision, the Joint Resolution states that “
the President
shall select individuals for nomination to vacancies on the Board of Governors
...so that this Nation'8 agricultural and commercial interests, including hous­
ing and small businesses, will no longer be underrepresented.“ The selection
of new Board members is, of course, the prerogative of the President subject
to confirmation by the U.S. Senate.

In my view, it would be helpful at this

time for a new Board member to have a broad business or financial background
and to possess administrative skills.

I can see positive benefits in diversity

of backgrounds and regional representation on the Board, provided a member does




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not undertake to represent the narrow interests of a particular group, industry
or region.
In conclusion, I want to reiterate that my colleagues and I on the
Board of Governors are sympathetic with the basic objectives of the Joint
Resolution to lower interest rates and achieve a balanced distribution of
the Nation's credit resources.
resolution at this time*

However, we would question the need for the

It runs the risk of being interpreted as calling

for monetary policy to back off from its anti-inflationary stance and of
regenerating what I hope are diminishing inflationary expectations.

I

believe it is critically important that the economic recovery following the
present downturn in economic activity be on a sustainable basis with infla­
tion continuing to unwind.