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Testimony of Governor Edward W. Kelley, Jr.

Supervision of bank sales practices
Before the Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Securities and Government Sponsored
Enterprises of the Committee on Banking and Financial Services, U.S. House of
Representatives
June 26, 1996
It is a pleasure to appear before this Subcommittee to discuss the supervision of bank sales
practices on behalf of the Federal Reserve. The recent publication of various survey results
has focused attention on the performance of the banking and securities industries in
educating customers about the critical differences between FDIC-insured deposits and
uninsured investment products sold on bank premises.
The Board has a long history of concerns about possible customer confusion between
insured deposit instruments and uninsured investment products sold on bank premises. We
have worked and continue to work diligently to minimize customer confusion through a
number of supervisory and educational initiatives. These initiatives include coordination
among the banking agencies to formulate clear and comprehensive guidelines governing the
conduct of sales programs for nondeposit investment products offered on bank premises; the
development of detailed examination procedures covering all aspects of sales of nondeposit
products; and the development and implementation of an ambitious, multi-faceted education
program for consumers and for banks. We also have developed a productive relationship
with the NASD that includes the coordination of examinations of bank affiliated broker
dealers and the sharing of examination information in appropriate circumstances. Finally,
the banking agencies and the securities self-regulatory organizations have been working
together to extend the same professional qualification standards found in the securities
industry to bank sales personnel.
Before discussing these matters in more detail, I believe it would be helpful to discuss
briefly the continuing growth of the banking industry's sale of mutual funds and other
nondeposit investment products that has occurred since early 1994 when the Board last
testified on this subject.
Mutual Fund Sales
It is estimated that there were $3.1 trillion of mutual funds outstanding as of April 1996, up
by about 50 percent from year- end 1994. Of this amount, bank proprietary funds accounted
for about $420 billion, about 60 percent of which were money market funds. As you can see,
the banking industry's share of total mutual funds outstanding is relatively small,
particularly when money market funds are excluded.
With respect to sales volume, excluding money market funds, banks sold about $32 billion
of equity and debt funds in 1995, up from $29 billion in 1994. These uninsured investment
products -- whose prices are most susceptible to changes in interest rates and other market
factors -- generate the most concern that customers understand they could lose the principal

that they invested. Over the years, the banking agencies have consistently sought to protect
and educate customers who might incorrectly believe that such investments are insured
deposit instruments.
Interagency Statement
In February 1994, the banking agencies jointly issued an Interagency Statement on the
Retail Sales of Nondeposit Investment Products. The Interagency Statement calls for banks
selling such products on their premises to intensify their disclosure efforts to advise retail
customers that the investments (i) are not deposits insured by the FDIC, (ii) are not
guaranteed by the bank and (iii) are subject to the risk of loss of principal. These three
disclosures are quite similar to those that have been required by the Federal Reserve since
1972 when it issued interpretations of Regulation Y pertaining to bank holding company
sales of uninsured investment instruments, such as commercial paper. Banks were required
to provide disclosures that were intended to enhance customer awareness and minimize the
mistaken notion that an investment product purchased on bank premises was the same as an
insured deposit.
The Interagency Statement also formalized the agencies' expectation that sales of investment
products would take place in an area of the lobby distinctly separate from teller windows
and other locations where deposits could be made. Moreover, advertisements and account
statements that contain information about both insured deposits and uninsured investment
products must separate the information and provide the three disclosures I mentioned earlier.
Appropriate standards for training, compensation, suitability and supervision also were
discussed.
Finally, the Interagency Statement addressed the relationship between banks and third
parties that sell investment products on bank premises -- by far the most typical scenario,
since approximately 87 percent of all sales on bank premises occur through broker dealers.
Examination Procedures
Shortly after issuing the Interagency Statement, the Federal Reserve developed detailed
examination procedures for use in state member banks that sell mutual funds to retail
customers. The procedures are intended to enhance the supervision of these activities and to
assure bank compliance with the guidelines contained in the Interagency Statement. The
procedures focus on the adequacy of disclosure, the physical separation of securities sales
from deposit-taking activities, and other procedures intended to avoid customer confusion
and ensure customer protection.
In the two years since their implementation, our examiners have found that banks generally
have procedures in place that comply with the guidelines in the Interagency Statement. In
some cases, examiners have identified material deficiencies in sales programs and instructed
that they be corrected. Although the Federal Reserve is prepared to initiate an enforcement
action against any bank found to operate a sales program in a manner not consistent with
principles of safety and soundness, in each case in which problems were discovered, the
bank responded promptly. In some cases this included a temporary suspension of sale
activities until deficiencies were corrected. We have also found many banks to be pro-active
in their efforts to operate investment sales programs in a safe and sound manner, and our
staff answers frequent inquiries concerning compliance with the requirements of the
Interagency Statement.

NASD Coordination
In January 1995, the banking agencies entered into an Agreement in Principle with the
NASD to coordinate the supervision and examination of bank affiliated broker-dealers
between the NASD and the banking agencies. In the interest of functional supervision and to
avoid duplicative efforts to supervise and examine entities subject to the legal jurisdiction of
both the NASD and the banking agencies, arrangements were made to share examination
schedules, coordinate examinations and share pertinent findings relevant to the retail
securities sales activities of such firms.
Pursuant to the Agreement, the Federal Reserve has worked closely with the NASD on
several occasions to address supervisory issues arising from the examination of a state
member bank and an affiliated broker-dealer that conducts retail sales activities on the
bank's premises. While the Federal Reserve has addressed the issues with the bank to seek
corrective action in response to the problems, the NASD has addressed the matter with the
affiliated broker-dealer thereby assuring that all parties to the business activity are
responding to the supervisors' collective concerns.
Most important, we have established effective lines of communication and a cooperative
working relationship with the NASD. We think that this relationship has made our
supervisory programs more effective.
NASD Proposed Rulemaking
In late 1994, the NASD proposed new rules governing sales of securities on bank premises
by member firms. The Federal Reserve worked with NASD staff and provided extensive
comments on the proposal, many of which were incorporated into its revised rule. The
NASD also relied on the expertise of the many commenters as well as on the advice of a
newly created committee of bank affiliated broker-dealers and third party providers that sell
through banks. The result is that the NASD's proposed rule now is generally consistent with
the Interagency Statement with respect to the important issues of separation and disclosure.
We informally have communicated with NASD representatives on issues, such as use of
confidential information, that need additional clarification. The extensive communication in
connection with this rulemaking demonstrates the commitment of both the industry and the
regulators to achieve consistency in rules and guidelines governing this area. Our goal is to
maximize the benefits and minimize the burdens resulting from our joint jurisdiction in this
area.
Banking Agencies' Proposed Rulemaking on Professional Qualifications
The staff of the banking agencies is nearing completion of a proposed rule to establish a
professional qualifications program for banks selling securities to retail customers that
closely follows securities industry requirements. We believe the establishment of
professional qualification requirements is in the best interests of the banking industry and of
consumers.
Briefly, the proposed rule would require bank employees to take and pass a securities
industry professional qualification examination before beginning to sell securities to retail
customers. This will ensure that bank securities representatives are appropriately trained and
educated as required by the Interagency Statement, and will enhance the ability of banks to
serve their retail securities customers. Continuing education requirements, such as those
required of broker dealers and their employees, also would be imposed to assure continued
familiarity with industry practices, securities issues and regulatory requirements. Finally,

bank sales personnel would be subject to a registration process under which employment
and certain disciplinary and customer complaint information could be accessed by members
of the public. The banking agencies are working with the NASD to arrange for the NASD's
new Central Registration Depository to maintain registration information filed with the
banking agencies.
In our discussions with the trade organizations and industry participants, we have
encountered strong support for the proposed rule. We will encourage the banking industry to
participate by commenting on the proposal as the banking agencies work closely with the
securities self regulatory organizations to bring this proposal to fruition.
Market Trends Survey
The FDIC recently released the results of its market trends survey which show that some
banks and securities firms selling on bank premises need to improve their efforts to advise
customers of the risks associated with nondeposit investment products. We agree. While
there have been various consumer surveys that have shown an increasing awareness among
the investing public that mutual funds and other investment products purchased at banks are
not FDIC insured, more can be done. For those investors who do not understand the risks
associated with the lack of FDIC insurance, point-of-sale disclosures remain important. In
this regard, the Federal Reserve is working closely with the other federal banking agencies
to promote disclosure by banks through the examination process, promote greater consumer
understanding through education, and promote professional qualification standards for bank
sales personnel. We also will continue to work with the NASD to obtain further
improvements in disclosure by broker dealers selling securities on banks premises. As I
noted earlier, approximately 87 percent of all securities sold on bank premises are through
sales representatives of NASD registered broker dealers.
Education Initiatives
In an effort to help bank customers understand that not all products sold at banks are insured
by the federal government, the Federal Reserve launched a multi-dimensional, national
education program designed to deliver this message to consumers. In addition to the
Interagency Statement, for the past 18 months, the Federal Reserve has been engaged in an
intensive education program aimed at both retail customers and bankers. Mutual Funds:
Understand the Risks, as the program is known, is quite comprehensive. It includes material
for both a consumer seminar presentation and a banker compliance program; a video that
can be used by bankers and other professionals in their dealings with retail customers; and
compliance checklists to help bankers operate in a manner that complies with the
Interagency Statement.
The goal of the consumer seminar program is to help retail customers understand the
differences between insured deposits and uninsured investments; the goal of the banker
education program is to increase compliance with the Interagency Statement, which in turn
will help inform and protect customers. The program has been well received and has been
discussed in numerous publications. The American Bankers Association has featured the
program in its newsletter and has broadcast the video on its Skylink System.
To date, 70 consumer seminars and 47 banker training programs have been held around the
country, reaching over 7,500 consumers -- including a seminar in Spanish to an audience in
Puerto Rico -- and nearly 1400 bankers. Materials have been distributed to another 3,150
consumers via exhibits and town meetings sponsored by the Securities and Exchange

Commission. Nearly 10,000 copies of the video, over 7,000 copies of the compliance
checklists, and approximately 1,500 copies of the consumer outreach package have been
distributed. The materials have been shared with federal and state regulators and are
available from the Board. Selected materials have been translated into Spanish.
These seminars and educational initiatives appear to work. A comparison of knowledge
levels before and after a consumer seminar indicates that individuals seem to have a better
understanding of the risks associated with nondeposit investment products: 91 percent know
these products are not FDIC insured, compared to 65 percent prior to the seminar; 87
percent know these products carry the risk of loss of principal, compared to 72 percent prior
to the seminar. Bankers who attended our training sessions report that they feel better able to
comply with the Interagency Statement, especially with respect to disclosure and the
physical separation of the investment sales area from deposit taking activities.
We intend to do more. We have completed a video public service announcement that will be
distributed this summer to 145 stations in the top forty national television markets. Materials
for the bankers training program are currently being updated and we hope to soon initiate
another round of banker education programs.
Conclusion
The continuing growth in bank sales of mutual funds and other uninsured investments
necessitates a commitment on the part of the banking industry and bank supervisors to the
principle that effective disclosure of risks is in the best interest of the customer and the
banking organization. Banks can best assure that their sales staffs are operating in a manner
consistent with this objective if they develop comprehensive training programs and
effectively monitor compliance with policies and procedures governing sales of nondeposit
products. The Federal Reserve will continue to seek ways to strengthen its educational and
supervisory programs to promote compliance with the guidelines in the Interagency
Statement, so that bank customers are served in a safe and sound manner consistent with
principles of customer protection.
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