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10:00 a.m., E.D.T.
April 30, 1996

Statement by
Edward W. Kelley, Jr.
Member, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Committee on Banking and Financial Services
U.S. House of Representatives
April 30, 1996

Mr. Chairman and members of the Committee, I am pleased to be here
today to discuss with you issues concerning the supervision and regulation of the U.S.
banking system. Let me begin by pointing out that the overall condition of the
American banking system is very strong. At home and abroad, U.S. banks are viewed
as highly competitive, extremely innovative, and financially sound.

The focus of these hearings, as I understand it, is the effectiveness of
the current regulatory structure and the desirability of changing the regulatory and
supervisory structure for insured depository institutions, an issue considered by the
Congress two years ago. You have asked several questions that I want to respond to,
but first I would like to indicate that the Board believes that it is important to keep
certain principles in mind as we assess the need for changes in the U.S. bank
supervisory system.

First, the federal supervisory system should complement market
evolution, and adjustments to its structure should follow, not precede, changes in the
structure of the banking system that will result from statutory and regulatory proposals
to alter substantially the powers of banking organizations. I need not explain to this
Committee how the forces of technological change and globalization of financial
markets are blurring traditional distinctions between financial institutions that we all
once took for granted. Thus there is an urgent need to modernize the U.S. banking
structure. Among the more important modifications in structure being considered, now
that Congress has taken action to allow interstate banking and branching, are those
dealing with a new charter for thrifts and new activities for banking organizations.
Repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act’s separations of commercial and investment banking
and authorization of insurance activities for banking organizations are the most
important changes being considered by the Congress.

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Each of these proposals raises complex matters of regulatory structure.
Once these issues have been resolved, then we will have a better idea of what
changes are needed in our supervisory system. In the meantime, it seems premature
to make any far reaching decisions altering the structure of our bank and financial
supervisory system. Such changes could easily prove to be a poor fit once industry
restructuring takes place. In the interim, the existing regime seems to be sufficiently
effective so as not to require legislative changes.

As a matter of principle, we should also guard against the unintended
extension of the safety net, an issue that has been of longstanding concern to the
Board, the Congress, and many observers of, and participants in, the U.S. financial
system. The Board is of the view that the business risks from securities and most
other financial activities are manageable for banking organizations. However, we
must not forget a more subtle and corrosive risk. The federal safety net— deposit
insurance, the discount window, and access to Fedwire— creates moral hazard, risk of
loss to taxpayers, and— importantly— a competitive advantage over firms that do not
have safety net protection. That safety net reflects society’s need to reduce systemic
risk and its desire to protect small depositors, but the line at which that safety net is
drawn is important for minimizing moral hazard and maintaining both market discipline
and competitive markets. The Board continues to believe that the holding company
structure creates the best framework for limiting the transference of the subsidy
provided by the safety net. We have concluded that the further the separation of new
activities from the bank, the better the insulation. The present regulatory structure
supports this notion.

Another important principle is to preserve the dual banking system,
which has served the United States so well. The current federal regulatory structure
supports the dual banking system by linking the federal regulator to charter class. The

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dual system has facilitated diversity, inventiveness, and flexibility in American banking,
characteristics that are vital to a market economy subject to rapid change and
challenge. It has also provided a safety valve to protect against the potential for
inflexible federal and state positions. The most recent example is the evolution of
interstate banking, an evolution that was begun by the states in the m id-1970s, and
was well advanced by the time federal laws were revised. Such state actions also
provide arenas for limited experiments in financial reform, experiments that can
provide valuable insights for designing policies at the federal level. The Federal
Reserve Board believes that any actions taken by the Congress to change the federal
bank supervisory system must be designed in a way that preserves the vitality of the
dual banking system. In the supervisory process, the Federal Reserve and the FDIC
have already arranged in a large number of states extensive sharing arrangements
with state authorities, eliminating examination duplication.

In considering the need to revise the current regulatory structure, it is
important to clarify the nature of the concerns. The period of most vocal criticism of
the regulatory structure by banks was exactly the interval when those organizations
were suffering the most significant financial stress in more than 50 years. It is
understandable that clashes between those responsible for safety and soundness and
those experiencing financial reversals would result in criticism by each of the other. It
is instructive to note that as banking conditions improved, criticisms of supervisors and
the supervisory structure have receded. Nevertheless, the earlier period of conflict
exposed a number of inefficiencies in the current regulatory system. As I shall discuss
in a moment, the regulatory agencies have in particular attempted to address the
burden of regulatory overlap and to increase coordination of efforts, major concerns
highlighted in the late 1980s and early 1990s. However, before doing so, it is
important to clarify the dimensions of the existing overlap in bank supervision, and to

consider whether realignment of supervisory responsibilities would in fact reduce the
supervisory burden on depository institutions.

About 40 percent of bank and thrift organizations are subject to only one
federal regulator: the independent banks and thrifts and the holding companies
whose subsidiaries are state member banks. A significant proportion of the statistical
measure of multiple supervision among the remaining entities reflects the Federal
Reserve’s jurisdiction over holding company parents with national or state nonmember
bank and thrift subsidiaries. However, most holding company parents do not engage
in significant, if any, nonbank activity and these so-called “shell holding companies”
thus have always been subject to only minimal onsite supervision by the Federal
Reserve. If we remove the “shell holding companies” from the statistics, the
proportion of depository institutions supervised essentially by a single federal regulator
increases from about 40 percent to over 75 percent. Moreover, consolidated bank
holding company organizations generally have a quite small proportion of their

depository institutions’ assets supervised by an agency other than the one responsible
for their lead bank. In those remaining one-fourth of institutions with multiple
supervision (e.g., a holding company with a national bank subsidiary supervised by
the OCC, a state nonmember bank subsidiary supervised by the FDIC, a state
member bank supervised by the Fed, and an S&L supervised by the OTS), the
non-lead federal bank supervisors, taken together, oversee, on average, less than 10
percent of the consolidated institution’s banking and thrift assets.

The federal and state dual supervision of insured sta te - chartered banks
is another area of potential overlap, and is not included in the above statistics.
However, as I noted earlier, the FDIC and the Federal Reserve have worked out
arrangements with most states in which either the appropriate federal authorities join
the state supervisor in joint examinations, or conduct the examinations in alternate

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years. In such cases, Federal and state supervisors do not separately examine the
bank in the same year.

No matter how small the proportion of bank and thrift assets subject to
multiple supervision, every effort should be made to reduce the resultant burden on
depository organizations. Toward that end, the agencies have for many years divided
examination responsibilities so that only one federal agency examines a given
depository institution. In supervising a parent bank holding company, for example, the
Federal Reserve relies principally on the evaluation of subsidiary banks or thrifts by
that subsidiary’s primary supervisor and does not attempt to re-exam ine the bank or
thrift.

In evaluating credit risk, the principal risk to banks, the agencies have
long had procedures designed to enhance consistency and increase cooperation
across the agencies. For large, syndicated loans— those involving credits of more
than $20 million held by two or more banks— the agencies have the Shared National
Credits Program in which supervisors from all banking agencies agree annually on a
single evaluation that all examiners use whenever they encounter the credit.

This

program covers more than $700 billion of unused commercial loan commitments and
some $400 billion of outstanding commercial loans of the U.S. banking system. The
outstandings represent roughly one-third of all commercial loans booked in U.S.
offices of commercial banks, including the U.S. branches and agencies of foreign
banks. For many years, a similar process has also existed for evaluating the
so-called ‘transfer risk” inherent in loans to borrowers in foreign countries that are not
denominated in the borrower’s local currency. Once a rating is determined for a
specific country and for particular types of credit extensions to that country, examiners
of all agencies treat the credit uniformly.

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I do not mean to imply that there is no burden for those banking and thrift
organizations dealing with more than one supervisor. One area, in particular, that can
present difficulties in coordinating supervisory activities relates to larger and more
complex banking organizations. These institutions are often characterized by multiple
bank and nonbank subsidiaries that manage and control their consolidated activities
through risk management and operating policies and procedures developed and
monitored at the parent holding company level. Similarly, as bank activities and
management practices have evolved in recent decades, these large financial
institutions have structured their daily activities increasingly along product lines, with
less regard to legal entities. For example, many large banking organizations control,
hedge, and otherwise manage their investment securities and trading position across
all of the subsidiary bank and nonbank entities on a consolidated basis.

The banking agencies recognize that these trends in management
practices can increase the potential for overlapping supervisory efforts and have,
accordingly, sought to minimize the overlap that might occur. In June 1993, the
federal banking and thrift agencies adopted an interagency agreement under which
they would coordinate the timing, planning, and scope of examinations and holding
company inspections; conduct joint examinations or inspections, when necessary;
hold joint meetings with bank and bank holding company management related to
examination findings; and coordinate information requests and enforcement actions.
This agreement delineated the supervisory responsibilities of each agency regarding
particular entities within a consolidated organization. It also recognized that there are
legitimate situations when an agency other than an entity’s primary supervisor needs
to participate in examinations or inspections in order to fulfill its regulatory
responsibilities. While no panacea, it has helped to reduce the burden of multiple
supervisors on banking organizations.

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However, even if every banking and thrift organization were subject to
the jurisdiction of only one agency, some of the inherent overlap in examiner duties
would still occur simply because of the size and diversity of the institution’s activities.
The “overlap” would be less apparent to the institution because examiners would all
be from the same agency, and any differences in supervisory judgments would be
minimized. However, the number of inquiries and onsite visitations might not decline
materially.

Even with one supervisor per organization, different laws and regulations
apply to different elements of an institution, and its diverse activities often require
examiners to have specialized expertise. Reviewing the adherence of a parent
company to the provisions of the Bank Holding Company Act and its implementing
regulations requires different skills than are necessary in reviewing the trading
activities of a London subsidiary bank. More generally, at large organizations safety
and soundness examinations require a large number of individuals with special
expertise in such diverse areas as credit evaluations, with experts needed for each
type of credit market; securities trading; foreign exchange; risk management;
evaluation of credit and market risk models; and compliance with safety and
soundness laws and regulations, such as lending to affiliates and loans to one
borrower. To this list must be added specialty examinations for trust activities, CRA,
and data processing.

Scheduling, training, and coordinating the personnel to conduct these
varied activities throughout the organization and to communicate as necessary with
each other would still be a complex task under a single agency. Moreover, some
institutions— large and small— prefer that examiners not arrive simultaneously
because of the demands that would place on their resources.

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regulatory agency would still spread out its examinations over time, either because of
limitations of agency staff or because of the preferences of the institution.
Mr. Chairman, you asked about the Federal Financial Institutions
Examination Council, established by the Congress in 1979 to provide a facility through
which the agencies could address policy and operating differences, and thereby
reduce the costs of their activities to the supervised institutions and to the public. The
Council has been largely successful in this by providing a useful forum for both the
principals and the staffs to discuss issues of common concern. It has facilitated
consistency in regulations, accounting, and information collection. It has also devised
ways to lessen regulatory burden and has sponsored extensive training and education
for examiners and bankers. These are no small matters. However, candor requires
that I report that some substantive and complex issues have proven to be difficult to
resolve by the Council.
Outside of the Council framework, the three banking agencies have had
success in developing guidelines to coordinate the planning, timing, and scope of
examinations where multiple agencies are involved.

Efforts continue to carry such

guidelines further, particularly by working to implement the concept of unified
examinations pursuant to section 305 of the Riegle Community Development and
Regulatory Improvement Act of 1994. This legislation requires the federal ban king
agencies to implement a system by September 1996 that determines which one of
them shall be the “lead” agency responsible for managing a unified examination of
each banking organization.

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Conclusion
In conclusion, the U.S. banking system today is extremely healthy and
competitive in both its domestic and international operations. The degree of actual
multiple supervision of banking organizations is less than a cursory review of statistics
might suggest. In addition, federal bank supervisors, and the Congress, have made
substantial progress in recent years in improving our supervisory policies and
procedures for ensuring bank safety and soundness, and also in reducing regulatory
burden, reducing supervisory overlap, and improving the consistency of our rules and
regulations. While we can and should do more, and the agencies are working toward
such improvements, modifications and reforms should be evaluated against certain
principles. First among these is that changes in regulatory structure should follow and
not precede adjustments to the basic structure of our insured depository system and
the modernization of its activities. Choices made by the Congress on bank and thrift
structure and authorized powers should be fundamental determinants of the
regulatory structure. The Federal Reserve continues to encourage the Congress to
take legislative actions needed to further the evolution of our banking and financial
system.
I would be happy to answer any questions that you might have.
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