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by
DAVID P. EASTBURN
President, Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia

before the
INDIANA ECONOMIC FORUM
South Bend,

Indiana

October 28, 1971

Since August 15 business analysts have been giving the public
an especially concentrated treatment of psychoanalysis to ascertain how
it will behave under the new economic program.
fidence, has become all important.
contribution to this discussion.

That elusive state, con­

Today I should like to make my small
The essence of what I'm going to say

is that the state of confidence is reassuring in the short run, but dis­
turbing in the longer run.
Short run
The first reaction to the new economic program was a strong
resurgence of confidence.

This was testimony to the appeal of the pro­

gram, but also to the low ebb which confidence had reached before
August 15.
The general feeling was that things were out of control.

No

one could take the decisive action necessary to deal with the cumulative
spiral of inflation amid high unemployment.

The Government seemed unable

to deal effectively with inflation without making unemployment worse, or
to deal with unemployment without making inflation worse.

Business, with

profit margins lower than any time in the past 25 years, had to pass higher
wage costs along in the form of higher prices.

Union leaders felt obliged

to protect their members against the inroads of higher living costs.
Consumers could do little but complain about prices and tighten their
belts while watching friends and neighbors being laid off; unemployment
had become more than a statistic or a social phenomenon, it was coming
too close for comfort for too many people.




President Nixon's program reversed all this overnight.
question now is how long will confidence stay high.
that it has already receded somewhat.
seems to be pessimistic.
quite strong recently.

The

Some signs suggest

The stock market, for example,

On the other hand, the bond market has been
Different forces are probably at work in these

markets, and it may be that the only clue to the state of confidence is
telephone calls to business executives and conversations with taxi
drivers.

In both cases the prevailing mood seems to be one of watchful

uncertainty.
There is good reason to believe, however, that confidence should
be fairly high through at least the first half of next year.

Our pro­

jections assume a substantial degree of success of Phase II.

To a con­

siderable extent, therefore, the projections are predetermined by the
assumptions.

Nevertheless, these assumptions seem the right ones to

make, at least when looking at the first half of next year.

If Phase II

ultimately proves a big disappointment, this is not likely to become
obvious before June.
Consumer spending is virtually certain to rise fairly strongly
and the savings rate to come down.
more rapidly.

Business should be building inventory

Housing will continue to be strong.

governments will be spending heavily.
Productivity will be rising.

State and local

Profits should be increasing rapidly.

And despite some catch-up in wages and prices,

the rate of increase should be markedly slower than before the freeze.
To attach some numbers to all this, we see GNP rising at an
annual rate of around 10 per cent by midyear, with the price deflator
accounting for only one-third of this.
5-1/2 per cent.

If this kind of forecast materializes, there will be good

reason for sustained confidence.



Unemployment may decline to around

What
to predict.

will happen in the second half is, of course, much harder

Whatever cracks develop in Phase II— and everybody is already

busy looking for them— may be widening by then.
much, confidence will deteriorate.

If the public expects too

But if people can be-persuaded that a

moderate rate of price increase and unemployment in the 4-5 per cent range,
although not ideal, nevertheless represents progress, their confidence may
not suffer seriously.

Economists have pointed out many times that other

attempts with incomes policies are not reassuring.

I believe the effort

should be pursued aggressively, but I also think it is important not to be
unrealistic about the degree of success to expect of it.
The short-run outlook for confidence, therefore, seems quite
good.

An improved economy should help to sustain confidence and a con­

fident public should help to promote a better economy.
Longer run
In the longer run— and by this I'm thinking of the 70's— there
is some reason for concern.

One reason is that both inflation and un­

employment may be stubborn.

Inflationary pressures seem likely to recur,

basically because there are so many things society insists on doing with
its limited resources.

It wants further increases in material things for

more people plus a cleaner environment, better health, education and wel­
fare, more efficient transportation, and many other social goods and
services.

At the same time, with the economy becoming increasingly service

oriented, it may be hard to maintain high productivity--perhaps the most
potent single weapon against inflation.

Finally, big business and big

labor seem likely to be an institutional combination promoting continued
cost-push pressure.
As for unemployment, it is unlikely that the hard core will be
eliminated by the end of the decade.




The problem of training and educating

disadvantaged people to the point where they can become self-sufficient
and productive members of society is too difficult and time-consuming to
be completely solved by then.

In addition, unemployment among middle-

income, professional people may prove more than a temporary condition of
the recent recession.

There is a big surge of well-educated youth about

to come onto the labor market.

Many of them hope to find jobs in engi­

neering, teaching, economics, and the sciences.
frustrated.

Many of these may be

Others will put competitive pressure on middle-aged pro­

fessionals already haunted by obsolescence.
The feeling of helplessness that prevailed before August 15,
therefore, could recur and last for some time.

The possibility would be

enhanced if the current effort to deal with inflation and unemployment
proves to be disappointing.

And if this were to happen, an even more

serious sag in confidence could be nurtured from seeds that I think I can
detect even now.

I refer to a basic lack of confidence in the market-

oriented, competitive economic system which we have always thought to be
typically American.
Before I give examples of what I mean, let me say two things.
First, the attitude toward our economic system is only part of a mood
which some expect to prevail in the 70's.
may take the form of isolationism.
conservatism.

In international politics it

In domestic politics a turn toward

In social matters a reaction to the upheavals of the sixties.

And in economics a search for insulation and protection from competition.
Secondly, I recognize that much of the economic history of this
century consists of conscious effort to modify the harsh and extreme effects
of a free competitive system.

The progressive income tax, social security,

pure food and drugs, the family assistance program--you name it--all are
attempts on the part of society to achieve values which a free, competitive




system seemed unable to provide.

Also, I don't mean to give the impression

that the system is untouchable; society should modify it to make it perform
as desired; the economy is servant, not master.
Yet, if the great body of economics is at all correct, there is
something in the way the market system works that produces desirable results.
And despite the many modifications made to it in the past, we still have
essentially a market system.

What I'm concerned about in the longer run

is a tendency to lose confidence in that system.

Let me give two examples:

protection against foreign competition and attempts to peg interest rates.
Economists differ notoriously on many things, but they are in
solid agreement on the benefits of a system in which each nation concen­
trates on producing those things it can turn out most efficiently and
trading them competitively with other nations.

Unfortunately, the theory

always comes up against some very difficult obstacles, one of the most
formidable being that free competition can be uncomfortable.

The history

of foreign trade, therefore, is largely a record of various ingenious
efforts to protect against competition, relieved by rare and brief periods
of relaxation in barriers to trade.

One of these rare intervals has just

been completed, and we now may be in for a sustained period of protec­
tionism.
The 10 per cent surcharge on imports is only the most prominent
manifestation of a general protectionist movement.

Hopefully, the sur­

charge will be removed as soon as it serves its purpose as a bargaining
weapon in restructuring exchange rates.

Perhaps the new structure of

currencies will enable U.S. business to compete with greater confidence.
It seems just as likely, however, that various forms of protection will
proliferate.

In this respect, the recent stagflation may prove to have

had lasting effects.




Inflation made it more difficult for business to

compete abroad; unemployment made it more appealing to buy American.

If

a tendency toward inflation and unemployment is at all a plausible pre­
diction for the 70's, the drive for protection seems likely to continue.
As for interest rates, history tells us that very influential
people and groups have long wanted to keep them from fluctuating--at least
on the upside.

In recent years, Regulation Q has attempted to protect

savings institutions and smaller banks against interest rate competition.
I think it is now widely recognized that Regulation Q did not succeed in
channeling funds into mortgages, as intended.

Ceilings on rates paid for

specific kinds of liabilities or charged on specific kinds of assets simply
divert the business into uncontrolled channels.

I hope— but am not at

all certain— that this lesson will be given some heed in both the immediate
and longer-run future.
Most importantly, I think there is likely to be a lack of con­
fidence in the role which interest rates play in the economy and a lack
of willingness to let them play it.
other prices.

Interest rates are a price unlike

Because money occupies a pivotal position in the economy,

the price of money is also pivotal.
This is a lesson learned painfully in and after World War II.
Although to a number of you

this lesson is now only history (it is almost

exactly twenty years ago that slow and difficult steps were taken to re­
cover from it), it has special meaning as we look ahead.

For that ex­

perience demonstrated the impossibility of pegging interest rates and at
the same time maintaining a stable economy.

When the Federal Reserve

attempts to fight tendencies for rates to rise, it is obliged to pump in
new funds.

Eventually this creates inflation and the investing public

tries to protect itself by demanding still higher interest rates, calling,
in turn, for the injection of still more funds and leading to a self-defeating




cycle.
If we are to have a healthy economy in the 70's, we will need,
at times, rising— and perhaps quite high--interest rates.

If we lack the

confidence to permit interest rates to do their job in ai-Tocating funds,
if we lack confidence to let them respond to the exercise of monetary policy,
we are not likely to be able to deal with the conditions likely to prevail
in this decade.
Conclusion
The degree of confidence which prevails at the moment is based
on hope that extraordinary measures will bring stability and growth back
to the economy.

But this is a fragile kind of confidence because it is

also based on doubts about whether the free competitive economy can ever
again do the job we once thought it could do.

John Fischer writes in the

November Harpers that "the character of our whole society has changed so
drastically during the past decade or two that it no longer responds to
the so-called laws of economics....the competitive free enterprise system
apparently has gone dead on us."
The greatest danger we face is that each group will be trying
to insulate itself--labor by featherbedding, business by monopoly and
quotas against imports, and the public at large (through Government) by
a network of controls.

To coin one of those alliterative descriptions

of decades, we may be entering the Stifling Seventies.
It seems to me that the task of all those who claim some ex­
pertise in economics is to fight that tendency.

This will take ingenuity

and imagination because the economic system is^ changing; old solutions are
not sufficient.

But the competitive market system has worked well for us

in the past and we should not lose confidence in its potential for the
future.

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