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THE SHAPE OF FINANCIAL MARKETS INTO THE 1980’s:
SURVIVAL AMID CHANGE

by

David P. Eastburn,

President

Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia

before the

1972 Annual Conference
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MUTUAL SAVINGS BANKS

The Regency Hyatt House - Atlanta, Georgia
May 16, 1972

THE SHAPE OF FINANCIAL MARKETS INTO THE 1980fs:
SURVIVAL AMID CHANGE

by David P. Eastburn

I have been asked to tackle a most imaginative topic— at
least it took a great deal of imagination on someone’s part to think
that anything very specific could be said about the shape of finan­
cial markets ten to fifteen years from now.

Nevertheless, if we are

to plan effectively, we all need at times to stretch our imaginations
and take the long view.

The price for doing so is that we can be only

very speculative and impressionistic.
Let me begin this long view, therefore, by reminding you
that this year marks the 70 millionth anniversary (roughly speaking)
of the death of Tyrannosaurus rex, one of the most ferocious creatures
ever to roam the earth.

It marks the 10 thousandth anniversary (give

or take a couple of thousand years) of the death of Mastodon Americanus,
one of the largest mammals to make its home in the territory of the
United States.

And it marks the 156th anniversary of the birth of the

first mutual savings bank, a unique institution established— appropri­
ately enough— in Philadelphia.
Reasons for creating the savings bank are fairly clear, but
the exact causes of extinction of many animals are debated by authori­
ties.

In the past 11,000 years, more than twenty-four species of

mammals are said to have disappeared because of dramatic changes in
climate.




Others have fallen victim to predators, including Man.

Extinction of species has accelerated in our time.

Since

1600 A.D. , when there were over 4,000 species of living mammals in the
world, thirty-six have become extinct; of the more than 8,000 living
species of birds, ninety-four have disappeared.

Direct killing by man

for the sport of it is blamed for the Great Auk and the Passenger
pigeon.

In many other cases, extinction has come from changes man

brought about in the environment, such as destroying habitats by drain­
ing swamps and felling forests or by introducing foreign predators or
diseases.
Those of you who are optimistic at heart can take all this as
suggesting that savings banks, mere infants in the time dimensions I
have been speaking of, can look ahead to long and healthy lives.

Others

may find reason to worry that forces similar to those which have brought
an end to certain biological organisms also threaten certain financial
organisms.
These forces, of course, come with change and the accelerated
pace of change.

Until recently, change has been welcomed without much

question by the American people.

Today’s concerns about some of the

undesirable by-products of change are well-based and long overdue, but
I believe they will not and should not lead us to a status quo society.
Too many benefits flow from an environment of growth and from
the competitive market system that produces growth for us to abandon it
completely.

Redirect it, yes, but not abandon it.

People and institu­

tions, therefore, must look forward to more change and still faster
change.

They must be exploring the opportunities and risks of change.
There are many risks, but most of them fall into two cate­

gories.




The first is that change may make an individual or an institution

unneeded.

It is popular these days to speak about the fickleness of

consumers1 tastes and the wastefulness of "creative obsolescence."
Perhaps the future will bring greater stability in tastes and needs,
but I wouldn’t count on it.

Chances are good, in fact, that our

society will seek more and more diversity as it gets more and more
affluent.

Alvin Toffler makes a strong point of this in Future Shock.

People are likely to change their minds frequently about what they want
to consume and what they want to do.

These shifting demands could

create a great deal of uncertainty on the part of those who try to
anticipate and supply people’s wants.

Even now thousands of engineers

are paying in a very personal way the price of specialization in a
profession which for the time being, at least, has become less needed.
Too many other examples of unneeded people and unneeded institutions
can be called to mind to overlook this risk of change.
A second and closely related risk, one that spelled the doom
of so many species of animals, comes from an unfriendly environment.
It is hazardous, as I ’ve said, to try to predict the kind of environ­
ment in which we will be living in the future; but it can be fatal not
to.

I see an environment in which needs not only will be shifting but

in which they will be competing fiercely for limited resources.

Con­

sider the energy crisis, pollution, housing for a bulging population
of young adults, health and welfare needs for the poor and elderly,
education for the disadvantaged, rehabilitation of the cities— and on
and on.

These competing needs could put severe strains on real resources,

pushing up prices.
I say this with some awareness that those in the past who have
predicted chronic inflation or chronic stagnation have invariably been




proved wrong.

It is too simple to extrapolate indefinitely into the

future the kind of environment we are currently living in.

Neverthe­

less, it does seem to me that the mood of people has changed in recent
years in a very fundamental way.

The various groups in it— consumers,

minorities, the disadvantaged, developing countries— have become more
demanding and less patient about getting what they want.

I fail to

see anything coming along that will make them either more content or
less vociferous, or any more alert to the limitations of resources
available to satisfy all their desires.

So inflation seems to me a

more reasonable hypothesis than either stability or stagnation.
Pressures on real resources would be paralleled by pressures
on financial resources.

One consequence could be that interest rates

would be at historically high levels.

Unless the present attitude

toward interest rates on the part of many politicians and parts of the
public were to change markedly, however, it seems likely that efforts
would be made to hold interest rates down.

I hope that these efforts

would not go so far as to hinder the flexible use of monetary policy.
But even if not, they could lead to many kinds of nonprice rationing
of funds and attempts to direct funds into certain areas (like real
estate) by various means other than interest rates.

Although a realis­

tic view compels me to think that we should be exploring the best ways
of allocating funds*, I would hope that steps could be taken to make
financial markets work more flexibly and efficiently through interest
rates and competition.I

I have attempted to deal with this problem in "Federal Reserve Policy
and Social Priorities,n Business Review of Federal Reserve Bank of
Philadelphia, November 1970, pp. 2-8.




If persistent pressure on real and financial resources is the
likely environment of the future, the question confronting any institu­
tion is how to survive and prosper in it.
One way is to seek protection from outside.

The whooping

crane has barely survived against heavy odds because Government has
taken steps to protect it.

Many institutions have survived only because

they are protected by Government against change.

Since the trend has

clearly been in the direction of more rather than less Government inter­
vention in the economy, I suspect that this reaction to change will
become more prevalent.
But this solution presents numerous problems, not the least
of which is that it might not work.

A vivid case in point is your recent

experience with ceilings on interest rates.

Designed originally to pro­

tect thrift institutions in the competitive race for savings, the ceil­
ings actually helped to put them almost completely out of the running.
More importantly, this solution cumulatively and ultimately protects
against change by preventing it.

Although protection is necessary in

some cases, if carried too far it can destroy the elements of growth
which, as I ’ve said, are important to preserve for a healthy economy.
Because outside protection can be unreliable as well as
socially nonproductive, it is important for institutions to prepare
within themselves for change.

Many aspects of this preparation go

beyond the scope of our session this morning.

In large measure, they

involve a state of mind, a willingness to innovate and take chances, an
attitude of continual self-renewal.

Although you are doing a great deal

to promote this state of mind in savings banking— as witness these
sessions today— this is not exactly the image the public has had of you.




For purposes of our discussion, the most promising possibility
for dealing with change is diversification.

Diversification seems quite

compatible with the kind of environment we are moving toward.
thing has become more complex.

Every­

Clear lines of distinction have become

blurred; for example, we no longer can put physics, biology, and
chemistry or economics, sociology, and political science in watertight
compartments.

Many corporations span a wide diversity of fields.

Despite a desire by some to go back to a more simplistic world, I don’t
think there is any chance of this happening.
There is nothing very complicated about the idea of diversi­
fication.

The old saying about the concentration of eggs in a basket

describes it adequately.

If you can spread operations over wider geo­

graphical areas, you can help to stabilize income by reducing risks of
local adversity.

If you can buy additional assets like consumer loans,

you can help to balance out fluctuations in mortgage activity.

If you

can be free to issue longer-term debt at competitive interest rates,
you can help to smooth out your cash flow over periods of fluctuating
interest rates.

Diversification has many attractions, and the recommen­

dations of the Hunt Commission bring those attractions closer to your
grasp.
Without arguing against the principle of diversification,
however, I should point out that diversification, like change itself,
presents risks.

One is cost.

If the farmer has to hire expensive labor

and buy elaborate machinery to separate his eggs into various basket
configurations suggested by a highly paid analyst of the egg market, he
may think twice about diversification.
start-up costs.




Savings banks would run large

You would have to hire and train experts in consumer

credit.

You would incur higher costs in processing consumer loans and

checking accounts.

You would have more complex problems of management.

You would have to consider whether you are big enough to incur these
costs of diversification, and I suspect that some of you would decide
you are not.
This raises another problem.

Diversification may be so costly

that only the larger institutions can afford it, but diversification
might so reduce risks for these larger institutions that they would
become especially efficient.

The pressure would be on to seek these

economies of scale through branching and merging.

Then the supervisory

authorities would have to wrestle with the dilemma of encouraging effi­
ciency or discouraging a reduction in competition.

You may feel now

that laws and regulations make you operate with one hand tied behind
your back, but diversification could bring other restraints that could
prove equally frustrating.
Savings banks will have to weigh these benefits and costs of
diversification.
as a whole.
cult.

The net result should be positive— for the industry

The decision for individual banks will be much more diffi­

In the fiercely competitive environment contemplated by the Hunt

recommendations, some savings banks might for the first time confront
the question of survival.
I don’t want to overdraw the point.

There are many examples

to demonstrate that economies can come from specialization as well as
diversification.

Consumer finance companies have prospered in the face

of the incursion of commercial banks into the field of consumer lending.
Similarly, many savings institutions could play a continued role as
specialists in thrift and mortgages if they were to go about the job
imaginatively and aggressively.



Moreover, small size can be an

advantage in situations where flexibility and prompt adaptation to change
are required.

One of the troubles with the dinosaur was that he became

too big for his brain.
Nondiversified savings banks would still have to live in a
feast and famine environment, however.

Without the advantages of diver­

sification they would still find it difficult to compete for funds during
periods of tight money.
far to offset famines.

Recent experience suggests that feasts can go
The problem, however, could be that the future

may not be nicely divided into equal periods of tight and easy money.

If

I am at all correct in foreseeing an environment of rather persistent
pressure of needs on real and financial resources, savings banks might
have to adapt to frequent and prolonged conditions of famine.

The

challenge to the smaller, nondiversified institutions could be great
indeed.

And the urge to seek protection by Government might be irresisti­

ble.
Somebody with a more acute sense of politics than mine will
have to judge when the kinds of opportunities and risks I have been
talking about will become reality.

My intuitive sense of economics tells

me that major changes are inevitable in financial markets.

Sooner or

later they will expose the savings industry to new competitive forces.
You are welcoming this new exposure and you are wise to do so, if only
because the only other course is isolation and that can mean extinction.
I wish you good luck.
will be well prepared.

5/15/72



I hope that when the next Ice Age arrives you