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TESTIMONY OF

CHARLES V. COLLIER
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
OFFICE OF ANALYSIS AND SPECIAL ACTIVITIES
DIVISION OF SUPERVISION
FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION

ON

MONEY LAUNDERING
BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS SUPERVISION,
REGULATION AND INSURANCE
COMMITTEE ON BANKING, FINANCE AND URBAN AFFAIRS
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES




10:00 AM
MARCH 8, 1990
Room 2128, Rayburn House Office Building

Good morning Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee.
Thank you for the opportunity to present the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation's views on pending legislation to further
curb the practice of money laundering. The FDIC strongly
supports the fight to curtail money laundering activities and
related crimes. Money laundering is a serious crime against
society, and we believe it should be prosecuted to the full
extent of the law.
Before addressing the pending bills, we will explain briefly to
the Subcommittee how the FDIC identifies money laundering in the
banks under its supervision and what actions we take to refer
that activity for criminal or civil prosecution.
As the primary regulator of state nonmember banks, the FDIC
generally discovers possible money laundering activity in these
banks either through FDIC examinations or through the Reports of
Apparent Crime that the banks are required.to submit under our
regulations. Our current instructions for these Reports require
banks to submit them to the Internal Revenue Service's Criminal
Investigation Division at the same time they send them to us.
The IRS is responsible for evaluating the reports and actually
determining whether a civil action or a criminal investigation
is appropriate under the circumstances. If the IRS decides to
conduct a criminal investigation, it frequently calls upon the
FDIC to assist in cases involving insured nonmember banks and
their directors, officers and employees.
In most instances, the FDIC also sends copies of the Reports of
Apparent Crime to Treasury's Office of Financial Enforcement.
During 1989, the FDIC forwarded 248 such Reports involving
suspicious currency transactions to the Office of Financial
Enforcement. The purpose of forwarding the Reports is to enable
Treasury to keep track of criminal referrals and to get more
involved in an investigation if necessary.
The FDIC has no authority to pursue criminal actions against
banks or individuals who violate the Bank Secrecy Act. FDIC
regulations in the money laundering area focus on ensuring that
state nonmember banks adopt and maintain adequate procedures to
enable them to comply with the Bank Secrecy Act. Banks that
fail to comply with the FDIC's regulations can be subjected to
formal cease and desist actions and civil money penalties for
those violations. To date, the mere threat of formal action by
the FDIC has been sufficient to persuade banks that are not in
complete compliance to comply fully with our regulations.




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Mr. Chairman, we agree with the underlying assumption of your
legislation — namely, that financial institution regulators,
including the FDIC, could benefit from a grant of more explicit
authority to deal with institutions and individuals involved in
money laundering. We have several recommendations that we
believe would strengthen the FDIC's ability to deal with banks
and bank employees who are implicated in money laundering
schemes. First, conviction of money laundering offenses could
be added as a criterion for termination of deposit insurance.
The exercise of this authority, however, must be within the
discretion of the FDIC. As more fully described below,
automatic termination could have dire results for depositors and
the deposit insurance fund. Second, enhanced authorities should
target those actually guilty of money laundering offenses by
making it clear that money laundering convictions will lead to
removal of the responsible individuals. The FDIC also would
support permanently barring individuals convicted of money
laundering offenses from participation in the affairs of all
federally insured institutions.
H.R. 3848
H.R. 3848 would require the appropriate Federal depository
institution regulator to revoke the charter of any Federal
depository institution that is found guilty of a crime involving
money laundering or that commits monetary transaction report
offenses. In addition, it would require the FDIC to terminate
the deposit insurance of any State depository institution found
guilty of such crimes or offenses.
As proposed, H.R. 3848 does not appear to allow any discretion
on the part of the regulators. The bill suggests that a bank or
thrift charter could be revoked or federal deposit insurance
terminated for actions that are often under the control of
tellers and clerical employees and for inadvertent violations of
the complicated laws and regulations governing monetary
transaction reporting.
Charter revocation and termination of federal deposit insurance
should be used only in the most egregious cases involving
corruption of senior management or blatant disregard of the law
by the institution. Termination of federal deposit insurance is
a drastic measure that requires a careful analysis of each
particular case. It should not be used as a standard punishment
for crimes which are committed by employees who do not
participate in the management of the institution.
The absence of discretion with regard to deposit insurance
termination and charter revocation could have very negative
consequences for bank depositors and other customers. An
indictment for money laundering offenses may be sufficient to
cause the demise of the institution when depositors become aware
that they could lose their federal deposit insurance upon
conviction of the institution. Even rumors of a money




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laundering investigation at a bank could unduly alarm some
customers and cause a run on the bank, even if the rumor were
totally unfounded. Either event could trigger insolvency of the
bank and require assistance or payoff by the FDIC.
Additionally, consumers could lose banking services entirely if
a bank found guilty of a money laundering offense were located
in a community in which it were the only depository
institution. In fact, the bill's greatest impact would appear
to be on innocent customers and shareholders. They could be
punished because of the misdeeds of a few bank officers or
employees. The depositors could lose their banking services,
and possibly part of their life savings, and the shareholders
could lose their investments.
The FDIC is charged with the protection of depositors' funds.
Therefore, we believe that we should participate in any decision
to terminate the rights of those depositors. FDIC discretion in
the revocation of deposit insurance would allow us to better
prepare, and arrange for, an orderly liquidation of the guilty
institution and to preserve federal deposit insurance coverage
for innocent customers.
The bill's provisions requiring termination of insurance of
State-chartered banks and thrifts appears not to require the
FDIC to comply with the notice requirements of section 8(a) of
the Federal Deposit Insurance Act with respect to an involuntary
termination of insurance. That section provides for the
insurance of existing deposits for at least six months and up to
two years from the effective date of the termination of
insurance action. The provision is designed to protect
institutions' depositors and give them time to find alternative
banking services.
Mandatory charter revocation and insurance termination
provisions also may prove self-defeating by decreasing
incentives for voluntary reporting of suspicious activities and
transactions. The fear of losing a charter or federal deposit
insurance may cause some to hesitate to draw attention to any
suspicious currency transaction activity in their institutions.
The disincentive to report possible offenses is only increased
by the fear of deposit runs on the institution should the public
discover that a bank is being investigated for possible money
laundering activity.
Banks and thrifts are unlikely to plead guilty to or settle
money laundering offenses knowing that their deposit insurance
will be revoked or their charter terminated immediately. Some
institutions have agreed to guilty pleas and settlements with
the government because of the desire to avoid lengthy and costly
litigation. If their charters or deposit insurance will be
revoked, they will litigate even the most minor charges and use
every avenue to prolong the litigation.




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The reluctance to plead guilty or settle will occur irrespective
of the nature or magnitude of the offense because H.R. 3848 does
not seem to distinguish among different types of "money
laundering” offenses. The same dire consequences result for
currency transaction reporting violations — whether intentional
or inadvertent — that result for actual money laundering. All
banks and thrifts found guilty of any type of money laundering
offense, regardless of the scope or magnitude of the offense,
would be subject to the same punishment — charter revocation or
insurance termination. This result is inconsistent with
punishment guidelines for most other crimes, where.judges are
given discretion to fashion an appropriate sentence. Further,
the ultimate decision to prosecute a bank for money laundering
offenses (and, thus, close the institution or terminate its
deposit insurance) would be made by the United States Attorney's
Office.
Any bank found guilty of a money laundering offense would surely
appeal that verdict. Regardless of a bank's right to appeal,
however, the end result may be the same. Upon the initial
announcement of a guilty verdict, depositors' fears of losing
federal deposit insurance would likely spur substantial deposit
withdrawals. Heavy demands on the bank's resources could
seriously weaken it, requiring FDIC assistance. Further, a
merger or purchase and assumption transaction would be unlikely
— given the uncertainty of the outcome of the appeal and a
recent court decision holding successor banks liable for the
criminal acts of their predecessors.
Rather than revoke a bank's charter or terminate deposit
insurance, we think it far preferable to focus attention on the
individuals in the institution who actually commit the
offenses. Existing law already provides substantial penalties
for those convicted of money laundering offenses, including
forfeiture of assets, substantial fines and lengthy prison
sentences. Earlier, we described some additional measures that
could enhance the regulators' ability to punish money laundering
offenders. We would support the adoption of such provisions.
We strongly support the government's fight to end drug
trafficking and money laundering. However, the automatic
revocation of deposit insurance for the misdeeds of a few people
is potentially far too costly for depositors and the FDIC. We
believe it would be more fair and effective to convict and
punish the guilty individuals involved and permanently ban them
from employment in federally insured depository institutions.
H.R. 3939
Congressman Saxton's bill encourages States to establish uniform
licensing and regulation of check cashing services, money order
issuers, and other non-bank money transmitters for the purpose




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of preventing money laundering and protecting the payment
system. It also requires the Secretary of the Treasury to
conduct a study and make appropriate recommendations on such
efforts. The FDIC believes that these non-bank entities should
be subjected to an effective regulatory scheme. H.R. 3939 is
certainly an appropriate step in achieving that objective.
H.R. 4064
H.R. 4064, introduced by Congressman Torres, would amend the
financial recordkeeping provisions of the Bank Secrecy Act to
modify and codify recordkeeping requirements relating to
international wire transfers.
The proposed legislation appears to follow closely Treasury's
Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to which the FDIC
responded in December, 1989. In our response, we agreed that
more complete information could be required in connection with
international wire transfer requests, particularly for requests
by noncustomers. Specific customer identification could be
required to be kept on file for regular customers while special
requirements could be placed on transactions requested by
noncustomers.
Much of the information that would be mandated under the
proposed legislation is already captured by many banks.
However, it should be noted that international wire transfer
information is not uniform. In many cases, the name of the
originator and. the owner of the account charged for the wire
transfer, as well as the name of the recipient and the owner of
the account credited, are omitted. Account numbers are
sometimes the only account identification used. This is
particularly true when wire transfers originate or terminate in
a foreign bank. This enables many originators and recipients to
remain unidentified to U.S. authorities who may be conducting an
investigation into the source or disposition of suspected money
laundering. We would not oppose legislation which would
standardize international wire transfer information, as long as
the requirements would not disrupt legitimate international
commerce or create a competitive disadvantage for U.S. banks.
H.R. 4044
H.R. 4044, introduced by Chairman Gonzalez would do several
things to enhance the capability of law enforcement authorities
to detect money laundering offenses. The proposed legislation
would give discretionary authority to the Secretary of the
Treasury to require non-depository financial institutions, such
as check cashing services, to furnish to the depository
institution copies of any currency transaction reports filed by
the non-depository financial institution that relate to a
reportable transaction being conducted by the two institutions.
If the depository institution did not receive a copy of the




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report when required, it would notify the Secretary of the
Treasury that the non-depository financial institution failed to
provide a copy of the report.
The bill includes provisions similar to those in H.R. 3939 and
H.R. 4064. As previously indicated, we generally support these
provisions.
The legislation would clarify the Secretary of the Treasury's
authority relating to the confidentiality of targeting orders.
We support this proposal since public disclosure of this
information could possibly start unfounded rumors and unduly
alarm bank customers. Disclosure of the targeting orders also
could defeat the purpose of the orders by alerting money
launderers to avoid particular institutions.
H.R. 4044 also would require the Federal Reserve Board to
prepare analyses of currency surplus reports at the request of
the Attorney General. The Federal Reserve Board already makes
this type of information available to the U.S. Customs Service
which uses that information to identify areas of the country
where currency surpluses and currency flows are not consistent
with the volume of Currency Transaction Reports filed with the
IRS. The Customs Service provides copies of its studies to the
FDIC, which targets those areas for special Bank Secrecy Act
compliance reviews.
In addition, H.R. 4044 would require the Secretary of the
Treasury to submit reports to the Congress containing
information on the uses of Currency Transaction Reports. We
believe such reports would be beneficial, as there is some
question as to how useful CTR's are in the detection,
investigation and prosecution of money laundering offenses. If
it can be proven that currency transaction reporting is an
effective tool in curbing money laundering, there would be
increased support for the reporting and recordkeeping burdens.
Finally, the proposed legislation would require the Comptroller
General of the United States to conduct a study of the Financial
Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCEN). We periodically receive
data from FINCEN concerning unusual currency flows affecting
state nonmember banks, which we then forward to the appropriate
FDIC Regional Office for follow-up by examiners. We also use
FINCEN as a source for conducting routine background checks on
individuals who have requested FDIC approval of certain
applications, such as for deposit insurance or for a change of
bank control. Currently, FDIC only uses FINCEN to determine
whether or not the subjects of our background checks have been
investigated, indicted, or convicted of Bank Secrecy Act
violations.
The FDIC welcomes any efforts by federal law enforcement
agencies and others to identify individuals who have committed




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criminal acts against federally insured financial institutions
and to make that information available to the appropriate
regulatory agency. Section 19 of the Federal Deposit Insurance
Act bars many of those individuals from any future participation
in the affairs of a federally insured depository institution?
however, it is sometimes difficult to identify those individuals
in a timely manner. A centralized system of information
concerning financial crimes would go a long way toward speeding
up this process.
Conclusion
In conclusion, the FDIC fully supports the government's war on
money laundering and related crimes. We are committed to
working with this Subcommittee to fashion meaningful and
effective solutions to the money laundering problem.