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FILE COPY - LIBRARY AMENDING THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT SPEECH OK HON. CARTER OF- GLASS V I R G I N I A IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES JUNE 14, 1917 ( ,->.0 -'J /JO'; WASHINGTON GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE n oo—17003 1917 ) -r,. S P E E C II II 0 N . C A R T E 11 G L A S S . The H o u s e h a d u n d e r c o n s i d e r a t i o n t l ^ c o i i f o n M H - o r o p o r t on t t e b i l l ( I I . I{. :S(i7.i) to a m e n d the act a p p r o v e d December J . ! , l l i l . i I t n o M an t h e Federal reserve a c t . as a m e n d e d by I lie acts of A u g u s t 4, 1.(14, A u g u s t 1">, 11)14, M a r c h ::, 1!»1">. a i u l S e p t e m b e r 1010. Mr. GLASS. Mr. Speaker The SL'EAKER. The gentleman from Virginin [Mr. OLASSJ is recognized for 20 minutes. Mr. GORDON. May I interrupt the gentleman before he starts? [Laughter.] , . ,, Mr GLASS. 1 will be pleased to be interrupted by the gentleman before I start, because after I start I shaR ask not to be interrupted at all. . „ Mr GORDON. I wish to direct the attention of the gentleman to the remarks of the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. MCFADDKN] The whole burden of his plea was in behalf of these small country banks that are not in the Federal Reserve System To what extent has this Congress power, in amending the Federal reserve law. to affect at till legally the banks not in the Federal Reserve System? _ . Mr. GLASS. The gentleman knows possibly better than l tnat the Congress has not one particle of power to regulate the banks that are not in the Federal Reserve System. Nonmember banks, which are State banks, are not directly affected by this legislation. They are concerned in this legislation only by reason of the competition incident to a collection system which the Federal Reserve Board has established. That is to say, if member banks refrain from making charges for paying and collecting checks, and State banks persist in exacting this toll, business men will prefer to keep their accounts with the banks that do not charge; hence nonmember banks would like to have member banks authorized by law to make these charges. .Air. S W I T Z E R . Will the gentleman yield for just one question? Mr. GLASS. I can not yield any more. Mr S W I T Z E R . I would like to ask a question. Does your amendment permit, or does it allow, the Federal Reserve Board to give authority to a bank to make a charge for this collection? Mr. GLASS. To make a " reasonable " charge; yes. Mr. SWITZEH. With the argument made here that there should not be such a charge made, why do you recognize it? Mr GLASS. Because the managers on the part of the House were instructed to do it. That is till the reason for i t ; but for that instruction the conferees would have authorized no charge at all. , , Mr. S W I T Z E R . You do not intend to allow anybody to assert that privilege? 4 / , . 2 J i. <h UJ o [ ( ] 1100—17093 3 Mr. GLASS. I hope not and believe not. That is precisely why we propose these modifications of the so-called Ilardwick amendment. We do not want the hanks to determine whether the charge is " reasonable," it" made at all, or what the amount shall be when made. We want the Federal Reserve Hoard to regulate these questions strictly—to say in what circumstances it is reasonable to charge and what amount shall be charged. Mr. Speaker, as to the ethics involved in this legislative procedure, especially with reference to the appointment of the managers on the part of ihe House, I want to say that the chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency followed the usual procedure. When the conference was asked lie conferred with the senior Republican member of the House committee, the gentleman from California [Mr. HAYES]. That gentleman was ill at his homo in Washington, and notified me over the 'phone that lie would be unable to act and readily acquiesced in a suggestion that I designate Mr. PLATT, of New York, as a Republican manager on the part of the House. As a matter of fact, I momentarily assumed that Mr. PI.ATT was the next ranking member of the Banking and Currency Commit tee. Mr. MONDELL. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. GLASS. I will not. I say I momentarily supposed that Mr. PI.ATT, of New York, was the next ranking member, and I handed his name to the Speaker as one of the conferees. This I explained in detail to the gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. IIAIUUSON] some days ago and wont in person and apologized to my colleague, the gentleman from Iowa [Mr. WOODS], who accepted the explanation. With that statement I will leave it to the House to determine just exactly how fair and precisely how frank the gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. HARRISON] was in his statement of the Incident to the House to-day. [Applause.] I prefer not to believe, and yet I candidly suspect, that my colleague from Pennsylvania [Mr. MCFADDKN] was fully aware of the fact T have just stated, and the House may thus judge of the frankness of his criticism also. I may add that had the senior Republican member of the Committee on Banking and Currency [Mr. ILVYES] been In good health lie would have been one of the conferees and would have stood unyieldingly with the chairman of the committee in resisting the attempt, by a Senate " rider," to impose this tax on the commerce of the country. [Applause.] Therefore, the effort to make it seem that some advantage was sought or obtained in the designation of the House managers Is manifestly a quibble, designed to shift the issue from one of fact to one of resentment. As to the talk about " the lobby that has beset this House " and the " round robins" that have disturbed the membership, the only lobby we have had was the committee of 25 bankers which settled down in Washington soon after Congress convened, with headquarters at the Willard Hotel. This bankers' committee, dining and wining the proponents of this proposition, sought to influence the a*£ion of the House by as thoroughly organized a propaganda as was evel- known in legislative annals. [Applause.] This committee was in ceaseless communication with the banks of the country and had Congress flooded with letters and telegrams. 1100—17(393 m- 9 4 The only word of hearing upon this proposition' to delegate the power of taxation to banks by a Federal statute was secured by a transparent trick. Letter after letter and wire after wire came to the chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency from the business men of the United States asking to be heard against this proposition. My invariable answer was that the proposition was not germane to the amendments that were being considered and that, therefore, there would be no committee hearings on the bill (H. It. 3G7.'?). Hut under the pretense of wanting to be heard upon the major provisions of IL U. oG7:5, a subcommittee of this committee of 25 bankers was presented to the Committee on Banking and Currency. These bankers spent about two minutes talking about the real provisions of this bill and nearly two hours discussing this check paying and collection charge " r i d e r " which had been proposed by their committee. Thus, the only hearing had on the subject was obtained in the way I have indicated by this famous "committee of 25." without opportunity to the business men of the United States to be heard in rebuttal. There has been no lobby so far as the opponents of this measure are concerned. Naturally the whole business community of the United States, except a small group of bankers, is opposed to this proposition to authorize certain banks, by law, to tax commerce. It required no lobby; it required only a sense of justice and a comprehension of the injustice that was sought to be perpetrated by this Ilardwick amendment. It is pretended that only the mail-order houses and jobbers oppose the scheme. 1 hold in my hand a resolution adopted by the Farmers' Educational and Cooperative Union of America, which says: We the National Convention of the Farmers' Educational and Cooperative Union of America, assembled In Paiatka, Fla., earnestly and strongly protest against any change in the Federal reserve act with reference to charges on collections on checks and drafts. I have here also the resolution of the National Orange of the United States, representing more than one million farmers, which says: Whereas it has come to the knowledge of the National Grange that a concerted effort will he made this winter to have Congress amend the Federal reserve act so as to restore to certain banks throughout the country the privilege of indiscriminate taxation taken from them by the system of check collection established by the Federal Keserve Board in pursuance of the act of December 23, 11)13. Therefore lie it resolved bv the National Orange that we protest against the proposed change of the law and that Congress be, and hereby Is earnestly petitioned by this body in behalf of the farmers of the United States to disregard Ibis organized attempt to so alter the Fed era I reserve act as to enable certain banks to exact unjust tolls from the commerce and industry of the country, DO per cent of which business is transacted by drafts and checks rather than by the use of currency. I have here a dispatch, dated at Peach Bottom, l'u.. May 19, from J. A. McSparran, one of the most intelligent and patriotic farmers in the United States, chairman of the legislative committee of the National Grange, in which he says: BANKING AND Ccnr.BNcr COMMITTER, llousc of Representatives, Washington, D. C. In the name of the National Grange we desire to protest against the adoption of the Ilardwick amendment to the reserve act. which gives to the banks of the country the right to levy an unjust tax on the checks of the entire business community of the United States, lhe 1 LOO—17G93 5 N a t i o n a l Grange, representing 1,000,000 organized farmers, passed resolutions protesting a g a i n s t this form of extortion. " Oh," they say, " only the jobbing houses of the United States are opposed to the Ilanlwick amendinent." That is not the fact, as I have already indicated, Mr. Speaker, lint suppose it were true. Is there any reason why the men, who have millions of dollars invested in that branch of commerce, should not have their side of a controversy heard here? True, they have not given any dinners to anybody. They have not wined or dined anybody. lint have they not a right to be heard? Suppose it were true that only the jobbers of the country were opposed to tins form of special taxation. Let us see if. numerically, they do not overwhelmingly overtop the banks, even if all the banks were in favor of the proposition. There were in the United States, according to the census returns of 190!), 51,048 jobbing houses. There are but 7,500 member banks of the Federal reserve system, all told. The more progressive of these are opposed to this Ilanlwick amendment. Hut if all were in favor of it, and the jobbers only opposed, there are 51,048 jobbing houses against the 7,500 banks. But. Mr. Speaker, I have here on the table resolutions from the retail merchants' associations in every line of activity in this country, from the National Association of Retail Hardware Merchants, from the National Association of Retail Grocery Merchants, from the National Association of Retail Dry Goods Merchants, from the national associations of nearly every line of commerce in the United States, opposing this tax. The National Association of Credit Men, representing a body with an actual membership of 25,000 in every line of trade conceivable, has gone on record time and time again in opposition to this unjust species of taxation. Nearly all the manufacturing associations of the United States have presented resolutions against this proposition. There are more jobbing houses in the single State of Illinois opposed to this proposition than there are member banks in the United States in favor of it. There are as many jobbing houses in the State of Massachusetts opposed to the 1 lard wick amendment :is there are member banks in the entire United States in favor of it. There are three times as many jobbers and retail merchants and manufacturing establishments—not to mention farmers—in the State of Mississippi opposed to this Ilanlwick amendment as there are member 1 anks in the United States in favor of it. Take the State of Pennsylvania, the State of the gentleman who proposes this recommittal [Mr. MCFAUDKN], and there are 4,783 jobbing houses—more jobbing houses in Pennsylvania opposed to this unjust tax than there are member banks in the United States in favor of it. There are in Pennsylvania 107,134 retail merchants, every one opposed to this form of taxation. The opposition to it is so overwhelming that I offered a colleague my entire yearns salary as a Representative in Congress if he could produce a*telegram or a letter from any living sonl in favor of it unless from a banker. [Applause.] Then they talk about an "anonymous propaganda." Perhaps I have a misconception of what an " a n o n y m o u s " thing is. This circular, which is exhibited here presenting reasons why this form of delegated taxation should not be sanctioned, ex1100—17003 G pressly states that tho fjcrouj^ issuing it included tlie official representatives of tlie Button Manufacturers' Association of tlie United States, the National Association of Clothiers, the National Association of Credit Men, the National Association of Hosiery and Underwear Manufacturers, tlie National Glass Distributers' Association, the National Hardware Association, the National Retail Dry Goods Association, the National Shoe Wholesalers' Association, the National Dry Goods Association, the National Wholesale Jewelers' Association, the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce, and the Southern Wholesale Grocers Association. It Rives the names of the gentlemen who prepared and issued this " a n o n y m o u s " circular. In addition to that, boards of trade and chambers of commerce from one end of this country to the other have passed resolutions against this rake-off. Nobody is for it except this group of bankers represented by this committee of lobbyists that took up its headquarters weeks ago at the Willard Hotel. [Applause.] I present to the House for its discriminating judgment a tabulated statement of three classes of business concerns opposed to this legislation in contrast with the number of banks in the Federal Reserve System directly affected by this amendment. It will be noted that this statement does not take account of the millions of farmers and professional men who are in opposition, but merely enumerates three classes whose representative bodies have declared their antagonism to this check paying and collection charge scheme. It must also be considered that not one-third of these banks exact these charges from the business men of the country, and. therefore, that the fewest number of them would care to see the collection system established by the Federal Reserve Hoard wrecked, as inevitablv it would be should this Senate " rider" prevail. Manufac turcrs. Alabama Arizona Arkansiis California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire— Now Jersey Now Moxico HOG—17(i0:} 3,242 322 2,(104 10,057 2,120 4,104 80S 2, "»1S 4,039 098 18,3*8 8,022 5,014 3,130 4,184 2,211 3,378 4,797 12,013 8,724 5,974. 2.209 8,380 939 2,492 180 1,730 9,742 308 Jobbers. 475 00 300 2,174 509 395 77 375 829 74 3.420 985 831 505 800 088 302 1,013 3,275 1,308 990 238 1,047 129 447 41 177 2,035 80 Retailers. 15,3S3 2, 407 12,471 47,097 12,103 10,824 2,906 8,220 20,040 4.l''>2 SO, .508 33,330 29,337 21,209 21,477 10,899 10,354 20,244 48,701 35,448 25,099 11,513 43,413 4,097 15,527 1,497 5,307 44,189 2,941 Member banks. 90 12 00 204 121 70 24 54 102 59 409 250 319 223 133 33 00 95 151 10ft 287 35 131 82 191 10 50 203 37 7 Manufac- Jobbers, i Retailers. Grand total... ISO,151 14,912 84'i 64, SOT) 18,565 10,433 107,134 8,208 9,237 7,461 19,878 13,362 4,154 4,208 18,845 17,137 10,266 26,321 1,530 5,926 675 SI 157 371 335 51,048 1,169,592 ,571 10,860 ;,9S 76 New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Caro'ina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming District of Columbia 2, doe 436 381 •1,7K3 337 288 IIS 863 1,150 185 119 758 629 392 9X5 21 211 275, 791 Member banks. SO 831 17 76 125 112 531 24 4S 144 115 140 30 14 Now, Mr. Speaker, I want the House to understand how it was sharply misled upon this question. There was not a word of debate. There was tint one word of explanation of this Hardwick amendment prior to the adoption of the motion to instruct the House managers. The whole event was sudden and surprising. Mr. THOMAS. I just want to know about that wining and dining. I have not seen any of it, and I should like to get there, f Laughter. | Mr. GLASS. I am surprised that the gentleman was not invited. He should indicate his indignation by voting against this proposition. Mr. THOMAS. I am going to look into this proposition. Mr. GLASS. Mr. Speaker, 1 must decline to yield further. Mr. THOMAS. The gentleman has got to yield The S P E A K E R . The gentleman from Virginia declines to yield. Mr. THOMAS. The gentleman has got to yield. I am with him on thi>> | Laughter.! Mr. GLASS. No Member of the House should permit himself to be troubled by any consideration of consistency, because not a word of debate or explanation was had on this Hardwick amendment. A similar " r i d e r " was proposed in the House and thrown out on a point of order its not germane; and it is not germane. It is a legislative thorn in the llesh. It is utterly incongruous. considered with respect to this great and momentous legislation proposed here for the advantage of commerce and industry and to help the banking business of the United States better to meet impending didiculties. Not only was there no explanation of this "rider," but, on the contrary, when the vote was being taken, gentlemen who now are very critical about the ethics of the case, affecting great concern for the proprieties, stood at the door and told Members as they came in, " O u r vote is ' aye.' " as if there were some party division. More than a score of Members have come to me in person, or have told me over the telephone, that they were misled into voting far the amendment, 1100—17603 8 nrnl that they were utterly opposed to it and that their constituents were utterly opposed to It. I do not want to be unpleasant. It is too easy, under provocation, ty he unpleasant and too hard U> he agreeable; but I do feel some degree of resentment, In the circumstances, at the criticism of the gentlyman from Mississippi [Mr. H A R K I S O N ] and my colleague of the committee from Pennsylvania [Mr. M C F A D D K N J about the ethics of this case, and their talk about a lobby. Now, Mr. Speaker, a word as to the merits of this proposition. From what source does a bank, whether it is a country bank or a city bank, derive its revenue? From its capital? Why, in the rarest instances. A bank that is prosperous enough to pay a dividend merely by the use of its own capital would be a wonder. Then, how do banks manage to pay dividends? Why, by loaning out the money of their depositors at interest, and some of them at too high a rate of interest, particularly in the territory of the gentlemen who are advocating this check-paying amendment. [Applause.] They derive their profits from loaning out the deposits of their patrons; and anybody familiar with banking processes knows that banks ordinarily require their patrons to keep a certain " l i n e " of deposits to pay for trouble and expense in handling their accounts. I have here a written statement of one of the leading bank examiners of the United States saying that both city and country banks, as a rule, insist that the borrower, who in nine cases our of ten is a depositor, shall maintain an average balance of 20 per cent. In other words, if you are a business man and want to borrow .$10,000 from your bank with which to conduct your business, the hank does not actually let you have $10,000. On an average It lets you have $8,000, and requires you to leave the other .S'2,000 there to be loaned to some other business man at a profitable rate of Interest. In this way and by other legitimate devices hanks derive their revenue from interest on money loaned them by thair patrons. There are few well-conducted banks, either country or city banks, that would care to have the business of any merchant who did not keep a line of deposit with it .sufficient to far more than cover all costs and trouble of the account of that business house. The gentleman from New York [Mr. IIUSTKD], a banker himself, has stated that last year all the banks, country as well as city, made a greater profit than they had made In an average of -17 years before, and they do not need this form of graft. [Applause.] The banks have the use of their patrons' money, and it is vastly less expensive to remit on balances than it would be to pay funds actually across the counter. Pending the dispatch and return of checks, the accounts on which they are drawn are available to the banks in the discount operations, and from these accounts the banks derive more profit than is involved in the proposed charge of one-tenth of 1 per cent on out-of-town checks. As for having to " s h i p funds," that is a myth largely—a figure of speech. The Federal reserve banks explicitly agree to pay all cost of shipping currency, so no charge for that can be assessed against any remitting bank. It is idle to inter that the obligation of banks to business men is not as distinctive or as great as that of business men to banks. The accommodation is leciprocal; and, with the vast majority of banks, the deposits of their patrons are accepted with no other purpose than to pay checks at their face value. There 1100—1701)3 9 never was any statutory sanction for anything else; but under specious and illusive pleas of compensation for "constructive interest " loss, and for the expense of "shipping currency to distant points," and for "service rendered in transferring credits," the practice of deducting charges, varying from one-tenth of 1 per cent to 1 per cent in some cases, became firmly established in some sections, ft got to be not only a burden, but an abuse—in many instances a scandal—which the more progressive business communities of the country long since refused to tolerate. None of the banks of the New England group exacts these charges; few of (he Eastern group make the charge; the practice in the Middle West has been greatly abated; the abuse persists in its flagrant form chiefly in parts of the South and the far West. It should be stopped everywhere; and the par collection system institued by the Federal Reserve Board will put an end' to it ultimately, if not tampered with by vicious legislative interference, such as this Hardwiek amendment in its original draft proposes. Bank notes issued under authority of the national bank act signifying the indebtedness of the bank to the holder are required by law to be received everywhere sit par. Why should not a merchant's check on his deposit account, duly "indorsed by a responsible person or concern, be accepted by common consent of the banks at its face value? What is there extraordinary about the suggestion to standardize checks and drafts? They constitute 9L> per cent of the currency of the country in paying accounts and adjusting balances. And the banks themselves adjust their own balances through this very medium. The talk about the "great expense" of collecting and paying out-of-town checks is in great degree rubbish. The cost is negligible, as any frank banker will tell you. It is so inconsequential that the Federal Reserve Board has been unable to get an actuary with enough skill to figure it out. The collection costs of the Federal Reserve System itself have been less than one hundred and fiftieth of 1. per cent! I have here a letter from a Tennessee banker which furnishes a verv definite illustration of the difference between the old system of check collection graft and the new system of inexpensive collections. This Tennessee banker writes: The t h o u g h t has occurred to us t h a t you would like to know how the new collection a r r a n g e m e n t is w o r k i n g w i t h member banks. We give you the f o l l o w i n g e x a m p l e : At » North C a r o l i n a , there are three h a n k s — t w o n a t i o n a l a n d one Slate. They were evidently in a c o m b i n a t i o n prior to J u l y 15, 1010, on the question of exchange. Most of I lie checks of their customers had stamped on them " Not collectible through the express office " or some such wording. This is out of our territory, but we could not collect the items through any of (lie o r d i n a r y channels, a n d were forced to send them direct, only tak'.ng the checks for collection a m i giving our customers all the money we received. F o r live days in J u n e we sent them $5,950.85, on which we p a i d exchange at the rate of l>5 cents per h u n d r e d , or a total of $15.10. We are h a n d i n g you herewith one of their r e m i t t a n c e letters, w h i c h shows they charged us $9.00 on items aggregating $3,985.70. T a k i n g live days in J u l y , or since the collection a r r a n g e m e n t was entered i n t o by the Federal Reserve Hanks, we have sent on the same through the Federal Reserve R a n k of A t l a n t a , a total of $7,170.03, at a total cost of 12 cents. The t'nie the items were in t r a n s i t was greater when sent direct t h a n when sent t h r o u g h the Federal Reserve R a n k of A t l a n t a . This Is not so m u c h a saving to us as it is to our customers, a n d more people will be benefited by this system of collection, 10 to 1, 1100—17093 10 than will be harmed )>y a loss of revenue to these hanks who have been so outrageous in their charges. This case is typical. It reveals the vice ol' the old system as clearly as it exhibits the ediciency of the new. Under the new collection system (hose Tennessee merchants had checks aggregating $7,170.03 quickly collected at a cost of 12 cents, while under the old svstem, with its roundabout routing, it cost these merchants .$15.10 to collect $5,950.85—the difference between the obsolete stagecoach and the modern steam railroad facilities! But, it is contended, this transaction deprived three " struggling country banks of the difference between about $18, which they would have received for paying the larger amount of checks under the old system, and 12 cents actual cost under the now system. Leaving out of question the moral obligation of these banks to pay their depositors' checks without deduction, the fact is that two of these struggling" banks have accumulated a surplus almost equal to their capital; they pay an annual dividend of 10 per cent and their stock sells for nearly twice its par value! This Illustration could be multiplied indefinitely in an even more aggravated form. However, 1 would repeat and accentuate the statement that bankers of vision, with a progressive spirit, do not engage in this practice. They long ago discarded it. The thing is pursued eld ell.v by those who fail to comprehend the advantages of modern methods and who, in their petty acquisitiveness refuse to adapt their business to a system pregnant with larger success and a higher spirit. The case was tersely put the other day by Mr. Perre Jay, of the New York Federal reserve bank, when he said: The banks wHeli are now endeavoring to have the deduction of exchange legalized do not seem to recognize that a new country-wide system to facilitate domestic settlements by both checks and transfers has been created and is m process of development. Instead of looking ahead and endeavoring to cooperate they stand squarely across the path of progress seek to turn buck the hands of the clock. W i t h minds focused on thr barrier which the law desires to remove they do not see the sttuat ou in its proper perspective. The fail to grasp the advantages to business of economical ami scientific methods of making settlements; tliev fall to understand that every move toward making local checks more acceptlble away from home enables the local bank to keep more local money at home. There Is the crux of the matter. That is a happy phrase: " M o r e local money nt home." Country bankers—which means nil bankers outside 51 central reserve and reserve cities—in order to clear their own checks. " free of charge," as they vainly imagine, have for years shipped away the funds of their local depositors to the money centers at a 2 per cent interest rate, to be used for stock speculative purposes, instead of "keeping more local money at home," as Mr. Jay says, to loan to local merchants and industries sit a reasonable yet profitable discount. There is no telling, Mr. Speaker, of how many hundreds of millions of dollars country communities have been drained nor computing the commercial distress and industrial deprivations they have endured by reason of (his practice of country banks sending local funds away from home. There was little rational defense of it under the old system ; there is absolutely no excuse for it since the passage of the Federal reserve act. When the required reserve of country banks was 15 per cent, the combined figures show that they actually carried 29 per cent. The average Interest rate on these excess reserves carried largely for the purpose of securing the par collecting of their out-of1100—17003 11 town chocks is 2 per cent. With money worth 5 and (1 per cent, and in many localities bringing 8 and 10 per cent, the cost of 3 or 4 per cent or (5 or S per cent on excess reserves of 14 per cent would very much reduce the income side of the exchange accounts. The establishing of the Federal reserve banks makes it in most cases unnecessary for the banks to carry excess reserves and thereby increases their earning capacity. Moreover, the reserve requirements of country banks were lowered by the Federal reserve act for the express purpose of covering this paltry 2 per cent, winch they received for local funds transferred, and which never should have been , transferred, to money centers—a fact which they seem always to ignore. A trained banker of Minnesota states t'ce case with great perspicacity in a letter from which I quote two paragraphs : It should he realized by nil that any saving in the expense of collecting checks will be to the advantage of all the banks in the country. The Federal reserve bank, by providing a central agency in each district through which checks may be collected, lias provided a method whereby checks n a y be collected with the least expense. This is due to the doing away with Indirect routing, thus reducing the number of times checks are handled, and the saving of time in securing final payment. If the sy.ftcin is properly supported by the banks of the country, it will lessen the expense in remitting for checks, as the banks of New England have demonstrated through 17 years of experience that it is much cheaper to receive one remittance a' day and remit in payment, tluin it is to receive remittance letters from a number of correspondents, as well as others, and account for them. One strong argument that occurs to us as to why that part of the Federal reserve act relating to charges on bank checks and drafts should not be amended at the present time, is that the majority of the bank,s in thin country transacting 85 per cent of the hanking business of the country, arc not charging for remitting for their checks, and that the collection system of the Federal reserve banks should be given a fair and Impartial trial before any amendment to the law Is considered, and It would not be fair to the banks of the country to amend the law at the request of the smaller number of banks which have, for selfish reasons, always been opposed to a proper and economical system of collecting checks. That sums up the case. Nearly 10,000 banks joined the collection system instituted by the Federal Reserve Board. These constitute two-thirds of the commercial banks of the country. They do 85 per cent of the commercial banking business. They do not charge for paying or collecting checks. This Senate , " rider," drafted by a bank lobbyist and through organized propaganda grafted onto a bill here designed to help banking and facilitate commerce, is merely a statutory invitation to these 10,000 banks, as well as to the small group doing only 15 per cent of the country's business, to renew this tax on commerce and industry. It is a legislative sanction of an obsolete and vicious practice which has never had the countenance of law and should not have it now. And I warn this group of bankers wvich assumes responsibility for this renewed attempt to erect this tollgate across the highway of commerce that it is sowing to the wind and will reap the whirlwind. The business men of the United States are thoroughly aroused over the situation, and if this legislation should be enacted, except in the modi tied form proposed by this conference report, they will systematically refuse to patronize banks which persist in this vice. Moreover, let the country banks take warning. Under the law they may no longer count balances with correspondent banks as reserve; hence there no 1100—17003 longer will he induceoient to carry local funds in outside hanks at 2 per cent. This will presently occur; and when it does the big banks will begin to charge for remitting funds also, should this Senate rider, unmodified, prevail. I f the charge for remitting funds to cover checks becomes general and applies to central reserve and reserve city banks, ns well as the country banks, it is evident that banks in general will not profit by the result. A bank in remitting to a Federal reserve bank wishes to be able to send offsetting items rather than cash, and the whole proposition of clearing checks depends upon this principle. Heretofore a charge has boen made by the country bank for remitting, but no charge by the city bank, whereas under this Senate " rider" 1110 city bank is authorized to charge as much as the country bank. If, therefore, a bank receives one-tenth of 1 per cent on all items drawn upon itself, but pays out one-tenth of 1 per cent for collecting all items it has received, the probability is that the large city banks will be the gainers. An accomplished country banker in the State of New Jersey, a n u n who understands the philosophy of banking as well as the practical details, writes me that— I f the F e d e r a l Reserve S y s t e m w a s n o n e x i s t e n t , the f a c i l i t i e s a n d e c o n o m y w h i c h it so a d m i r a b l y affords w o u l d j u s t i f y the o r g a n i z a t i o n of n system for the exclusive p u r p o s e of c l e a r i n g ni.d c o l l e c t i n g out-of-town checks, b u t the o r g a n i z a t i o n of a p r o p e r system for t h i s p u r p o s e u n d e r p r e s e n t c i r c u m s t a n c e s w o u l d be a needless w a s t e of l a b o r a n d cap.'tal a n d In consequence a n u n n e c e s s a r y d r a i n u p o n the p u b l i c . T h i s m a y be regarded as a n a n s w e r to those w h o c o n t e n d t h a t the F e d e r a l Reserve S y s t e m s h o u l d not u n d e r t a k e the m a t t e r of h a n d l i n g out-of-town checks. T h e c o n d i t i o n of a f f a i r s wa« bettered at i stroke w h e n the F e d e r a l Reserve Hoard u n d e r t o o k to collect out-of t o w n checks. .Mr. Speaker, there are a multitude of reasons why this check paying and collection charge should be abolished entirely and a fairer and more scientific system substituted, but the subject Is technical and. therefore, difficult both to explain and understand, especially in the compass of limited time. But I very earnestly protest against this Senate rider which seeks to legalize, in the worst possible form, a banking practice that the best banking sentiment itself condemns. The gentleman from Ohio fMr. SWITZEK] asked me awhile ago why the conference report does not omit the Senate amendment altogether, if the practice which it proposes to sanction is so indefensible. The only reason we did not discard the provision was the instruction given by the House. While we felt that the House did not act with full knowledge of the facts, and knew that scores of Members bad voted under misapprehension, the conferees did not feel at liberty to "contemptuously" disregard the instructions of the House, as the gentleman' from Wyoming [Mr. Mois-nixr.! suggests we have done. In the circumstances the host; we could do was to retain the phraseology of the Senate " r i d e r " and apply an antidote, which, we feel confident, will correct its evil effects in large degree if not entirely. The gentleman from Ohio [Mr. SWITZF.RI also suggested that the modification of the Hardwlck amendment proposed by the conference report is intended to prevent any check-collection charges being made by anybody. I frankly stated that I hope and believe the modifications proposed by the conferees will have the result of abolishing till charges beyond actual cost, which, in our view, would he the only " reasonable charge" that could be made. Inasmuch as the Federal 1100—1709:1 13 reserve act requires Federal reserve banks to accept at par all checks and drafts of member banks, the conferees unanimously agreed that member banks should be prohibited from exacting check-collection charges from the Federal reserve banks, as there should bo reciprocal arrangements as well as community of interest. This modification itself will largely tend to draw the fangs of the Senate rider and circumscribe its utter viciousness. For these and other reasons, which I have not the time to present, I urge I lie Mouse to vote down the motion to recommit the 1 >i 11 with instructions. Without objection, Mr. Speaker, I shall append to my remarks the circular letter which has been several times alluded to here as an " a n o n y m o u s " letter, but which, as will readily be seen, has a very definite and a very respectable paternity: ANVWIIERE, SOMEWIIKKE, OR NOWHERE ? " W A S H I N G T O N , D . C . , May 19, 1917. A group of gentlemen w h o happened to meet in W a s h i n g t o n a n d w h o represent widespread business interests in various lines t h r o u g h o u t the country have prepared tills statement of reasons why Congress should reject the I l a r d w i c k a m e n d m e n t to the Federal reserve law, or a n y other measure designed to accomplish the same purpose, viz. the purpose of a l l o w i n g bankers to charge for p a y i n g checks d r a w n by their own depositors upon funds in their keeping. P a y m e n t of such checks can not be classed as n service to the p a r t y presenting them for p a y m e n t I t is only the discharge of an obligation which the bank is bound to discharge on demand. The group Included official representatives of the B u t t o n Manufacturers Association, N a t i o n a l Association of Clothiers, N a t i o n a l Association of Credit Men, N a t i o n a l Association of Hosiery and Underwear M a n u f a c t u r e r s , N a t i o n a l Class D i s t r i b u t o r s Association, N a t i o n a l Hardware Association of the United States, N a t i o n a l R e t a i l I)rv Goods Association, N a t i o n a l Shoe Wholesalers Association, N a t i o n a l Wholesale D r y Goods Association, N a t i o n a l Wholesale Jewelers Association, St. Louis Chamber of Commerce, a n d Southern Wholesale Crocers Association. The committee appointed to prepare a n d Issue the following s t a t e m e n t consisted of Messrs. S. W . Campbell, C. It. Carter, \V. R. Corwine T h o m a s A. Fern ley, E. L . Howe, J . II. M c L a u r i n , W . D. S i m m o n s , a n d W w . orr. The Federal reserve law a n d its development, under the able administ r a t i o n of the Federal Reserve Hoard, is g r a d u a l l y m a k i n g a country merchant's check worth 100 cents on the dollar anywhere. The creditors of these m e r c h a n t s are entitled to p a y m e n t by check or some other credit i n s t r u m e n t which is w o r t h 100 cents on the dollar somewhere. These country bankers are a s k i n g Congress to pass a law which will make a country merchant's check worth 100 cents on the dollar nowhere The I l a r d w i c k a m e n d m e n t would make It legal for a bank to charge for p a y i n g Its own checks in any m a i m e r . THE HAUDWICK AMENDMENT REASONS FOR ITS REJECTION. I n order t h a t we m a y not give a n y w r o n g Impression of our a t t i t u d e toward the b a n k i n g business or t h a t we are in anv w a v disposed to look at this problem only from a one-sided or selfish point of view, let us say right in the b e g i n n i n g t h a t we appreciate t h o r o u g h l y the difficult situation in which the small town bankers find themselves at present as the result of recent developments, a n d share the apprehension that t i n y a n d their friends feel for their welfare in the f u t u r e if the present course of development continues and if they persist in their opposition to m a k i n g changes In their methods a n d to a d j u s t i n g themselves to present conditions In order to take a d v a n t a g e of a d d i t i o n a l a n d new ways of m a k i n g money offered by the new law a n d which may he made to act as a n offset to the loss of t h a t part of their former revenues which has come from practices which this I l a r d w i c k a m e n d m e n t is designed to sanction and perpetuate, but which, for the following reasons, we believe should no longer be a u t h o r i z e d or permitted : Let us say also in t h a t same connection t h a t we share t h o r o u g h l y the conviction t h a t hankers should have adequate compensation for all" services which they render to their p a t r o n s a n d t h a t their compensation should cover not only a n y direct outlay involved in rendering that service, but should cover also indirect or overhead c o s t s — a n d a profit besides. However, t h a t compensation should be charged to a n d paid by 1100—17003 14 the patron of the bank to whom the service is rendered, and no banker should be p e r m i t t e d — m u c h less a u t h o r i z e d — t o conspire with his patron to put the burden of this expense upon a third party who lias no voice in the arrangement. That would be taxation without representation, and if we remember correctly, there was a popular prejudice against that principle in this country at one t i m e — a prejudice against even tii." established government's taxing thoue under its jurisdiction without their consent. C t r t a i n l y we of this generation have a right to object to our <Jovernincnfs conferring upon any very small percentage of the citizens of this country the right to put a tax—direct or indirect—upon the remainder. this practicallv a Nation engaged in commerce, any plan which authorizes one small group of men to put a tax upon the commerce of the country, practically authorizes them to tax for their own benefit and profit the remaining large percentage of the people. We appreciate the fact that the universal establishment of the par collection system in this country would put a considerable part of these small bankers in an embarrassing position, but since that is the direct result of their own action, and since they have gotten themselves into this position bv higgling with facts and by a t t e m p t i n g to get away from sound principles ami f u n d a m e n t a l laws, there does not seem to us to be any lustilication in allowing them to continue to abuse the rest of the business community for the purpose of their relief That they are responsible for the present situation is due to the fact that, beginning shortly after the close of our Civil W a r but beg i n n i n g more generally about 25 years ago, these bankers offered . n 9 an inducement to persuade local merchants to carry accounts witli them to so handle their checks as to relieve them of having to pay exchange in remitting for their merchandise accounts to the various points at which they were due and payable. They evidently had two objects in mind in making this offer: (1) An increase of the r deposits and the holding of all these funds all during the time checks in payment should be in circuit back to their point of origin, and (2) revenue which came to them through the deposit by these country merchants of exchange which they received direct, or from their farmer customers to whom it is paid bv buvers of produce, cattle, etc., the payments usually being made in checks or drafts on New York City. These checks and drafts the country banker accepted for collection, making a charge for that service and incidentally getting the exchange ' " s o o n after that, however, he developed the idea that, in addition to getting this New York exchange for nothing and charging his depositor for the privilege of giving It to him, lie might then draw on the credit thus established to meet his own demand obligations (his depositors checks) and by doing so retain the further use ot the money during the circuit of' this second credit instrument. Then, still .iter lie e w l v e d the plan of making a charge for paying tills demand obligation in t h a t way, calling it in some instances a collection charge; in other The'Tpiestio'V'nahiriufy^a'rfses. Low did be succeed in putting that over and why was he permitted to do so? That was simply because he took advantage of his position and the dependence ot the country merchant upon him to influence the country merchant to adopt this course using the argument (1) that it would relieve the merchant of paving exchange and following that up with the still more pungent and effective argument that as the country merchant expected his bank to do him a favor occasionally, he would, in turn, be expected to cooperate with the banker by making his remittances in this way. It was the price of accommodation from the banker when the merchant m ' T h e " w h e n ° the'°countr y °nierchant received a letter from hls creditor objecting to this method of payment as not adequately coveiing his obligation and took it, as he usually did to his banker to ask how to answer it, the banker coached him to stand pat and reply that if his own checks were not accepted in payment of his account, he would close the account and buy his goods somewhere c i s t — t h e banker s argument to the merchant being t h a t no firm would be fool enough to throw away a good account for a 15-cent charge and that would be ail t h a t would be Involved in any one instance under discussion. Of course, as one manufacturer or Jobber after another yielded to these tactics rather than lose their accounts, the banks began to coach eacn other with a view to making the proposition as general as possible, because the more general tttey made it, the more chance they l a d ot holding on t™ the position permanently since there was I-rac cal y no way for the victims to get together and tight them. This, In the light of a recent statement made In the official organ of the American Bankers Association, should be kept constantly in mind as evidence t h a t these 1100—17093 15 banks have themselves never seriously contended t h a t they were entitled to collect this charge for paying their checks or that it was right, or good business, or sound banking. They have contended for its maintenance on the principle t h a t miijlit makrn right. Their arguments are very like those which the German Government has recently tendered to us in their answers to our insistence upon our rights to traverse the high seas. The German Government told us that If we did not stay away from those portions of the high seas which they proscribed, we would he responsible for 1 lie results; and if we got hurt, it would be our own fault. In like manner the American bankers, through their olllelal organ, say : , „ . " T h e seller of goods lias a right to demand payment from the buyer in actual cash or exchange, t h a t is worth 100 cents on the dollar at the p o i n t of sale, but if t h a t merchant surrenders that right and accepts cheek on the local bank in the home town of the buyer, it takes w i t h that check the burden of its liquidation." The similarity between this and the German sophistry speaks for Itself. It is particularly interesting in view of the words which follow the above quotation from the report of the " C o m m i t t e e of Twenty-Five" of the American Hankers Association, which has been most industrious in lobbying this measure through Congress, viz " No law rule, or regulation should permit this burden to lie shouldered on to a third party, either the city or country bank. The buyer and seller are (he beneficiaries and one or the other should bear the expense * * *. The letter of the Federal Reserve Hoard overlooks the principles involved, that Is, that the purchase and sale of exchange is a legitimate function of banking." The idea that the Federal Reserve Hoard does not recognize the principles involved, is interesting but not nearly so much so to us as the recognition of tiie principle that a " b u r d e n " of that kind should not be shouldered on to a third party, as that is exactly what this " C o m mittee of Twenty-Five" bankers have asked Congress to authorize them to do. It should therefore only lie necessary to show that to be the case, to bring about the voluntary w i t h d r a w a l of the measure by those who have been, for several months, working so constantly for its adoption. It is not that the Federal Reserve Hoard has failed to see the proposition in its true light ; it is the " Committee of Twenty-Five " (bankers) who have failed to see that in an effort to present a plausible reason for being permitted to do a most unwarranted thing, they have overlooked the fact that the sale of merchandise is not the transaction to which this law would apply. The transaction to lie effected by this law is one of those which, as they state, " is a legitimate function of banking," viz, the purchase and sale of exchange. This Is evidenced by the fact that the law which they ask Congress to pass would apply without respect to the occasion for the payment In question or whether there had been a n y t h i n g bought or sold. The contractual relations of the buyer a n d seller of exchange are alone affected by this provision ; and the proposition that " no law, rule, or regulation should permit or require that the burden be shouldered on to a third p a r t y , " applies thoroughly. The patron of the banker in question has occasion to make a payment In a distant point. The reason for having to make It Is not a factor. Whatever arrangement is made between him and Ills banker with reference to the credit instrument which Is used to make the payment, it does not Involve the payee of that Instrument, nor can the compensation for the service rendered be shouldered on to tills third p a r t y — the payee. That however, is what is proposed by this amendment and what they rightfully, although unwittingly, show that " no law or rule should permit." . . . , , , , . , . Now, instead of contending on the basis of principle or right or equity for the continuance of this practice, they fall back universally as a ' f i n a l argument upon the fact that so large a percentage of their revenues has come from this source that to stop them now would be a serious handicap and inroad into their earnings and they therefore ask the United States Congress not only not to disturb them In this practice if thev are able to continue it on the principle that might makes r i g h t ; but as soon as the business Interests of the country -by a proper, consistent, and logical law—provided for the gradual adjustment of the practice and conformity to sound principles, these bankers come then to the United States Congress and ask the passage of a law to enable them to retain the right to put this tax burden upon all third parties. They have gone still further in demanding the right to place this charge burden on a third party even when no exchange is asked for or furnished, and hence no basis for a claim t h a t any service has been rendered to anybody. 1100— iron:! 1G W h y do these hankers insist upon p u t t i n g it unjustly upon a third party? Simply because they have taught their depositors that they need never pay exchange and have no faith in their ability to recover from t h a t position. As the result ol a most active lobby, they Introduce a measure which Is designed to give them a special privilege of a meat absolute character, designed also to relieve them of some of the most fundamental Obligations of a banker to his patrons and to the public. The amendment is carefully and painstakingly worded to relieve the banker from bis responsibility for meeting his demand obligations at I'M) cents on the dollar and to permit him in practice to keep for himself a small part of every dollar deposited with him by sanctioning his refusal to pay in full any proper demand therefor. W e recognize that it will be very profitable to the bankers of this country to be permitted to do this Instead of being responsible for and required to pay out 100 cents for every dollar deposited with them on demand ; but it Is certainly not commercial banking as that has been known up to th's time and it seems to us a most astounding proposition to ask the Congress of the United States to put Its sanction upon any such procedure. When a bank issues its notes in the form of currency, it expects nil other banks throughout the length and breadth of the land to accept these (its demand obligations) at 100 cents 011 the dollar, hut this same banker desires Congress to relieve him from the responsibility of accepting his own demand obligations on the same terms. This whole proposition is therefore not only unsound and unmoral In t h a t It is designed to permit a banker to discharge his obligations by paying less than the a m o u n t of them, but in addition to that, It Is thoroughly uneconomical In the way It will work out in actual practice. I'nder this system, a country merchant, in order to pay Ids account, will mail, let us say from Selma, Ala., to his jobber In Chicago, a check 011 his local bank, for the exact a m o u n t of his debt. That check will go around the circuit from the Federal reserve bank In Chicago, then to the Federal reserve bank in A t l a n t a , and then to the banker In Selma 011 whom 't Is drawn, and when It gets to its destination, it is, according to tills plan, nothing more than an order for t h a t banker to send out in exchange for It another check for a less amount to pay the same debt. This second check then starts on Its round, all d u r i n g which time the banker In question still has the use of the funds, which in reality should have been in the hands of the creditor of the country merchant. This llrst circuit, therefore, of the country merchant's own check is a perfectly useless procedure, requiring a lot of handling and consequently unnecessary expense, a m o u n t i n g to a great many millions of dollars of needless burden upon the commerce of the country, for which It gets absolutely nothing I11 return, and which would be entirely obviated by having the merchant do what, as stated in the American Hankers Association's ofllclal organ, lie should do and what his creditor has a right to demand of him ; viz, send, in the first place, a check which will pay the amount. J u s t as the Federal Reserve Hoard is perfecting a thoroughly well developed system, which would eliminate all of this burden of useless expense, which has been gradually saddled upon the domestic commerce of the country by these bankers, and just as t h a t board is establishing a system which these bankers acknowledge we are justly entitled to. the Congress of the United States proposes to enact a law designed to establish, permanently, the right of bankers to Impose this Injustice upon the remainder of the citizenship. This Is not a war measure; it is not claimed to be a war measure, but it is proposed to Impose it at a time when the business of the country is being asked to shoulder the heaviest burden of taxation it has ever freed, a time w h n the thoroughly enthusiastic cooperation of the business interests and the ready acceptance of their unusual burdens are of partlcul ar Importance. Certainly this is not a happily chosen time to add to those burdens by extending to a privileged few the right of taxation and the right to put It upon those with whom they have 110 business relations, giving those taxed 110 voice In the matter nor any alternative. Could there be a n y t h i n g more out of harmony with the spirit and attitude which the people of this country are asked to show toward Congress and the administration V 110G—17003 o