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Thursday, January 26, 1995

Testimony by
Alan Greenspan
Chairman
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Committee on the Budget
United States Senate
January 26, 1995

Mr

Chairman, members of the Committee. I am pleased to be

able to appear here today to offer my thoughts on the economic and
fiscal backdrop for your policy discussions
The U S

economy has recorded some notable achievements over

the past few years, but there is nonetheless much left to be
accomplished

The fiscal decisions made by the Congress in the next

several months will play a critical role in determining the economic
welfare of our citizens over the years--indeed. the decades--to come
I perhaps should begin with a brief review of the current
condition of the economy
monetary policy to navigate

In 1994, we had a difficult reversal in
The overhang of debt and the strains

that emerged among our financial intermediaries, especially out of the
commercial real estate collapse of the late 1980s, required a heavy
dose of monetary ease beginning in 1989 to alleviate a significant
credit crunch

The danger of overstaying that policy of ease was

clear, particularly as we moved through 1993, but the right time to
change course was difficult to determine

Judging from the

developments of the past year, it appears that our policy reversal
last February was timely--but we won't know for sure except in
retrospect
There is no question that the past year was one of remarkable
progress along many dimensions of macroeconomic performance

The

official estimates for the fourth quarter are not yet available, but
it is clear that real gross domestic product expanded by four percent
over the course of 1994--the best gain in some time, and one that
surpassed most expectations

Importantly, we saw an accelerated

expansion of employment as well

Cumulatively

payrolls have now

increased roughly 6 million over the past couple of years, belying in
dramatic fashion the notion that had developed earlier in this decade

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that our economy had lost its job-generating ability

With the rapid

growth of employment, the national unemployment rate has fallen
sharply, to less than 5-1/2 percent this past month
Of crucial importance to the sustainability of these gains,
they have been achieved without a deterioration in the overall
inflation rate

The Consumer Price Index rose 2 7 percent last year,

the same as in 1993

Inflation at the retail level, as measured by

the CPI, has been a bit less than 3 percent for three years running
now--the first time that has occurred since the early 1960s

This is

a signal accomplishment, for it marks a move toward a more stable
economic environment in which households, businesses, and governmental
units can plan with greater confidence and operate with greater
efficiency

When we consider the probable upward bias of the CPI, it

would appear that we have made considerable progress toward achieving
price stability
I have stated many times in Congressional testimony that I
believe firmly that a key ingredient in achieving the highest possible
levels of productivity, real incomes, and living standards is the
achievement of price stability

Thus, I see it as crucial that we

extend the recent trend of low and, hopefully, declining inflation in
the years ahead

The prospects in this regard are fundamentally good,

but there are reasons for some concern, at least with respect to the
nearer term

Those concerns relate primarily to the fact that

resource utilization rates already have risen to high levels by recent
historical standards

The current unemployment rate, for example

is

comparable to the average of the late 1980s, when wages and prices
accelerated appreciably

The same is true of the capacity utilization

rate in the industrial sector

It may be that these pressures will

lead to some deterioration in the price picture in the near term; but

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any such deterioration should be contained if the Federal Reserve
remains vigilant
The actions of the Congress and the Administration in the
fiscal sphere will also be important to the outlook for prices and the
economy

There can be no doubt that the persistence of large federal

budget deficits represents in the minds of many individuals a
potential risk

While we clearly have avoided it in recent years,

history is replete with examples of fiscal pressures leading to
monetary excesses and then to greater inflation

Currently, I

strongly suspect that investors here and abroad are exacting from
issuers of dollar-denominated debt an extra inflation risk premium
that reflects not their estimate of the most likely rate of price
level increase over the life of the obligation, but the possibility
that it could prove to be significantly greater

This inflation risk

premium is costly, because it raises the hurdle that must be surpassed
when looking at the expected returns on possible investment projects
But the influence of the fiscal imbalance of the federal
government on capital formation is broader than that

The federal

deficit drains off a large share of a regrettably small pool of
domestic private saving, thus contributing further--and perhaps to an
even greater degree--to the elevation of real rates of interest in the
economy

Admittedly, there is some uncertainty about the causes of

what seem to be relatively high real long-term rates around the world,
as was noted by leaders of the largest industrial nations at their
summit meeting last year

But the vast majority of analysts would

agree that in the United States the current sizable federal deficits,
and the projected growth of those deficits over the decades ahead, are
a significant element in the story

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I'm sure that you are aware of the general picture with
respect to the flows of saving and investment in the economy, but it
may be worth spending a few minutes to review the recent data

I've

attached a couple of charts to my statement to aid you in following my
description

As you can see in the upper chart, there has been a

dramatic decline over the past couple of decades in the ratio of net
domestic nonfederal saving to net domestic product

The ratio last

year, based on data for the first three quarters of the year

was

about 6 percent, as compared with more than 9 percent, on average,
during the 1960s and '70s

In the past few years, net business saving

has moved up. as corporate profitability has experienced a cyclical
improvement, but the personal saving rate has been running at its
lowest levels in nearly half a century

The causes of the low private

saving rate are hotly debated by economists, and it is fair to say
that it is not yet understood

Americans have not always been low

savers, but--for whatever reasons --that has been the pattern recently
and it is a reality with important implications for the financial
markets
If we were a high saving nation, we might be in a position to
better tolerate the federal fiscal imbalance

But, as you can see in

the chart, the federal deficit has generally been absorbing half or
more of the available domestic saving since the early 1980s

Even

with the decline in the federal deficit last year, it amounted to
almost 45 percent of domestic nonfederal saving
How, then, one might ask, has it been possible for the United
States to experience the impressive growth in business fixed
investment that it has of late7
components to the answer
central points

There are a number of arithmetic

but I shall focus on two particularly

The first is that, while gross investment has been

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rising rapidly and has been accounting for a substantial share of GDP,
net investment has only recently reached appreciable dimensions

The

difference between gross and net investment is, of course,
depreciation, and the fact is that depreciation has been rising
steeply because of the shift in the composition of the capital stock
toward equipment--especially computers --with shorter useful lives
Another ingredient in the reconciliation of the domestic saving and
investment balance is saving from abroad-- shown in the lower chart
Our nation has been running persistent and often sizable deficits in
its current account position vis-a-vis the rest of the world, once a
leading provider of capital to other nations, we have become a net
importer of capital
In today's more open and integrated international capital
markets, it is easier to finance investment abroad

And economic

efficiency may be served by the tendency for capital to flow across
borders to where the potential returns on real investment appear
highest and the risks the lowest
should view the pattern of U S
the long run

But this does not mean that we
external deficits as sustainable in

Looking back at the history of the past century or

more, the record would suggest that nations ultimately must rely on
their domestic savings to support domestic investment
The challenge for the U S

over the coming decades is clear

We must sustain higher levels of investment if we are to achieve
healthy increases in productivity and be strong and successful
competitors in the international marketplace

To support that

investment, we shall need to raise the level of domestic saving
Absent a rise in private saving, it will be necessary to eliminate the
structural deficit in the federal budget

Indeed, it has long been my

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judgment that it would be wise to target achievement of at least a
modest surplus down the road
If the Congress were to pass a balanced budget amendment, the
need for aiming at a structural surplus would become even more
important

Unless there were a surplus to provide some cushion, the

inevitable cyclical fluctuations in economic activity would create
pressures either to set aside the requirements of the amendment or to
take budgetary actions that are inimical to economic stability

It

should not be necessary to raise taxes or cut spending in response to
a transitory weakening of the economy
I recognize that the achievement of structural balance, let
alone surplus, is no small political challenge

Moreover, as the

Kerrey-Danforth entitlement commission recently documented, the
problem that must be addressed is not one with a 2002 end-point

The

outlook is for a mounting fiscal imbalance during the twenty-first
century, given current programs and likely population and labor force
trends

We should not be seduced by the mounting trust fund surpluses

today into thinking that we can postpone dealing with the entitlement
gap, the cost of waiting is going to be far more painful adjustments,
which could be avoided by moderate actions legislated today to become
effective after the turn of the century
This longer-range perspective obviously has relevance for the
tax and spending measures the Congress will be considering

Some

basic economic principles must be observed, if you are to maximize the
federal government's contribution to the fostering of high real
incomes and to alleviating the entitlement problem

Most importantly,

not all taxes or expenditures are equal in terms of their influence on
the productive capacity of the economy

Although, as I testified

recently, I would caution against major changes in budget scoring

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techniques at this time, that does not mean that the Congress should
not give a good deal of attention to the effects of its fiscal actions
on the incentives faced by private decision makers
In sura, the recent performance of the macroeconomy has been
encouraging

But much of the improvement is in the nature of cyclical

developments and we all have our work cut out for us if we are to
extend these gains and foster long-term trends that enhance the
welfare of all of our citizens

The central role of the Federal

Reserve today is to ensure that our economy remains on a sustainable,
noninflationary path

For the Congress, a crucial focus should be

continuing the process of fiscal consolidation and rectifying the
secular shortfall in domestic saving that is limiting the growth of
our nation's productive potential

Saving and Investment
(Percent of net domestic product)
Domestic Saving and the Deficit

Percent

* Personal saving, undistributed profits and state and local government surplus

Sources and Uses of Net Saving

' Net private domestic Investment plus federal budget deficit
" Net domestic nonfederal saving
SOURCE Dept of Commerce, National Income and Product Accounts, table 5 1
Data for 1994 are averages of first three quarters

Percent