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12 0 0 p m , E D T
July 10, 1998

Remarks by
Alan Greenspan
Chairman
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
at the
Charlotte Chamber of Commerce
Charlotte, North Carolina
July 10, 1998

It is a pleasure to be in Charlotte today Before I ever visited your fair city or
state, indeed, before I had traveled very far from the environs of Yankee Stadium, I
developed a special affinity for Charlotte In the evenings when I was a boy, I often
tuned in the clear radio channel stations around the country-those assigned a unique
wavelength-and WBT Charlotte was one that I recall listening to quite often when the
atmospherics were just right By that time radio was not exactly on the cutting edge of
technology, but it was not very far from it either In those days, no one thought of
Charlotte as an important national banking center, but as we moved from the vacuum
tube of radio to the transistor and sihcon chip of current technology, both technological
change and the resulting erosion of restrictive laws have permitted creative management
to establish financial centers in this country wherever convenient
The implications of today's relentless technological changes are my subject matter
this afternoon
The United States is currently confronting what can best be described as another
industrial revolution The rapid acceleration of computer and telecommunications
technologies is a major reason for the appreciable increase in our productivity in this
expansion, and is likely to continue to be a significant force in expanding standards of
living into the twenty-first century
Technological change is but one part of a broader set of forces an ever increasing
conceptualization of our Gross Domestic Product-the substitution, in effect, of ideas for
physical matter in the creation of economic value The roots of increasing

-2conceptualization of output lie deep in human history, but the pace of such substitution
probably picked up in the early stages of the first industrial revolution, when science and
machines created new leverage for human energy Nonetheless, even as recently as the
middle of this century, the symbols of American economic strength were our outputs of
such products as steel, motor vehicles, and heavy machinery—items for which sizable
proportions of production costs reflected the value of raw materials and the sheer manual
labor required to manipulate them Since then, trends toward conceptualization have
focused today's views of economic advancement increasingly on downsized, smaller, less
"concrete" evidence of output, requiring more technologically sophisticated labor input
The radio on which I listened to WBT was activated by large vacuum tubes, today
we have elegantly designed pocket-sized units using transistors to perform the same
function—but with the higher quality of sound and greater reliability that consumers now
expect Thin fiber-optic cable has replaced huge tonnages of copper wire Advances in
architecture and engineering, as well as the development of lighter but stronger materials,
now give us the same working space, but in buildings with significantly less concrete,
glass, and steel tonnage than was required in an earlier era
The process of conceptualization in output seems to have accelerated in recent
decades with the advent of inventions such as the semiconductor, the microprocessor, the
computer, and the satellite The cutting edge of the new technologies is evidenced by the
huge expansion in the dollar value of international trade, but significantly not so in

-3tonnage. Pounds per inflation-adjusted dollar of American exports, for example, have
been falling several percent per year during the past two decades
In the 1980s and early 1990s, many of us were puzzled that the growth of output
as customarily measured did not evidence a pickup Of course, output may have been
measured incorrectly But is it also possible that some of the frenetic pace of change was
mere wheel spinning-changing production inputs without increasing output-rather than
real advances in productivity
A number of commentators, particularly Professor Paul David of Stanford
University, suggested a decade ago that much of the wheel spinning, if that is what it
was, reflected the extended time it typically takes to translate a major new technology
into increased productivity and higher standards of living Indeed, it was conjectured
that the big increases in productivity resulting from the introduction of computers and
communications equipment lay in the future If true, he pointed out, this would not be
historically unusual Past innovations, such as the advent of electricity or the invention
of the gasoline-powered motor, required considerable infrastructure before their full
potential could be realized
Electricity, when it substituted for steam power late last century, was initially
applied to production processes suited to steam, Gravity was used to move goods
vertically in the steam environment, and that could not immediately change with the
advent of electric power It was only when horizontal factories, newly designed for

-4optimal use of electric power, began to dominate our industrial system many years after
electricity's initial introduction, that productivity clearly accelerated
Similarly, it was only when modern highways and gasoline service stations
became extensive that the lower cost of motor vehicle transportation became evident
While the evidence of a pickup in long-term productivity growth is still sparse,
recent accelerations in output per work hour have lent some credence to Professor
David's speculations
The same forces that have been reshaping the real economy have also been
transforming the financial services industry Once again, perhaps the most profound
development has been the rapid growth of computer and telecommunications technology
The advent of such technology has lowered the cost and broadened the scope of financial
services These developments have made it increasingly possible for borrowers and
lenders to transact directly and for a wide variety of financial products to be tailored for
very specific purposes As a result, competitive pressures in the financial services
industry are probably greater than ever before
Technological innovation has accelerated another major trend-financial
globalization-that has been reshaping our financial system, not to mention the real
economy, for at least three decades Both developments have expanded cross-border
asset holdings, trading, and credit flows In response, both securities firms and U S and

-5foreign banks have increased their cross-border operations Once again, a critical result
has been greatly increased competition both at home and abroad
Still another development reshaping financial markets—deregulation—has been as
much a reaction to technological change and globalization as an independent factor The
sharply enhanced market signals emanating from the vast set of technology-driven new
products have undermined much regulation which rested on the ability to maintain
market segregation Moreover, the continuing evolution of markets suggests that it will
be increasingly difficult to support some of the remaining rules and regulations
established for a different economic environment While the ultimate public policy goals
of economic growth and stability will remain unchanged, market forces will continue to
make it ever more difficult to sustain outdated restrictions, as we have recently seen with
respect to interstate banking and branching
But change often comes slowly, and is viewed as threatening by many Indeed, it
is frequently difficult to reform the rules of the game, as it were, because change requires
easing rules and opening options for some while increasing competition for others,
redrawing lines that create new limits, and applying some pre-existing regulatory
structures to new institutions However, in my judgment, our financial system has clearly
reached the stage where pressures from the market will force dramatic changes regardless
of existing statutory and regulatory limits The ability of financial managers to innovate
and find loopholes seems endless

-6Recognizing this reality, the congressional leadership appears to have made the
decision to attempt to fashion a new set of rules that are both comprehensive and
perceived as equitable to all participants
For the Federal Reserve, the basic focus of such a redesign has been the
implications of expanded powers, that we fully support, on the special benefits now
provided to banks by the federal safety net In order to help assure stability in the
banking system, our society has chosen to provide banks with deposit insurance, access
to the discount window, and payment system guarantees. These privileges, while
succeeding in enhancing the stability of the system, have also provided a subsidy to
banks in the form of a lower cost of funds Access to the sovereign credit of the United
States has meant that bank creditors feel less need to be concerned about the risk-taking
of their bank. This requires that the government oversee the risk exposure of banks
through supervision and regulation, that is, for government to substitute itself for the
market discipline faced by those financial businesses that do not have access to the
federal safety net
In the Federal Reserve Board's judgment, the dismantling of Depression Era
separations of financial activities must consider the necessity of containing the safety net
subsidy within the existing banking system The more the safety net is expanded to cover
new financial activities the greater the potential that risk-taking will not be subject to
market discipline, that bank-like supervision would need to be applied over a wider

-7range, and that financial innovation--the hallmark of the U S financial system-will thus
be constrained
In May, as you know, the House of Representatives passed financial
modernization legislation, H R 10, that permits banks, securities, and insurance firms to
affiliate Recognizing the problems of the safety net I have just discussed, the House
adopted the holding company structure, and not the universal bank structure proposed by
the Treasury, as the appropriate means to allow the new securities and insurance
affiliations That decision is fundamental to the way in which the financial services
industry will develop in the 21st century
The Treasury supports giving national banks the authority to conduct, through
subsidiaries of banks, the same powers that are contemplated for the holding company in
H R 10 Under this approach, equity investments by a bank in its subsidiary can be
financed at the same subsidized cost of capital available to the bank itself The subsidy
results from the bank's access to the safety net
As a consequence, the bank's operating subsidiary (or "op sub") would have a
subsidized advantage in competing with nonbanking financial institutions endeavoring to
offer the same services In contrast, when these services are financed through an
essentially unsubsidized affiliate of a holding company, as mandated by H R 10, that
competitive advantage is largely neutralized Although the Board strongly favors the

-8new powers embodied in H R 10, we believe they should be financed by the
marketplace, not subsidized with the sovereign credit of the United States
Importantly, large losses in the bank op sub can also imperil the bank and the
deposit insurance reserves Uninsured holding company affiliates provide much greater
protection for the banks, the insurance funds, and ultimately the taxpayer
In addition, should banking organizations be offered a choice between placing
new powers in an op sub or a holding company affiliate, they will, if profit is their goal,
invariably choose the op sub and its subsidized funding As a consequence, the holding
company structure would atrophy in favor of the universal bank This is not a problem in
itself But the Federal Reserve's current ability to confront a financial crisis
expeditiously rests on our role as holding company supervisor—a regulatory regime that
would be quite difficult to replace Potential significant loss of adequate Federal Reserve
hands-on supervisory capability has become an especially important issue in light of the
increase of banking megamergers
The House-passed bill creates real difficulties for some observers since it would
not permit commercial affiliations with banks Technological change has already eroded
the distinction between some financial and nonfinancial products This erosion will only
accelerate in the years ahead Nonetheless, we at the Fed agree with the House decision
simply because it is exceptionally difficult to predict with any degree of certainty the
implications of combining banking and commerce Since the decision to do so would

-9surely be irreversible, we would prefer, therefore, that the rather far-reaching financial
reform embodied in H R. 10 be digested before we proceed toward combining banking
and commerce There is no time or market urgency that requires haste Moreover, the
Asian crisis has highlighted some of the risks that can arise if relationships between
banks and commercial firms are too close It is not so much that U S entities would
evolve structures like those in Indonesia, Thailand, or Korea Rather, it is the experience
that the interaction of complex structures can make it extremely difficult for management
to monitor, analyze, and oversee financial exposures
I do wish to note, however, that while H R 10 would permit financial affiliation
over a wide range, and while current and proposed mergers would create nationwide
banks and financial service companies, not all institutions would prosper as, nor desire to
be, financial supermarkets Many specialized providers of financial services are
successful today, and will be so in the future, because of their advantages in specific
financial services Moreover, especially at commercial banks, the demand for traditional
services by smaller businesses and by households should continue to flourish And the
information revolution, while it has deprived banks of some of the traditional lending
business with their best customers, has also benefitted banks by making it less costly for
them to assess the credit and other risks of customers they would previously have
shunned Thus, it seems most likely that banks of all types will continue to engage in a

- 10substantial amount of traditional banking, delivered, of course, by ever improving
technology
Community banks, in particular, are likely to provide loans and payments services
via traditional banking Indeed, smaller banks have repeatedly demonstrated their ability
to survive and prosper in the face of major technological and structural changes by
providing traditional banking services to their customers The evidence is clear that
well-managed smaller banks can, and will, exist side by side with larger banks and other
financial services providers, often maintaining or increasing local market share
Technological change has facilitated this process by providing smaller banks with lowcost access to new products and services In short, the record shows that well-managed
smaller banks have little to fear from technology, deregulation, or consolidation
Most projections of the future United States banking structure call for a
substantial reduction in the number of American banks But these same projections also
predict that thousands of banks will survive the consolidation trend, reflecting both their
individual efficiencies and competitive skills, on the one hand, and the preferences of the
marketplace on the other Such conclusions of the Federal Reserve Board's staff and
others reinforce my own view that the franchise value of the U S community
bank-based on its intimate and personalized knowledge of local markets and customers,
its organizational flexibility, and, most of all, its management skills-will remain high,
assuring that community banks continue to play a significant role in the U S financial

-11 system Technology can never fully displace the value of personal contact, the hallmark
of community banking
In closing, let me simply reiterate that the pace of technological change, of
globalization of markets, and of the pressures for deregulation can only increase These
changes are affecting both financial and nonfinancial institutions around the world In
most American industries, the responses to these market forces do not require either the
Congress or an agency of government to grant permission for the necessary adjustments
However, many of our regulated financial institutions find themselves unable to respond
in the most efficient and effective way because of outdated statutory limitations If these
are not revised, my reading of history suggests that the affected entities will find ways to
survive, but using methods that do not provide the highest quality and lowest cost
services to the American public Only Congress can establish the ground rules to assure
that competitive responses provide maximum net benefits to consumers and a fair and
level playing field for all participants

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