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FOR RELEASE ON DELIVERY
9:40 AM EST
DECEMBER 8, 1987

Remarks by
Alan Greenspan
Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Annual Management Conference
of the
National Council of Savings Institutions

New York, New York
December 8, 1987

It is a pleasure to address this meeting of the
National Council of Savings Institutions.

The thrift

industry has played a vital role through the years in the
nation's capital markets.

In the past decade, you have

surmounted tremendous challenges.

Despite many success

stories that can be reported, there can be little doubt that
much remains to be done by your industry and by those of us
in Washington.
Changes in the thrift industry have taken places
against a background of a rapidly shifting financial system.
Ongoing flux in that system will determine the manner in
which savings flows will be channeled and housing credit
will be provided in the future.
shaping this system.

We shall all be involved in

In doing so, it is important that we

appreciate the broad economic forces that have contributed
to the current situation, as well as the lessons that can be
learned from the experiences of other countries in providing
housing credit.
Traditionally in this country, specialized housing
lenders have provided long-term mortgage credit at fixed
rates and have funded these loans with shorter-term
deposits.

Obviously, such a practice is viable in the long

run only if interest rates are stable and short-term rates
generally remain below long-term rates.

In the financial

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environment of the 1950s and early 1960s such conditions
existed, and a fixed-rate mortgage lender could flourish.
The past two decades, however, have been a period
of anything but price and interest rate stability.

The

upward trend in inflation through the late 1970s was
accompanied by rising and more volatile interest rates.
Depositors and lenders sought to protect their principal
from rapid erosion in value as the period of relatively
stable prices receded from memory.
Although inflation has dropped sharply from peaks
in the late 1970s and early 1980s, large fiscal deficits and
the corresponding heavy borrowing requirements by the
Treasury have limited the decline of interest rates.
Moreover, the inflation experience and accompanying interest
rate volatility of the earlier period left deep scars.

The

long-held belief that the United States by its nature was,
with the exception of wartime, an inflation-resistant
country, has been undercut.

The public is now acutely aware

of the state of price stability and sensitive to various
inflation indicators, be they reliable or not.

At the same

time, interest rates have come to respond promptly to
shifting sentiment on inflation as well as to prospective
budget developments.
The legacy of inflation, large deficits, and a
vulnerable thrift balance sheet structure has been a period
of pain, dislocation, and wrenching adjustment.

As

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inflationary expectations came to be embedded in the
structure of interest rates, and as interest rates rose
across the maturity spectrum, the industry faced
disintermediation.

Regulatory ceilings prevented

depositories from competing successfully for retail funds
against open market instruments or obligations of new
institutions such as money market mutual funds.

Legislative

and regulatory relief took the form of deposit deregulation,
beginning in mid-1978 and largely completed in 1983.
While thrifts were being given more control over
their deposit base, however, spread problems were worsening.
Interest expense tended to rise rapidly, reflecting the
preponderance of short-maturity liabilities on balance
sheets.

Returns on assets rose only sluggishly, reflecting

the difficulties of restructuring portfolios dominated by
slowly amortizing, fixed-rate mortgages carrying belowmarket yields.
These circumstances have led to much structural
change in the industry, with which you are all too familiar.
Many individual institutions simply could not cope with
these problems.

The thrift mortality rate rose dramatically

until disinflation and the attendant decline in market
interest rates improved spreads.
Even as this relief was forthcoming, though, other
problems emerged in the thrift industry.

Asset quality

problems replaced spread problems as a factor threatening

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the viability of a significant percentage of institutions.
In some cases, the asset quality problems stem from
imprudent or reckless lending practices.

In other

instances, they had their roots in regional disparities in
economic performance that left areas such as oil-producing
states mired in recession.
It is interesting to note that the traditional
savings bank industry, concentrated in the Northeast, has
largely avoided serious asset quality problems.

So have

many traditional savings and loans located east of the
Mississippi River.

The most difficult problems in the

savings and loan sector, posing the largest claims on the
FSLIC, are located west of the Mississippi.

Many local

economies in this area have not fared well, and there have
been many examples of lending excesses.
It will take time to fully resolve the problems of
these segments of the thrift industry.

When they are

resolved, however, it is unlikely that we will see the
thrift industry in the same form we did a few decades ago.
In this regard, I think it is important to
appreciate that the housing finance system in the United
States is by no means the only method of providing credit to
home buyers.

Indeed, there is relatively little uniformity

across countries in the structure and behavior of housing
markets.

The relative roles of the public and private

sectors differ substantially across nations.

The degree to

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which depositories provide housing finance, or specialize in
it, also varies, as does the importance of a secondary
market for mortgage-related instruments.

It is noteworthy

that housing policies in many countries encourage home
ownership with a variety of inducements such as direct
government subsidies to home buyers, subsidized loans for
low-income citizens, and income-tax deductions for mortgage
interest.
Some portfolio lenders abroad have been more
successful in the 1980s than our own.

In a few cases, this

success has been fostered by lower inflation, while in other
cases, the degree of interest rate risk has been less than
here.

West Germany, Japan, and the United Kingdom provide

good examples of this diversity.
The housing finance system in West Germany is
complex.

Most borrowers obtain a package involving several

sources of financing for a single home purchase.

This might

include a contract savings plan in which investors make
regular contributions to a special fund over several years
to become eligible for a loan.

In addition, a borrower ^

might obtain loans through a savings bank or a mortgage
bank.

Savings banks use funds from retail deposits to make

either variable- or fixed-rate loans with five- to ten-year
terms.

Mortgage banks tend to make longer maturity fixed-

rate mortgages, raising funds by issuing mortgage bonds with
terms and maturities similar to those of the underlying

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loans.

These mortgage banks are subsidiaries of other, less

specialized, financial institutions.
Under this system, both depository lenders and
mortgage banks, by matching maturities of assets and
liabilities, have more protection from interest rate risk
than is generally the case in the thrift industry in the
United States.

Moreover, lower rates of inflation in West

Germany clearly have worked to ensure stability in their
housing finance system.
The housing finance system in Japan, like our own,
has been built on long-term lending at fixed interest rates
funded by short-term borrowing.

The major specialist

housing lender in Japan is a public-sector corporation,
however.

Funding for this corporation comes through a

postal savings plan in which individuals acquire a taxfavored, short-term claim.

This arrangement is vulnerable

to inflation and volatile interest rates, but the Japanese,
like the Germans, have been more successful in curbing
inflation and have had, as a consequence, more stable
/
interest rates.
The British inflation experience has been similar
to our own.

However, their mortgage lenders have not faced

the same problems.

The predominant British housing lenders

are the mutually structured building societies.

These

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institutions fund their mortgage portfolios through shortterm deposits, similar to passbook accounts, that have
yields that can vary with open market rates.
The important feature of the balance sheets of the
building societies is that both assets and liabilities are
variable rate.

Loan agreements have virtually no limits on

the size and frequency of rate adjustments.

Despite wide

swings in interest rates over the past decade, this
financial structure has helped building societies avoid the
liquidity and spread problems that plagued our own thrifts.
We have made progress introducing more variablerate lending along the lines of the British portfolio
lenders.

Experience thus far, however,

demonstrates a

reluctance on the part of some home-buyers in this country
to accept adjustable-rate mortgages, especially when
interest rates are relatively low.

This presents a

continuing challenge for portfolio lenders to devise
strategies for attracting borrowers to these instruments.
good many thrifts, indeed, have been quite successful in
that effort.

But I suspect, as well, that there will be a

continuing need for the industry to search for innovations
that will reduce vulnerability to the spread problems
attending fixed-rate lending.
Those of us in Washington must continue working
toward a sound economic and financial climate in which the
thrift industry can once again prosper.

For the Federal

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Reserve, this means maintaining progress toward an
environment of price stability in which the forces of
economic growth can be fostered and sustained.
But, prudent monetary policy" is not a sufficient
condition for a stable, noninflationary
Fiscal policy must also play a role.

financial climate.

Large deficits have

put considerable pressure on credit markets.

In recent

months, we have seen all too clearly how disappointments on
the deficit front can adversely affect psychology throughout
the financial markets.
Congress and the Administration have taken steps to
move toward budgetary balance.

The importance of credible

deficit reduction cannot be overemphasized.

Financial

markets around the world will continue to be subject to
shocks so long as there has not been a reasonably complete
resolution of these problems.

I hope the current

initiatives will be the first of several steps towards
increasing bipartisan cooperation in support of a long-term
policy of eliminating budget deficits and the associated
claims on the nation's and the world's saving.
Indeed, we should consider whether our nation's
long-term interests and those of the rest of the world might
be best served by a budget policy aimed at augmenting
private saving through budget surpluses.

Our inability to

raise the nation's private savings rate in recent years has
necessitated large borrowings of other nations' savings.

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There is a limit to what foreign savers can be expected to
finance of the gap between the level of capital investment
that will be needed if we are to be competitive and our
current level of domestic savings.
Even as we come to grips with our budgetary
problems, it is important to realize that the inflationary
experiences of the 1970s and early 1980s have radically, and
perhaps permanently, altered the financial landscape facing
thrift institutions.

Depositors are sensitive to the

potential for erosion of principal through inflation with
long-term fixed-rate instruments.

This represents an

impediment to institutions traditionally committed to
fixed-rate lending.
In addition, we cannot forget that we now are
increasingly a part of a global economy and thus are exposed
to influences that previously were not very significant.

An

increasing number of sectors are affected by the world
markets.

Movements in interest rates abroad and exchange

rates are rapidly transmitted to our credit markets.

In

particular, the housing sector has come to realize that
developments abroad can have an important bearing on the
domestic economic outlook.

Owing in large part to the

growing securitization of mortgage credit, our mortgage
markets are more tightly linked to credit markets at home
and abroad.

Mortgage lenders now must keep a close eye on

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external developments as well as those at home in setting
lending terms.
We can applaud many of the regulatory changes and
market innovations that have been developed to help the
thrift industry deal with spread problems in this changed
environment.

A variety of techniques effectively allow

thrifts to shorten the maturity of their assets or lengthen
the maturity of their liabilities.

More innovations are

likely to come.
Some of these changes have come as a result of
deregulation.

Deposit rate ceilings no longer constrain

thrift institutions from bidding for deposits in maturity
ranges they deem appropriate.

Changes in regulation and

some shifts in borrower attitudes have opened the door for
adjustable-rate mortgages.

ARMs are well suited for

reducing spread problems, but they have not yet become the
liquid investments that eligible fixed-rate mortgages have.
The housing agencies recently have taken measures to
strengthen the secondary market for ARMs.

This is an

encouraging development that holds further promise for the
thrift industry.
In addition, thrifts have begun to make use of a
host of new instruments including interest-rate swaps,
futures, and options for managing interest rate risk.

To

date, however, their use appears to have been limited to a
relatively small segment of the industry.

Moreover, even

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these instruments cannot eliminate all risks.

Sharp

interest rate movements earlier this year demonstrated that,
used improperly, some of these new products are themselves
very risky.
Questions also have been raised about the
protection provided by derivative instruments under
turbulent market conditions such as the October stock market
crash.

Better insight into the attributes of derivative

instruments likely will be gained by the various
investigations now underway. In any event, strategies using
these hedging instruments can be quite complicated and
require considerable skill on the part of managers.
The increasing securitization of fixed-rate
mortgages and certain consumer receivables also has been a
promising development.

Mortgage pass-through securities

have enabled long-term fixed-rate mortgages to be held in a
more liquid form, while CMOs and REMICs provide a means for
acquiring mortgage assets with maturities more closely
aligned to those of deposits.
Many of these innovations, and the process of
deregulation itself, were in part a response to the
debilitating effects of inflation.

The result of these

changes, and those to come, is an evolving thrift industry
operating in a new financial environment.

Even in a world

of price stability, the thrift industry of tomorrow will not
be the same as that of yesterday.

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Commercial banks and other financial
intermediaries, too, face major challenges.

Technological

changes, such as developments in computer and communications
technology, have irreversibly altered the relative
competitiveness of all depository institutions.
Nondepository organizations are now able to collect and
evaluate data concerning creditworthiness and credit risk.
In many cases, borrowers and lenders now can deal with each
other directly, rather than rely on the intermediation of
banks or thrifts.

Thrift institutions, in particular, are

well aware of the changing nature of competition.

They face

competition not only from commercial banks but also from
mortgage bankers and the open market generally.
In dealing with these new market realities, our job
in Washington is to foster an environment in which the
federal safety net protects against systemic risk to
depository institutions and the payments mechanism, provides
protection for insured depositors, and encourages
competitive markets in the provision of financial services.
The benefits of competition can best be achieved in a world
in which the safety net is not used to protect individual
institutions or particular types of depositories.

Rather,

financial institutions of all types must meet a market test
for the kinds of intermediation functions they provide.
Such a system will contribute most effectively to the
efficient allocation of resources in the economy.

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Thrift managers also have a job in the development
of this financial environment.

Careful and prudent

management remains an essential ingredient for the success
of the industry and for a stable source of credit to the
housing industry.

Thrift managers must realistically

address some of the past problems of their industry and
contribute in a meaningful way to the public policy debate
about the future.

The hands-on experience that you have

accumulated is vital to constructively dealing with the many
problems currently on the agenda.

Managers and regulators

can contribute most effectively to this process if they are
willing to take a broad, long-term view of issues rather
than dealing with problems in a piecemeal fashion.
Nevertheless, any progress in solving the problems
of the thrift industry and shaping a new financial system
will be transitory unless we provide a stable economic and
financial environment in which all types of institutions can
flourish.

First and foremost this requires ample fiscal

discipline as an essential element of policies to foster
sustained balanced growth and to maintain progress against
inflation.