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For release on delivery
2:15 p.m. E.S.T.
March 17, 1989

Remarks by
Alan Greenspan
Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
at a
Convocation
at
Wake Forest University
Winston-Salem, North Carolina

March 17, 1989

It is a special privilege to be here to accept an honorary
degree from this great university and to see so many old friends from
the Winston-Salem area. One of the advantages of being a private
citizen was the ability to visit a number of associates in North
Carolina and exchange sharply focused insights.
In convocations such as this, I usually spend a good deal of
time discussing what central bankers usually talk about—short-term
movements in outputf budget deficits, interest rates, inflation, foreign
exchange, trade balances, and international trade adjustment. On this
occasion, however, I think it would be useful for a change to step back
and try to discern the more deep-seated, longer-term forces that are
driving the world economy in general, and the American economy, in
particular.
One little noticed structural change that has had a profound
impact on the world economy and world politics in recent decades has
been the marked downsizing of economic output. Economic value creation
has shifted increasingly toward conceptual and impalpable values with
decidedly less reliance on physical volumes.
A half century ago, for example, our radios were bulky and
activated by large vacuum tubes. Today, owing to the insights that
developed Into modern electronics, the same function is served by
pocket-sized transistor packs. Metal beverage cans are now rolled to
thinner tolerances than was conceivable only a couple of decades ago.
Thin fiber optics is replacing vast tonnages of copper. Advances in
architecture and engineering, and the development and use of lighter but
stronger materials, now give us the same working space in newer

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buildings, with a lot less concrete, glass, and steel tonnage than was
required in an earlier era.

Space heating technology has allowed

reduction in the fabric weight of apparel, which in turn was fostered by
major advances in chemical technology.
Even the physical quantity of goods consumed in creating
economic services has been affected.

Financial transactions

historically buttressed with reams of paper are being progressively
reduced to electronic charges, though the sheer volume of activity has
kept paper usage higher. The transportation services industry, as a
result of conceptual advances, now moves more goods with greater
conveniencef while consuming substantially less fuel per ton. In
addition, passenger-miles have expanded greatly relative to the physical
materials required to build large modern jet aircraft.
The considerable increase in the economic well-being of most
nations in recent decades has come about without much change in the bulk
or weight of the gross national product. In fact, if all the weight of
materials—the tons of grain, cotton, ore, coal, steel, cement, etc.—we
produce were added up, their aggregate volume might not be much greater
today than it was, say 50 or 75 years ago. This would mean that
increases in the conceptual components of GNP—that is, those reflecting
advances in knowledge and ideas^-would explain by far the major part of
the rise in real GNP in the United States, and presumably the industrial
world as a whole.
In recent years, the conceptual contribution to economic
activity has largely reflected the explosive growth in information
gathering and processing techniques, which have greatly extended our

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analytical capabilities of substituting ideas for physical volume.
These trends almost surely will continue into the twenty-first century
and beyond.
In the years ahead, telecommunications and advanced computing
will take on an even greater role*

By facilitating the transfer of

ideas, they create value by changing the location of intellectual
property, much like the American railroads in an earlier time created
value by transferring physical goods to geographic locations where they
were of greater worth. At the turn of the century, for example, we
created economic value by moving ore from the Mesabi Range down to the
Pittsburgh district where it was joined with coking coal to produce
steel.

In today's environment, economic value is increasingly created

by moving the conceptual part of GNP—not coal or ore but data,
analyses, and insights—from one location to another through
increasingly sophisticated electronic means.
The purpose of production of economic value does not change.
It still serves human needs and values. But the form of output is
becoming increasingly less palpable.
One clear implication of economic product downsizing is a
somewhat lessened concern over the depletion of finite natural resources
in the face of growing populations. But of more immediate consequence
is the implication of downsizing on international trade, which is having
a profound effect on the policies of the world's economies.
International trade in construction gravel and fiberglass insulation,
for example, is limited by weight and bulk.

High value computer

products, on the other hand, are major and increasing factors in world

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trade.

Obviously, the less the bulk, and the lower the weight, the

easier it is to move goods; specifically, the easier it is to move them
across national boundaries.
It is not surprising, therefore, to find that after adjusting
for average export price change, pounds shipped per real dollar of
exports have fallen an average of almost 3-1/2 percent per year since
1970.

Pounds shipped per real dollar of U.S. imports declined even

more, an average of 4.7 percent per year.

Reflecting the downsizing of

tradable goods, the share of U.S. foreign trade carried by air has
doubled since 1970. On a global basis, the real value of ti.ade has
grown at a 5 percent annual rate over the past two decades,
significantly outstripping the growth in world domestic demand.

In

tonnage termsf of course, the increase has been far less.
Also implicit in the downsizing of product is the increased
integration of some of the world's production facilities.

Inflationary

bottlenecks tend to emerge when domestic productive facilities are
pressed to capacity by burgeoning demand.

But if additional supplies

from other world producers can be made readily and quickly available,
such pressures can be significantly allayed.

The cost of moving

construction gravel across continents makes it difficult to envisage
foreign .gravel pits as backup for excess domestic demand.

But the ease

with which downsized electronic components can be moved essentially
integrates much of the world's electronic component capacity.

Thus, as

we progress toward general downsizing of economic output, worldwide
production and inventory controls become far more feasible and
inflationary dislocations less likely.

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But the increased ease with which economic goods and services
can spill over national borders creates a major dilemma for the
political structure of a country inclined to inhibit such movement.

The

political leadership must increasingly accelerate the protectionist
blocking of goods and services, or open up their economy to a more
market oriented, and less domestically regimented, system.
Advancing technology is clearly creating pressure on autarkic
political systems in areas beyond the realm of international trade in
economic values. The development of satellite technology, for example,
and the ability to transmit television pictures across national
boundaries undercuts political censorship of the media.

Governments

must then either acquiesce in new political freedoms or produce
increasingly harsh regimes.
To dater however, the political response to the technological
impact on trade has been, to a surprising extent, liberal (with a small
"1").

Glasnost has a foothold in eastern Europe and Perestroika

worldwide.

The Increasing international economic pressures of recent

decades have exposed the economic inadequacies of the centrally directed
economies of the Eastern Bloc and, to only a somewhat lesser extent, the
partially centrally planned economies of the West.
The breakdown of political barriers to the inexorable pressures
of cross-border movements of economic goods is especially visible on the
European continent*

Jind the evolving newly industrialized countries of

the Far East, capitalizing on their ability to exploit the downsizing
technologies of the 1980s, have flourished beyond expectations.
models, in turn, have had a profound effect on the less developed

These

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countries of the world where discarding of centrally planned economies
has accelerated, and the old heated so-called north-south political
debates of a decade earlier have faded.
The choice of the European community to move toward further
integration by 1992 is reflecting international economic pressures. The
unwinding of intra-common market capital controls will accelerate the
free movement of capital across European borders. This in turn will
require increasing coordination of monetary policies or risk major
destabilizing capital flows should central banks' policies diverge. But
coordination of policies presupposes the foregoing of full sovereignty
o^er a nation's affairs. Thus, implicit in the movement toward economic
integration is increasing adherence of domestic European economic
policies to international economic pressures generally.
Countries/ however, can eschew international economic
cooperation.

They can move in a severely protectionist direction.

But

the extraordinary downsizing of goods will make protectionism
increasingly difficult to sustain in the years ahead/ in the same sense
that repressive national governments will have difficulty in blocking
the satellite transmitted flow of ideas to their people.
Certainly, a major world economic disruption could induce a
hasty resurrecting of the protectionist walls of an earlier era. But
technology is irreversible. The downsizing of goods will continue. As
a consequence^ the ability to suppress worldwide trade will become
progressively more difficult in the decades ahead.
By spurring the growth of trade and the linkage of world
commercial and financial markets/ technology-led forces are altering

international economic relationships. One obvious consequence has been
the emergence of an ongoing institutional structure to deal with the
problems of a more interdependent world economy.

Since the mid-1970s,

the leaders of the seven major industrial countries have been holding
annual economic summit meetings, and the finance ministers and central
bank governors of the Group of Seven now meet frequently to deal with
current issues. This process is bound to expand and become ever more
pervasive as the cross border trade in goods and services grows as a
proportion of world domestic demand.

Indeed, the benefits of increasing

trade will likely foe a major underlying force galvanizing productivity
and economic growth as the world moves towards the new century.
But in this new evolving environment can America maintain the
preeminence in the next century that it has had during the past century?
In the world of physical materials, America in the past has been
associated with the skyscraper and huge hydro-electric complexes. The
vast industrial complexes of Middle America were characterized at midcentury by our unquestioned dominance of the quintessential industry of
the physical materials age, namely, steel.
But can the United States make it in the world of down-sized
products in the 21st century?

The challenges are great, but history

suggests we will meet them.*
Obviously, to th@ extent that economic value added is going to
become increasingly conceptually oriented/ the major "capital" of the
next century is going to be minds that produce ideas.

I certainly don't

want to say to you, even in this institution of higher learning, that
formal education is synonymous with the creation of a conceptually

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oriented work force. American history is strewn with examples of great
inventors with less than impressive formal education credentials.
Nonetheless, more and higher quality education must be presumed to be
crucial in America's competition with our industrial partners for
economic world leadership.
But there are disturbing signs in education. Many thoughtful
observers are concerned that our students are not being prepared
adequately to meet the demands of an increasingly sophisticated society.
Test scores and survey results alike point to a deterioration over time
in the quality of American pre-college education. Moreover, the
performance of our secondary school students falls far short of the
norms for other advanced countries, especially in the relevant technical
subjects like mathematics and the sciences.
Various studies have underscored the need for substantial
improvements, with respect both to the strengthening of basic skills:
reading, writing, and mathematics; and to the development of higher
analytical and technical capabilities. Various studies, I am told, have
concluded that students are not being challenged adequately—either in
the classroom or in their homework assignments.
A Presidential report in 1988 found that the situation has
started to improve*

Inflation-adjusted outlays for education, which had

been flat on a per pupil basis in the second half of the 1970s, have
turned around.

Since 1980, they have increased roughly 30 percent;

class size and teacher loads have been reduced; and steady increases in
salaries should be attracting better teachers into the schools.
However, with the children of the baby-boomers now entering school,

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education budgets will be under pressure from rising enrollments, as
well as from competition with other public activities for scarce
dollars.
I do not underestimate the difficulty of turning the education
system aroundf and I am sure that dollars alone are not enough.

The

issues are extraordinarily complex, and there are no clear-cut answers.
President Bush has made education a priority of his Administration, and
his budget proposals contained a number of initiatives to widen the pool
of teachers, to recognize and reward quality in the schools, and to
combat the drug and health problems that undermine efforts in many
areas.

His proposals seem to me to be pointing in the right direction.
While we may view idea-generating minds as the new economic

capital of the next century, the old forms of capital—plant and
equipment—will still play a significant role in the nation's ability to
add conceptual value to an ever increasingly down-sized array of
products. We must maintain a high level of business investment, in
order to equip our production facilities with the most up-to-date
technology and machinery.
have been disturbing.

But here toof as in education, recent trends

Investment net of depreciation—that is, the

portion of investment spending that actually increases the nation's
capital stock, rather than merely replaces wornout equipment and
structures—declined perceptibly as a share of GNP in the 1980s. The
effect this had on our productive capacity has been offset, to some
extent, by increased productivity of certain short-lived capital such as
computers; nonetheless, the quantity and quality of investment has been
inadequate to speed the growth of productivity.

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Prospects for investment in coming years will reflect many
factors, but ultimately will depend in large part on the amount of
saving available for capital formation.

In the 1980s, a large inflow of

capital from abroad has made it possible to finance both the federal
budget deficit and a high level of gross private (as distinct from net)
investment without untenable pressures on credit markets.

However, a

country cannot depend forever upon foreign saving; at some point, we
shall have to rely more fully on our own resources.
The enactment of sizable reductions in the federal budget
deficit is the surest way to raise domestic saving.

I am mindful that,

because of significant efforts by the Executive Branch and the Congress
in past years, coupled with strong economic growth, the deficit has
shrunk from 5 or 6 percent of GNP in the mid-1980s to only a bit above 3
percent today.

Nonetheless, the deficit is still unacceptably large,

and action is vital.
Ideally, private saving should pick up as well.

It is

difficult to explain why saving by households and business has fallen to
such low levels recently.

Some arguments, such as the association

between reduced saving and the surging stock market between 1982 and
1987, suggest that the extremely low saving rate is a temporary
aberration.

Indeed, the personal saving rate has moved up some since

the stock market crash; though remaining well below historical norms, it
was a full percentage point higher in 1988 than in 1987.

Other factors

believed to have depressed saving out of current income, such as the
buildup of readily accessible homeowners' equity and more widespread
disability and life insurance coverage, are likely to persist.

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Meanwhile, "big-ticket" items are increasingly easy to finance; terms on
loans for new cars, for example, have become more flexible, and the
advent of home equity lines of credit has made it much simpler to borrow
against the value of one's house.
In any event, public policy actions that will boost private
saving have yet to be designed.

Studies suggest that the numerous tax

changes over the years that were intended to encourage saving have
merely shifted saving from one pile to another, without much impact on
the total.
Fortunately, while the recent experience has been discouraging,
our history suggests that in the past we have saved and invested at much
higher rates and hence can presumably do so again.

Indeed, it would be

difficult to explain how the United States evolved into the world's
leading economic power if we did not outsave and outinvest our
competition in decades past.
In the period following the Civil War, when the United States
began to emerge as an economic power, our saving and investment rates,
as conventionally measured, were much higher than those in Europe and
Japan.

For example, between 1870 and 1910, domestic saving in the

United States averaged close to 20 percent of GNP.

The best available

estimates for Japan and Germany during that period place their saving
rates at 15 percent or less.

The saving rate in Great Britain, which

was fading in pre-eminence, was closer to 10 percent.
The shift toward a relatively and absolutely low U.S. saving
rate began during the Great Depression, when it fell dramatically.

In

the decades after World War II, it stabilized at a level slightly below

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its pre-Depression averagef and it has fallen further in the most recent
period.

Saving rates in Japan and Germany have declined some in the

past two decades, following their surge in the post-World War II
recovery period, but they remain substantially above those in the United
States. The high saving rates in these countries have been mirrored in
rapid rates of capital formation, which have helped them improve their
Competitiveness relative to the United States and close much of the gap
in living standards.
Clearly we are being challenged as we have numerous times in
the past.

I was brought up in an age when Americans could seemingly do

anything one put one/s mind to.

The current generation of younger

Americans seem if anything more determined and skilled than those of us
who reached adulthood at mid-century.

Our heritage suggests that

whatever the challenges the next decades of downsized output and
international competition and cooperation bring, Americans will prevail.