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For release on delivery
8:20 p.m. EST
December 19, 2002

Remarks by
Alan Greenspan
Chairman
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before
The Economic Club of New York
New York, N.Y.
December 19, 2002

Issues for Monetary Policy
Although the gold standard could hardly be portrayed as having produced a period of
price tranquility, it was the case that the price level in 1929 was not much different, on net, from
what it had been in 1800. But, in the two decades following the abandonment of the gold
standard in 1933, the consumer price index in the United States nearly doubled. And, in the four
decades after that, prices quintupled. Monetary policy, unleashed from the constraint of domestic
gold convertibility, had allowed a persistent overissuance of money. As recently as a decade ago,
central bankers, having witnessed more than a half-century of chronic inflation, appeared to
confirm that a fiat currency was inherently subject to excess.
But the adverse consequences of excessive money growth for financial stability and
economic performance provoked a backlash. Central banks were finally pressed to rein in
overissuance of money even at the cost of considerable temporary economic disruption. By
1979, the need for drastic measures had become painfully evident in the United States. The
Federal Reserve, under the leadership of Paul Volcker and with the support of both the Carter
and the Reagan Administrations, dramatically slowed the growth of money. Initially, the
economy fell into recession and inflation receded. However, most important, when activity
staged a vigorous recovery, the progress made in reducing inflation was largely preserved. By
the end of the 1980s, the inflation climate was being altered dramatically.
The record of the past twenty years appears to underscore the observation that, although
pressures for excess issuance of fiat money are chronic, a prudent monetary policy maintained
over a protracted period can contain the forces of inflation. With the story of most major
economies in the postwar period being the emergence of, and then battle against inflation,
concerns about deflation, one of the banes of an earlier century, seldom surfaced. The recent

-2experience of Japan has certainly refocused attention on the possibility that an unanticipated fall
in the general price level would convert the otherwise relatively manageable level of nominal
debt held by households and businesses into a corrosive rising level of real debt and real debt
service costs. It now appears that we have learned that deflation, as well as inflation, are in the
long run monetary phenomena, to extend Milton Friedman's famous dictum.
To be sure, in the short to medium run, many forces are at play that complicate the link
between money and prices. The widening globalization of market economies in recent years, for
example, is integrating a growing share of previously local capacity into an operationally
meaningful world total. That process has, at least for a time, brought substantial new supplies of
goods and services to global markets. In addition, the more rapid rate of technological
innovation, so evident in the United States, has boosted the pace at which our productive
potential is expanding. These shifts in aggregate supply—whether foreign or domestic in
origin—influence the relationship between money and prices. Moreover, the tie between money
and prices can be altered by dysfunctional financial intermediation, as we have witnessed in
Japan. Thus, recent experience understandably has stimulated policymakers worldwide to
refocus on deflation and its consequences, decades after dismissing it as a possibility so remote
that it no longer warranted serious attention.
The meaning of deflation and the characteristics that differentiate it from the more usual
experience of inflation are subjects being actively studied inside and outside of central banks. As
I testified before the Congress last month, the United States is nowhere close to sliding into a
pernicious deflation. Moreover, a major objective of the recent heightened level of scrutiny is to

-3ensure that any latent deflationary pressures are appropriately addressed well before they became
a problem.
* **
Central bankers have long believed that price stability is conducive to achieving
maximum sustainable growth. Historically, debilitating risk premiums have tended to rise with
both expected inflation and deflation, and they have been minimized during conditions of
approximate price stability.
Although the U.S. economy has largely escaped any deflation since World War II, there
are some well-founded reasons to presume that deflation is more of a threat to economic growth
than is inflation. For one, the lower bound on nominal interest rates at zero threatens ever-rising
real rates if deflation intensifies. A related consequence is that even if debtors are able to
refinance loans at zero nominal interest rates, they may still face high and rising real rates that
cause their balance sheets to deteriorate.
Another concern about deflation resides in labor markets. Some studies have suggested
that nominal wages do not easily adjust downward. If lower price inflation is accompanied by
lower average wage inflation, then the prevalence of nominal wages being constrained from
falling could increase as price inflation moves toward or below zero. In these circumstances, the
effective clearing of labor markets would be inhibited, with the consequence being higher rates
of unemployment.
Taken together, these considerations suggest that deflation could well be more damaging
than inflation to economic growth. While this asymmetry should not be overlooked, several
factors limit its significance. In particular, more rapid advances in productivity can make this

-4asymmetry less severe. Fast growth of productivity, by buoying expectations of future advances
of wages and earnings and thus aggregate demand, enables real interest rates to be higher than
would otherwise be the case without restricting economic growth. Moreover, to the extent that
more-rapid growth of productivity shows through to faster gains in nominal wages, there will be
fewer instances in which nominal wages will be pressured to fall.
One also should not overstate the difficulties posed for monetary policy by the zero bound
on interest rates and nominal wage inflexibility even in the absence of faster productivity growth.
The expansion of the monetary base can proceed even if overnight rates are driven to their zero
lower bound. The Federal Reserve has authority to purchase Treasury securities of any maturity
and indeed already purchases such securities as part of its procedures to keep the overnight rate at
its desired level. This authority could be used to lower interest rates at longer maturities. Such
actions have precedent: Between 1942 and 1951, the Federal Reserve put a ceiling on
longer-term Treasury yields at 2-1/2 percent. With respect to potential difficulties in labor
markets, results from research remain ambiguous on the extent and persistence of downward
rigidity in nominal compensation.
Clearly, it would be desirable to avoid deflation. But if deflation were to develop, options
for an aggressive monetary policy response are available.
** *
Fortunately, the ability of our economy to weather the many shocks inflicted on it since
the spring of 2000 attests to our market system's remarkable resilience. That characteristic is far
more evident today than two or three decades ago. There may be numerous causes of this

-5increased resilience.1 Among them, ongoing efforts to liberalize global trade have added
flexibility to many aspects of our economy over time. Furthermore, a quarter-century of
bipartisan deregulation has significantly reduced inflexibilities in our markets for energy,
transportation, communication, and financial services. And, of course, the dramatic gains in
information technology have markedly improved the ability of businesses to address festering
economic imbalances before they inflict significant damage. This improved ability has been
further facilitated by the increasing willingness of our workers to embrace innovation more
generally. Irrespective of how deflationary forces might influence it, our economy has the benefit
of enhanced flexibility, which has, at least to date, allowed us to withstand the potentially
destabilizing effects of some substantial negative shocks.

1

A considerable economics literature in recent years has documented a decline in the
volatility of real GDP over the past two decades. Some researchers have argued that the decline
in volatility is the result of smaller disturbances to the macroeconomy. Others have argued that
improved monetary policy should be credited for the reduction. Another line of work points to
structural changes that have increased the flexibility of the economy to respond to shocks. In that
vein, I have argued that advances in information technology and the cumulative effects of a
quarter century of deregulation have likely played a major role in promoting the increased
flexibility of our economy. Of course, these explanations are not mutually exclusive and could,
indeed, be interconnected.
But to the extent that this resilience reflects increased flexibility of the economy, we
should be searching for policies that will further enhance economic flexibility and dismantling
policies that contribute to unnecessary rigidity. The more flexible an economy is, the greater is
its ability to self-correct to inevitable disturbances, reducing the size and consequences of
cyclical imbalances. An implication is that, at any given point in time, the economy is more
likely to be producing close to its productive potential. So often, discussion of policies intended
to improve macroeconomic performance have focused solely on traditional monetary and fiscal
policies. But structural policies intended to promote flexibility may be an important complement
to standard macro policies, and they may be important enough to influence both the cyclical
performance and long-run growth potential of the economy. This issue surely deserves
examination and debate.

-6* **
Certainly, lurking in the background of any evaluation of deflation risks is the concern
that those forces could be unleashed by a bursting bubble in asset prices. This connection, real or
speculative, raises some interesting questions about the most effective approach to the conduct of
monetary policy. If the bursting of an asset bubble creates economic dislocation, then preventing
bubbles might seem an attractive goal. But whether incipient bubbles can be detected in real
time and whether, once detected, they can be defused without inadvertently precipitating still
greater adverse consequences for the economy remain in doubt.
It may be useful, as a first step, to consider both the economic circumstances most likely
to impede the development of bubbles and the circumstances most conducive to their formation.
Destabilizing macroeconomic policies and poor economic performance are not likely to provide
fertile ground for the optimism that usually accompanies surging asset prices.
Ironically, low inflation, economic stability, and low risk premiums may provide tinder
for asset price speculation that could be sparked should technological innovations open up new
opportunities for profitable investment. Even in such circumstances, bubble pricing is likely to
be inhibited for a company with a history. To be sure, the stock prices of old-line companies do
rise somewhat through arbitrage when the market as a whole is propelled higher by stock prices
of cutting-edge technologies. But it is difficult to imagine stock prices of most well-established
and seasoned old-line companies surging to wholly unsustainable heights. With some prominent
exceptions, their capabilities for future profits have been largely tested and delimited.
The situation is likely different in the case of a new company that employs an innovative
technology. Under these circumstances, the dispersion of rationally imagined possible future

-7outcomes could be wide. If forecasts are unfettered by a need for consistency with the past,
investors might take off on unwarranted flights of optimism. Moreover, skeptics find it too
expensive or too risky to short sell the shares of such a company, especially when its stock price
is rising rapidly.
The conditions of extended low inflation and low risk were combined with breakthrough
technologies to produce the bubble of recent years. But do such conditions always produce a
bubble? It seems improbable that a surge in innovation in the near future would generate a new
bubble of substantial proportions. Investors are likely to be sensitive to the need for asset prices
to be backed ultimately by an ongoing stream of earnings. Hence, a further necessary condition
for the emergence of a bubble is the passage of sufficient time to erode the traumatic memories
of earlier post-bubble experiences.
***
Most standard macroeconomic models fitted to the experience of recent decades imply
that a distortion in valuation ratios induced by a bubble can be offset by adopting a sufficiently
restrictive monetary policy. According to such models, a tighter monetary policy, on average,
credibly constrains demand and lowers asset prices, all else being equal. These models can also
be interpreted to suggest that incremental monetary tightening can gradually deflate stock prices.
But that conclusion is a consequence of the model's construction. It is not based on evidence
drawn from history. In fact, history indicates that bubbles tend to deflate not gradually and
linearly but suddenly, unpredictably, and often violently. In addition, the degree of monetary
tightening that would be required to contain or offset a bubble of any substantial dimension

-8appears to be so great as to risk an unacceptable amount of collateral damage to the wider
economy.
The evidence of recent years, as well as the events of the late 1920s, casts doubt on the
proposition that bubbles can be defused gradually. As I related this summer at the annual
Jackson Hole symposium sponsored by the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank, "...our
experience over the past fifteen years suggests that monetary tightening that deflates stock price
without depressing economic activity has often been associated with subsequent increases in the
level of stock prices....Such data suggest that nothing short of a sharp increase in short-term rat
that engenders a significant economic retrenchment is sufficient to check a nascent bubble. The
notion that a well-timed incremental tightening could have been calibrated to prevent the late
1990s bubble is almost surely illusion."2
In short, unless a model can be specified to capture the apparent market tendency toward
bidding stock prices higher in response to monetary policies aimed at maintaining
macroeconomic stability, the accompanying forecasts will belie recent experience. Faced with
this uncertainty, the Federal Reserve has focused on policies that would, as I testified before the
Congress in 1999, "...mitigate the fallout [of an asset bubble] when it occurs and, hopefully, ease
the transition to the next expansion."3 The Federal Open Market Committee chose, as you know,
to embark on an aggressive course of monetary easing two years ago once it became apparent

2

Alan Greenspan, "Economic Volatility," August 30, 2002, at a symposium sponsored
the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
3

Committee on Banking and Financial Services, U.S. House of Representatives,
July 22, 1999.

-9that a variety of forces, including importantly the slump in household wealth that resulted from
the decline in stock prices, were restraining inflation pressures and economic activity.
It is too soon to judge the final outcome of the strategy that we adopted. The
contractionary impulse from the decline in equity prices appeared to be diminishing around the
middle of this year. But then the fallout for stock prices from corporate governance malfeasance,
argued by some as having been spawned by the bubble, became more intense. This, in turn,
damped capital investment and trimmed inventory plans. More recently, of course, geopolitical
risk has risen markedly, further weighing on demand. Though unrelated to the bubble burst of
2000, it has muddied the evaluation of the post-bubble economy.
If the postmortem of recent monetary policy shows that the results of addressing the
bubble only after it bursts are unsatisfactory, we would be left with less-appealing choices for the
future. In that case, finding ways to identify bubbles and to contain their progress would be
desirable, though history cautions that prospects for success appear slim.
The difficulties that policymakers and private agents face become especially acute as an
economic expansion lengthens. The decline in risk premiums under these circumstances
presumably results, in part, from rational appraisals. In an economy in which the business cycle
has averaged four years in length over a protracted period, households and businesses would
doubtless become more cautious in the fourth year of a new cycle. But how do they behave
when, as for the past two decades, expansions have been long and cyclical downturns have been
exceptionally rare? After five or six years of uninterrupted expansion, is it irrational or even
unreasonable to assume that expansion would continue for the subsequent six months? Thus, it
was disturbing to observe risk seemingly being priced so cheaply in late 1997 when BBB

-10corporate spreads over ten-year Treasuries sunk to only 70 basis points. That spread is now
about 250 basis points, although it has narrowed significantly in recent weeks.
** *
Weaving a monetary policy path through the thickets of bubbles and deflations and their
possible aftermath is not something with which modern central bankers have had much
experience.
As I noted earlier, it seems ironic that a monetary policy that is successful in inducing
stability may inadvertently be sowing the seeds of instability associated with asset bubbles. I
trust that the use by the central bank of deliberately inflationary policy as protection against
bubbles can be readily dismissed. While the current episode has not yet concluded, it appears
that, responding vigorously in a relatively flexible economy to the aftermath of bubbles, as
traumatic as that may be, is less inhibiting to long-term growth than chronic high-inflation
monetary policy. Moderate inflation might possibly inhibit bubbles, though at some cost of
reduced economic efficiency. However, I doubt that such policies could be sustained or
well-controlled by central banks. Among our realistically limited alternatives, dealing
aggressively with the aftermath of a bubble appears the most likely to avert long-term damage to
the economy.4
4

Some argue that bubbles can be prevented or defused by financial regulatory initiatives
It is observed that asset bubbles have often been associated with rapid credit expansion, and
hence it is claimed that restraining credit growth could quash nascent bubbles. A bubble could
conceivably be defused by restrictive credit regulations that stifle economic growth. It is by no
means clear, however, that such a regime would be more conducive to wealth creation over time
than our current regulatory system. Also of relevance, in a vibrant financial system, such as
exists in the United States, there will always be many avenues available to investors for financing
a bubble. Furthermore, many analysts maintain that stocks are priced at the margin by
institutions with little or no financing needs.

-11Regardless of history's verdict on a policy that addresses only the aftermath of bubbles,
we still need to improve our understanding of the dynamics of bubbles and deflation to contain
the latter, if not the former.
***
Before closing this evening, I would like to take a few minutes to address recent
economic developments.
As I pointed out earlier, the U.S. economy exhibited considerable resilience to a series of
post-boom shocks. The list is rather impressive: First, a halving of stock prices and household
equity wealth; second, a dramatic decline in capital expenditures; third, the tragic events of
September 11; fourth, the disturbing evidence of corporate malfeasance; and fifth, the recent
escalation of geopolitical risks. I would scarcely state that our economy was not shaken by these
series of shocks, one on top of the other. But after we experienced a mild recession, real GDP
grew in excess of 3 percent over the year ending in the third quarter.
The recovery, however, ran into resistance in the summer, apparently as a consequence of
a renewed weakening in equity prices, further revelations of corporate malfeasance, and then the
heightened geopolitical risks. Concern on our part led the Federal Open Market Committee to
reduce its targeted federal funds rate 50 basis points at our early November meeting as some
insurance against the possibility that the weakening would gain some footing. Although our
most probable forecast already was that growth would pick up, we judged the cost of the
insurance provided by additional easing as exceptionally modest because we viewed the risk of
an imminent rise in inflation as remote.

-12The limited evidence since the November easing has supported our view that the U.S.
economy has been working its way through a soft patch. And the patch has certainly been soft.
The labor market has remained subdued, as businesses apparently have been reluctant to add to
payrolls. The manufacturing sector remains especially damped, and nonresidential construction
has trended lower. By all reports, state and local governments continue to struggle with
deterioration in their fiscal conditions. Oil prices have recently risen and, not least, the
economies of most of our major trading partners have shown little vigor.
Still, low interest rates and rapid advances in productivity have been providing
considerable support to economic activity. Those influences have been most evident on
consumer spending and new home sales, which have been remarkably firm this year. Motor
vehicle sales have been supported by low financing costs, by high levels of customer incentives,
and by high rates of vehicle scrappage and multiple car ownership. More broadly, strong growth
of labor productivity, supplemented by reduced tax payments, has provided a boost both to
incomes and to spending. Meanwhile, new home sales have been buoyed by low mortgage
interest rates as well as favorable demographics.
Cash borrowed in the process of mortgage refinancing, an important support for
consumer outlays this past year, is bound to contract at some point, as average interest rates on
households' total mortgage portfolio converges to interest rates on new mortgages. However,
applications for refinancing, while off their peaks, remain high. Moreover, simply processing the
backlog of earlier applications will take some time, and this factor alone suggests continued
significant refinancing originations and cash-outs into the early months of 2003.

-13Corporate risk-taking underwent pronounced retrenchment following the traumatic
disclosures of corporate malfeasance this summer. Capital appropriations slowed noticeably
across a broad spectrum of American industries. Aggressive accounting practices seemingly
disappeared virtually overnight. I would not be surprised if further disclosures of questionable
practices were to surface in the months ahead, but I would be quite surprised if such practices
were introduced after mid-2002.
Since early October, conditions in financial markets have turned less adverse. Stock
prices have, on net, moved up, and corporate yield spreads, especially for
below-investment-grade debt instruments, have narrowed significantly. Those spreads,
nevertheless, remain quite elevated relative to their readings of early 2000. Credit derivative
default swaps have improved recently in line with yield spreads. The overall cost of business
capital has clearly declined, inducing in recent weeks increased issuance of bonds of all grades
and halting the runoff of commercial paper and business bank loans.
The recent increase in the expansion of business credit may hint at some stirring in capital
investment, but it is simply too early to tell. There is evidence that some corporate managers are
beginning to tentatively venture out on the risk scale. New orders for capital goods equipment
and software, after falling sharply over the preceding two years, have stabilized and in some
cases turned up in nominal terms thisyear— an improvement, to be sure, but not necessarily the
beginnings of a vigorous recovery.
In the end, capital investment will be most dependent on the outlook for profits and the
resolution of the uncertainties surrounding the business outlook and the geopolitical situation.
These considerations at present impose a rather formidable barrier to new investment. Profit

-14margins have been running a little higher this year than last, aided importantly by strong growth
in labor productivity. But a lack of pricing power remains evident for most corporations. A
more vigorous and broad-based pickup in capital spending will almost surely require further
gains in corporate profits and cash flows.
A full enumeration of the caveats surrounding the economic outlook would, as usual, be
lengthy. But often-cited concerns about the levels of debt and debt-servicing costs of households
and firms appear a bit stretched. The combination of household mortgage and consumer debt as
a share of disposable income has moved up to a historically high level. But the upward trend in
the series reflects, in part, financial innovations that have increased access to credit markets for
many households. These innovations include the development of a deep secondary market for
home mortgages, along with the advent of credit scoring and automated underwriting models that
have enhanced the ability of loan officers and credit card companies to identify good credit risks.
These innovations lower the risk level of any given amount of debt.
To be sure, the mortgage debt of homeowners relative to their income is high by historical
norms. But, as a consequence of low interest rates, the servicing requirement for that debt
relative to homeowners' income is roughly in line with the historical average. Moreover, owing
to continued large gains in residential real estate values, equity in homes has continued to rise
despite very large debt-financed extractions. Adding in the fixed costs associated with other
financial obligations, such as rental payments of tenants, consumer installment credit, and auto
leases, the total servicing costs faced by households relative to their income appears somewhat
elevated compared with longer-run averages. But arguably they are not a significant cause for
concern.

-15Some strain from corporate debt burdens became evident as rates of return on capital
projects financed with debt fell short of expectations over the past several years. While overall
debt has not been paid down, corporations have significantly increased holdings of cash and have
reduced their near-term debt obligations by issuing bonds to pay down commercial paper and
bank loans.
* **
In early 2000, as financial imbalances and increased risk brought the surge in capital
investment to an end, significant profitable opportunities remained to be exploited. One must
presume that they still exist and may well have been enlarged by subsequent technological
advances. Indeed, one of the most remarkable features of the performance of the U.S. economy
over the past year had been the extraordinary gains in productivity. The increase in output per
hour over the year ending in the third-quarter-5-1/2 percent-was the largest increase in several
decades. That pace will not likely be sustained, but it suggests that the underlying supports to
productivity growth have not yet fully played out. Against that background, any significant fall
in the current geopolitical and other risks should noticeably improve capital outlays, the
indispensable spur to a path of increased economic growth.

In summary, as we focus on the dangers of bubbles, deflation, and excess capacity, the
marked improvement in the degree of flexibility and resilience exhibited by our economy in
recent years should afford us considerable comfort for now. Still, economic policymakers are
having to grapple with what seems to be a much larger portfolio of problems than that which our
predecessors appeared to face a half-century ago. The ever-growing complexity of our global

-16economic and financial system surely plays a role. Moreover, the very technologies that have
helped us reap enormous efficiencies have also presented us with new challenges by increasing
our interconnectedness.
I venture that future invitees to the Economic Club of New York dinners will not lack
interesting problems to address.