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THE SEMIANNUAL TESTIMONY ON THE FEDERAL
RESERVE’S SUPERVISION AND REGULATION OF
THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM

HEARING
BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON
BANKING, HOUSING, AND URBAN AFFAIRS
UNITED STATES SENATE
ONE HUNDRED FIFTEENTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
ON
EXAMINING THE EFFORTS, ACTIVITIES, OBJECTIVES, AND PLANS OF
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD WITH RESPECT TO THE CONDUCT,
SUPERVISION, AND REGULATION OF FINANCIAL FIRMS SUPERVISED
BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

NOVEMBER 15, 2018

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COMMITTEE ON BANKING, HOUSING, AND URBAN AFFAIRS
MIKE CRAPO, Idaho, Chairman
RICHARD C. SHELBY, Alabama
SHERROD BROWN, Ohio
BOB CORKER, Tennessee
JACK REED, Rhode Island
PATRICK J. TOOMEY, Pennsylvania
ROBERT MENENDEZ, New Jersey
DEAN HELLER, Nevada
JON TESTER, Montana
TIM SCOTT, South Carolina
MARK R. WARNER, Virginia
BEN SASSE, Nebraska
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts
TOM COTTON, Arkansas
HEIDI HEITKAMP, North Dakota
MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
JOE DONNELLY, Indiana
DAVID PERDUE, Georgia
BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
THOM TILLIS, North Carolina
CHRIS VAN HOLLEN, Maryland
JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana
CATHERINE CORTEZ MASTO, Nevada
JERRY MORAN, Kansas
DOUG JONES, Alabama
GREGG RICHARD, Staff Director
MARK POWDEN, Democratic Staff Director
JOE CARAPIET, Chief Counsel
BRANDON BEALL, Professional Staff Member
LAURA SWANSON, Democratic Deputy Staff Director
ELISHA TUKU, Democratic Chief Counsel
AMANDA FISCHER, Democratic Professional Staff Member
DAWN RATLIFF, Chief Clerk
CAMERON RICKER, Deputy Clerk
JAMES GUILIANO, Hearing Clerk
SHELVIN SIMMONS, IT Director
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THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 2018

U.S. SENATE,
URBAN AFFAIRS,
Washington, DC.
The Committee met at 10:01 a.m., in room SD–538, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Mike Crapo, Chairman of the Committee,
presiding.
COMMITTEE

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BANKING, HOUSING,

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OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN MIKE CRAPO

Chairman CRAPO. The Committee will come to order.
Today we will receive testimony from Federal Reserve Vice
Chairman for Supervision Randy Quarles regarding the efforts, activities, objectives, and plans of the Federal Reserve Board with respect to the conduct, supervision, and regulation of financial firms
supervised by the Federal Reserve Board.
We last heard from Vice Chairman Quarles in October on the
Fed’s progress implementing S. 2155, the Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act.
At that time the Fed had taken actions to implement some provisions of S. 2155, including those related to the 18-month exam
cycle, high-volatility commercial real estate, and the Small Bank
Holding Company Policy Statement.
Since then, the Fed has taken new steps to implement key provisions of the bill.
Recently, the Fed issued proposals revising the application of enhanced prudential standards across four categories of firms to reflect each category’s varying risks. These proposals are a step in
the right direction, and I appreciate the Fed’s work to issue them
quickly.
I understand the amount of staff work that went into getting the
proposals out, and thank you and your staff for your work on these
proposals.
The proposals would assign banking organizations to one of four
categories based on their size and other risk-based indicators, including cross-jurisdictional activity; nonbank assets; short-term
wholesale funding; off-balance-sheet exposures; and status as a
U.S. global systemically important bank, or a U.S. G–SIB.
The category to which an institution is assigned would determine
the enhanced prudential standards and capital and liquidity requirements to which it would be subject.
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I look forward to hearing how the application of certain enhanced
prudential standards would address the risks associated with crossjurisdictional activity, nonbank assets, short-term wholesale funding, and off-balance-sheet exposures.
The proposal incorporates a number of very positive changes to
the current framework for regional banks, including relief from advanced approaches capital requirements; a reduced liquidity coverage ratio; changes to the frequency of supervisory and companyrun stress testing, and, in some cases, the disclosure of the results.
Despite this positive step, the agencies have left a number of
items unaddressed, including the treatment of foreign banking organizations; additional details on stress testing, including the Fed’s
Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review, or CCAR; and resolution planning.
I encourage the regulators to revisit all regulation and guidance
thresholds that were consistent with the outdated Section 165
threshold to an amount that reflects actual systemic risk.
Regulators have two options: use a systemic risk factors-based
approach, or raise all thresholds to at least $250 billion in total assets to be consistent with S. 2155.
There are also other noteworthy provisions of the bill on which
the Fed, working with other regulators, has yet to act, including
implementation of the Community Bank Leverage Ratio and the
provision that exempted cash deposits placed at central banks by
custody banks from the supplemental leverage ratio. The Fed
should work promptly to issue proposals to address these critical
outstanding issues.
I was encouraged by Vice Chairman Quarles’ speech last week,
particularly the emphasis on providing more transparency around
stress testing and capital planning processes.
Finally, last week all Republican Members of the Banking Committee sent a letter to the FDIC on Operation Choke Point.
Operation Choke Point is an initiative in which Federal agencies
devised and relied upon a list of politically disfavored merchant
categories with the intent of ‘‘choking off’’ these merchants’ access
to payment systems and banking services.
Staff at the banking agencies use verbal recommendations to encourage banks to stop doing business with disfavored but legal
businesses.
I plan to look into how policy is communicated from the banking
agencies to the regulated institutions more broadly.
I appreciate Vice Chairman Quarles joining us today to discuss
developments in the Fed’s supervision and regulation and look forward to hearing more about the Fed’s pending work to implement
Senate bill 2155.
Senator Brown.
OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR SHERROD BROWN

Senator BROWN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks to Vice
Quarles for joining us. Good to see you again.
The Fed’s responsibility and Vice Chairman Quarles’ job is, as we
know, to ensure that the economy works for average Americans—
that if you work hard, you can get ahead; that Wall Street does not
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families worked their whole lives to earn; and that banks cannot
cheat workers out of their hard-earned savings; and that executives
are held accountable when they break the law.
We know the Fed failed in its mission 10 years ago. The Fed had
all the power it needed to prevent the crash. Its leaders in Washington were too complacent and too cozy with Wall Street to use
their authority to rein in the largest banks and to protect American
taxpayers.
That is why immediately after the crash, we put in place rules
to strengthen taxpayer protections from big bank risk and to protect consumers from predatory practices.
The rules worked. Our system got safer, and the rules have not
stopped banks from becoming more profitable than ever, as we see.
The Fed released a report on Friday showing that two important
measures of banks’ profitability—return on equity and average return on assets—hit a 10-year high in the second quarter of 2018.
They have reported a 30-percent growth in loan volume since 2013,
while experiencing a 10-year low in the share of loans that are not
performing.
But now, with legislation enacted earlier this year and the actions of this Administration, we are witnessing—piece by piece by
piece—the dismantling of these protections for American workers
and an undermining of the dignity of work.
Since the last time Mr. Quarles testified before this Committee,
we have two new developments that underscore this point.
First, the Fed’s proposal to implement the bank giveaway bill, S.
2155, goes far beyond what the authors of that legislation claimed
the bill would do. The Fed’s proposed rule loosens protections for
banks with more than $250 billion in assets—not small community
banks, the way the bill was sold. We are talking about the Nation’s
biggest financial institutions. Combined, these firms hold $1.5 trillion in assets.
The Fed’s proposal also promises more goodies for the big banks,
with rollbacks for large foreign banks expected in the next few
months. This is despite the fact that the Fed’s own progress report
said that foreign banks continue to violate anti– money-laundering
laws and skirt Dodd–Frank requirements. No need today to go
down that list of foreign banks. We all know who they are. We
have talked about them in this Committee. Senator Cortez Masto
has brought it up. I have brought it up. A number have brought
it up. Yet we are saying to these foreign banks we sort of ignore
the illegal things they do and continue to deregulate them.
Vice Chair Quarles gave a speech last week announcing the Fed’s
plans for the very largest domestic banks—a speech, frankly, that
could have easily been written by one of those banks’ lobbyists.
Mr. Quarles wants to weaken capital requirements for the
megabanks, eliminating any leverage capital standards in stress
tests. We got a preview of what this would look like in June when
the Fed gave passing grades to three banks that had clearly failed
their stress tests. Now Mr. Quarles wants to make this year’s giveaway permanent.
The speech outlined a series of other changes to the Fed’s stress
tests that would render them essentially meaningless. Mr. Quarles
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that guide the tests, wants to eliminate portions of the tests, and
wants to share with the banks the Fed’s internal models against
which they are graded—you know, giving students the answers
ahead of time.
These changes, taken alongside the weakening of the Volcker
Rule, other big bank leverage standards, and an abandonment of
nonbank financial oversight, these changes amount to gutting the
postcrisis protections we put in place that have worked marvelously for about a decade to protect American taxpayers future
bailouts. Again, repeat, the banks are doing very, very, very well
with these rules and regulations in terms of profitability and return, all of those things. So why do we think weakening those rules
makes sense?
It is not just I who says this. Stanley Fischer, the former Vice
Chair of the Fed, called these combined rollbacks ‘‘mind boggling’’
and ‘‘very dangerous.’’
When regulators have not finished implementing Dodd–Frank,
when the economy has not even gone through a full economic cycle,
now is not the time to begin dismantling our postcrisis protections.
It is the same story: Wall Street recovers, working families in
Cleveland and Baltimore and Birmingham and Las Vegas do not.
When Washington policymakers suffer from collective amnesia, as
this Committee does, working families and savers and taxpayers
too often end up paying the price.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman CRAPO. Thank you, Senator Brown.
Again, Vice Chairman Quarles, we appreciate you being with us.
You may now make your statement.
STATEMENT OF RANDAL K. QUARLES, VICE CHAIRMAN FOR
SUPERVISION, BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Mr. QUARLES. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman Crapo, Ranking
Member Brown, Members of the Committee. I am grateful for the
opportunity to testify on the Federal Reserve’s regulation and supervision of the financial system.
My prepared remarks address two main topics: our efforts to improve regulatory transparency and our progress in making the
postcrisis regulatory framework simpler and more efficient. I am
mindful that this semiannual testimony, like my position as Vice
Chairman for Supervision, is grounded in Congress’ efforts to
strengthen and improve the Nation’s regulatory framework following the financial crisis, and this testimony reflects a critical element of those efforts: the desire and the need for greater transparency.
Transparency is part of the foundation of public accountability,
and it is a cornerstone of due process. It is also key to a well-functioning regulatory system and an essential aspect of safety and
soundness as well as financial stability. Transparency provides
firms clarity on the letter and spirit of their obligations. It provides
supervisors with exposure to a diversity of perspectives. And it provides markets with insight into the condition of regulated firms,
which fosters market discipline. Transparency increases public con-

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fidence in the role of the financial system to support credit, investment, and economic growth.
The Federal Reserve has taken a number of steps since my last
testimony to further increase transparency and to provide more information about our supervisory activities to both regulated institutions and the public. We recently improved our supervisory ratings
system for the large financial institutions, better aligning ratings
with the supervisory feedback that those firms receive. With our
fellow banking agencies, we clarified that supervisory guidance is
a tool to enhance the transparency of supervisory expectations and
should never be the basis of an enforcement action. And we expect
shortly to make final a set of measures to increase visibility into
the Board’s supervisory stress testing program, including more
granular descriptions of our models, more information about the
design of our scenarios, and more detail about the outcomes we
project.
The report that accompanies my testimony today and that Ranking Member Brown referred to is another tool to keep Congress and
the public informed about our work, the banking system, and the
role of both in supporting the broader economy. As the report
shows and as my written testimony discusses, the banking sector
remains in strong condition, in line with strong U.S. economic performance, with lending growth, fewer nonperforming loans, and
strong overall profitability.
We are, however, very much aware of the dangers of complacency, and our report lists several priority areas of risk we will continue to monitor closely, including cyber and IT risks at supervised
firms of all sizes.
Improving regulatory efficiency is another core element of our
current efforts. Tailoring regulation and supervision to risk has
been a programmatic goal of the Federal Reserve for more than two
decades. The motivations are clear: supervisory resources are not
limitless; supervision is not costless, either to the public or to supervised institutions. Activities and firms that pose the greatest
risk should receive the most scrutiny, and where the risk is lower,
the regulatory burden should be lower as well.
This principle guided Congress and the agencies in designing the
postcrisis regulatory framework, and it has guided our implementation of the Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer
Protection Act. On this front, as my written testimony details, we
have made substantial progress.
Our most significant step came 2 weeks ago when the Board
issued two proposals to better align prudential standards with the
risk profile of regulated institutions. These proposals would significantly reduce regulatory compliance requirements for firms in the
lowest risk category, including most institutions with between $100
billion and $250 billion in assets. Firms with $250 billion or more
in assets or firms between $100 billion and $250 billion that meet
a risk threshold will face reduced liquidity requirements. The proposals would largely maintain existing requirements for the largest
and most complex firms.
These new categories draw on our experience administering enhanced prudential requirements and other postcrisis measures, and
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riskier activities and a larger systemic footprint correspond to higher supervisory and regulatory requirements.
I have detailed several other efforts to improve regulatory efficiency in my written testimony, including simplifying and tailoring
requirements under the Volcker Rule.
Our work to improve regulatory efficiency is not done, and we expect to make additional progress in the months ahead on a number
of issues. In particular, we are working with our counterparts at
the OCC and FDIC on a community bank leverage ratio proposal.
I look forward to making progress on that and other efforts and to
participating in the Committee’s oversight of our work.
Thank you, and I look forward to answering your questions.
Chairman CRAPO. Again, thank you, Mr. Quarles.
My first question is really just one on timing for what is coming
next. I do appreciate the work the staff has gone through, truly.
I know the amount of work it has taken for you to move as expeditiously as you have. I am concerned, however, that it is difficult to
get a full picture of what the supervisory and regulatory landscape
will look like until other proposals on foreign banks, resolution
planning and capital planning, and stress testing are out. And I encourage you to keep the heat on to move quickly and would appreciate any updates you might have on timing.
Mr. QUARLES. Certainly, Mr. Chairman. So as I indicated, our
implementing proposal which we are working on jointly with the
OCC and the FDIC on the community bank leverage ratio proposal
we expect very soon. And, again, I hope that the speed with which
we put forward the main implementing proposal indicates that
very soon really will be very soon.
Shortly following after that, I think we will have proposals for
modernizing or bringing up to date the resolution framework and
foreign banking organizations, tailoring for foreign banking organizations. I view the tailoring for foreign banking organizations as a
somewhat separate question from implementation of S. 2155. We
have been considering, and obviously we need to consider, and will
come up with a proposal for that. But the domestic operations of
foreign banking organizations I do not think are one-for-one correspondent with domestic firms of the same size because those intermediate holding companies, they interact with branches that are
subject to a different regulatory regime here. They are parts of
larger organizations.
So I think there is tailoring that can be done. We need to ensure
that we have a level playing field, that firms that are alike are
treated alike. That is very important. But I do think it is a separate implementation question than 2155 implementation.
Chairman CRAPO. All right. Thank you very much.
Are you familiar with the letter or have you seen the letter that
the Republican Members of this Committee recently sent to the
FDIC on Operation Choke Point?
Mr. QUARLES. I have seen that letter, yes.
Chairman CRAPO. And are you familiar with Operation Choke
Point, what it is?
Mr. QUARLES. I am familiar with what I have read about it, yes.
Chairman CRAPO. OK. As I indicated in my opening statement,
I am very concerned with the lack of accountability in the super-

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visory process. What we are finding is that many of the regulators
who are verbally giving instructions to those regulated that are not
actually contained in their authority or the law, and that, frankly,
financial institutions, particularly a lot of our smaller financial institutions, feel an incredible pressure from things that are not coming even from regulations or guidances, but just from verbal communications.
This raises the question to me of whether those who are conducting the supervision throughout our agencies, our financial regulatory agencies, are engaging in regulatory direction and activity
that is not authorized by law or regulation.
My question to you is: What are you doing to make sure that
staff at the Federal Reserve is accountable to you? And is there
anything Congress can do to make sure that you have the tools
necessary to make staff at the agency accountable to you?
Mr. QUARLES. So I appreciate that concern, and I would share
that concern. Obviously, if there were instances where examiners
were communicating and requiring banks to take action that was
not required by regulation and that was not transparent to those
above them in the hierarchy, you know, obviously that would be extremely concerning.
We have a pretty vigorous training program at the Fed. I personally have undertaken as well to spend time in the various reserve
banks in dealing with the supervisors on the ground, conferences
of all the supervisory personnel, leadership conferences. We are
working hard—none of that is terribly visible. All that is within the
system. But we are working hard to ensure that our expectations
for supervisory practice as well as our regulatory process is very
clear to those who are on the ground.
Chairman CRAPO. Well, thank you. I appreciate that and I—well,
I appreciate your attention to that. As the letter that some of the
Members of this Committee recently sent to the FDIC, we want to
assure that all of our regulatory agencies in the financial system
follow their own regulations and the law of the United States rather than, frankly, social managing ideas that they have with regard
to which businesses in America should be allowed to do business.
It is an extremely serious concern, and I appreciate your attention
to this.
Senator Brown.
Senator BROWN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Following your speech, one bank analyst told clients that your
proposed changes are ‘‘a positive for the biggest banks by providing
capital and compliance relief. It reinforces our deregulatory theme
for the banking sector. It shows how deregulation can proceed, even
with Democrats retaking the House of Representatives.’’
Two questions. Do you think this analysis of the Fed’s actions is
accurate? And, second, can you guarantee this Committee that
when the Fed is done, megabank capital standards will not decrease relative to where they are today?
Mr. QUARLES. As I have indicated each time I talk about increasing transparency and improving the efficiency of that system, including our stress testing proposals, our objective is not to have
any—certainly no material effect on the resiliency of the system
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of these largest firms. I think that there are things that we can do
that improve the incentives, that reduce burden, that are more appropriate in a democracy about the transparency that is required
about regulatory expectations without undermining the safety and
soundness of the system and without, again, in any way reducing
the loss-absorbing capacity of the system.
Senator BROWN. But does that mean no diminishing of the capital standards?
Mr. QUARLES. Capital standards are a very important element of
that, but I think we also look broadly. So it is not just capital
standards. It is all the cushions that are built into the capital
structure.
Senator BROWN. It includes capital standards?
Mr. QUARLES. Capital standards are included in my understanding of loss absorbency that we do not intend to reduce.
Senator BROWN. So was that analysis of your speech fair and accurate?
Mr. QUARLES. I think it did not—I mean, to the extent that they
believe that there would be material capital reductions for the largest firms, I do not think they were—I think they ignored the clear
statement that I made, that our intention is not to——
Senator BROWN. This is a group of people that want those standards diminished, and there is, I mean, almost an arrogance to it:
‘‘Well, we know the regulators will help us do that even though
those people in the House of Representatives will not.’’
Mr. QUARLES. So I believe that it is—I know from what it is that
we are proposing that it is possible to have, again, a material improvement in the efficiency and reduction in the cost of our regulatory system without undermining what is at the core of it, which
is improved resiliency and strong loss absorbency for these firms.
Senator BROWN. You outlined a lot of bold changes in your
speech. Are you speaking for the whole Fed Board in speeches like
that?
Mr. QUARLES. In some cases the Fed Board has made decisions
resolving this. We have come out with proposals. In other cases—
and I have tried to be clear about this when that was the case—
I have said what it is that I would place before the Board in short
order.
Senator BROWN. Thank you. Thanks for your honesty. This is
short of an admonition, but we have noticed already, even though
Chair Yellen—and every Chair is different. I get that. Chair Yellen
wanted unanimity when the Board made decisions, and when one
of the Board members, the only non– Trump Board member, voted
the other way, they went ahead. I hope that—I said this is short
of an admonition, but I hope that you keep that in mind, that the
best way to do this is consensus. And if it means convincing a wayward or two Board member, one or two Board members to come
around, be patient and try to do that, or look elsewhere.
Mr. QUARLES. So we do look for consensus, and certainly there
is a process on the Board that I think each Board member would
say has taken every Board member’s thoughts into account and is
open, and adjustments have been made even where at the end of
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Frank Act would be illegitimate. It was not passed unanimously.
But we do at the Board have a very robust process to ensure that
every Board member’s voice is heard.
Senator BROWN. I appreciate that, but a regulatory body is very
different from a politically elected—I mean, you, I assume—I think
I can assume your political party, but it does not matter. You are
on the Fed, and regardless of Ms. Brainard or Mr. Quarles or anybody else on that Board, political party should not really matter.
One more question. You said the Fed intended to give
megabanks a cheat sheet for the stress test in the coming years,
handing over details about the Fed’s models, how the Fed predicts
hypothetical loan performance, even letting banks comment on the
Fed’s scenarios that predict what economic shocks may occur over
the next year.
Given the lead-up to the 2008 crisis, why are you so confident
that banks will not optimize their assets to gain the models? Isn’t
that exactly what banks did to game credit rating agency models
for mortgage-backed securities?
Mr. QUARLES. So in our transparency proposal, we have tried to
strike a balance between more transparency, again, which I think
is appropriate for a number of reasons—again, not just due process,
but also to improve the quality of our models. The more that people
understand them, not just the industry but academics, Congress,
the public, the more input that we can receive on how to improve
them.
But as I have said a number of times, I do think that there is
a concern about the so-called mono model problem, and that if we
were completely transparent, that whatever idiosyncracies there
are in our model would become the locuses of risk throughout the
entire system, and we could end up making the system more fragile rather than less. And so we are not being completely transparent about our models even in these increased transparency proposals that we have made for that reason.
Senator BROWN. Well, and I will close, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the word ‘‘transparency’’ used at least six times in that answer, and you and I when we had breakfast talked about that, and
I appreciate that view. But this is more like in some ways giving
banks the teacher’s edition of the textbook with the answers listed
out in the back when you call giving them that transparency. We
all want transparency in your deliberations, and I think the Fed
has made progress under—really under Bernanke and Yellen and
now. But I just caution you with the word ‘‘transparency’’ when it
is giving information to the people that you are stress testing.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman CRAPO. Senator Corker.
Senator CORKER. Thank you. We welcome you here, and while I
have enjoyed working with all of those who have held your position, it is good to have someone who is actually confirmed and in
this role in the appropriate manner.
I know there are going to be comments based on my staff input
earlier today relative to some of the tailoring issues and some concerns and people alluding to bank profits. But when we have tried
to do safety and soundness, put in place safety and soundness regulations for institutions—and I think many of us here strongly sup-

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port higher capital levels to make sure that they are safe and
sound. But we really do not look at trying to manage bank profits
when we do that, do we?
Mr. QUARLES. No.
Senator CORKER. Talk to us a little bit about what you think
about when you go through those processes.
Mr. QUARLES. So I think that we have two principal concerns as
regulators. We have a concern for the safety and soundness of individual institutions, and we have a concern for the safety and
soundness of the system as a whole and for the efficiency of the
system as a whole because all of us as citizens benefit from the efficiency of the financial sector. That is what provides the support for
economic growth, provides credit for small businesses and businesses generally.
So really irrespective of bank profitability, our concern is that
that system should be operating as efficiently as possible and that
our regulation of that system, while achieving the objective of safety and soundness, is doing so in the most efficient way practicable,
because when we do that, we support economic growth that benefits us all.
Senator CORKER. I notice the FDIC appropriately is moving down
the path of making sure they have a rulemaking in place relative
to private flood insurance, and I think many of us here would like
to see steps taken to ensure that institutions are accepting private
flood insurance. What is the status of that right now at the Fed?
Mr. QUARLES. So we share the view that private flood insurance
should be acceptable, and we are working to ensure that that is understood throughout our supervisory system, so as a supervisory
matter that private flood insurance will be acceptable.
Senator CORKER. So we look forward to you moving ahead with
that, and hopefully that will happen very soon.
The GSEs have been something of debate here since 2008, unsuccessfully. I know that the new Congress likely will take up legislation. My sense is the Administration potentially will try to lead on
that issue by putting in place some things they can do on their own
accord and then coming back and talking with Congress about
things that are necessary to fully implement reforms as it relates
to Fannie and Freddie. Currently they are in conservatorship, as
you know.
I am just curious. Some people on this Committee may disagree
with the whole creation of FSOC. Some people I think would have
thought maybe the Fed’s responsibility was that. But we do have
FSOC, and we do have some firms that are designated as systemically important.
I am just interested in why the Fed and why FSOC has not chosen to say that Fannie and Freddie themselves, with such a huge
concentration and such importance systemically to the banking system itself, have not even during conservatorship chosen to designate them as systemically important.
Mr. QUARLES. Well, ultimately that is a question for the FSOC
as a whole as opposed to just the Federal Reserve.
Senator CORKER. Would you all push for that, though? You have
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Mr. QUARLES. I think that the right—myself, I think that the
right answer for the GSEs is to have a comprehensive solution, and
FSOC designation in the context of that, I think it needs to be
thought of as what is a comprehensive solution for these institutions. And so I would not want to do anything piecemeal until it
was clearer what the whole solution is going to be. I know that the
Treasury and the FHFA are both working hard on that, and I
think as we see how that evolves——
Senator CORKER. So you look at designating someone with $3
trillion in assets as part of a reform solution, not something that
you deem to be important as it relates to systemic risk? That is an
odd response, just for what it is worth.
Mr. QUARLES. Well, again, I think that everything that involves——
Senator CORKER. Just for what it is worth, you know, I support
you and I appreciate your being here. It feels like the Fed is taking
a political look at this and not wanting themselves to be entangled
in versus pushing for the fact that these institutions, if they ever
survive conservatorship, certainly would need to have capital and
all of those kinds of things. And it feels like you all are kind of
dodging a political issue to keep yourselves from being maybe
wounded by taking a step that is appropriate. Is that kind of where
the Fed is today?
Mr. QUARLES. I certainly would not characterize it that way. I
think it is that we are in early days of what ultimately is a very
complex problem and a difficult solution, and I think we should not
approach that solution piecemeal, but should look at what is a comprehensive answer.
Senator CORKER. So yes or no, are they systemically important?
Mr. QUARLES. Well, I think it is unarguable that those institutions have systemic consequence. The question is: What is the right
response to that?
Senator CORKER. So they are systemically important. Thank you.
Chairman CRAPO. Senator Jones.
Senator JONES. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you, Mr.
Quarles, for being here.
I would like to ask you a little bit about something that I am
hearing more and more about in Alabama, and that is the current
expected credit loss accounting standard, CECL, that has come in.
As someone who tries to run away anytime people start talking
numbers and accounting, I really appreciate what FASB has been
doing, so I am not making any judgment here. But I am concerned
in what I hear from our banks a little bit, the concern about unintentional consequences that may impact the ability of banks to
make long-term loans, whether small business loans or residential
loans. And I think and my recollection is that in recent comments
at Brookings, you stated that you believe that there was some
agreement that CECL was going to be procyclical, but that these
issues could be addressed as you phased in those rules.
Can you just expand on those comments a little bit and what you
are looking at to try to make sure that we do not have those unintended consequences and making sure particularly smaller banks
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Mr. QUARLES. Certainly. So I agree with you that there is a lot
that we still do not know about how CECL will really operate in
practice and what the effect will be on banks of any size, but particularly smaller banks. And that is why we had proposed that we
will have a 3-year phase-in period, at least a 3-year phase-in period, so that we can understand before phasing the CECL results
into our capital calculations, exactly what those effects are really
in operation.
We have gotten a lot of different estimates ex ante as to what
the consequence will be of CECL. Will there be an immediate increase in reserves on day one? Is the real issue with CECL or the
real consequence of CECL that there will be procyclicality in the
event of stress? And if there is procyclicality in the event of stress,
does that affect banks that are covered by our stress tests? And
how does CECL work there? And it really is too early to say and
I do not think we have enough data to know exactly what those
consequences are going to be, the day one consequences versus the
ongoing consequences and the stress consequences.
So we are going to be looking at all of that on the basis of the
real operation of CECL when it is in effect by delaying our implementation of including it in our capital——
Senator JONES. All right. And I assume you will be taking the
comments.
Mr. QUARLES. Absolutely.
Senator JONES. I mean, that phase-in is going to give you the opportunity to tweak, to go back and get comments from the banks
and how it is going to be——
Mr. QUARLES. We will be looking for input from all sources on
that.
Senator JONES. All right. Perfect. Thank you for that.
And so the other thing is the Community Reinvestment Act. I
think that is going to be one of the most important items that
banking regulators take up this year. I have spoken to the OCC
about this. You know, if we get it right, it is going to be really important to modernize the CRA. But if we get it wrong and go in
the wrong direction, I am concerned still—and I want to make sure
that this is being addressed—that we are not having different regulators addressing the CRA in different ways.
So can you give me an update about the Fed’s role working with
the OCC about trying to modernize the Community Reinvestment
Act?
Mr. QUARLES. Certainly. So we have worked with the OCC. The
OCC has put out an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, and
we had extensive discussions, all the banking agencies had extensive discussions together before the OCC went out with that ANPR.
We will all be looking at the information that comes in as a consequence of that process. We are having a very athletic outreach
process at the Federal Reserve on questions about the CRA. I think
we have got 20 different seminars and events that are set up
throughout the system, throughout our various reserve banks, looking for input on that. And I expect that, moving forward, our expectation is that we will have a joint NPR, Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, at the end of this outreach process that will reflect all the
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Senator JONES. Great. Thank you.
Finally, just a couple of comments. Number one, I know that the
Fed is part of a working group dealing with anti– money-laundering issues that I know this Committee is likely to take up this
year. I have been hearing that law enforcement may not be as included on that. I know you have got some. But as a former U.S.
Attorney, I would just encourage that working group to bring in
the FBI or other Treasury criminal officials, because there is nothing like boots on the ground to really do that, and I would just encourage you to include some boots-on-the-ground law enforcement
as part of that working group.
And the final thing I just want to say is I want to tell you that
I appreciate very much you and your fellow Fed Board Governors
for maintaining your independence during a time of recent criticism. I think the independence of the Federal Reserve is truly a
core bedrock of our economy and our democracy here on both monetary and regulatory policy. It is critical that you maintain that
independence, so thank you for that. And I want to tell you that
for as many of us here that we can, we will do what we can to preserve that independence for you. So thank you.
Mr. QUARLES. Thank you, Senator.
Chairman CRAPO. Senator Rounds.
Senator ROUNDS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Vice Chair Quarles, first of all, thanks for being here. Before I
get into the questions that I have got for you, I would like to make
one real quick comment. I would like to echo the remarks made
yesterday by my colleague from the House Financial Services Committee, Congressman Ted Budd, regarding the insurance regulation. I agree with Congressman Budd that the Fed and other American regulators should stand up for State-based insurance regulation and fight overreach from the international regulators like the
IAIS, and hopefully you folks will stand strong on that.
Let me also just jump into where my questions would begin. As
we conclude the 115th Congress, Americans have a lot of things to
be thankful for. The postcrisis economic expansion has continued
for a near record 97 months. Tax reform and the Trump administration’s deregulatory efforts have pushed GDP growth to 4 percent. Unemployment remains at a low of 3.7 percent. These are all
positive developments. Yet I remain very concerned about a number of troubling economic signals from back home in South Dakota
with our strong reliance on an ag economy—not just South Dakota,
but North Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, the Upper Midwest.
More specifically, our country’s ongoing trade disputes are causing significant economic problems for my State’s ag economy. As an
example, the retaliatory tariffs from China on American soybeans
have caused soybean sales to China to plummet by 94 percent compared to last year’s harvest.
Now, while the Federal Government’s financial assistance has
helped to offset some of these losses, the subsidy for each bushel
of soybeans in some cases covers less than half of the actual loss
that farmers are facing, and it is the producers that are really taking the brunt. They are on the tip of the spear in this trade dispute.

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The impact, I cannot overemphasize how critical this trade impact is to the economic well-being of farmers in the Upper Midwest.
In South Dakota, the farm economy is down for 5 years in a row.
We are down 50 percent in net farm income, and this is not helping
at this point. And while we see some relief coming, there is going
to be a time—just as an example, soybeans down by 94 percent
sales to China, some people say, ‘‘Big deal.’’ China buys 60 percent—of all those that are exported, 60 percent of it goes to China.
It is close to 30 percent of the entire soybean market. And so this
is a real impact to farmers in the Upper Midwest.
Some of these folks, after 5 years of low commodity prices, will
be coming in to ask for operating loans. The banks in the Upper
Midwest, those who have survived year in and year out, have over
the past understood at the local level that every year is not going
to be a profitable year for an ag operator. And most of those smaller banks that do that expect that some years they are going to
have to look at something and say, ‘‘You may not have performed
well last year or commodity prices are down, but we understand
long term this is going to be a profitable program for our bank, and
if you do not survive, we do not survive either.’’
I am hopeful and what I am asking for is some reassurance from
the Federal Reserve that the Fed and the FDIC, the regulators and
the folks who are going to come in and actually audit the banks
will have an understanding that this short-term trouble we are in
right now is not going to cost these banks to be identifying these
ag operators as nonperforming loans if they come back in looking
for assistance to get by this tough time period in which they are
on that tip of the spear in this trade dispute.
Could you comment on that, please?
Mr. QUARLES. Certainly. I think one of the strengths of our supervisory system is that we have people on the ground with experience both with individual institutions and different categories of institutions and a history of understanding how different markets
work, and all of that should be brought to bear as they make their
individual supervisory decisions.
Senator ROUNDS. I am going to go one step farther because I
think this is really important. In the previous Administration,
there were times in which at the upper echelons there was an attempt to get more money out into the economy, and yet at the
lower echelons, where the actual audits were being done, there was
a disconnect in that it was very difficult to get the money into the
ag economy because in some cases specific sections of the ag economy were identified as nonperforming sectors, and even loans that
had been repaid on time were still being identified as nonperforming assets.
I just want to hear once again a reassurance that there is some
sort of a message out there that says that the ag economy is going
through a tough time; we understand that there can be exceptions
made, and that we are not going to be punishing the banks for trying to get these folks through a tough time. And that has got to
come from the top down so that the folks on the front line who are
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these producers survive and actually continue to help make those
banks a profit in the future.
Mr. QUARLES. So I can absolutely commit to you that I take the
supervision part of this job as important as the regulatory part of
this job. For what it is worth, as I think you know, I come from
an agricultural background myself and understand the issues that
you are talking about, very much so, and will be engaging with the
supervisors to ensure that they take reasonable decisions.
Senator ROUNDS. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator BROWN [presiding]. Senator Warren.
Senator WARREN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is good to see you
again, Governor Quarles.
I want to follow up on a letter I sent yesterday to the Fed and
to several other Federal regulators. In it I raised concerns about
the rapid growth of leveraged corporate lending, that is, lending to
companies that already have a lot of debt.
There was a record $1.1 trillion in leveraged loans in the U.S.
last year, nearly double what it was just a few years ago. In the
last few weeks, former Fed officials have raised serious concerns
about the growth of leveraged lending. Former Fed Governor Dan
Tarullo called for more oversight and transparency because of the
risks these loans pose to the economy, and former Fed Chair Yellen
said she is ‘‘worried about the systemic risks associated with these
loans.’’
So do you agree with former Fed Chair Yellen and Governor
Tarullo that this is a concern?
Mr. QUARLES. Well, I agree that the framework that they are
talking about it in, the systemic risk is what it is that we ought
to be looking at and ensuring that we understand how systemic
risk is evolving as opposed to simply the volume of leveraged lending. I think that is the right way to look at it.
Senator WARREN. OK. I understand you think it is the right way
to look at it. Are you concerned about it, the amount? That is the
question.
Mr. QUARLES. Yeah, again, I think the question is what are the
structures that these loans are being held in. The amount itself is
not what is critical. What is critical is, you know, are they being
held in vulnerable structures? Do we understand how the system
is evolving? And that is something that we are looking at very
closely.
Senator WARREN. All I can say, even your fellow Trump appointee, OCC head Joe Otting, said recently that ‘‘there is probably
a bit more leverage in this market than we as a country should be
comfortable with.’’
So I tell you what, let me move on. In 2013, under the Obama
administration, the Fed, the OCC, and the FDIC were worried
about leveraged lending, so they issued joint guidance, and that
guidance provided risk management and underwriting expectations
for the leveraged commercial loans, and then they enforced it. The
next year a dozen banks received notices that they were not following the guidance, and the Fed issued a supervisory finding that
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But things have shifted in the Trump administration. Earlier
this year, Comptroller Otting said he did not care if the banks
under his supervision violated the guidelines if it did not affect
their overall safety and soundness. Is that your position as well?
Mr. QUARLES. Well, our position with respect to leveraged lending supervision is that we are actually quite athletically looking at
that. That is something——
Senator WARREN. OK, so that is not your position. You are enforcing the guidelines.
Mr. QUARLES. Well, guidance is guidance. Guidance is intended
to provide transparency, but it is not something that can be enforceable. It is not a rule. So what we are enforcing are——
Senator WARREN. I am sorry. The Fed directed Credit Suisse to
abide by the guidelines back in 2014, so you cannot say there is
nothing you can do. The Fed has done it.
Mr. QUARLES. To enforce guidance is inappropriate. That is not
something that can be done.
Senator WARREN. Well, it directed them to follow the guidance.
I mean, I do not want to split hairs with you. I am just asking a
question. Are you still holding them to the guidance or not?
Mr. QUARLES. We are holding them to standards of safety and
soundness, and I think that is an important distinction, Senator.
We are not in any way abrogating or not looking at leveraged lending. That is an important part of our supervision.
Senator WARREN. Are you monitoring compliance with the 2013
guidelines?
Mr. QUARLES. We are monitoring compliance with safety and
soundness.
Senator WARREN. Is that a no on the 2013 guideline?
Mr. QUARLES. The guidance is intended to provide transparency
as to what it is that we will look at.
Senator WARREN. Are you monitoring compliance with that?
Mr. QUARLES. We should not monitor compliance with guidance.
We should monitor compliance——
Senator WARREN. I take that as a no, then.
Mr. QUARLES. ——with safety and soundness.
Senator WARREN. I will take that as a no. There have been reports of banks offering loans that plainly violate the 2013 guidelines, so it is clear to me that at least the market does not think
you are monitoring these. What concerns me, Governor Quarles, is
this market looks a lot like the subprime mortgage market looked
pre-2008. The loans are badly underwritten with minimal protections. Like subprime mortgages, these loans are being packaged up
and sold to investors as collateralized loan obligations, or CLOs,
which spread the risk throughout the system and take the lender
off the hook for originating a bad loan. And these loans have adjustable rates, which means that if interest rates continue to go up,
companies will owe more money just at the moment when the overall economy may be slowing down.
Now, the Fed dropped the ball before the 2008 crisis by ignoring
the risks in the subprime mortgage market. What are you doing
differently this time in coordination with other Federal regulators
so that you are limiting the risk that leveraged loans cause serious
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Mr. QUARLES. So we are—as I said, it is an important theme of
our supervision and monitoring—this cycle is monitoring the underwriting standard for leveraged loans. We will be looking at that
carefully in this supervisory cycle. We are also monitoring carefully
how the CLO ecosystem is evolving to make sure that we understand where risks are evolving there.
Senator WARREN. OK. I am not sure that I see much distinction
between what you are doing now and the Fed was doing pre-2008,
and I think that is deeply worrisome. I have sent a letter, asked
more questions in that letter. I hope I will be able to get a response
soon to that. I am very concerned that the Fed dropped the ball before and may be dropping it one more time on this.
Thank you.
Chairman CRAPO [presiding]. Senator Kennedy.
Senator KENNEDY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, Mr.
Vice Chairman.
Can you tell me what exposure, if any, the American banking
system has to any instability in Italy, including but not limited to
its banking system?
Mr. QUARLES. So the exposure of our banking system to Italian
banks is—the direct exposure is relatively modest. We do not think
that there is a particular issue there. Obviously it is a single financial sector. There are parts of the European financial sector that
are exposed to Italy, and we continue to monitor whether developments there could have feedback effects into the United States. We
are not—we do not view cause for particular concern there at the
moment.
Senator KENNEDY. OK. What is a short form call report?
Mr. QUARLES. The intention of the short form call report is to be
a form that has less burden on the institutions that fill it out, requires less cost and time, but still provides us all the information
that we need to ensure that institutions that are less risky are safe
and sound appropriate to the riskiness.
Senator KENNEDY. And I believe that Congress and, for lack of
a better expression, our Dodd–Frank reform bill directed you to
come up with a short form call report for banks $5 billion or less
that would be less onerous. Is that right?
Mr. QUARLES. That is correct.
Senator KENNEDY. Why haven’t you done that?
Mr. QUARLES. I know that we are in the process of implementing
that. I think that——
Senator KENNEDY. You promulgated a rule. It is going to save
the average bank a grand total of 1.18 hours a quarter. The stuff
that you are cutting out is the stuff that most small banks always
put zero on. You are not doing anything. I mean, I would like you
to get in another lick and let us try to be serious about it.
Refresh my memory what banks $5 billion or less did wrong in
2008.
Mr. QUARLES. Well, overconcentration in commercial real estate,
but we do not believe that they are——
Senator KENNEDY. But did they cause—they did not cause the
meltdown.
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Senator KENNEDY. Right, but we punished the hell out of them
in Dodd–Frank. OK?
Mr. QUARLES. Yeah, I do believe that it was—that the regulatory
burden on the smaller banks was too much.
Senator KENNEDY. I wish you would take another look at your
promulgated rule. I think it is all hat and no cattle.
Mr. QUARLES. I appreciate that, and I will go back and look at
it.
Senator KENNEDY. OK. Tell me, Mr. Vice Chairman—and I really
do appreciate the job that you are doing. Tell me what a community bank leverage ratio is.
Mr. QUARLES. So that is a proposal that we are working on with
the other regulators to develop standards that a community bank
that has a certain leverage ratio and other standards would be subject to simplified, much simplified regulation.
Senator KENNEDY. OK. Would it be fair to say that it would
mean that a community bank which has a lot of capital, a lot of
cushion, particularly with respect to or in comparison with the
larger systemically important banks, would get less supervision?
Mr. QUARLES. Well, I——
Senator KENNEDY. Well, not less supervision.
Mr. QUARLES. Exactly.
Senator KENNEDY. Less paperwork.
Mr. QUARLES. Less paperwork, absolutely. Absolutely.
Senator KENNEDY. OK. Have you promulgated a rule?
Mr. QUARLES. We have not promulgated a rule yet, but that is
one that I expect very soon, and very soon in real time, not Fed
time.
Senator KENNEDY. OK. Well, let us suppose that a community
bank had 6 percent capital. Would you consider that to be well capitalized?
Mr. QUARLES. Depending on the type of capital, that could be
well capitalized.
Senator KENNEDY. OK, with reasonable liquidity.
Mr. QUARLES. Yeah, I think the community bank leverage ratio
instruction is somewhere between 8 and 10. We are to look between 8 and 10 percent.
Senator KENNEDY. Right, 8, 10, 12. I am just saying there are
a lot of small institutions out there that are very well capitalized,
and if they belly up, the world is not going to spin off its axis. It
may for its shareholders, but that is the way capitalism works.
Mr. QUARLES. Sure.
Senator KENNEDY. So we really ought to be trying to do everything we can to get a little Government off their back so you can
concentrate your efforts on banks whose demise could threaten our
banking system. Would that be fair?
Mr. QUARLES. I agree.
Senator KENNEDY. OK. I hope you will do that in developing the
ratio, and I hope you will take a good second look at that rule that
I mentioned. Thank you, Mr. Vice Chairman.
Mr. QUARLES. Thank you, Senator.
Senator KENNEDY. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
Mr. QUARLES. Thank you.
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Senator MENENDEZ. Thank you.
Last week it was reported that more than 500 families, including
22 in New Jersey, wrongly lost their homes to foreclosure because
of an error in Wells Fargo underwriting software which caused the
bank to incorrectly deny mortgage modifications to homeowners.
That is unacceptable, and there is no amount of remediation or
apology that makes up for losing your home.
Now, I know, Mr. Vice Chair, that you have recused yourself
from matters specific to Wells Fargo, but I do think this raises a
more serious overarching question about the oversight of the Nation’s biggest banks. I am seriously concerned that we are re-creating a world where homeowners are at the mercy of the banks and
there will not be a cop on the beat when things go bad.
So what assurances can you give us that the Federal Reserve is
specifically monitoring for these types of issues and in a larger
sense ensuring that homeowners are not subject to the same
abuses they were during the crisis?
Mr. QUARLES. So we have a large and active Division of Consumer and Community Affairs where we have regulatory authority
that remains after the Dodd–Frank Act—and our authority was restricted to some extent as you know, but where we have regulatory
authority, we have a very active enforcement program in ensuring
that we are both examining and, where we see deficiencies, enforcing against consumer problems.
Senator MENENDEZ. And so in this case, that would have been
lost in that process? Or would something like this be lost in that
process?
Mr. QUARLES. So I would not think so. I mean, that is the sort
of thing that we would look at. I would have to—we can get back
to you with more specifics. The Fed can get back to you with more
specifics about Wells Fargo since I am recused, but as a general
systemic matter, we certainly—we do not underemphasize——
Senator MENENDEZ. My point is if you, in fact—I appreciate your
answer. If you, in fact, are saying that you are looking at systemic
issues that might affect homeowners in a way that this particular
instance did, then it did not work as it relates to Wells Fargo. So
we have to understand what is it that did not work. I would love
to hear from the Fed the specific about Wells Fargo. But I would
like to also hear what did not work at the end of the day that did
not catch this.
The Federal Reserve recently proposed loosening liquidity rules
for banks as large as $700 billion in assets. During the crisis these
same banks received almost $60 billion in taxpayer bailouts. Liquidity standards are critical to ensuring banks have enough cash
on hand to meet the demand should there be a stress in the market. The Fed’s proposal, however, would slash those requirements
and would result in a $77 billion decrease in liquid assets for banks
with assets of $100 to $700 billion.
Fed Governor Brainard voted against the proposal saying she
saw no changes in the financial environment that would require
the Federal Reserve to substantially weaken such rules. Moreover,
she said, this proposal comes at the ‘‘expense of an economically
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How can you justify these changes which put taxpayers at risk
of future bailouts?
Mr. QUARLES. So I do not think that they have put taxpayers at
risk of future bailouts. The effect of our proposed liquidity changes
would be a reduction in the overall amount of liquidity in the system of between 2 and 2.5 percent. We have since the crisis added
$3 trillion of liquidity. That is multiples of liquidity than existed
before the crisis. And these changes to tailor the burden of complying with regulation, according to the riskiness of firms, you
know, I think are quite appropriate. The firms in that category are
generally funded with much less wholesale funding. They are much
less subject to liquidity risk. And yet the overall consequence of
this change is only 2 to 2.5 percent available liquidity in the system.
Senator MENENDEZ. Let me talk to that 2.5 percent that you cite.
My reading of that decline is that it is based on a larger consideration of all liquid assets in the system for banks with more than
$100 billion in assets. What we are talking about is the decline in
liquid assets for banks between $100 and $700 billion. So surely
that ratio is much higher if you consider the liquid assets of the
institutions who are receiving relief.
It is estimated that it is a decline of 30 percent for the banks
over $250 billion in assets and 15 percent for those with assets between $100 and $250 billion. So it is not 2.5 percent.
Mr. QUARLES. Well, I think the appropriate denominator is the
system. If you take a subset, you will always get a higher percentage if you take just a subset. But if you look at the system as a
whole, we are not affecting in any material way the liquidity resources of the system.
We also are under a statutory instruction to tailor our regulation
for all firms, and I think this is a way to do that to implement the
statute without having an important systemic——
Senator MENENDEZ. I do not think that statutory instruction is
one that drives you to ultimately create the potential for greater
risk as part of that instruction.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman CRAPO. Thank you.
Governor Quarles, that concludes the questioning. We appreciate
again you taking the time to be here with us today.
For Senators wishing to submit questions for the record, those
questions are due on Monday, November 26th, and, Vice Chairman
Quarles, we ask that you respond promptly to those questions.
And, once again, thank you for being here.
Mr. QUARLES. Thank you.
Chairman CRAPO. This Committee is adjourned.
[Whereupon, at 11:04 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
[Prepared statements and responses to written questions supplied for the record follow:]

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PREPARED STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN MIKE CRAPO
Today we will receive testimony from Federal Reserve Vice Chairman for Supervision Randy Quarles regarding the efforts, activities, objectives, and plans of the
Federal Reserve Board with respect to the conduct, supervision and regulation of
financial firms supervised by the Federal Reserve Board.
We last heard from Vice Chairman Quarles in October on the Fed’s progress implementing S. 2155, the Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief and Consumer Protection Act.
At that time, the Fed had taken actions to implement some provisions of S. 2155,
including those related to the 18-month exam cycle, high-volatility commercial real
estate and the Small Bank Holding Company Policy Statement.
Since then, the Fed has taken new steps to implement key provisions of the bill.
Recently, the Fed issued proposals revising the application of enhanced prudential
standards across four categories of firms to reflect each category’s varying risks.
These proposals are a step in the right direction, and I appreciate the Fed’s work
to issue them quickly.
I understand the amount of staff work that went into getting the proposals out,
and thank you and your staff for your work on these proposals.
The proposals would assign banking organizations to one of four categories based
on their size and other risk-based indicators, including: cross-jurisdictional activity;
nonbank assets; short-term wholesale funding; off-balance-sheet exposures; and status as a U.S. global systemically important bank, or U.S. G–SIB.
The category to which an institution is assigned would determine the enhanced
prudential standards and capital and liquidity requirements to which it would be
subject.
I look forward to hearing how the application of certain enhanced prudential
standards would address the risks associated with cross-jurisdictional activity,
nonbank assets, short-term wholesale funding and off-balance-sheet exposures.
The proposal incorporates a number of very positive changes to the current framework for regional banks, including: relief from advanced approaches capital requirements; a reduced liquidity coverage ratio; and changes to the frequency of supervisory and company-run stress testing and, some cases, the disclosure of the results.
Despite this positive step, the agencies have left a number of items unaddressed,
including: the treatment of foreign banking organizations; additional details on
stress testing, including the Fed’s Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review, or
CCAR; and resolution planning.
I encourage the regulators to revisit all regulation and guidance thresholds that
were consistent with the outdated Section 165 threshold to an amount that reflects
actual systemic risk.
Regulators have two options: use a systemic risk factors-based approach, or raise
all thresholds to at least $250 billion in total assets to be consistent with S. 2155.
There are also other noteworthy provisions of the bill on which the Fed, working
with other regulators, has yet to act, including implementation of the Community
Bank Leverage Ratio and the provision that exempted cash deposits placed at central banks by custody banks from the supplemental leverage ratio.
The Fed should work promptly to issue proposals to address these critical outstanding issues.
I was encouraged by Vice Chairman Quarles’ speech last week, particularly the
emphasis on providing more transparency around stress testing and capital planning processes.
Finally, last week, all Republican Members of the Banking Committee sent the
FDIC a letter on Operation Choke Point.
Operation Choke Point is an initiative in which Federal agencies devised and relied upon a list of politically disfavored merchant categories with the intent of ‘‘choking-off’’ these merchants’ access to payment systems and banking services.
Staff at the banking agencies use verbal recommendations to encourage banks to
stop doing business with disfavored, but legal businesses.
I plan to look into how policy is communicated from the banking agencies to regulated institutions more broadly.
I appreciate Vice Chairman Quarles’ joining us today to discuss developments in
the Fed’s supervision and regulation and look forward to hearing more about the
Fed’s pending work to implement S. 2155.

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PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR SHERROD BROWN
Thank you, Mr. Chairman and thank you Vice Chairman Quarles for appearing
before the Committee today.
The Federal Reserve’s responsibility, and Vice Chairman Quarles’ job, is to ensure
that the economy works for average Americans—that if you work hard, you can get
ahead.
That Wall Street doesn’t again crash the financial system and squander the pensions that families worked their whole lives to earn.
That banks can’t cheat workers out of their hard-earned savings.
And that executives are held accountable when they break the law.
We know the Fed failed in its mission 10 years ago. The Fed had all the power
it needed to prevent the crash, and its leaders in Washington were too complacent,
and too cozy with Wall Street, to use their authority to rein in the largest banks
and protect American taxpayers.
That’s why immediately after the crash, we put in place rules to strengthen taxpayer protections from big bank risk, and to protect consumers from predatory practices.
The rules worked—our system got safer, and the rules haven’t stopped banks from
becoming more profitable than ever. The Fed released a report on Friday showing
that two important measures of banks’ profitability—return on equity and average
return on assets—hit a 10-year high in the second quarter of 2018.
Banks have also reported a 30 percent growth in loan volume since 2013, while
experiencing a 10-year low in the share of loans that aren’t performing.
But now, with legislation enacted earlier this year, and the actions of this Administration, we are witnessing—piece by piece—the dismantling of these protections
for American workers.
Since the last time Mr. Quarles testified before this Committee, we have two new
developments that underscore this point.
First, the Federal Reserve’s proposal to implement the bank giveaway bill, S.
2155, goes far beyond what the authors of that legislation claimed the bill would
do. The Fed’s proposed rule loosens protections for banks with more than $250 billion in assets—not small community banks—we’re talking about the Nation’s biggest financial institutions. Combined, these firms hold $1.5 trillion in assets.
The Fed’s proposal also promises more goodies for the big banks, with rollbacks
for large foreign banks expected in the next few months. This is despite the fact
that the Fed’s own progress report said that foreign banks continue to violate anti–
money laundering laws and skirt Dodd–Frank requirements.
Second, Vice Chairman Quarles gave a speech last week outlining the Fed’s plans
for the very largest domestic banks—a speech that could have easily been written
by one of their lobbyists.
Mr. Quarles wants to weaken capital requirements for the megabanks, eliminating any leverage capital standards in stress tests. We got a preview of what this
would look like in June, when the Fed gave passing grades to three banks that had
clearly failed their stress tests. Now, Mr. Quarles wants to make this year’s giveaway permanent.
The speech outlined a series of other changes to the Fed’s stress tests that would
render them essentially meaningless. Mr. Quarles makes no secret of the fact that
he wants to ease up on the assumptions that guide the tests, wants to eliminate
portions of the tests, and wants to share with the banks the Fed’s internal models
against which they are graded—that’s like giving students the answers ahead of
time.
These changes, taken alongside the weakening of the Volcker Rule, other big bank
leverage standards, and an abandonment of nonbank financial oversight, amount to
gutting the postcrisis protections we put in place to protect American taxpayers future bailouts.
It’s not just me saying this. Stanley Fischer—the former Vice Chairman of the
Fed—called these combined rollbacks quote, ‘‘mind boggling’’ and quote ‘‘very dangerous.’’
When regulators haven’t finished implementing Dodd–Frank, and the economy
hasn’t even gone through a full economic cycle, now is not the time to begin dismantling our postcrisis protections. It’s always the same story—Wall Street recovers,
working families don’t. And when Washington policymakers suffer from collective
amnesia, working families, savers, and taxpayers end up paying the price.

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PREPARED STATEMENT OF RANDAL K. QUARLES
VICE CHAIRMAN FOR SUPERVISION, BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE
SYSTEM
NOVEMBER 15, 2018
Chairman Crapo, Ranking Member Brown, other Members of the Committee,
thank you for the opportunity to testify on the Federal Reserve’s regulation and supervision of the financial system. My testimony today covers two main topics: our
efforts to improve regulatory transparency, including the report accompanying my
submission to the Committee, and our progress in making the postcrisis regulatory
framework simpler and more efficient.
The Role of Transparency in Regulation and Supervision
I am mindful that this semiannual testimony—like my position as Vice Chairman
for Supervision—is grounded in Congress’s efforts to strengthen and improve the
Nation’s regulatory framework following the financial crisis. This testimony reflects
a critical element of those efforts: the desire, and the need, for greater transparency.
Transparency is part of the foundation of public accountability and a cornerstone
of due process. It is also key to a well-functioning regulatory system and an essential aspect of safety and soundness, as well as financial stability. Transparency provides financial firms clarity on the letter and spirit of their obligations; it provides
supervisors with the benefit of exposure to a diversity of perspectives; and it provides markets with insight into the condition of regulated firms, fostering market
discipline. Transparency increases public confidence in the role of the financial system to support credit, investment, and economic growth.
The Federal Reserve has taken a number of steps since my last testimony to further increase transparency, and to provide more information about our supervisory
activities to both regulated institutions and the public.
For example, the Board recently improved its supervisory ratings system for large
financial institutions. 1 Ratings are an essential vehicle for supervisory feedback—
a clear, concise way to convey whether a firm meets expectations, with tangible, predictable consequences for those that fall short. Our ratings system for large institutions had remained unchanged since 2004, even as our supervision of those institutions evolved significantly after the crisis. The new rating system will better align
ratings for these firms with the supervisory feedback they receive, and will focus
firms on the capital, liquidity, and governance issues most likely to affect safety and
soundness.
The banking agencies also recently clarified that supervisory guidance is a tool
to enhance the transparency of supervisory expectations, and should never be the
basis of an enforcement action. 2 Guidance—a valuable tool for examiners to help
evaluate firms and explain supervisory findings—should always be based on concerns for safety and soundness or compliance at a particular firm. However, guidance is not legally enforceable, and Federal Reserve examiners will not treat it that
way.
Finally, we expect shortly to make final a set of measures to increase visibility
into the Board’s supervisory stress testing program. The enhanced disclosures will
include more granular descriptions of our models; more information about the design of our scenarios; and more detail about the outcomes we project, including a
range of loss rates for loans held by firms subject to the Comprehensive Capital
Analysis and Review. The disclosures will provide a more complete picture of the
stress testing process, and facilitate thoughtful comments from academics and other
members of the public, while mitigating the risk of convergence on a single model.
As a result, we believe the disclosures will improve our work, making the tests more
reliable, visible, and credible. We will continue our efforts toward greater transparency in stress testing over the next several years, including by disclosing descriptions of additional material models and modeled loss rate disclosures for loan and
nonloan portfolios.
1 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, ‘‘Federal Reserve Board Finalizes New
Supervisory Rating System for Large Financial Institutions’’, news release, November 2, 2018,
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/bcreg20181102a.htm.
2 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, National Credit Union Administration, and Office
of the Comptroller of the Currency, ‘‘Agencies Issue Statement Reaffirming the Role of Supervisory Guidance’’, news release, September 11, 2018, https://www.federalreserve.gov/
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Semiannual Review of the Safety and Soundness of the U.S. Banking System
The report that accompanies my testimony today is another tool to keep Congress,
and the public, informed about our work, the banking system, and the role of both
in supporting the broader economy. 3 The report focuses on the Federal Reserve’s
prudential supervisory activities. 4 As the report shows, the banking sector remains
in strong condition, in line with strong U.S. economic performance, with lending
growth, fewer nonperforming loans, and strong overall profitability.
Large institutions are well capitalized and liquid, and their capital planning and
liquidity-risk-management processes are improving. Ninety-nine percent of regional
and community banks are currently well capitalized, and supervisory recommendations made to smaller firms during the financial crisis have largely been closed. We
are, however, very much aware of the dangers of complacency, and our report lists
several priority areas of risk we will continue to monitor closely in the coming year,
including cyber and information technology risks at supervised firms of all sizes.
Improvements in Regulatory Efficiency
Improving regulatory efficiency is another core element of our current regulatory
efforts. Tailoring regulation and supervision to risk has been a programmatic goal
of Federal Reserve policy for more than two decades. The motivations are clear: supervisory resources are not limitless, and supervision is not costless, either to the
public or to supervised institutions. Activities and firms that pose the greatest risk
should receive the most scrutiny, and where the risk is lower, the regulatory burden
should be lower as well.
This principle guided Congress and the Federal banking agencies in designing the
postcrisis regulatory framework, which imposed greater restrictions on larger, more
systemically important firms and less intrusive requirements on smaller ones. It has
also guided our implementation of the Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and
Consumer Protection Act (EGRRCPA, or the Act). 5 On this front, we have made
substantial progress:
• expanding eligibility of community banking firms for the Small Bank Holding
Company Policy Statement, and for longer, 18-month examination cycles; 6
• giving bank holding companies below $100 billion in assets immediate relief
from supervisory assessments, stress testing requirements, and some additional
Dodd–Frank Act prudential measures; 7 and
• implementing changes to liquidity regulation of municipal securities and capital
regulation of high-volatility commercial real estate exposures. 8
The Board, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), and Office of the
Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) have also continued the work to significantly reduce the reporting burden on community banking organizations, altering reporting
frequencies, items, and thresholds, while preserving the data necessary for effective
oversight. 9 The agencies recently issued a proposal to reduce further reporting re3 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, ‘‘Supervision and Regulation Report’’,
November 9, 2018, www.federalreserve.gov/publications/supervision-and-regulation-report.htm.
4 The Federal Reserve is also responsible for timely and effective supervision of consumer protection and community reinvestment laws and regulations. More information about the Federal
Reserve’s consumer-focused supervisory program can be found in the Federal Reserve’s Annual
Report to Congress. See section 5, ‘‘Consumer and Community Affairs’’, at https://
www.federalreserve.gov/publications/annual-report.htm. The Federal Reserve also publishes the
Consumer Compliance Supervision Bulletin, which shares information about examiners’ supervisory observations and other noteworthy developments related to consumer protections. See
https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/consumer-compliance-supervision-bulletin.htm.
5 EGRRCPA, Pub. L. No. 115-174, 132 Stat. 1296 (2018).
6 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, ‘‘Federal Reserve Board Issues Interim
Final Rule Expanding the Applicability of the Board’s Small Bank Holding Company Policy
Statement’’, news release, August 28, 2018, https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/
pressreleases/bcreg20180828a.htm.
7 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, ‘‘Statement Regarding the Impact of the
Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act (EGRRCPA)’’, July 6, 2018,
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/files/bcreg20180706b1.pdf.
8 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation,
and Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, ‘‘Agencies Propose Rule Regarding the Treatment
of High Volatility Commercial Real Estate’’, news release, September 18, 2018, https://
www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/bcreg20180918a.htm.
9 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation,
and Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, ‘‘Agencies Issue Proposal To Streamline Regulatory Reporting for Qualifying Small Institutions’’, news release, November 7, 2018, https://
www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/bcreg20181107a.htm.

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quirements for small depository institutions in the first and third quarters of the
year. Under the proposal, around 37 percent of data items would not be required
in those quarters.
Our most significant step to implement the Act came 2 weeks ago, when the
Board issued two proposals to better align prudential standards with the risk profile
of regulated institutions. 10 These proposals implement changes that Congress enacted this spring in the EGRRCPA. One of the proposals addresses the Board’s enhanced prudential standards for large banking firms, and the other is an interagency proposal amending the regulatory capital and liquidity regulations that
apply to large banking organizations. Both proposals separate large banking firms
into four categories, using size as a relevant but not sufficient factor for increased
regulatory requirements. Among the other factors that will now enter into this assessment are nonbank assets, short-term wholesale funding, and off-balance-sheet
exposure. The changes would significantly reduce regulatory compliance requirements for firms in the lowest risk category, including most institutions with between $100 billion and $250 billion in assets. Firms with $250 billion or more in
assets, or firms with assets between $100 billion and $250 billion that meet a risk
threshold, will face reduced liquidity requirements. The proposals would largely
maintain existing requirements for the largest and most complex firms.
These new categories represent a step forward in regulatory efficiency. They draw
on our experience administering enhanced prudential requirements and other
postcrisis measures. They recognize that other indicators of risk beyond size are appropriate to consider when determining if more stringent standards should apply to
certain firms. They move toward a more risk-sensitive, nuanced framework, where
riskier activities and a larger systemic footprint correspond to higher supervisory
and regulatory requirements.
Apart from the requirements of the Act, we also recently proposed a new approach
to calculating credit risk, known as the standardized approach to counterparty credit risk, or SA–CCR. The new approach would better account for the risks associated
with derivatives exposures, including market practices that reduce risk, such as netting and initial margin. 11 We issued a proposal simplifying and tailoring requirements under the Volcker rule, to ensure that the most stringent requirements apply
to the firms with the most trading activity, and that compliance is as simple and
objective as possible. We also issued a rule limiting the exposure of large firms to
a single counterparty, addressing a key source of contagion during the financial crisis. We have received thoughtful input from the public that will help inform our implementation of all of these measures.
Finally, we have continued to engage with supervisors and central banks overseas. The ultimate goal of having an efficient and transparent regulatory system is
to help the American economy—to enable banking organizations to offer safe, stable
financial services to households and businesses around the country. But American
businesses compete in a global marketplace, and as the financial crisis showed,
when regulatory standards fall in other countries, Americans can pay the price. Engaging overseas, through forums like the Financial Stability Board and the Basel
Committee on Banking Supervision, helps level the playing field—and it helps ensure that all countries, not just the United States, do their part to maintain and
protect the global economy.
Our work to improve regulatory efficiency is not done, and we expect to make additional progress in the months ahead on a number of issues. In particular, we are
working with our counterparts at the OCC and FDIC on a community bank leverage
ratio proposal. We expect that this proposal would meaningfully reduce the compliance burden for community banking organizations, while preserving overall levels
of capital at small banks and our ability to take prompt action when problems arise.
I look forward to continuing our efforts to make our regulatory framework simpler, more transparent, and more efficient—and I look forward to participating in
the Committee’s oversight of those efforts. As Chairman Powell said at his swearing-in: ‘‘As a public institution, we must be transparent about our actions so that
10 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, ‘‘Federal Reserve Board Invites Public
Comment on Framework That Would More Closely Match Regulations for Large Banking Organizations With Their Risk Profiles’’, news release, October 31, 2018, https://
www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/bcreg20181031a.htm.
11 Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation,
and Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, ‘‘Agencies Propose Rule To Update Calculation
of Derivative Contract Exposure Amounts Under Regulatory Capital Rules’’, news release, October 30, 2018, https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/bcreg20181030a.htm.

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the public, through its elected representatives, can hold us accountable.’’ 12 We will
continue to do so to the best of our ability.
Thank you, and I look forward to answering your questions.

12 Jerome H. Powell, ‘‘Remarks at the Ceremonial Swearing-in’’ (speech at the Federal Reserve Board, Washington, DC, February 13, 2018), https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/
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RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR BROWN
FROM RANDAL K. QUARLES

Q.1. The Fed’s regulation report released on November 9, 2018,
said that foreign banking organizations (FBOs) still face challenges
in complying with Dodd–Frank Act enhanced prudential standards
(EPS). And yet your testimony noted that FBOs can expect a rule
to ‘‘tailor’’ EPS in the coming year.
Why would the Fed alter taxpayer protections with regard to
FBOs when the Fed’s own report says that banks aren’t fully complying with existing requirements?
A.1. The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board)
has taken, and will continue to take, a risk-based approach to supervision, focusing its resources on those institutions (both domestic and foreign) that pose the greatest risk to safety and soundness
and financial stability. On October 31, 2018, the Board approved
two notices of proposed rulemaking that would establish a revised
framework for applying enhanced prudential standards to large
U.S. banking organizations based on their risk profiles. The proposals would establish four categories of standards that reflect the
different risks of firms in each group and would largely keep existing requirements in place for the riskiest and largest firms. The
proposals build on the Board’s existing tailoring of its rules and experience implementing those rules, and account for statutory
changes enacted by the Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and
Consumer Protection Act.
The changes proposed on October 31, 2018, do not apply to foreign banking organizations. As a part of the Board’s current effort
to develop a tailoring proposal for foreign banks, we are considering the appropriate way to assign foreign U.S. operations to the
category of prudential standards described in the tailoring proposal
for domestic firms, in light of the structures through which these
firms conduct business in the Unites States.
I expect that this proposal and the two proposed rulemakings
from October 31, 2018, by applying enhanced prudential standards
based on risk profile, will enable the Board to continue to apply its
risk-based approach to supervision in a more effective and efficient
manner.
Q.2. In April, the Fed proposed weakening the enhanced supplemental leverage ratio (eSLR) by $121 billion for the insured depository institutions of the eight largest banks and proposed weakening
the version of the leverage ratio used in stress tests. In a recent
speech, you went further, saying that the leverage ratio should be
eliminated altogether in stress tests. More than half of global systemically important banks (G–SIBs) have had their stock buybacks
and dividends limited in recent years because the leverage ratio
was the binding constraint on capital distributions.
How do you justify letting large banks send capital to shareholders and executives when it could otherwise be protecting taxpayers from bailouts?
A.2. Postcrisis regulatory reforms, including the supplementary leverage ratio, were designed to improve the safety and soundness
and reduce the probability of failure of banking organizations, as
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a failure were to occur. For large banking organizations in particular, the objective of the Federal Reserve Board (Board) has been
to establish capital and other prudential requirements at a level
that not only promotes resiliency at the banking organization and
protects financial stability, but also maximizes long term, throughthe-cycle credit availability and economic growth. In reviewing the
postcrisis reforms both individually and collectively, the Board has
sought ways to streamline and tailor the regulatory framework,
while ensuring that such firms have adequate capital to continue
to act as financial intermediaries during times of stress.
Consistent with these efforts, the Board proposed to recalibrate
the enhanced supplementary leverage ratio (eSLR) to align leverage capital requirements with risk-based capital requirements for
the G–SIBs. In particular, leverage capital requirements should
generally act as a backstop to the risk-based requirements. If a leverage ratio is calibrated at a level that makes it generally a binding constraint, it can create incentives for firms to reduce participation in or increase costs for low-risk, low-return businesses. Over
the past few years, however, concerns were raised that in certain
cases the eSLR has become a binding constraint rather than a
backstop to the risk-based standards. With respect to the April
2018 proposal, a decrease in capital requirements at a subsidiary
depository institution does not necessarily result in its holding company being able to distribute those funds to shareholders. This happens because the capital rule and other regulatory restrictions at
the holding company level, such as the Board’s annual stress tests,
limit the amount of capital that a holding company can distribute
to shareholders. The analysis that accompanied the April 2018 proposal showed that the banking organizations that would be subject
to the proposal—global systemically important banking organizations (U.S. G–SIBs)—would be able to release only up to $400 million of tier 1 capital (or approximately 0.04 percent of the amount
of tier 1 capital held by these firms) to their shareholders.
With respect to the stress testing program, explicitly assigning a
leverage buffer requirement to a firm on the basis of risk-sensitive
poststress estimates, as the stress testing framework is intended to
do, may be inconsistent with the goals of the leverage ratio.
Q.3. In a recent comment letter, the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis noted that the ‘‘proposed tailoring of the eSLR and alterations to the existing stress testing that the Board is considering
will weaken taxpayer protection from bailouts. Recent evidence—
some of which economists from the Board of Governors itself has
produced—finds that equity funding requirements for the largest
banks are too low, not too high. Even measures of the credit cycle
and financial stability risk indicate that it is likely prudent for
banks to continue to build capital.’’
Please provide your perspective on this statement.
A.3. Maintaining the safety and soundness of the largest U.S.
banks is critical to maintaining the stability of the U.S. financial
system and the broader economy. Accordingly, postcrisis, the Board
along with the other U.S. banking agencies substantially strengthened regulatory capital requirements for large banks. The Board’s
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hood and severity of future financial crises by reducing both the
probability of failure of a large banking organization and the consequences of such a failure, were it to occur. Capital rules and
other prudential requirements for large banking organizations
should be set at a level that protects financial stability and maximizes long-term, through-the-cycle, credit availability and economic
growth. In general, I believe overall loss-absorbing capacity for our
largest banking organizations is at about the right level.
More recently, the Board has proposed various regulatory refinements to pursue its long-standing goal of applying prudential
standards based on a bank’s risk profile and size. This tailoring of
regulations enables the Board to supervise banking organizations
in an effective and efficient manner while maintaining their safety
and soundness.
Q.4. In a recent speech, you noted that the Fed is going to repropose a rule on its stress testing regime in light of comment letters
it received. Then your speech goes on to list a whole host of
changes the Fed may make—each of which is more favorable to the
banks.
If the Fed reproposing the Stress Capital Buffer (SCB) proposal
as you’ve outlined, would G–SIBs be required to hold more or less
capital relative to the original SCB proposal?
Can you point us to an example of a proposed change, as noted
in your speech, which would require G–SIBs to hold additional capital?
A.4. The Board’s notice of public rulemaking entitled Amendments
to the Regulatory Capital, Capital Plan, and Stress Test Rules 1
issued in April 2018 would integrate the Board’s regulatory capital
rules, the Board’s Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review
(CCAR), and stress test rules. Under the proposal, the Board’s supervisory stress test would be used to establish the size of a firm’s
stress capital buffer requirement. As noted in the proposal, the
stress capital buffer requirement would generally maintain or in
some cases increase common equity tier 1 capital requirements for
global systemically important banking organizations (G–SIBs).
That said, the impact of the proposal on firms would vary through
the economic and credit cycle based on the risk profiles and
planned capital distributions of individual firms, as well as the specific severely adverse stress scenario used in the supervisory stress
test. The same potential impact on individual firms also would
exist under the changes that I have outlined previously in greater
detail. 2
Board staff are currently reviewing all comments on the proposal
and will carefully consider whether any changes to the proposal are
appropriate.
Q.5. Does the Fed plan to incorporate the G–SIB surcharge into
the Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review (CCAR) for 2019?
A.5. In 2019, as in past CCAR cycles, the Board intends to evaluate
each firm’s ability to maintain capital ratios above the poststress
minimum requirements. The global systemically important bank
1 https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-04-25/pdf/2018-08006.pdf
2 See, ‘‘A New Chapter in Stress Testing’’, at https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/
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holding company surcharge is not a minimum requirement, and
thus, would not be considered as part of the CCAR’s quantitative
assessment.
We are continuing to evaluate ways to simplify the Board’s capital framework by more closely integrating the regulatory capital
rules and stress testing. The Board’s proposal, issued in April 2018
as noted in the response to 4(a), would introduce the concept of
stress buffer requirements into the regulatory capital rules. This
proposal would integrate the results of the Board’s supervisory
stress test into the regulatory capital rules, which already incorporates the G–SIB surcharge.
The goal of the proposal is to provide a more integrated and cohesive framework that reduces redundancies and inconsistencies
across the capital rules and stress testing rules. The proposal includes other modifications as well, such as changes to the assumptions used in our stress test.
Q.6. Will you commit to making your meeting schedule transparent
so that the Congress and the public can see who you’re talking to
before the Fed announces any proposed rules changing bank capital, leverage, liquidity, or other standards?
A.6. In my work as a Federal Reserve Board (Board) Governor, as
well as the Vice Chair for Supervision and Regulation, I regularly
meet with a wide range of representatives from the industry, peer
domestic and foreign regulators, academics, public interest groups,
and others. These meetings inform me and, in turn, the Board on
a broad array of critical issues. Consistent with the practice of
other Board members, I have always provided my calendar to the
public upon request and will be happy to provide a copy to your
staff.
Q.7. You have proposed eliminating the qualitative objection currently included in CCAR. Previously, banks such as Deutsche
Bank, Santander, Citigroup, HSBC, RBS, Ally, and BB&T have received objections to their capital distribution plans based on qualitative factors.
What is your justification for eliminating the qualitative objection under CCAR?
A.7. Capital planning is a core aspect of financial and risk management that helps ensure the financial strength and resilience of a
firm. Strong, forward-looking capital planning processes ensure
that large firms have sufficient capital to absorb losses and continue to lend to creditworthy businesses and consumers, including
during times of stress.
In 2017, the Federal Reserve eliminated the qualitative objection
as part of the Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review (CCAR)
for large and noncomplex firms, which are generally firms with less
than $250 billion in assets, in part because of improvements in risk
management at these firms. I believe that the removal of the qualitative objection for these firms has not diminished the effectiveness
of supervision.
Similarly, larger firms have also generally improved their risk
management in the years since the inception of CCAR. Removing
the public objection tool and continuing to evaluate firms’ stress
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align the outcome of the CCAR qualitative assessment with other
supervisory programs. Firms would remain subject to the same supervisory expectations, and examiners would continue to conduct
rigorous horizontal and firm specific assessments of a firm’s capital
positions and capital planning, tailored to the risk profile of the
firm. While much of the examination work would center on a firm’s
capital plan submissions, examination work would continue on a
year-round basis, taking into account the firm’s management of
other financial risks. The evaluation of the firm’s capital position
and capital planning would culminate in a rating of the firm’s capital position and planning. Firms with deficient practices would receive supervisory findings through the examination process, and
would be at risk of a ratings downgrade or enforcement action if
those deficiencies were sufficiently material or not addressed in a
timely manner.
Q.8. When you were asked about the Community Reinvestment Act
at a recent House of Representatives hearing, you said that the law
had become too ‘‘formulaic’’ and that it was therefore less effective.
If that’s the case, would you oppose the aspect of the OCC’s proposal—which would make the CRA even more formulaic by grading
banks’ performance according to one simple ratio?
A.8. I was referring to the fact that, over the years, practices have
developed among both banks and their supervisors that result in
much Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) compliance being satisfied with a single type of activity. The drafters of the CRA contemplated, and the language of the statute itself supports, a much
broader potential for involvement in community development and
a much wider range of qualifying investments than currently tends
to result from CRA compliance. We are reviewing information the
Office of the Comptroller of the Currency has received in response
to its advance notice of proposed rulemaking on the CRA, as well
as information gathered through the Federal Reserve’s listening
sessions at many of the Federal Reserve Banks around the country,
to determine whether there are steps we might take as regulators
to come closer to both the letter and intent of the statute. That review is ongoing, and our evaluation of any particular proposal or
element of a proposal, including any potential measurement standards, will depend on a full analysis of the available information
upon completion of that review.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR TOOMEY
FROM RANDAL K. QUARLES

Q.1. Section 402 of the Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and
Consumer Protection Act instructed bank regulators to issue a rule
exempting custody banks’ cash deposits placed at central banks
from the Supplemental Leverage Ratio calculation.
When do you expect to implement Section 402?
A.1. As you indicate, the recent Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act (EGRRCPA) legislation requires
the Federal banking agencies to amend the supplementary leverage
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are actively working to issue a notice of proposed rulemaking and
expect to issue it for public comment in the near future.
The April 2018 proposal to recalibrate the enhanced supplementary leverage ratio standards assumed that the components of
the supplementary leverage ratio used the capital rule’s existing
definitions of tier 1 capital (the numerator of the ratio) and total
leverage exposure (the denominator); however, the definition of
total leverage exposure will change for certain banking organizations, through the implementation of section 402. As the Federal
Reserve Board (Board) and the Office of the Comptroller of the
Currency noted in the April 2018 proposal, significant changes to
either component of the supplementary leverage ratio would likely
necessitate reconsideration of the proposed recalibration, as the
proposal was not intended to materially change the aggregate
amount of capital in the banking system. Accordingly, staff is evaluating the April 2018 proposal in light of the statutory change, in
addition to comments received on the proposal.
Q.2. Holding almost $5 trillion in U.S. banking and nonbanking assets, foreign banking organizations (FBOs) play an important role
in the U.S. financial system and overall economy. FBOs operating
within the U.S. and U.S. firms operating abroad should compete on
a level playing field. For that reason, I was encouraged to learn
that you intend to review and possibly update regulations applicable to FBOs early in 2019. Previously, you have highlighted Total
Loss-Absorbing Capital (TLAC) requirements for the intermediate
holding companies (IHCs) of FBOs as worthy of review.
Will TLAC requirements be a part of your 2019 efforts?
If so, what are your plans to tailor and streamline internal TLAC
and long-term debt requirements?
A.2. In October 2018, the Board issued notices of proposed rulemaking (NPR) to tailor certain prudential standards for domestic
banks. The Board plans to develop a separate proposal, for public
comment, relating to foreign banking organizations (FBOs) and
their U.S. operations. The October 2018 NPRs did not modify the
Total Loss-Absorbing Capital (TLAC) requirements for U.S. firms;
the specific content of a forthcoming FBO tailoring NPR remains
under consideration.
Q.3. Finally, are you considering adjusting the January 1, 2019,
compliance date currently in effect?
A.3. In the remarks I gave on May 16, 2018, I noted that the Board
should consider whether the internal TLAC calibration for intermediate holding companies (IHCs) could be adjusted to reflect the
practice of other regulators without adversely affecting resolvability
and U.S. financial stability. This matter remains under consideration and the Board continues to monitor relevant developments in
other jurisdictions. The Board’s rule establishing TLAC, long-term
debt, and clean holding company requirements for U.S. IHCs of foreign global systemically important banks became effective as of
January 1, 2019. Any change to the internal TLAC requirements
for IHCs, or any other aspect of the rule, would need to be adopted
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RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR COTTON
FROM RANDAL K. QUARLES

Q.1. FINRA Rule 4210—Two years ago, I sent a letter to the SEC
expressing concern about FINRA Rule 4210, which established
margin requirements on To-Be-Announced (TBA) securities such as
mortgage-back bonds. The key problem here is that rule 4210 applies to broker-dealers but NOT to banks. Thus broker-dealers can
use their banking arm to evade this requirement, creating an uneven playing field. Earlier this year, Federal Reserve staff confirmed this ‘‘inequity’’ in a call with my staff.
Last April, we spoke about this rule in a hearing with this Committee. You promised to review that rule to ensure it did not create
an unequal playing field between small and medium broker-dealers
and large, bank-affiliated broker-dealers. I’m sure we agree that restricting market competition isn’t good for anyone except the privileged few banks that would gain business. The day after that hearing, FINRA delayed rule 4210 until March of 2019.
What steps can the Fed take to ensure that rule 4210 does not
create an unequal playing field between small and medium-sized
broker dealers and bank-affiliated broker dealers? Please list them.
Do you agree that as implemented, rule 4210 creates an unequal
playing field for the aforementioned financial institutions?
A.1. As you noted above in your question, the Financial Industry
Regulatory Authority’s (FINRA) Rule 4210 To-Be-Announced (TBA)
amendments are not scheduled to be implemented until spring
2019 at the earliest. In addition, recent action by FINRA suggests
it is working towards reducing the rule’s burden. For example, in
September 2018, FINRA’s Board approved revisions to its Rule
4210 TBA requirements that would eliminate the 2 percent maintenance margin requirement contained in the rule. FINRA’s Board
also approved revisions that would allow member firms to take a
capital charge in lieu of collecting margin for mark to market
losses, subject to specified limitations and conditions. 1 These
changes would substantially reduce possible inequities between
FINRA firms and bank dealers. FINRA has not yet sought comment on these revisions, and the Federal Reserve is monitoring
FINRA’s efforts. If the final result creates an unequal playing field,
we will work with fellow bank regulatory agencies to address disparities between FINRA firms and bank dealers in this area, taking into account the differences between them.
Q.2. Mortgage Servicing Assets—As you know, many lenders prefer
to keep the relationship with the customer via servicing the mortgage, even if the bank sells the mortgage itself. There has been a
bipartisan view in Congress that the original rule on MSAs, which
came out as part of the Basel process, was misguided and, indeed,
punitive as applied to small and midsize banks. Many of us were
encouraged when the regulators put out a proposal to change the
existing rule. But that proposal came out over a year ago and still
nothing has been done to finalize it. The current situation is driving mortgage servicing out of regulated entities and into unregulated ones, which I assume is not your objective.
1 See

https://www.finra.org/industry/update-finra-board-governors-meeting-092618.

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When can we expect a final rule on mortgage servicing assets to
be issued?
A.2. As part of the 2017 Economic Growth and Regulatory Paperwork Reduction Act report, the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System (Board), the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC), the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC)
(collectively, the agencies), and the National Credit Union Administration highlighted their intent to meaningfully reduce regulatory
burden, especially on community banking organizations, while at
the same time maintaining safety and soundness and the quality
and quantity of regulatory capital in the banking system. Consistent with that objective, the agencies issued a proposal in 2017
to simplify certain aspects of the regulatory capital rules for nonadvanced approaches banking organizations, including a simplified
treatment for mortgage servicing assets (MSAs) (simplifications
proposal).
The agencies are working jointly to implement Economic Growth,
Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act (EGRRCPA), 2
which addresses and supersedes aspects of the simplifications proposal. For example, the agencies recently issued a proposed rule to
conform the regulatory capital treatment of certain acquisition, development, or construction loans to that under EGRRCPA. 3 The
agencies are actively considering the comments received on the
simplifications proposal in the context of the changes made by the
EGRRCPA.
In addition, on November 21, 2017, the agencies finalized a rule
to extend the current transition provisions in the capital rules for
certain capital deductions that would be affected by the simplifications proposal. 4 Thus, while the agencies continue to evaluate comments on the simplifications proposal, for most banking organizations, MSAs not deducted under the capital rules will continue to
be subject to a 100 percent risk weight rather than the fully
phased-in 250 percent risk weight.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR ROUNDS
FROM RANDAL K. QUARLES

Q.1. In South Dakota, many farmers use derivatives to manage the
risk of price disruptions due to any number of factors in the marketplace. Given the challenges that farmers are facing on several
fronts, it’s important that South Dakotans are able to access tools
like derivatives in a way that’s as cost-effective as possible.
When our farmers do choose to access derivatives markets
they’re required to provide margin against their derivative contracts. Banks hold that margin in the event the farmer can’t meet
their obligations, thereby reducing the risk of default for the bank
and for the marketplace.
2 See, e.g., Interagency Statement Regarding the Impact of the Economic Growth, Regulatory
Relief, and Consumer Protection Act (July 6, 2018), available at https://www.fdic.gov/news/
news/press/2018/pr18044a.pdf.
3 83 Fed. Reg. 48,990 (Sept. 28, 2018).
4 82 Fed. Reg. 55,309 (Nov. 21, 2017). The final rule extended the transition provisions for
banking organizations that are not subject to the capital rule’s advanced approaches. Banking
organizations subject to the capital rule’s advanced approaches remain subject to the stricter
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Unfortunately the Fed’s methodology for the leverage ratio
doesn’t recognize this reduced risk. As a result, an additional cost
is imposed on farmers across the country when they hedge against
price fluctuations.
When will the Fed act on this issue and provide relief on client
margin? Farmers are in need of relief wherever they can get it.
I’m proud to be the Senate sponsor of S. 3577, the Financial Stability Oversight Council Improvement Act of 2018. As we continue
to look at ways to make our financial system safer and more resilient, it’s important that FSOC also regulates nonbanks based on
the risk profile of a specific business or industry, not for the sake
of regulation, and not based only on size.
Last year the Treasury Department released a report recommending how FSOC can further improve the SIFI designation process for nonbank institutions. Similar to my interest in tailoring regulations, Treasury suggested that an activities-based approach
would be appropriate. I’m also pleased to hear reports that FSOC
may be taking action on this front by the end of 2018.
Can you elaborate on FSOC’s forthcoming proposals?
If you could, I’d like you to share some of the advantages to the
activities-based approach that FSOC is considering.
How will it help the Fed’s work?
And how will it help the economy more broadly?
A.1. In October 2018, the Federal Reserve Board (Board), along
with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and Office
of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) (collectively, the Agencies), issued a proposal that would revise the capital rule to require
banking organizations to use a more risk-sensitive methodology
known as the standardized approach for counterparty credit risk
(SA–CCR) for reflecting derivative contracts in the supplementary
leverage ratio. The Agencies believe that SA–CCR, which recognizes the shorter default risk horizon applicable to margined derivative contracts, provides a more appropriate measure of derivative
contracts for leverage capital purposes than does the current approach. Analysis conducted by the Agencies indicates that, compared to the current methodology, the implementation of SA–CCR
would increase covered banking organizations’ supplementary leverage ratios.
As noted in the proposal, the Agencies are sensitive to impediments to banking organizations’ willingness and ability to provide
client-clearing services. The Agencies also are mindful of the Dodd–
Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd–
Frank Act) mandate to mitigate systemic risk and promote financial stability by, in part, developing uniform standards for the conduct of systemically important payment, clearing, and settlement
activities of financial institutions. In view of these important,
postcrisis reform objectives, the Agencies are inviting comment on
the consequences of not recognizing collateral provided by a clearing member client banking organization in connection with a
cleared transaction. The Agencies will carefully consider the comments received on the proposal.
With respect to your second question on the Financial Stability
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that include taking an activities-based approach (see, for example,
the minutes of the June 15, 2018, FSOC meeting). 1 Of course, any
revisions to the FSOC’s current guidance on the designation of
nonbank financial institutions will have to be approved by the
FSOC.
In principle, an activities-based approach toward the designation
of individual nonbank financial institutions would shift the focus
toward reviewing potential risks to U.S. financial stability from a
financial system perspective by examining financial activities and
products throughout various industries. This approach offers some
potential advantages, including the consideration of how certain activities undertaken by nonbanks could threaten financial stability
and how best these threats could be addressed. In addition, such
an approach could complement the FSOC’s effort to monitor broader vulnerabilities in the U.S. financial system.
In terms of helping the Federal Reserve’s work, should a firm be
designated and thus subject to supervision by the Federal Reserve,
a clear statement from the FSOC of the particular activities of concern could help focus supervisory efforts to limit systemic risk. Further, the activities-based approach proposed in the November 2017
Treasury Department report 2 could complement the Federal Reserve’s monitoring of financial stability risks. The Board provided
an overview of the framework it uses to monitor financial stability
in the November 2018 Financial Stability Report. 3 This framework
focuses on monitoring vulnerabilities in the financial system, such
as elevated valuation pressures, excessive leverage within the financial sector, excessive borrowing by businesses and households,
and funding risks.
Monitoring of financial vulnerabilities and activities that could
pose a threat to U.S. financial stability could help regulators design
policies to reduce the likelihood of financial market disruptions or
of credit crunches.
Q.2. Thank you for the ongoing dialogue on the ‘‘standardized approach for measuring counterparty credit risk’’ rule in derivatives
markets. I appreciate regulators enacting risk-based rules in any
sector of the economy.
I understand that the Fed’s goal was to follow the Basel Committee’s approach when it was designing the SA–CCR rule. I also understand that the SA–CCR methodology as designed by the Basel
Committee recognized that margin posted by derivative users reduces the risk of default. That being said, based on my review of
the Fed’s SA–CCR rule, I noticed that the Fed omitted the margin
exposure provisions of the Basel SA–CCR rule.
One of the purposes of implementing the Basel Committee’s SA–
CCR rule was to make American companies more competitive with
our European counterparts, all of whom have implemented the
Basel-driven version of SA–CCR.
Why did the Fed choose not to include margin exposure in the
U.S. SA–CCR rule?
1 See
https://www.treasury.gov/initiatives/fsoc/council-meetings/Documents/June152018
lminutes.pdf.
2 See
https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/documents/pm-fsoc-designationsmemo-11-17.pdf.
3 See https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/files/financial-stability-report-201811.pdf.

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Will this lack of recognition on margin perpetuate the disparities
between the U.S. and Europe and put our financial institutions at
a disadvantage?
A.2. The proposal is generally consistent with the Basel Committee’s standards on the recognition of margin in the risk-based and
leverage capital frameworks. In particular, the proposal to require
use of SA–CCR in calculating the supplementary leverage ratio is
generally consistent with the Basel Committee’s standard on leverage capital requirements, which currently limits collateral recognition. The Agencies are sensitive to impediments to firms’ willingness and ability to provide client-clearing services, and recognize
the wide support for the migration of derivative contracts to central
clearing frameworks. In particular, in October 2018, the Basel
Committee issued a consultative document seeking views on
whether to recognize collateral in their leverage capital requirement. 4 Accordingly, the Agencies are inviting comment on the consequences of not recognizing collateral provided by a clearing member client banking organization in connection with a cleared transaction. The Agencies will carefully consider each comment on the
proposal.
Q.3. As you know, Section 402 of S. 2155 exempted the cash deposits of custody banks held at central banks from the supplemental
leverage ratio.
Can you give us an update on when section 402 will be implemented?
And can you shed a bit more light into how this section of the
law will interact with changes to the supplemental leverage ratio
that the Fed announced back in April?
Balancing these two priorities is important given that regulatory
changes announced in April could potentially blunt the impact of
S. 2155.
A.3. As you indicate, the recently enacted Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act (EGRRCPA) requires
the Federal banking agencies to amend the supplementary leverage
ratio as applied to custodial banks. The Federal banking agencies
are actively working to issue a notice of proposed rulemaking and
expect to issue it for public comment in the near future.
The April 2018 proposal to recalibrate the enhanced supplementary leverage ratio standards assumed that the components of
the supplementary leverage ratio used the capital rule’s existing
definitions of tier 1 capital (the numerator of the ratio) and total
leverage exposure (the denominator); however, the definition of
total leverage exposure will change for certain banking organizations through the implementation of section 402. As the Board and
OCC noted in the April 2018 proposal, significant changes to either
component of the supplementary leverage ratio would likely necessitate reconsideration of the proposed recalibration, as the proposal
was not intended to materially change the aggregate amount of
capital in the banking system. Accordingly, staff is evaluating the
April 2018 proposal in light of the statutory change, in addition to
4 See Consultative Document, ‘‘Leverage Ratio Treatment of Client Cleared Derivatives’’,
Basel Committee on Banking Supervision, October 2018, available at https://www.bis.org/bcbs/
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comments received on the proposal. The Board also plans to implement the requirements of section 402 in the near-term.
Q.4. I’ve reviewed remarks you gave at the Brookings Institution
on November 9th and appreciate efforts you’re undertaking to implement S. 2155 by tailoring capital and liquidity for banks based
on risk. As the Senate lead on S. 366, the TAILOR Act, I appreciate any and all steps our banking regulators take to tailor regulations to the risk profile and business model of a given institution
as opposed to regulating based on arbitrary asset thresholds.
During your remarks at Brookings you stated that S. 2155 did
not provide relief for large banks and that after the Fed finalizes
its tailoring proposal it will turn its focus to other parts of our regulatory system.
Can you shed a bit more light into what you meant by that?
What issues will you be considering in your efforts to bring
greater efficiency to our regulatory system?
A.4. The proposals approved by the Board for public comment on
October 31, 2018, are designed to efficiently tailor prudential
standards to the risks of large U.S. banking organizations while ensuring that firms maintain sufficient resources and risk management practices to be resilient under a range of economic conditions. 5 The proposals build on the Board’s existing tailoring of its
rules and experience implementing those rules, and account for
changes made by the EGRRCPA to the enhanced prudential standards requirements under section 165 of the Dodd–Frank Act.
In the proposals, the Board stated its plans to propose at a later
date similar amendments that would tailor capital planning and
resolution planning requirements for large U.S. banking organizations. The Board also stated its plans to issue a separate proposal
relating to foreign banking organizations that would implement
section 401 of the EGRRCPA for these firms, take into account the
structures through which these firms conduct business in the
United States and reflect the principles of national treatment and
equality of competitive opportunity.
In addition, the Board in general aims to reduce unnecessary
costs associated with and streamline regulatory requirements
based on its experience implementing the rules and consistent with
the statutory provisions that motivated the rules.
Q.5. The June 2017 Treasury Report on banks and credit unions
recommended, ‘‘The application of U.S. enhanced prudential standards to foreign banking organizations (FBOs) should be based on
their U.S. risk profile, using the same revised threshold as is used
for the application of the enhanced prudential standards to U.S.
bank holding companies, rather than on global consolidated assets.’’
How will the Federal Reserve tailor its regulations according to
this recommendation and the longstanding principle of national
treatment?
A.5. The Board is in receipt of the June 2017 Department of Treasury report and has carefully reviewed its contents including its recommendations. As noted above, the Board is considering the appro5 See

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/bcreg20181031a.htm.

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priate way to assign the U.S. operations of foreign banking organizations to the categories of prudential standards described in the
Board’s October 31, 2018, proposal to tailor prudential standards
for domestic firms, in light of the special structures through which
these firms conduct business in the United States.
Q.6. Given that foreign regulators may retaliate against American
institutions for overly aggressive actions taken by U.S. regulators,
what steps will the Federal Reserve take to focus its tailoring on
the risk profile of intermediate holding companies and not the
branch networks of international banks, which are subject to regulation by their home countries?
A.6. In developing a proposal for foreign banking organizations, the
Board will consider the special structures through which these
firms conduct business in the United States. The Board’s current
enhanced prudential standards were designed to increase the resiliency of the U.S. operations of foreign banking organizations, including the U.S. branches and agencies of these firms. In developing the proposal, the Board will continue to consider the principles of national treatment and equality of competitive opportunity
along with the extent to which a foreign banking organization is
subject, on a consolidated basis, to home country standards that
are comparable to those applied to financial companies in the
United States.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR TILLIS
FROM RANDAL K. QUARLES

Q.1. After Nasdaq became an exchange in 2006, it is my understanding that the Federal Reserve has not undertaken any effort
to update its rules to provide a pathway to margin eligibility for
companies traded over-the-counter (OTC). Margin eligibility of
OTC-traded stocks can be an important part of the growth of small
and emerging companies, as it helps to improve the market quality
of those securities, impact an investor’s willingness to purchase
those securities, and as a result have a direct impact on capital formation. In addition, U.S. investors in the American depositary receipts (ADR) for Roche ($10bn yearly net income) and other large,
international OTC traded firms are also negatively impacted by the
Federal Reserve’s inaction on this issue.
Will the Federal Reserve take action to revive the margin list for
certain OTC securities? If not, please explain why.
A.1. Responding to your question above and as previously posed regarding the List of Over-the-Counter Margin Stocks (OTC List)
that is no longer published by the Federal Reserve Board (Board),
staff have continued to monitor OTC market developments in the
years since the publication of the OTC List ceased. Any expansion
of the types of securities that are margin eligible would require
careful consideration by the Board of the benefits of such an approach weighed against potential increased burden on banks and
other lenders.
Please know that I appreciate your concerns as noted in your
questions, and we are looking into potential approaches that may
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tional regulatory burdens. By way of background, I am including
a brief summary of the history of the Board’s OTC List.
In 1968, Congress amended section 7 of the Securities Exchange
Act of 1934 (SEA) to allow the Board to regulate the amount of
credit that may be extended on securities not registered on a national securities exchange, or those securities known as ‘‘over-thecounter’’ or ‘‘OTC’’ securities. The following year, the Board adopted
criteria to identify OTC stocks that have ‘‘the degree of national investor interest, the depth and breadth of market, the availability
of information respecting the security and its issuer, and the character and permanence of the issuer’’ to warrant treatment similar
to equity securities registered on a national securities exchange.
The Board’s first periodically published OTC List became effective
on July 8, 1969.
In 1975, Congress further amended the SEA to direct the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to facilitate the development
of a ‘‘national market system’’ (NMS) for securities to accomplish
several goals, including price transparency. The SEC’s criteria for
NMS securities came to cover both exchange-traded stocks (which
were always marginable) and a subset of stocks traded on Nasdaq,
the largest and most technologically advanced over-the-counter
market at that time. The majority of the securities traded on
Nasdaq’s NMS tier were covered by the Board’s OTC margin stock
criteria and appeared on the Board’s OTC List. The Board’s analysis, however, indicated that the liquidity and other characteristics
of NMS securities generally compared favorably with those of exchange-traded securities. Accordingly, the Board amended its margin regulations in 1984 to give immediate margin status to OTC securities that qualified as NMS securities without regard to whether
the stock appeared on the Board’s OTC List. This action established a precedent for relying on NMS status under SEC rules as
a substitute for identifying margin-eligible OTC securities through
the application of Board established criteria.
The Board ceased publication of its OTC List in 1998, and provided margin status to all securities listed on the Nasdaq Stock
Market, after Nasdaq raised the listing standards for non-NMS securities trading on its market, making them comparable to those
traded on national securities exchanges. Indeed, Nasdaq subsequently became a national securities exchange.
Q.2. In previous reports on the state of supervision and regulation,
you have stated, ‘‘the Federal Reserve relies to the fullest extent
possible’’ on State insurance departments in the supervision of Insurance Savings & Loan Holding Companies (ISLHC) and that you
have worked closely with State officials and the National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC) to maximize supervisory
efficiencies and avoid duplication. I continue to hear from my constituents and insurance companies in my State that ‘‘tailoring’’ is
not occurring. It is difficult to point to a single specific action the
Federal Reserve has taken to tailor for these companies, and they
continue to exit the business of banking, with several exits in the
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What specific further actions will the Federal Reserve take to
make sure that ISLHCs are not being driven from the business of
banking by inefficient and overly burdensome regulation?
A.2. In supervising insurance savings and loan holding companies
(ISLHCs), the Federal Reserve has aimed to develop policies that
are insurance-centric and appropriate for the insurance business
and regulatory environment. For instance, the Board’s advance notice of proposed rulemaking on insurance capital requirements set
out two frameworks for capital standards that are each unlike the
Board’s capital rules for bank holding companies. 1 The Federal Reserve recognizes that ISLHCs have multiple functional regulators
and that State insurance regulators are the primary functional supervisors of the insurance companies. In supervising the consolidated insurance organization, the Federal Reserve remains committed to working cooperatively with State insurance regulators to
reduce the potential for duplication and undue burden of supervisory activities. The Federal Reserve also tailors its supervisory
activities and guidance to account for the unique characteristics,
organizational and regulatory structures associated with ISLHCs.
Examples of tailoring for these companies include the Board’s exemption of ISLHCs from Federal Reserve consolidated capital,
stress testing and liquidity rules which are generally applicable to
banking organizations.
Federal Reserve examination teams rely on State insurance regulators to the fullest extent possible for the assessment of insurance
risks and activities. For example, supervisory evaluations and findings from State insurance regulators are incorporated into the Federal Reserve’s consolidated supervision assessments. Federal Reserve examiners defer to State insurance regulators for the evaluation of insurance activities pertaining to insurance underwriting,
reinsurance, reserving, market conduct, and compliance with State
insurance laws.
The Federal Reserve also coordinates with State insurance regulators through information sharing agreements and supervisory colleges. Additionally, Federal Reserve examination staff meet with
each ISLHC’s primary State insurance regulators to share supervisory information (e.g., inspection reports, supervisory plans), coordinate supervisory activities, and identify opportunities to leverage each agency’s work to complement supervisory efforts and
avoid duplication.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR WARREN
FROM RANDAL K. QUARLES

Q.1. You recently made a speech about the Federal Reserve’s
‘‘Stress Capital Buffer’’ proposal, which makes significant changes
to the annual supervisory Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review (CCAR) administered by the Fed. You indicated that the Fed
would make a second proposal in response to some industry comments.
1 Capital Requirements for Supervised Institutions Significantly Engaged in Insurance Activities, 81 Fed. Reg. 38,631 (June 14, 2016), https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/06/
14/2016-14004/capital-reguirements-for-supervised-institutions-significantly-engaged-in-insurance-activities.

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According your remarks, the Fed is considering allowing a firm
to develop a capital distribution plan after its stress tests because
‘‘firms have told us that they would be able to engage in more
thoughtful capital planning if they had knowledge of that year’s
stress test results before finalizing their distribution plans for the
upcoming year.’’
What evidence has the Fed received that firms will actually be
more thoughtful rather than simply plan to distribute the maximum amount permitted by the stress tests, thereby outsourcing
their capital decisions to the Fed?
A.1. Currently, and under the Stress Capital Buffer proposal, a
firm must decide whether to increase or decrease its planned dividends and share repurchases for the upcoming year without knowledge of a key constraint: the results of the stress test. While this
practice is intended to encourage firms to think rigorously about
their capital uses and needs in developing their capital plans, it
also introduces significant uncertainty into a firm’s capital planning process.
Adjusting the operation of the rule such that firms know their
stress capital buffer before they decide on their planned distributions for the coming year would remove this uncertainty. This
change would not change the expectation that firms continue to engage in meaningful capital planning and use their internal capital
planning processes to set their planned capital distributions. The
Federal Reserve would continue to use the supervisory process to
evaluate the strength of each firm’s capital planning process, including identifying its material risks and determining the capital
necessary to withstand those risks during stressful conditions.
Q.2. You indicated in your speech that ‘‘reducing volatility’’ of
stress test demands would be the goal of a future proposal. The
purpose of a stress test is to determine how a firm will fare under
an unanticipated shock.
How is a goal of reducing or minimizing changes in stress test
results to avoid ‘‘management challenge’’ to banks compatible with
this purpose?
A.2. The supervisory stress test allows the Federal Reserve to assess the resilience of banking organizations under various economic
stress scenarios. It is essential to the continued success of the
stress test as a supervisory tool that we preserve the dynamism of
the stress test, and we seek to balance this objective with other supervisory objectives in evaluating future proposals.
One of these supervisory objectives is to mitigate excessive volatility in stress test results. It is typical for supervisory stress test
results for a given firm to change year-over-year, as the scenarios
and firms’ portfolio characteristics change, and we want to maintain that feature.
However, large changes in year-over-year stress test results, particularly those not driven by portfolio changes, can make it difficult
for firms to engage in responsible capital planning.
Maintaining the dynamism of the supervisory stress test need
not be at odds with mitigating excessive volatility in supervisory
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how to achieve an appropriate balance of these two goals in future
proposals.
Q.3. The 2008 crisis created financial stress because firms were not
anticipating significant losses from mortgage-backed securities,
which were assumed to be relatively safe assets until unanticipated
losses rapidly materialized over the 2007–2008 period. Over that
period banks were permitted to return about a hundred billion in
capital to shareholders, which later had to be made up by taxpayers through public capital injections.
How will a low-volatility stress test effectively require banks to
preserve capital during such sharp turns in the market?
A.3. Mitigating excessive volatility in loss estimates, and estimates
of poststress capital, need not be synonymous with maintaining a
static stress test that does not take emerging risks into the economic and financial environment into account.
Indeed, it is essential to the continued success of the stress test
as a supervisory tool that we preserve the dynamism of the stress
test, and we seek to balance this objective with other supervisory
objectives in evaluating future proposals.
The severely adverse scenario used in the Board’s annual stress
test reflects a sharp deterioration in macroeconomic and market
conditions, similar to what we experienced during the 2007–2008
period.
Several elements of the Federal Reserve’s stress testing and scenario framework are geared toward capturing shifts in the economic environment and in firms’ risk profiles. These types of shifts
would continue to be captured in the supervisory stress test results. Specifically, supervisory models are regularly reestimated
with newly available data, and the Board’s scenario design framework allows for the incorporation of salient risks to the current economic outlook. Further, the Federal Reserve’s supervisory modeling
policies seek to limit reliance on past outcomes, so that supervisory
models can incorporate events or outcomes outside of historical experience.
Q.4. You also indicated that the Fed would begin to ‘‘disclose additional detail about supervisory stress tests models and results . . .
allow[ing] firms to benchmark the results of their own models
against those of the supervisory models.’’
Won’t a lower-volatility stress test in which details of models and
assumptions are widely known result in a system where stress
tests are functionally equivalent to the Basel III risk-based capital
rules? If so, what would be the justification for having multiple systems of risk-based capital?
A.4. Maintaining the dynamism of the supervisory stress test—and
therefore its distinction from the Basel III risk-based capital
rules—is one of our key objectives, and need not be at odds with
mitigating excessive volatility in supervisory stress test results. Supervisory stress test results for a given firm will continue to change
year-over-year, as the scenarios and firms’ portfolio characteristics
change. We seek to reduce potentially excessive changes in yearover-year stress test results, which can make it difficult for firms
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We believe that the additional model disclosures that we proposed late last year appropriately increase the degree of transparency into supervisory models while preserving the dynamism of
the exercise.
In evaluating future proposals, we will continue to consider how
best to achieve an appropriate balance of the objectives of mitigating excessive volatility in capital requirements and preserving
the dynamism of the stress test exercise.
Q.5. The Fed is apparently also considering seeking the public’s
‘‘input on scenarios and salient risks facing the banking system
each year,’’ providing another opportunity for interested parties to
shape the stress tests. Under the current framework, the scenarios
are determined by the Fed’s economists, with input from the reserve banks.
Have you lost confidence in the ability of these experts to foresee
risks and develop effective stress test scenarios? If not, what is the
value of allowing industry actors to influence the tests they will receive?
A.5. The stress test provides a forward-looking measurement of
bank capital, a view of common and systemic risks across the banking sector, and a broader understanding of the health of the financial system. By helping us ensure that the largest firms have sufficient capital to absorb losses and continue to lend in stressful conditions, the stress test helps to reduce the potential that distress
from a single large firm will spill over to the broader economy. The
results are valuable for markets, analysts, and ultimately, the participating firms.
The Federal Reserve Board’s (Board) supervisory stress test independently assesses the resilience of the financial system under
stress. I believe that our ability to provide an independent view of
capital adequacy enhances the credibility of the test and of our supervisory program. Our independent assessment of poststress capital relies on models and scenarios developed by Federal Reserve
staff, which is comprised of a wide range of experts that drive innovation in their fields. Across the Federal Reserve System, our diverse workforce publishes a wide range of economic and policy research and plays an active role in academic discourse.
Yet we recognize that we are not, and cannot be, a monopoly on
insight and wisdom. In the past, the Board has sought and benefited from multiple and diverse perspectives on elements of its
stress testing program. For example, the Board recently invited
public comment on principles governing stress test model design
and amendments to further clarify the scenario design framework.
Through that process, we received valuable feedback which we incorporated in the finalized amendments.
We will continue to push the frontier of stress testing, through
our own research and through the insights we gain from our engagement with the public. We recently announced that we will host
a stress testing conference in July that will be open to the public.
During the conference, we expect that a number of diverse stakeholders, including academics, public interest representatives, and
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tain aspects of the stress test program, including our current approach to scenario design.
Q.6. In the recent stress capital buffer (SCB) proposal, you shifted
the stressed leverage ratio requirement from the supplemental leverage ratio to the less stringent Tier 1 leverage ratio. In your recent speech you then proposed to eliminate the stressed leverage
ratio requirement altogether. You justified elimination of this requirement by claiming that including the leverage ratio in the
stress tests made the operational effect of the leverage ratio more
dependent on modeled risks.
But won’t eliminating the stressed leverage ratio altogether significantly increase the role of risk modeling and risk weights in the
capital system?
Could you please provide information on how many firms experienced the current stressed leverage ratio requirement to be their
binding or most significant constraint in the stress test process?
A.6. The Board’s notice of public rulemaking entitled Amendments
to the Regulatory Capital, Capital Plan, and Stress Test Rules 1
issued in April 2018 sought comment on the introduction of a
stress leverage buffer requirement in addition to the current capital rule’s 4 percent minimum tier 1 leverage ratio requirement.
However, the stress buffer concept would not be extended to the
supplementary leverage ratio. Our analysis indicates that the
stressed supplementary leverage ratio was the binding constraint
for one firm based on the results of the Comprehensive Capital
Analysis Review 2018.
Leverage ratios are intended to function as a backstop to traditional risk-based capital requirements. Whether or not there is an
additional stress leverage buffer, global systemically important
banks would continue to remain subject to the capital rule’s enhanced supplementary leverage ratio standards so leverage capital
requirements would continue to serve as a strong backstop. Board
staff are currently reviewing all comments on the proposal and will
carefully consider whether any changes to the proposed stress leverage buffer requirement or more generally are appropriate.
Q.7. Your remarks also indicated that you were motivated by the
view that the ‘‘[t]ransparency of the stress test and its inputs and
outputs is key to the credibility of the stress test.’’
Does the Fed have any evidence that firms or the market aren’t
taking stress tests seriously under the current regime?
A.7. The Federal Reserve’s stress test remains an effective supervisory tool. We believe it is important to seek public input and to
assess ways to further enhance the test’s effectiveness.
Since the inception of the supervisory stress test, the Board has
gradually increased the breadth of its public disclosure. By increasing the amount of information about the assessment that is available to the public, the Board has invited the public to engage and
make an independent evaluation of the stress test’s soundness.
Since the supervisory capital assessment program exercise in 2009,
incremental disclosures of supervisory models and results have
benefited banking organizations and those seeking to understand
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the resilience of firms in times of economic stress. The December
2017 proposals to increase transparency of the supervisory stress
test are the latest incremental step to increase disclosure.
In evaluating each incremental disclosure, the Board considers
how to disclose information about the stress tests in a manner that
appropriately balances the costs and benefits of transparency. For
example, we have not disclosed the full details of our models, in
large part due to the Board’s concerns about convergence of stress
testing, which would make them less effective and would undermine the financial stability gains we have made. We also seek to
guard against the risk of firms making modifications to their businesses that change the results of the stress test without changing
the risks they face. This behavior could result in the stress test giving a misleading picture of the actual vulnerabilities faced by
firms. It could also result in all firms increasing their holdings of
assets that perform better in the supervisory stress test, which
would make the financial system as a whole less diversified and
more vulnerable to shocks.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF
SENATOR CORTEZ MASTO FROM RANDAL K. QUARLES

Q.1. Wells Fargo—Wells Fargo Bank admitted to creating more
than 3.5 million accounts without customers’ authorization. Wells
Fargo forced hundreds of thousands of automobile loan customers
to pay for unnecessary insurance policies, with the added expense
leading some borrowers to default and lose their vehicles. Wells
Fargo also admitted to charging improper fees to some mortgage
borrowers. Wells Fargo did not offer help to 870 mortgage borrowers that they were entitled; 545 of those borrowers had their
homes taken from them in foreclosure proceedings. Three of them
were from Nevada.
In February, the Federal Reserve cited those and other issues
when it ordered the bank to halt expansion until it can prove to
regulators that it has systems in place to prevent consumer abuses.
What issues remain with Wells Fargo leadership’s remediation
plan?
Will the Fed object to Wells Fargo capital distribution plan until
a remediation plan has been accepted and the consent decree released?
Why did the Federal Reserve not use the Comprehensive Capital
Analysis and Review process to object to Wells Fargo’s capital distribution plan?
A.1. Thank you for your question. Please note that I have recused
myself from participating in official matters specific to Wells Fargo,
as detailed in a press release dated December 15, 2017.
Q.2. The most recent news from Wells Fargo—870 mortgage borrowers not appropriately assisted—more than 500 wrongly foreclosed on—was reported AFTER the consent order was signed in
February.
Should we expect more problems of unfair, deceptive and abuse
practices harming Wells Fargo’s customers in the coming year?
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A.2. Please see my response to Question 1.
Q.3. Is the asset cap the Fed put in place adequate for changing
Wells Fargo’s behavior?
A.3. Please see my response to Question 1.
Q.4. The Supervisory Reports states that that sales practices and
incentive-based compensation is an area of priority. [p.27]
What will the Fed do to change incentive pay and sales practices
at banks?
A.4. As noted in the Federal Reserve Board’s (Board) November
2018 Supervision and Regulation Report, the Board conducted reviews of sales and incentive compensation practices at certain State
member banks with total assets between $10 billion and $50 billion. The reviews identified acceptable practices. When exceptions
were noted, however, findings were determined to be correctable in
the normal course of business.
Through our existing supervisory process, we will continue to
monitor firms’ progress towards appropriately balancing risks concerning sales and related incentive compensation practices.
Q.5. What is the status of the Incentive-based compensation rule
mandated by the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer
Protection Act? I would note that this is a mandatory law, not discretionary.
A.5. In June 2016, the Board, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC), the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC),
the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), the National
Credit Union Administration (NCUA), and the Federal Housing Finance Agency (collectively, the agencies), jointly published and requested comment on a proposed rule under section 956 of the
Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.
This joint effort proposed several requirements to address incentive
compensation arrangements. The agencies received over 100 comments on the proposed rule. Development of a final rule on an
interagency basis in light of those comments is now under active
work by the agencies.
The Federal Reserve continues to evaluate incentive compensation practices as a part of ongoing supervision. This supervision
has focused on the design of incentive compensation arrangements;
deferral and risk adjustment practices (including forfeiture and
clawback mechanisms); governance; and the involvement of the
firm’s controls and control function groups in various aspects of incentive compensation arrangements.
The Board’s supervision focuses on encouraging robust risk management and governance around incentive compensation practices
rather than prescribing amounts and types of pay and compensation.
Q.6. Bank Secrecy Act/Anti– Money Laundering—In the Fed’s Supervisory Report released last week, you note that of the supervisory findings currently outstanding, nearly 20 percent relate to
weaknesses in BSA/AML programs. [p.26]
Can you be more specific about how ‘‘machine-based learning’’
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A.6. Some banks are becoming increasingly sophisticated in their
approach to Bank Secrecy Act/Anti– Money Laundering (BSA/AML)
compliance, and machine learning features prominently among the
types of new technology that banks have been exploring in recent
years. Machine learning can have many different applications, for
example, some banks have experimented with this technology as a
way to identify potentially suspicious patterns in transaction data
at a reduced cost to the institution. While machine learning has
the potential to enhance suspicious activity monitoring and other
BSA/AML compliance processes, the use of this technology is at an
early stage. The Federal Reserve does not advocate a particular
method to comply with the BSA and believes that, as a general
matter, institutions should consider a broad range of factors when
considering new approaches to BSA/AML compliance such as performance, cost, and security of a particular technology. Any such
processes should be transparent and reproducible so that banks
and examiners understand how the system meets regulatory requirements. When developing innovative approaches, banks must
continue to meet their BSA/AML compliance obligations.
Q.7. Are the banking regulators working with FinCEN on future
joint guidance? What would such guidance include? What impact
would the guidance have under the new decision that guidance
does not have the force of law?
A.7. In December 2018, the Federal Reserve Board (Board) issued
a joint statement with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the National
Credit Union Administration, and the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network that encourages depository institutions to explore
innovative approaches to meet their BSA/AML compliance obligations and to further strengthen the financial system against illicit
financial activity. 1 The statement recognizes that new technologies
may help banks to more efficiently identify and report money laundering, terrorist financing, and other illicit financial activity.
While the statement encourages banks to explore new ways of
using their existing tools or adopting new technologies to meet
their BSA/AML compliance obligations, the statement is not itself
binding and expressly recognizes that some financial institutions
may not have the means or ability to innovate. In addition, the
statement makes clear that the Federal Reserve will not penalize
banks that maintain effective anti– money laundering programs but
choose not to pursue innovative approaches.
Q.8. Merger and Acquisition Risk—In the Fed’s Supervisory Report
released last week, you note that upcoming Regional Banking Organizations Supervisory Priorities include merger and acquisition
risks. A number of banking experts said that reducing the capital
requirements and other rules for banks above $50 billion would
lead to more bank mergers.
Do you expect to see more bank mergers this year and next year
than the past few years? Can you estimate the number of bank
mergers you expect in 2019?
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A.8. When reviewing a bank holding company application or notice
that requires approval, the Federal Reserve considers the financial
and managerial resources of the applicant, the future prospects of
both the applicant and the firm to be acquired, financial stability
factors, the convenience and needs of the community to be served,
the potential public benefits, the competitive effects of the proposal,
the applicant’s compliance with laws and regulations, and the applicant’s ability to make available to the Federal Reserve information deemed necessary to ensure compliance with applicable law.
Once a merger or application has been approved, we follow merger and acquisition (M&A) activity within the regional banking portfolio 2 chiefly to assess operational risk as the acquirers integrate
the new operations into their consolidated organization.
We continue to see significant M&A activity within the portfolio,
and indeed the regional banking portfolio has grown as banking
companies under $10 billion in assets accelerate their growth
across that size threshold by performing acquisitions.
We do expect M&A activity within the regional banking portfolio
to continue, but any estimate of the projected level of this activity
would be pure speculation, as it will depend on many different
market factors.
Q.9. How much of merger activity is due to changes from S. 2155
and bank regulator actions to reduce some rules?
A.9. The Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act (EGRRCPA), enacted in May 2018, raised the asset
threshold at which certain prudential standards apply from $50 billion to $100 billion. The new law also changed the asset threshold
for a small bank holding company from $1 billion to $3 billion. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the former thresholds may have provided a merger disincentive to banks to grow beyond that point. At
this time, the Federal Reserve does not have any specific evidence
to indicate that merger activity has materially increased due to
changes from EGRRCPA.
Q.10. Since you note risks to regional banks arising from mergers
and acquisitions, what are those risks?
A.10. As noted in my response to 5(a), when reviewing a bank holding company application or notice that requires approval, the Federal Reserve considers the financial and managerial resources of
the applicant, the future prospects of both the applicant and the
firm to be acquired, financial stability factors, the convenience and
needs of the community to be served, the potential public benefits,
the competitive effects of the proposal, the applicant’s compliance
with laws and regulations, and the applicant’s ability to make
available to the Federal Reserve information deemed necessary to
ensure compliance with applicable law.
Once a merger or application has been approved, we follow M&A
activity within the regional banking portfolio chiefly to assess operational risk as the acquirers integrate the new operations into their
consolidated organization. Operational risks during integration can
involve almost any aspect of running a bank, but the one that gives
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the greatest supervisory concern is compatibility of information
technology systems. The acquiring bank needs to ensure that the
transition is smooth across all balance sheet and income statement
accounts, that customers are not inconvenienced or exposed to errors as the accounts are integrated, and that management information systems (MIS) used for internal reporting—MIS that generates
metrics on credit, liquidity, and market risks for example—accurately capture the new consolidated entity.
Q.11. Liquidity Coverage Ratio/Stress Tests—Banks are required
to retain enough assets they can easily convert to cash to cover 30
days of expenses. You recommend reducing this cash cushion for all
but the largest banks by revisions to the Liquidity Coverage Ratio.
You say the reduction is minimal. Others say it is large and significant. Your Federal Reserve colleague, Governor Lael Brainard says
it ‘‘weakens the buffers that are core to the resilience of our system.’’
How will you know if your analysis is wrong? How will you know
if banks have less capital than prudent based on these regulatory
changes you propose?
A.11. The Board’s liquidity framework for large banking organizations has two general components: standardized measures, such as
those included in the liquidity coverage ratio rule or net stable
funding ratio proposed rule, and firm-specific measures, such as liquidity risk management requirements and internal liquidity
stress testing requirements.
The recent proposals to further tailor prudential standards would
reduce or remove standardized liquidity requirements for some
firms, but they would retain the firm-specific measures for all firms
with $100 billion or more in total assets. As a result, the proposals
would continue to require these firms to meet liquidity risk management standards, conduct internal liquidity stress tests, and hold
a buffer of highly liquid assets sufficient to meet projected 30-day
stressed cash flow needs under internal stress scenarios. The proposals would also require these firms to maintain regulatory reporting of key liquidity data, which facilitates the Board’s supervision of liquidity-related risks. In addition, the Board will continue
to assess the safety and soundness of firms in the normal course
of supervision.
Taken together, these firm-specific standards and data reporting
requirements will allow supervisors to continue to achieve regulatory objectives while improving upon the simplicity, transparency, and efficiency of the regime. In this manner, the proposals
build on the Board’s existing practice of tailoring regulatory requirements based on the size, complexity, and overall risk profile
of banking organizations.
Q.12. If banks or their trade associations start taking the Federal
Reserve to court due to their differences in how the tailoring
worked, a stress test result or a cost-benefit analysis they do not
agree with, will you feel your analysis was wrong?
A.12. The Board takes seriously the importance in the rulemaking
process of seeking comment from the public, carefully considering
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and cost-benefit analysis can enlighten our regulatory actions and
inform the implementation of our statutory responsibilities. In addition to seeking public comment on its proposals, the Board often
collects impact information directly from parties that may be affected. Under the Board’s current practice, consideration of costs
and benefits occurs at each stage of the regulatory or policymaking
process. Recent examples of the publication of quantitative analyses in connection with its rulemakings include the global systemically important bank (G–SIB) surcharge rule, the singlecounterparty credit limit rule, and the long-term debt rule.
The Board has established processes that allow institutions to respond to and appeal certain types of administrative actions, such
as stress test results. In addition, the Administrative Procedure Act
(APA) provides for judicial review of final regulations issued by the
Board. Affected firms have the legal right to challenge the actions
of any administrative agency under the APA, including whether
the agency has engaged in reasoned decision making. Although the
Board strives to robustly support all of its supervisory and regulatory actions, these appeal and judicial review processes help to
ensure fair and effective implementation of our statutory responsibilities, consistent with applicable administrative requirements.
Q.13. This isn’t just one weakening of buffers. There are numerous
reductions at from several rulemakings that I think collectively
have a material effect in weakening safeguards. Are you concerned
that this ‘‘death by a thousand cuts’’ will result in much less of a
capital cushion for banks that may find themselves in trouble in
the future?
A.13. Reforms implemented since the financial crisis have resulted
in substantial gains in the resiliency of large banking organizations
and the financial system as a whole. The proposals issued in October 2018 and April 2019, seek to tailor the Board’s prudential requirements for certain U.S. banking organizations and foreign
banking organizations in accordance with the risk profiles of these
firms while still maintaining the core reforms and gains made over
the past decade.
For liquidity standards, the proposals would continue to ensure
that firms with the most significant risk profiles are subject to the
most stringent liquidity requirements. For example, all U.S. G–
SIBs and firms with very substantial size or cross-jurisdictional activity would be subject to the full liquidity coverage ratio and proposed net stable funding ratio requirements. The proposals would
also require any firm with a high reliance on unstable short-term
wholesale funding to meet the full requirements. This distinction
would reflect these firms’ elevated vulnerability to liquidity risk,
and help to reduce the risk of asset fire sales that could transmit
distress to other market participants and destabilize the system.
As noted in my response to question 6(a), all firms with assets
greater than $100 billion will continue to be subject to firm-specific
liquidity requirements. As a result, these firms will still be required to conduct internal stress tests and hold liquidity buffers
sufficient to meet projected 30-day net stressed cash-flow needs.
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ing organizations (U.S. G–SIBs and banks either that are very
large or have substantial cross-jurisdictional activity). The proposals may result in an adjustment of capital requirements for
smaller, less-systemic firms, although the impact on capital levels
for these firms could vary under different economic and market
conditions. The proposals also would also lower these firms’ compliance costs. As a result, the proposed requirements would reduce
costs appropriately for those firms that have a limited impact on
the financial system as a whole, relative to firms with more significant systemic footprints.
Q.14. While you praise transparency in regulation, some warn that
providing the textbook prior to the test or describing rigorous requirements for regulation allows banks to skirt the law in areas
not yet covered. For example, there was probably little oversight of
cryptocurrencies yet they have become a huge problem with Initial
Coin Offering frauds. How will your focus on transparency avoid
giving banks the option to make an argument that they not be tested or held accountable for something not clearly defined in the
rules?
A.14. Issuing clear regulations is fundamental to the legitimacy of
democratically accountable institutions and is central to the Federal Reserve’s mission; regulated firms have a right to know the
specific requirements that apply to them. While the Board is aware
that prescriptive regulation may not capture all potentially harmful activity undertaken by regulated firms, the Board’s comprehensive supervisory regime is designed to identify such activity before
it poses harm to a firm or to financial stability, and the Board also
relies on its general safety and soundness authority 3 to address
such activity.
Q.15. Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s stated that weakening bank
requirements is a credit negative for bank bond investors. An S&P
report said ‘‘the Fed’s proposals are incrementally negative for
bank creditors.’’ Moody’s report stated that the ‘‘reduced frequency
of capital and liquidity stress testing could lead to more relaxed
oversight and afford banks greater leeway in managing their capital and liquidity stress testing could lead to more relaxed oversight
and afford banks greater leeway in managing their capital and liquidity, as well as reduce transparency and comparability, since
fewer firms will participate in the public supervisory stress test.’’
Do you concur with two of the Credit Rating Agencies that your
proposals—reducing or recalibrating capital requirements and
stress tests—are ‘‘credit negative’’? Why or why not?
A.15. The proposed adjustments to the Board’s capital and liquidity
requirements are designed to efficiently tailor prudential standards
to the risks of large banking organizations while ensuring that
firms maintain sufficient resources and risk management practices
to be resilient under a range of economic conditions. They are intended to maintain and support the postcrisis increases in resiliency.
In regard to capital and liquidity requirements, including capital
and liquidity stress testing requirements, the Board is focused on
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reducing the complexity of the requirements in a way that does not
materially lower the aggregate amount of total loss absorbing capacity maintained by banking organizations supervised by the
Board. In addition, the Board is focused on tailoring the capital
and liquidity prudential standards so that they are more reflective
of the variety of business models and risk profiles observed across
the industry, in a manner consistent with the requirements of
EGRRCPA.
Any adjustments to the Board’s regulatory requirements will be
coupled with the Board’s continued commitment to strong supervision, and expectation that financial institutions manage their
risks and maintain sufficient capital and liquidity to continue operations under stressed conditions.
Q.16. Community Reinvestment Act and Regulatory Coordination—
In your response to my questions for the record last Spring, you neglected to answer one of my questions.
Which, if any recommendation from the Treasury Department or
Comptroller Otting do you disagree with regarding the Community
Reinvestment Act?
A.16. Recommendations offered by the Treasury Department and
Comptroller Otting on opportunities to modernize the Community
Reinvestment Act (CRA) regulations have contributed to valuable
analysis and dialogue among the agencies, as well as input from
the public. As I have stated previously, I support the goal of improving the current supervisory and regulatory framework for CRA
based on feedback from industry and community stakeholders. We
are reviewing the information the OCC has received in response to
its advanced notice of proposed rulemaking on the CRA, as well as
information gathered through the Federal Reserve’s listening sessions at many of the Federal Reserve Banks around the country to
determine whether there are steps we might take as regulators to
come closer to both the letter and intent of the statute. That review
is ongoing, and our evaluation of any particular proposal or element of a proposal will depend on a full analysis of the available
information upon completion of that review.
Q.17. As the Vice Chair of Supervision at the Fed, can you explain
why there appears to be less interagency coordination, and more
controversial proposals being advanced, since you took over the Supervisory role at the Fed? What is the potential for reducing public
confidence and certainty in the regulatory actions you and others
are attempting to take quickly and unilaterally?
A.17. The Board consults and coordinates on a regular basis with
its fellow bank regulatory agencies on a wide range of matters affecting depository institutions and their affiliates. This consultation
and coordination facilitates a more cohesive regulatory framework,
which is intended to promote the safety and soundness of the banking system in the most efficient and least burdensome way possible. The Board also consults regularly with the SEC, Consumer
Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), Commodity Futures Trading
Commission (CFTC), OCC, FDIC, NCUA, and Treasury Department, in areas where regulatory responsibilities overlap. Coordination and cooperation with other agencies occurs at staff levels as
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tion, the Board participates in the Federal Financial Institutions
Examination Council (FFIEC) and in the Financial Stability Oversight Council, both of which facilitate interagency consultation and
cooperation. These many avenues of consultation at multiple levels
increase the coordination and consistency of regulation across a
banking industry that has multiple regulators and charters.
Many of the proposals and final rules issued by the Board in recent months have been issued in coordination with other agencies.
Recent examples of proposed or final rules issued in coordination
with the OCC and FDIC include amending the definition of highquality liquid assets under the agencies’ liquidity rules; expanding
eligibility for an extended examination cycle for insured banks and
branches of foreign banks; raising the threshold for residential real
estate transactions requiring an appraisal; and tailoring of liquidity
and capital requirements for large banking organizations. Other recent examples of proposals issued in coordination with the FDIC
and OCC include a proposal to establish a community bank leverage ratio, a proposal to streamline reporting requirements for small
institutions, and a proposal to exclude community banks from the
Volcker rule. The agencies continue to work together to implement
other provisions of S. 2155 and on other matters of common interest.
Q.18. Labor Market/Housing Market—The U.S. has seen consistent positive private sector job growth now for more than 100
consecutive months. To what extent are these gains sustainable?
What risks to the labor market do you see on the horizon?
A.18. As you noted, private sector payrolls have increased every
month since the spring of 2010. The labor market remains strong,
and I expect the expansion to continue, with further positive job
gains.
As always, there are risks to the outlook, and admittedly, recessions are hard to foresee. But many studies demonstrate that economic expansions do not end simply because they have persisted
for a long time. Rather, some shock or collection of shocks occurs
that is sufficient to push the economy into recession. At present,
the banking system is well capitalized and highly liquid, and the
Federal Reserve is committed to do everything we can to sustain
the ongoing expansion. The Federal Reserve’s recently inaugurated
Financial Stability Report discussed risks and the resilience of our
financial system in some detail. Other risks to the outlook could
come from abroad, in the form of a material downturn to some of
our trading partners or from the effects of Government policies, including trade policy and Brexit.
While such downside risks are present, as reported recently in
the Summary of Economic Projections, most Federal Reserve policymakers view the risks around our projections as balanced. Most
importantly, policy is not on a preset course, and we will respond
to changes in the economic outlook as warranted.
Q.19. More than half of renters pay more than 1⁄3 of their income
for rent. Nearly half of Americans cannot handle a $400 emergency. What are your concerns about the housing market where
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inadequate in many communities? What should Federal policy
makers do to increase the supply of affordable homes?
A.19. A healthy labor market is one of the most important factors
helping families afford their housing costs. Our labor market is
currently quite strong overall. The unemployment rate is at its lowest level in many decades, and the strong job market has encouraged more people to seek and hold jobs. According to aggregate statistics, however, house prices and rents have been rising well above
the growth rate of aggregate disposable household income. Moreover, aggregate statistics can mask important differences across regions of the country. This is especially the case with housing markets, which have distinct geographic and local features. While an
improving labor market has produced some easing in the share of
households that are cost-burdened, the share of cost-burdened
households remains elevated relative to the period before the financial crisis, and I share your concern over what this means for the
households affected.
Housing costs have been rising because of increasing costs of
labor and materials and, importantly, the availability and cost of
land for residential construction, which are in turn influenced by
local conditions and regulation. The Federal Reserve tracks conditions in the housing market and has noted the challenges of adding
directly to the supply of affordable housing. Each of the regional
Federal Reserve Banks has an active, well-staffed community development function—one of the great benefits of the Federal Reserve’s structure. We get important and timely information on the
state of local economic and financial conditions, including those affecting low- and moderate-income, as well as other underserved,
communities. Our community development staff at the Board and
several Reserve Banks have conducted research to better understand housing affordability challenges, recognizing the importance
of sufficient affordable housing to a community’s economic vitality.
We also conduct and disseminate research on policy and practice
solutions. Increasingly we have been exploring the challenges of
supplying affordable rental housing and the role of local land use
and zoning policies.
Q.20. Banks Hoarding Interest Income as the Fed Raises Rates—
Since the Fed began raising interest rates, banks have seen a significant jump in net interest income and charged consumers more
for loans, all while keeping the interest rate paid on customer deposits relatively flat. Why are depositors not getting higher interest
rates?
A.20. Banks’ profits are partly determined by the difference in interest expense they must pay on deposits and other liabilities and
the interest they earn on their assets, including loans. Interest
rates on bank deposits are determined by private markets, as are
the interest rates on loans, bonds, and other financial savings and
investment products. A significant share of banks’ funding comes
from customer deposits, for which banks must compete with other
banks and nonbanks, such as money market mutual funds. Banks
must also compete with other banks, nonbanks, and markets when
setting lending rates for borrowers. Historically, we have seen that
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much or as quickly as interest rates on other bank products, such
as loans, when the Federal Reserve raises its policy rate. Moreover,
the rate paid by banks on their deposit accounts does not tend to
rise as much or as quickly as the yields savers earn on alternative
savings investments, such as money-market mutual funds.
Of note, average advertised deposit rates are often an incomplete
indicator of how banks attract and retain customer deposits. Presently, the range of rates offered by banks is wide, and many banks
temporarily offer promotional rates. In addition, banks may use alternative methods to compete for deposits vis-a-vis other banks and
money market mutual funds. Such alternative methods of compensating depositors include cash incentives, special rates that are not
broadly advertised, and special offers on other services. We continue to study these trends and the ways in which changes in monetary policy transmit to the broader economy.
Q.21. Cannabis Banking—As more States begin to legalize marijuana, it becomes imperative that Congress act on offering financial
services for cannabis and cannabis affiliated businesses. In its first
year of legalization, the State of Nevada collected $69.8 million in
tax revenue from cannabis alone—this figure indicates that there
is not an insignificant amount of cash that is floating around our
financial system.
Are you able to discuss whether, if any, how a lack of financial
services for cannabis businesses impacts our monetary system?
A.21. We understand that cannabis business may largely be conducted via cash transactions. Although the volume (and the attendant risk) of cash transactions may be large for any individual business, the scale of these businesses relative to the scale of the
United States economy is quite small. As such, any additional cash
activity from these businesses does not appear to be having any impact on the Federal Reserve’s ability to provide currency and coin
nor on its ability to conduct monetary policy.
Q.22. Could you discuss the regulatory burden that this prohibition
places on federally chartered banks?
A.22. Federal law makes it a Federal crime to possess, grow, or distribute marijuana, and prohibits an entity from knowingly engaging in a monetary transaction in criminally derived property. 4
Therefore, financial transactions that are related to marijuana are
defined as money laundering under Federal law, even those related
to operations that are licensed or approved under State law. The
conflict between Federal and State law has created challenges for
marijuana-related businesses and banks.
In 2014, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN)
issued guidance to ‘‘clarify how financial institutions can provide
services to marijuana-related businesses (MRBs) consistent with
their Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) obligations.’’ 5 Similar to other BSA
guidance, a reference to the 2014 FinCEN guidance was incorporated into the FFIEC BSA/AML Examination Manual. If there
are legislative changes or if FinCEN repeals or revises its guid4 See

the Controlled Substances Act and 18 U.S.C. 1957.

5 https://www.fincen.gov/sites/default/files/shared/FIN-2014-G0011.pdf

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ance, the Board, along with the other FFIEC agencies, will evaluate whether additional steps would be appropriate.
Examiners assess whether the bank management has implemented controls that are commensurate with the bank’s risks, and
when those risks involve MRBs as customers, examiners assess if
the bank is complying with FinCEN’s 2014 marijuana guidance, including its suspicious activity report filing requirements. In general, examiners determine if the bank’s controls are commensurate
with the risks posed by its products, services, and customers. As
a general matter, the decision to open, close, or decline a particular
account or relationship is made by a depository institution, without
involvement by its supervisor.